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Here is a thread i started in List of aircraft talk page:-
Ok who is putting citation tags in. Is it really necessary for a list where the only content is a link to an article which will have the references and citations alluded to!!! Discuss? On checking Wikipedia:Citation needed it is not necessary to provide citations unless it would improve the article. In this form of list where there is no data other than the name a citation is superfluous. Petebutt ( talk) 01:51, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
I understand the need for citaions, WHERE NEEDED, but a simple list is not improved by them. Citations and references will be found at the relevant article. No problem with them staying bu t please do not use it as evidence for removal of the entries. The List of aircraft is very tolerant of redlinks as it gives an excellent reference of articles that need to be written and / or re-directs that need to be raised. Petebutt ( talk) 02:39, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
The technical side of your report was fine, but we don't normally block for a single instance of vandalism. If it reoccurs after a series of graduated warnings then that's another matter - generally we expect to see vandalism past a level 4 warning. Hope this helps, EyeSerene talk 15:30, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi N2e, You mentioned not being sure you'd reported User:83.178.145.231 to WP:AIV correctly, so I though I'd leave a brief note. We usually give editors a little breathing room to figure out how the place works before reporting them to AIV; there's vandalism, and then there's test edits, and a wide grey area in between. It's hard to know if they were going to continue messing around after a warning or two (in which case, we block), or would get the message and knock it off without blocking (always preferred, since quick blocks tend to reduce the chance of turning them from the dark side). The editor in question made only one edit, so another editor left a note on their talk page about it. This is spelled out in excruciating detail in the links in the AIV header, if you want to learn about the level-1 thru level-4 warnings, etc. I'd recommend it if you plan to whack vandalism with Twinkle frequently, not really necessary if this is a one off.
No big deal, but since you asked. Thanks for helping out. Cheers, -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 15:35, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
Regarding your reversion: I think your action was incorrect. The links to the articles are right there. You can click through and see - obviously different aircraft. If you think something needs a citation then the correct first action is not to revert a contribution unless you have good reason to think it is wrong. If you are in doubt there are numerous "citation required" tags for you to use. It is becoming increasingly difficult to contribute to the encyclopedia, and I have been doing so since the early days, as perhaps have you. It is not the case that every assertion requires a citation on pain of reversion. Paul Beardsell ( talk) 00:32, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
You quote Jimmy Wales on your home page: "If it is true, it should be easy to supply a reference. If it is not true, it should be removed." My emphasis. Paul Beardsell ( talk) 00:37, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
That Avcoat was created by Avco?-- Craigboy ( talk) 06:53, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
If you're doubting it was than here's sources.
http://www.sti.nasa.gov/tto/Spinoff2006/ps_3.html
http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/140636main_ESAS_05.pdf
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Hi, now that Flight dynamics is a disambig, please don't forget to clean up the incoming links per WP:FIXDABLINKS. Navigation popups with the popupFixDabs flag set to true is a big help. Cheers, -- JaGa talk 16:26, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
Dear N2e, I am very glad you have taken your stand. Seems like everyone was for being able to leave a reference (for the red links especially). But I have a feeling they will kick this upstairs to the administrators, and you will be reversed. I troll a lot of the magazines and I will come across articles with photos of little known aircraft. I have to really jump some hoops to get the link posted so someone searching for info on the subject can have a clue what the aircraft is, etc. If you have a chance check out the "Curtiss-Bleeker" in the Cs to see the length you have to go to without having to write a stub page. It is ridiculous. Again, thanks. And I hope it stands. Jack Jackehammond ( talk) 09:51, 16 December 2010 (UTC
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Please see Portal talk:Renewable energy#Task force ?... Johnfos ( talk) 19:16, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
Welldone for your work on Jos,today.But you removed the civilian governors section,dont you think it is needfull.Thanks Earlymen ( talk) 04:02,28 December 2010 (UTC)
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Did you ever find or make a reference style for wikipedia for EndNote? - Thanks Pengortm ( talk) 00:46, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
Hey N2e, I apologise, things have been very busy for me lately. After this weekend, I'll be done with classes for this semester, so time should be more accommodating. I promise I'll get it done, just be patient with me :) — Huntster ( t @ c) 03:37, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
N2e, I don't know if you follow this, but it was suggested there that I should complain about the issue we have at WP:AN/I. I understand that you follow the letter of WP:V/WP:BURDEN/etc. and technically don't violate the policies; and I assume good faith; but you refused to do anything (or even to comment) about the two examples of tagged/deleted data pieces backed by external sources at the wikilinked articles, you refuse to change your editing process and involve a step "check at wikilinked article for sources before tagging/deleting" - and there is high probability that continuing this will eventually result in deleting all data pieces in these articles. Are you OK for me to open a WP:AN/I? Alinor ( talk) 07:27, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
If a bill does not pass in Congress, it dies. It can be reintroduced in the next Congress (2 year term), but that is not automatic. Your "when" comment is very appropriate, though. Note that Fair Tax has never been voted on, even at the committee level. Oldtaxguy ( talk) 05:32, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
Hello, N2e. You have new messages at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Academic_Journals#Help.2FFeedback. Headbomb { talk / contribs / physics / books} 06:28, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
The following is a comment left in October 2010 on the Talk:Rocket propellant Talk page. I thought it particularly good, and will leave it here in the comments for others to see. Clear, concise, cogent and very helpful to the lay person in getting over the "why is ISP measured in units of seconds" question. Cheers. N2e ( talk) 17:08, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Specific impulse is the average exhaust velocity divided by the acceleration of gravity, taken to be 9.80665 meters/sec/sec (approximately 32.174 ft/sec/sec). From Newton's Second Law, the thrust of a rocket engine equals the mass flow rate times the average exhaust velocity. Hence, average exhaust velocity is a measure of rocket engine performance. Typical average exhaust velocities range from about 800 m/sec for black powder rockets to 4565 m/sec for the highest performing oxygen/hydrogen rocket engines. (Electric thrusters have much higher exhaust velocities.) In English speaking countries it is customary to describe flow rates in pounds/second, but pounds are units of force, not of mass. The unit of mass is the slug, which actually weighs 32.174 pounds. To convert pounds/second to slugs/second, one must divide by the acceleration of gravity, 32.174 ft/sec/sec. That is how the custom arose of describing rocket engine performance in terms of "specific impulse" which is the average exhaust velocity divided by "g" (9.80665 m/s/s or 32.174 ft/s/s). To convert specific impulse back to average exhaust velocity, simply multiply by the acceleration of gravity. Magneticlifeform (talk) 23:09, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
Dimensionally, specific impulse (Isp) is presented in two different basic dimensional forms: as momentum/mass = velocity, AND as momentum/weight = mv/mg = v/g = time. This is independent of whether SI or Imperial units are used. The "explanation" of needing to divide by a weight, works to explain the "time unit" specific impulse (Isp in sec), but not for the "velocity unit" specific impulse (Isp in ft/sec or m/sec or whatever velocity units you like). S B H arris 18:31, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
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Delivered by EdwardsBot ( talk) 18:24, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Hi N2e; I noticed you recently added a citation needed tag for a statement about the origins of the X-33. This statement was easily found in one of the external links; even easier if you use google. As a regular to spaceflight articles, I assume you know NASA provides pretty much all of its documents online, so my question is, why didn't you simply add the reference yourself? Mlm42 ( talk) 18:53, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
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See here]. Neutralhomer • Talk • 03:45, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
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Hello, I have updated the Project Page you are mentoring on with usernames for all the students in your Area of Study. Please send them a message introducing yourself and let them know you are there to help.
As always, please let me know if I can be of assistance. Take Care... Neutralhomer • Talk • 10:14, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
Just saw your pat-on-the-back about the [ Allen radiation belt] problem, which I somehow missed until just now. Much appreciated! Wwheaton ( talk) 18:54, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
N2e, I am looking for a mentor. I am a student in Approaches to Development and a member of the WikiProjects U.S. Public Policy Initiative.
As part of this course, I had hoped to work on an article related to technology and development. Specifically, I hoped to include information related to the concepts behind the Design for the Other 90% exhibit at the Cooper-Hewitt Museum. I was thinking of either editing the Appropriate Technology article (specifically the [ technology in developing areas] section) to include more information on design, appropriate technology, and development or creating a new article for this information.
I would appreciate any advice related to this plan, in particular your thoughts on editing the existing article to expand the section on appropriate technology in developing areas or beginning a new article. I find the appropriate technology article to be a little overwhelming, probably due to the poor organization and the almost "dump" of information.
Thank you for your time. EstellaGr8 ( talk) 03:00, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
Howdy, Online Ambassador!
This is a quick message to all the ambassadors about marking and tracking which articles students are working on. For the classes working with the ambassador program, please look over any articles being worked on by students (in particular, any ones you are mentoring, but others who don't have mentors as well) and do these things:
And of course, don't forget to check in on the students, give them constructive feedback, praise them for positive contributions, award them {{ The WikiPen}} if they are doing excellent work, and so on. And if you haven't done so, make sure any students you are mentoring are listed on your mentor profile.
Thanks! -- Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation ( talk) 18:13, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
I've edited the Great Pacific Garbage Patch to include a mass media reference, as well as to remove gross misrepresentation of a certain academic paper, which, ironically enough, is publicly available. The mass media reference, incidentally, quotes the primary author of the paper in question, seven years after the publication of the paper in question, to the effect that the plastic density is one thousand times greater than that extrapolated from his paper by a dishonest wikipedia author, who shall probably remain anonymous, or at least not be exposed due to my efforts. The paper considers plastic particulates in the neuston, and the wikipedia article in the original form falsely implied that the paper was calculating the total platic mass in the Great Pacific Garbage Patch. I deliver this notice so as to avoid editing wars, as I'd like either an accurately cited paper to the effect of the original claim (I'll notice in passing that the claim made also constituted original research), or that the undocumented claim not be returned. I realise that you might not be the author of that claim. Boeremoer ( talk) 03:43, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
Got a message about an hour ago from Professor Obar of the Media and Telecommunication Policy project and I think it is viewed best in full:
Can you please communicate to the online mentors that I DO NOT want them moving student material into the main space for them. This is a big problem. I have noticed that this has happened with a number of the projects already, for example, in the broadband.gov article and the media cross-ownership article. We need the students to be doing this on their own, of course so they can learn how to do it, and also so that I can grade what they've done. How am I supposed to follow student submissions if the data is associated with online mentors? A BIG PROBLEM ALREADY... please help me with this. None of you responded to my post about this on the discussion page. This is about to get out of hand. Jaobar (talk) 05:27, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
With that, of course, please only give instructions on how to move, don't do it for them. Please only let them know what to do and let them do it themselves. If they run into problems, provide further instructions. Do not it for them. This seems to be making a mess of Prof. Obar's grading system and I would like to avoid that. Thanks. - Neutralhomer • Talk • Coor. Online Amb'dor • 06:11, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
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N2e, I was hoping you could advise me on undoing an edit someone recently made to the Appropriate technology page. They changed the spelling of industrialized to British version: industrialised. As this is the only British-English spelling I can find on the page (utilizing is used in the same paragraph and not utilising, practice is also used throughout the article and not pratise), I was going to change it back to the American-English version. Is that an acceptable thing to do? Thanks for the help. EstellaGr8 ( talk) 20:51, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
Hey, sorry I havent communicated with you about the Spectrum Auction project. Currently, we have an assignment where we have to do random edits on other wiki pages. I chose to update some things about the cast of The Cosby Show but I cant figure out how to add a picture to the biography section (the long box on the right hand side of the pages). I saw the code from the page on the actual show but I dont know how to get the photos to show up on the page Im doing. I would appreciate any help, thanks.
Letia Armstead — Preceding unsigned comment added by SpartyParty ( talk • contribs) 16:03, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
N23, I have started working on my proposed edits to the Appropriate Technology article in my sandbox. What I have written so far is my proposed lede. I have set it up to mirror how I imagine the outline of the article would be best organized (definition/history, developing country applications, developed country applications, examples). I have included two questions related to citation. One is a technical question about using Wikipedia citation style and the other is a question about what to cite and when. I will also update my section on the talk page for the article with a link to my sandbox so the Wiki community can comment. I appreciate your help and advice. EstellaGr8 ( talk) 14:40, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
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Hey N2e, this is Letia from the Spectrum Auction group. I was just checking in to let you know what we are doing. We havent posted on wikipedia becuase we are putting all of our info in a google docs page for editing and revising. One of our group members isnt doing anything so me and the other guy have been putting in a lot of work. Tomorrow, im going to be posting up some background information in addition to what is already on the page. We have a lot of information to sort out so we are going to be doing a lot of stuff this weekend.
Im just letting you know whats up!
Talk to you soon! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 35.11.164.88 ( talk) 22:56, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Okay, I added a little snapshot of one section I am going to be adding to the page. I have a lot more, Im just finally getting everything down in a typed document. Most of what I have is just research. Our group is having a really hard time becuase one person hasnt done ANYTHING. I finally got a hold of my other group member and we had a lengthy talk about how important this project is. I am the only person who has been in contact with you and I have let them know that we are not about to be doing this at the last possible second. This weekend, you should see a lot of work being added. I told my group member that we need to get 900 words up in the next 4 days. And we have been making good progress towards that. I added some of my draft material for you to see on my sandbox. I actually posted it up on our topic page as well. I still have a lot of in text linking to due back to certain wiki pages, I will get to that in our final moments next week. I am really trying to focus on getting all this text out and onto our page. Expect to see more for us this weekend.
Thanks,
Letia Armstead — Preceding unsigned comment added by SpartyParty ( talk • contribs) 20:35, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
Instead of clicking on the link, I figured I could just say I forgot what that talkback was about. Don't worry about being busy, I totally understand. EstellaGr8 ( talk) 21:54, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi N2e/Archive 2,
Your work as an Online Ambassador is making a big contribution to Wikipedia. Right now, we're trying to measure just how much student work improves the quality of Wikipedia. If you'd like contribute to this research and get a firsthand look at the quality improvement that is happening through the project, please sign up to assess articles. Assessment is happening now, just use the quantitative metric and start assessing! Your help would be hugely appreciated!
Thank you, ARoth (Public Policy Initiative) ( talk) 17:13, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi Ambassador,
We are at a pivotal point in the development of the Wikipedia Ambassador Program. Your feedback will help shape the program and role of Ambassadors in the future. Please take this 10 minute survey to help inform and improve the Wikipedia Ambassadors.
WMF will de-identify results and make them available to you. According to KwikSurveys' privacy policy: "Data and email addresses will not be sold, rented, leased or disclosed to 3rd parties." This link takes you to the online survey: http://kwiksurveys.com?u=WPAmbassador_talk
Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments, Thank You!
Amy Roth (Research Analyst, Public Policy Initiative) ( talk) 20:42, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Even though it's been quiet on-wiki, the Wikipedia Ambassador Program has been busy over the last few months getting ready for the next term. We're heading toward over 80 classes in the US, across all disciplines. You'll see courses start popping up here, and this time we want to match one or more Online Ambassadors to each class based on interest or expertise in the subject matter. If you see a class that you're interested, please contact the professor and/or me; the sooner the Ambassadors and professors get in communication, the better things go. Look for more in the coming weeks about next term.
In the meantime, with a little help I've identified all the articles students did significant work on in the last term. Many of the articles have never been assessed, or have ratings that are out of date from before the students improved them. Please help assess them! Pick a class, or just a few articles, and give them a rating (and add a relevant WikiProject banner if there isn't one), and then update the list of articles.
Once we have updated assessments for all these articles, we can get a better idea of how quality varied from course to course, and which approaches to running Wikipedia assignments and managing courses are most effective.
-- Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation ( talk) 17:27, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
I responded to your comment on my talk page. Please check also Talk:Comparison_of_orbital_launch_systems#Merger_reversal. Jeffsapko ( talk) 11:44, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
Done, and I have continued to participate in the various related discussions and consensus building on the items you have proposed.
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21:29, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
Hello! If you're planning to be an active Online Ambassador for the upcoming academic term, now is the time to join one or more pods. (A pod consists of the instructor, the Campus Ambassadors, and the Online Ambassadors for single class.) The Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) explains the expectations for being part of a pod as an Online Ambassador. (The MOU for pods in Canada is essentially the same.) In short, the role of Online Ambassadors this term consists of:
This replaces the 1-on-1 mentoring role for Online Ambassadors that we had in previous terms; rather than being responsible for individual students (some of whom don't want or help or are unresponsive), Online Ambassadors will be there to help whichever students in their class(es) ask for help.
You can browse the upcoming courses here: United States; Canada. More are being added as new pods become active and create their course pages.
Once you've found a class that you want to work with—especially if you some interest or expertise in the topic area—you should sign the MOU listing for that class and get in touch with the instructor. We're hoping to have at least two Online Ambassadors per pod, and more for the larger classes.
If you're up for supporting any kind of class and would like me to assign you to a pod in need of more Online Ambassadors, just let me know.
-- Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation ( talk) 16:34, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
PS: There are still a lot of student articles from the last term that haven't been rated. Please rate a few and update the list!
Hi N2e! I'm in the process of trying to find Online Ambassadors to support each of the classes for this coming term, and there are a few I thought you'd be a good fit for: New Media and Development and New Media: Innovation, Community, and Dissidence". If you're up for supporting one or both of those classes, please check out the Memorandum of Understanding (linked above) which sketches the expectations for Online Ambassadors this term, and then you can sign on to class and get in touch with the professor(s).
There some other classes that you might be interested in, too, so feel free to browse and sign on with a different class if you find something more appealing.-- Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation ( talk) 14:44, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
I reverted your addition of a template inside of a template because it disrupted the entire appearance of the original template inside of articles (it was very messy looking). I also replied here. Thanks. Jesanj ( talk) 12:51, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
The 2013/2014 date you listed isn't for the first FH flight, that date is when the rocket would launch from the Cape (from a second launch pad).-- Craigboy ( talk) 09:27, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
Glad to look at that article; but would advise you that in discussing science fiction, especially scientifically-sound science fiction, you avoid the term "sci fi" or any derivative thereof. The term is traditionally considered a pejorative, fit only for the Syfylis Channel and other venues where actual science fiction standards such as scientific accuracy, intelligent plots, plausible dialogue, etc. are not valued. -- Orange Mike | Talk 16:33, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
I was wondering if you have time to look at an issue which I have requested help from gracefool on. The topic is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gracefool#Anti-spyware_coalition I would like to become more aware of etiquette regarding such things. Sincerely, Teacherstudent27 ( talk) 09:19, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
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Here is a thread i started in List of aircraft talk page:-
Ok who is putting citation tags in. Is it really necessary for a list where the only content is a link to an article which will have the references and citations alluded to!!! Discuss? On checking Wikipedia:Citation needed it is not necessary to provide citations unless it would improve the article. In this form of list where there is no data other than the name a citation is superfluous. Petebutt ( talk) 01:51, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
I understand the need for citaions, WHERE NEEDED, but a simple list is not improved by them. Citations and references will be found at the relevant article. No problem with them staying bu t please do not use it as evidence for removal of the entries. The List of aircraft is very tolerant of redlinks as it gives an excellent reference of articles that need to be written and / or re-directs that need to be raised. Petebutt ( talk) 02:39, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
The technical side of your report was fine, but we don't normally block for a single instance of vandalism. If it reoccurs after a series of graduated warnings then that's another matter - generally we expect to see vandalism past a level 4 warning. Hope this helps, EyeSerene talk 15:30, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi N2e, You mentioned not being sure you'd reported User:83.178.145.231 to WP:AIV correctly, so I though I'd leave a brief note. We usually give editors a little breathing room to figure out how the place works before reporting them to AIV; there's vandalism, and then there's test edits, and a wide grey area in between. It's hard to know if they were going to continue messing around after a warning or two (in which case, we block), or would get the message and knock it off without blocking (always preferred, since quick blocks tend to reduce the chance of turning them from the dark side). The editor in question made only one edit, so another editor left a note on their talk page about it. This is spelled out in excruciating detail in the links in the AIV header, if you want to learn about the level-1 thru level-4 warnings, etc. I'd recommend it if you plan to whack vandalism with Twinkle frequently, not really necessary if this is a one off.
No big deal, but since you asked. Thanks for helping out. Cheers, -- Floquenbeam ( talk) 15:35, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
Regarding your reversion: I think your action was incorrect. The links to the articles are right there. You can click through and see - obviously different aircraft. If you think something needs a citation then the correct first action is not to revert a contribution unless you have good reason to think it is wrong. If you are in doubt there are numerous "citation required" tags for you to use. It is becoming increasingly difficult to contribute to the encyclopedia, and I have been doing so since the early days, as perhaps have you. It is not the case that every assertion requires a citation on pain of reversion. Paul Beardsell ( talk) 00:32, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
You quote Jimmy Wales on your home page: "If it is true, it should be easy to supply a reference. If it is not true, it should be removed." My emphasis. Paul Beardsell ( talk) 00:37, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
That Avcoat was created by Avco?-- Craigboy ( talk) 06:53, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
If you're doubting it was than here's sources.
http://www.sti.nasa.gov/tto/Spinoff2006/ps_3.html
http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/140636main_ESAS_05.pdf
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Hi, now that Flight dynamics is a disambig, please don't forget to clean up the incoming links per WP:FIXDABLINKS. Navigation popups with the popupFixDabs flag set to true is a big help. Cheers, -- JaGa talk 16:26, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
Dear N2e, I am very glad you have taken your stand. Seems like everyone was for being able to leave a reference (for the red links especially). But I have a feeling they will kick this upstairs to the administrators, and you will be reversed. I troll a lot of the magazines and I will come across articles with photos of little known aircraft. I have to really jump some hoops to get the link posted so someone searching for info on the subject can have a clue what the aircraft is, etc. If you have a chance check out the "Curtiss-Bleeker" in the Cs to see the length you have to go to without having to write a stub page. It is ridiculous. Again, thanks. And I hope it stands. Jack Jackehammond ( talk) 09:51, 16 December 2010 (UTC
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Please see Portal talk:Renewable energy#Task force ?... Johnfos ( talk) 19:16, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
Welldone for your work on Jos,today.But you removed the civilian governors section,dont you think it is needfull.Thanks Earlymen ( talk) 04:02,28 December 2010 (UTC)
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Delivered by MessageDeliveryBot on behalf of WikiProject Spaceflight at 14:47, 1 January 2011 (UTC).
Did you ever find or make a reference style for wikipedia for EndNote? - Thanks Pengortm ( talk) 00:46, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
Hey N2e, I apologise, things have been very busy for me lately. After this weekend, I'll be done with classes for this semester, so time should be more accommodating. I promise I'll get it done, just be patient with me :) — Huntster ( t @ c) 03:37, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
N2e, I don't know if you follow this, but it was suggested there that I should complain about the issue we have at WP:AN/I. I understand that you follow the letter of WP:V/WP:BURDEN/etc. and technically don't violate the policies; and I assume good faith; but you refused to do anything (or even to comment) about the two examples of tagged/deleted data pieces backed by external sources at the wikilinked articles, you refuse to change your editing process and involve a step "check at wikilinked article for sources before tagging/deleting" - and there is high probability that continuing this will eventually result in deleting all data pieces in these articles. Are you OK for me to open a WP:AN/I? Alinor ( talk) 07:27, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
If a bill does not pass in Congress, it dies. It can be reintroduced in the next Congress (2 year term), but that is not automatic. Your "when" comment is very appropriate, though. Note that Fair Tax has never been voted on, even at the committee level. Oldtaxguy ( talk) 05:32, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
Hello, N2e. You have new messages at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Academic_Journals#Help.2FFeedback. Headbomb { talk / contribs / physics / books} 06:28, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
The following is a comment left in October 2010 on the Talk:Rocket propellant Talk page. I thought it particularly good, and will leave it here in the comments for others to see. Clear, concise, cogent and very helpful to the lay person in getting over the "why is ISP measured in units of seconds" question. Cheers. N2e ( talk) 17:08, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Specific impulse is the average exhaust velocity divided by the acceleration of gravity, taken to be 9.80665 meters/sec/sec (approximately 32.174 ft/sec/sec). From Newton's Second Law, the thrust of a rocket engine equals the mass flow rate times the average exhaust velocity. Hence, average exhaust velocity is a measure of rocket engine performance. Typical average exhaust velocities range from about 800 m/sec for black powder rockets to 4565 m/sec for the highest performing oxygen/hydrogen rocket engines. (Electric thrusters have much higher exhaust velocities.) In English speaking countries it is customary to describe flow rates in pounds/second, but pounds are units of force, not of mass. The unit of mass is the slug, which actually weighs 32.174 pounds. To convert pounds/second to slugs/second, one must divide by the acceleration of gravity, 32.174 ft/sec/sec. That is how the custom arose of describing rocket engine performance in terms of "specific impulse" which is the average exhaust velocity divided by "g" (9.80665 m/s/s or 32.174 ft/s/s). To convert specific impulse back to average exhaust velocity, simply multiply by the acceleration of gravity. Magneticlifeform (talk) 23:09, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
Dimensionally, specific impulse (Isp) is presented in two different basic dimensional forms: as momentum/mass = velocity, AND as momentum/weight = mv/mg = v/g = time. This is independent of whether SI or Imperial units are used. The "explanation" of needing to divide by a weight, works to explain the "time unit" specific impulse (Isp in sec), but not for the "velocity unit" specific impulse (Isp in ft/sec or m/sec or whatever velocity units you like). S B H arris 18:31, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
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Delivered by MessageDeliveryBot on behalf of WikiProject Spaceflight at 00:21, 2 February 2011 (UTC).
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Delivered by EdwardsBot ( talk) 18:24, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Hi N2e; I noticed you recently added a citation needed tag for a statement about the origins of the X-33. This statement was easily found in one of the external links; even easier if you use google. As a regular to spaceflight articles, I assume you know NASA provides pretty much all of its documents online, so my question is, why didn't you simply add the reference yourself? Mlm42 ( talk) 18:53, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
This message is going out to all of the Online Ambassadors who are, or will be, serving as mentors this term.
Hi there! This is just a friendly reminder to check in on what your mentees are doing. If they've started making edits, take a look and help them out or do some example fixes for them, if they need it. And if they are doing good, let them know it!
If you aren't mentoring anyone yet, it looks like you will be soon; at least one large class is asking us to assign mentors for them, and students in a number of others haven't yet gotten to asking ambassadors to be their mentors, but may soon. -- Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation ( talk) 20:07, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Hey there. One of the classes working with the Wikipedia Ambassador Program, Jonathan Obar's Media and Telecommunication Policy, is working in small groups and would like us to assign a mentor to each group (rather than having students request the mentors they'd like, as other classes are doing).
I invite you to sign on as the mentor for one or more groups, especially if any of the topics catch your interest. To sign up, go to the course page and add yourself as "Mentor: you" in the section for that group. They students and/or professor or campus ambassadors should be cleaning things up soon to list all the usernames for each group and add a few more groups. Once you know who the students are in the group, you can leave them each a quick introduction to let them know you'll be mentoring their group.
Thanks!-- Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation ( talk) 19:11, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
See here]. Neutralhomer • Talk • 03:45, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
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Delivered by MessageDeliveryBot on behalf of Spaceflight at 09:09, 3 March 2011 (UTC).
Hello, I have updated the Project Page you are mentoring on with usernames for all the students in your Area of Study. Please send them a message introducing yourself and let them know you are there to help.
As always, please let me know if I can be of assistance. Take Care... Neutralhomer • Talk • 10:14, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
Just saw your pat-on-the-back about the [ Allen radiation belt] problem, which I somehow missed until just now. Much appreciated! Wwheaton ( talk) 18:54, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
N2e, I am looking for a mentor. I am a student in Approaches to Development and a member of the WikiProjects U.S. Public Policy Initiative.
As part of this course, I had hoped to work on an article related to technology and development. Specifically, I hoped to include information related to the concepts behind the Design for the Other 90% exhibit at the Cooper-Hewitt Museum. I was thinking of either editing the Appropriate Technology article (specifically the [ technology in developing areas] section) to include more information on design, appropriate technology, and development or creating a new article for this information.
I would appreciate any advice related to this plan, in particular your thoughts on editing the existing article to expand the section on appropriate technology in developing areas or beginning a new article. I find the appropriate technology article to be a little overwhelming, probably due to the poor organization and the almost "dump" of information.
Thank you for your time. EstellaGr8 ( talk) 03:00, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
Howdy, Online Ambassador!
This is a quick message to all the ambassadors about marking and tracking which articles students are working on. For the classes working with the ambassador program, please look over any articles being worked on by students (in particular, any ones you are mentoring, but others who don't have mentors as well) and do these things:
And of course, don't forget to check in on the students, give them constructive feedback, praise them for positive contributions, award them {{ The WikiPen}} if they are doing excellent work, and so on. And if you haven't done so, make sure any students you are mentoring are listed on your mentor profile.
Thanks! -- Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation ( talk) 18:13, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
I've edited the Great Pacific Garbage Patch to include a mass media reference, as well as to remove gross misrepresentation of a certain academic paper, which, ironically enough, is publicly available. The mass media reference, incidentally, quotes the primary author of the paper in question, seven years after the publication of the paper in question, to the effect that the plastic density is one thousand times greater than that extrapolated from his paper by a dishonest wikipedia author, who shall probably remain anonymous, or at least not be exposed due to my efforts. The paper considers plastic particulates in the neuston, and the wikipedia article in the original form falsely implied that the paper was calculating the total platic mass in the Great Pacific Garbage Patch. I deliver this notice so as to avoid editing wars, as I'd like either an accurately cited paper to the effect of the original claim (I'll notice in passing that the claim made also constituted original research), or that the undocumented claim not be returned. I realise that you might not be the author of that claim. Boeremoer ( talk) 03:43, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
Got a message about an hour ago from Professor Obar of the Media and Telecommunication Policy project and I think it is viewed best in full:
Can you please communicate to the online mentors that I DO NOT want them moving student material into the main space for them. This is a big problem. I have noticed that this has happened with a number of the projects already, for example, in the broadband.gov article and the media cross-ownership article. We need the students to be doing this on their own, of course so they can learn how to do it, and also so that I can grade what they've done. How am I supposed to follow student submissions if the data is associated with online mentors? A BIG PROBLEM ALREADY... please help me with this. None of you responded to my post about this on the discussion page. This is about to get out of hand. Jaobar (talk) 05:27, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
With that, of course, please only give instructions on how to move, don't do it for them. Please only let them know what to do and let them do it themselves. If they run into problems, provide further instructions. Do not it for them. This seems to be making a mess of Prof. Obar's grading system and I would like to avoid that. Thanks. - Neutralhomer • Talk • Coor. Online Amb'dor • 06:11, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
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Delivered by EdwardsBot ( talk) 22:25, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
N2e, I was hoping you could advise me on undoing an edit someone recently made to the Appropriate technology page. They changed the spelling of industrialized to British version: industrialised. As this is the only British-English spelling I can find on the page (utilizing is used in the same paragraph and not utilising, practice is also used throughout the article and not pratise), I was going to change it back to the American-English version. Is that an acceptable thing to do? Thanks for the help. EstellaGr8 ( talk) 20:51, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
Hey, sorry I havent communicated with you about the Spectrum Auction project. Currently, we have an assignment where we have to do random edits on other wiki pages. I chose to update some things about the cast of The Cosby Show but I cant figure out how to add a picture to the biography section (the long box on the right hand side of the pages). I saw the code from the page on the actual show but I dont know how to get the photos to show up on the page Im doing. I would appreciate any help, thanks.
Letia Armstead — Preceding unsigned comment added by SpartyParty ( talk • contribs) 16:03, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
N23, I have started working on my proposed edits to the Appropriate Technology article in my sandbox. What I have written so far is my proposed lede. I have set it up to mirror how I imagine the outline of the article would be best organized (definition/history, developing country applications, developed country applications, examples). I have included two questions related to citation. One is a technical question about using Wikipedia citation style and the other is a question about what to cite and when. I will also update my section on the talk page for the article with a link to my sandbox so the Wiki community can comment. I appreciate your help and advice. EstellaGr8 ( talk) 14:40, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
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Delivered by EdwardsBot ( talk) 16:35, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
Hey N2e, this is Letia from the Spectrum Auction group. I was just checking in to let you know what we are doing. We havent posted on wikipedia becuase we are putting all of our info in a google docs page for editing and revising. One of our group members isnt doing anything so me and the other guy have been putting in a lot of work. Tomorrow, im going to be posting up some background information in addition to what is already on the page. We have a lot of information to sort out so we are going to be doing a lot of stuff this weekend.
Im just letting you know whats up!
Talk to you soon! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 35.11.164.88 ( talk) 22:56, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Okay, I added a little snapshot of one section I am going to be adding to the page. I have a lot more, Im just finally getting everything down in a typed document. Most of what I have is just research. Our group is having a really hard time becuase one person hasnt done ANYTHING. I finally got a hold of my other group member and we had a lengthy talk about how important this project is. I am the only person who has been in contact with you and I have let them know that we are not about to be doing this at the last possible second. This weekend, you should see a lot of work being added. I told my group member that we need to get 900 words up in the next 4 days. And we have been making good progress towards that. I added some of my draft material for you to see on my sandbox. I actually posted it up on our topic page as well. I still have a lot of in text linking to due back to certain wiki pages, I will get to that in our final moments next week. I am really trying to focus on getting all this text out and onto our page. Expect to see more for us this weekend.
Thanks,
Letia Armstead — Preceding unsigned comment added by SpartyParty ( talk • contribs) 20:35, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
Instead of clicking on the link, I figured I could just say I forgot what that talkback was about. Don't worry about being busy, I totally understand. EstellaGr8 ( talk) 21:54, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi N2e/Archive 2,
Your work as an Online Ambassador is making a big contribution to Wikipedia. Right now, we're trying to measure just how much student work improves the quality of Wikipedia. If you'd like contribute to this research and get a firsthand look at the quality improvement that is happening through the project, please sign up to assess articles. Assessment is happening now, just use the quantitative metric and start assessing! Your help would be hugely appreciated!
Thank you, ARoth (Public Policy Initiative) ( talk) 17:13, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi Ambassador,
We are at a pivotal point in the development of the Wikipedia Ambassador Program. Your feedback will help shape the program and role of Ambassadors in the future. Please take this 10 minute survey to help inform and improve the Wikipedia Ambassadors.
WMF will de-identify results and make them available to you. According to KwikSurveys' privacy policy: "Data and email addresses will not be sold, rented, leased or disclosed to 3rd parties." This link takes you to the online survey: http://kwiksurveys.com?u=WPAmbassador_talk
Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments, Thank You!
Amy Roth (Research Analyst, Public Policy Initiative) ( talk) 20:42, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Even though it's been quiet on-wiki, the Wikipedia Ambassador Program has been busy over the last few months getting ready for the next term. We're heading toward over 80 classes in the US, across all disciplines. You'll see courses start popping up here, and this time we want to match one or more Online Ambassadors to each class based on interest or expertise in the subject matter. If you see a class that you're interested, please contact the professor and/or me; the sooner the Ambassadors and professors get in communication, the better things go. Look for more in the coming weeks about next term.
In the meantime, with a little help I've identified all the articles students did significant work on in the last term. Many of the articles have never been assessed, or have ratings that are out of date from before the students improved them. Please help assess them! Pick a class, or just a few articles, and give them a rating (and add a relevant WikiProject banner if there isn't one), and then update the list of articles.
Once we have updated assessments for all these articles, we can get a better idea of how quality varied from course to course, and which approaches to running Wikipedia assignments and managing courses are most effective.
-- Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation ( talk) 17:27, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
I responded to your comment on my talk page. Please check also Talk:Comparison_of_orbital_launch_systems#Merger_reversal. Jeffsapko ( talk) 11:44, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
Done, and I have continued to participate in the various related discussions and consensus building on the items you have proposed.
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21:29, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
Hello! If you're planning to be an active Online Ambassador for the upcoming academic term, now is the time to join one or more pods. (A pod consists of the instructor, the Campus Ambassadors, and the Online Ambassadors for single class.) The Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) explains the expectations for being part of a pod as an Online Ambassador. (The MOU for pods in Canada is essentially the same.) In short, the role of Online Ambassadors this term consists of:
This replaces the 1-on-1 mentoring role for Online Ambassadors that we had in previous terms; rather than being responsible for individual students (some of whom don't want or help or are unresponsive), Online Ambassadors will be there to help whichever students in their class(es) ask for help.
You can browse the upcoming courses here: United States; Canada. More are being added as new pods become active and create their course pages.
Once you've found a class that you want to work with—especially if you some interest or expertise in the topic area—you should sign the MOU listing for that class and get in touch with the instructor. We're hoping to have at least two Online Ambassadors per pod, and more for the larger classes.
If you're up for supporting any kind of class and would like me to assign you to a pod in need of more Online Ambassadors, just let me know.
-- Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation ( talk) 16:34, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
PS: There are still a lot of student articles from the last term that haven't been rated. Please rate a few and update the list!
Hi N2e! I'm in the process of trying to find Online Ambassadors to support each of the classes for this coming term, and there are a few I thought you'd be a good fit for: New Media and Development and New Media: Innovation, Community, and Dissidence". If you're up for supporting one or both of those classes, please check out the Memorandum of Understanding (linked above) which sketches the expectations for Online Ambassadors this term, and then you can sign on to class and get in touch with the professor(s).
There some other classes that you might be interested in, too, so feel free to browse and sign on with a different class if you find something more appealing.-- Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation ( talk) 14:44, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
I reverted your addition of a template inside of a template because it disrupted the entire appearance of the original template inside of articles (it was very messy looking). I also replied here. Thanks. Jesanj ( talk) 12:51, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
The 2013/2014 date you listed isn't for the first FH flight, that date is when the rocket would launch from the Cape (from a second launch pad).-- Craigboy ( talk) 09:27, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
Glad to look at that article; but would advise you that in discussing science fiction, especially scientifically-sound science fiction, you avoid the term "sci fi" or any derivative thereof. The term is traditionally considered a pejorative, fit only for the Syfylis Channel and other venues where actual science fiction standards such as scientific accuracy, intelligent plots, plausible dialogue, etc. are not valued. -- Orange Mike | Talk 16:33, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
I was wondering if you have time to look at an issue which I have requested help from gracefool on. The topic is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gracefool#Anti-spyware_coalition I would like to become more aware of etiquette regarding such things. Sincerely, Teacherstudent27 ( talk) 09:19, 3 September 2011 (UTC)