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Gravestones from an Armenian cemetery at Taksim demolished in 1939 were used to construct stairs at Gezi Park, a republican-era project by the French planner Henri Prost that is like the jumble of high-rise hotels, traffic circles and the now-shuttered opera house on the square, named after Ataturk.
— —Michael Kimmelman, NYT
However, since this is a serious claim that can be even interpreted as a slander, would you be so kind as to research it more. We know for sure that the press acts as an echo chamber, so some history books may be of great help. By the way, what area do you refer to when you talk about "on the areal"? [2]
I am asking since near everything in Pera can be included under this category. Meanwhile, I will put the thing back into a limbo while you will continue your worthwhile research. Believe me, I have no political interest in this matter whatsoever, and am driven by the intent to keep this wonderful resource free of bigotry and bias! If you don't agree with me which is fine, you can submit for an arbitration, it is always nice to have a third pair of eyes involved. Best, --Murus (talk) 18:00, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
Dear Randykitty,
You have deleted without discussion a section in the Impact factor article by merely stating:
I agree that this is a spoof, but you cannot write that without a reliable source; remove incorrect info about Master List (updated continually))
instead of dropping the mentioning of an ISI-clone and changing "annual" to "continuously" in the case of the Thompson Reuters Master Journal List. Indeed, the evaluation of journals by Thompson Reuters is done continuously, and the results are made available through the Web of Science database immediately. [1]
However, in case of the journal impact factor ratings, journals are added to the list annually, when a new JSR is released. [2]. See, for example, the 2013 list that you chose to delete: [3] That means that a certain journal can be found in a Master Journal List database, [4] which is free to use, however that does not mean that its impact factor has been calculated. You should be aware of the fact that a lot of second-tier journals claim having an impact factor of unknown provenance. Not all of developing countries' scholars have access to the JSR. I've seen stuff on the internet when Thompsons' actual ratings were distorted. Therefore, checking into the Master Journal List can be the only option to decide on a reputation of a certain journal before submitting. That is why I feel strongly about emphasizing both the impact factor spoofing and the availability of a Master List.
Another thing, the current pull towards eliminating journal impact factor ratings may result in chaos. That is why I shared the information about Thomsons self-policing and supressing journals suspected in citation inflation. [5] [6] [7]
In short, there is a lot of confusion with bibliometrics both in real life and on wikipages nowdays.
I have no doubt that all your eliminations are of good-faith nature, and not a result of playing the get-as-many-edit-counts-as-you-can game, but nevertheless, it is always nice to have a third pair of knowledgeable eyes to get involved. I know that as a novice editor and reviewer (7 months and 16 days after registration) you will be also highly appreciative of such an opportunity. So, how do we proceed further? Best, -- Murus ( talk) 00:57, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
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Murus what I can say is this...The Taksim Barracks were actually built on top of the Armenian cemetery ( here's a source that says so). The source also says that the Taksim Barracks were built on top of the Muslim cemetery. I find this hard to believe (See this photograph). It is clear that the Taksim Barracks cannot possibly be on the lands of the Muslim cemetery given is disproportionate location to the barracks. However, the Armenian cemetery (Harbiye Tarafi (Ermeni)) is more understandable. Proudbolsahye ( talk) 03:08, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
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I'm going to try one more time to reason with you and assume good faith, despite evidence to the contrary.
I will restate my reason for deleting the sentence that you added at the end of the section, and I would like you to respond to it:
I will also try to correct certain misconceptions you seem to have.
In addition, you asked for a second opinion here, and you got one here, stating that the material is inappropriate. Yet you continue to revert, saying a discussion in which you are not involved, is occurring on the talk page. Two editors have called the material WP:SYNTH. There is a consensus. What will it take to convince you the material is bad?
I would like to try and de-escalate things with you by pointing out that I read the article nearly top to bottom. I did not go through and revert every change you made to the article. Almost all of your edits were useful. It is just this one passage you added that I and others have a problem with. Rather than focusing solely on this one sentence, remember that I approved of every other change you made. I am not disapproving of your proficiency at editing in the slightest. I am merely pointing out that, while the material may have been interesting for you, it is not encyclopedic due to our many policies on WP:WEIGHT, WP:ORIGINAL RESEARCH, and WP:NEUTRALITY.
In the interest of compromise, I have tagged the disputed material and section to warn our readers to view it with appropriate skepticism. I will wait 24 hours for you to begin dialog with me and actually attempt to justify the material. If I have no received a response by that time, I will delete it again. If you revert after that point, I will seek administrative action. Consider this your formal warning for disruptive editing. Hopefully we can resolve this amicably without escalating any further. PraetorianFury ( talk) 20:36, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
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Gravestones from an Armenian cemetery at Taksim demolished in 1939 were used to construct stairs at Gezi Park, a republican-era project by the French planner Henri Prost that is like the jumble of high-rise hotels, traffic circles and the now-shuttered opera house on the square, named after Ataturk.
— —Michael Kimmelman, NYT
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I am asking since near everything in Pera can be included under this category. Meanwhile, I will put the thing back into a limbo while you will continue your worthwhile research. Believe me, I have no political interest in this matter whatsoever, and am driven by the intent to keep this wonderful resource free of bigotry and bias! If you don't agree with me which is fine, you can submit for an arbitration, it is always nice to have a third pair of eyes involved. Best, --Murus (talk) 18:00, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
Dear Randykitty,
You have deleted without discussion a section in the Impact factor article by merely stating:
I agree that this is a spoof, but you cannot write that without a reliable source; remove incorrect info about Master List (updated continually))
instead of dropping the mentioning of an ISI-clone and changing "annual" to "continuously" in the case of the Thompson Reuters Master Journal List. Indeed, the evaluation of journals by Thompson Reuters is done continuously, and the results are made available through the Web of Science database immediately. [1]
However, in case of the journal impact factor ratings, journals are added to the list annually, when a new JSR is released. [2]. See, for example, the 2013 list that you chose to delete: [3] That means that a certain journal can be found in a Master Journal List database, [4] which is free to use, however that does not mean that its impact factor has been calculated. You should be aware of the fact that a lot of second-tier journals claim having an impact factor of unknown provenance. Not all of developing countries' scholars have access to the JSR. I've seen stuff on the internet when Thompsons' actual ratings were distorted. Therefore, checking into the Master Journal List can be the only option to decide on a reputation of a certain journal before submitting. That is why I feel strongly about emphasizing both the impact factor spoofing and the availability of a Master List.
Another thing, the current pull towards eliminating journal impact factor ratings may result in chaos. That is why I shared the information about Thomsons self-policing and supressing journals suspected in citation inflation. [5] [6] [7]
In short, there is a lot of confusion with bibliometrics both in real life and on wikipages nowdays.
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Murus what I can say is this...The Taksim Barracks were actually built on top of the Armenian cemetery ( here's a source that says so). The source also says that the Taksim Barracks were built on top of the Muslim cemetery. I find this hard to believe (See this photograph). It is clear that the Taksim Barracks cannot possibly be on the lands of the Muslim cemetery given is disproportionate location to the barracks. However, the Armenian cemetery (Harbiye Tarafi (Ermeni)) is more understandable. Proudbolsahye ( talk) 03:08, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
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I'm going to try one more time to reason with you and assume good faith, despite evidence to the contrary.
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I would like to try and de-escalate things with you by pointing out that I read the article nearly top to bottom. I did not go through and revert every change you made to the article. Almost all of your edits were useful. It is just this one passage you added that I and others have a problem with. Rather than focusing solely on this one sentence, remember that I approved of every other change you made. I am not disapproving of your proficiency at editing in the slightest. I am merely pointing out that, while the material may have been interesting for you, it is not encyclopedic due to our many policies on WP:WEIGHT, WP:ORIGINAL RESEARCH, and WP:NEUTRALITY.
In the interest of compromise, I have tagged the disputed material and section to warn our readers to view it with appropriate skepticism. I will wait 24 hours for you to begin dialog with me and actually attempt to justify the material. If I have no received a response by that time, I will delete it again. If you revert after that point, I will seek administrative action. Consider this your formal warning for disruptive editing. Hopefully we can resolve this amicably without escalating any further. PraetorianFury ( talk) 20:36, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
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