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But don't worry, I'm going to fix it. Check this out. Hesperian 05:54, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
I dread to think what I'm doing to your watchlist, as if Eubot and SatyrBot weren't already doing enough. Sorry about that.
There's an interesting discrepancy in category sizes at Category:Flora of Australia by state or territory. WA has 527 articles; next comes NSW with 219, and so it goes down to ACT with 7. My rough rule of thumb is that a category should be split if it has more than 200 entries i.e. more than one page. I think WA is definitely due to be split. I'm just not sure how to do it. Category:Myrtales of Australia currently has 194 pages, and will bust through 200 pretty soon at the rate I'm tagging; plus it has 40-odd WA Verticordia in a subcategory. Category:Proteales of Australia has only 119 articles but has plenty of Banksia and Hakea in subcategories. Category:Fabales of Australia has 133 articles but not much in subcategories. So one or both of Category:Myrtales of Western Australia and Category:Proteales of Western Australia might do the trick. Any suggestions? (There's a full list of categories with their sizes at User:Hesperian/Floracat#Categories.)
Hesperian 01:57, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
I like sedges but have almost no time. I love co-evolutionary relationships between insects and plants (and the viruses that hitchhike between them), and would like to do more with this butterfly and sedge, but don't have said aforementioned time. Don't know if it's in your interest area, but the wetlands look interesting, as does the skipper and its primary food plant. -- Blechnic ( talk) 07:00, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi Melburnian, just wanted to say that the images you added to the Port Phillip Channel Deepening Project article look great! I've been in contact with Blue Wedges' professional photographer and so I may have some photos up soon. Davido321 ( talk) 11:44, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi Melburnian - thanks for the Welcome - I see you've been busy for some time and have a full record of Port Phillip Bay dredging. Many moons ago I was part of an environmental study team for PPB. It takes a while to get used to the structure of WP and what is going on so I might be in touch now and again, seeing that you've offered ... but I like its rather anarchic muddling towards goals. Must see what you are up to with the Australian Flora. Will be in touch. Thanks for the welcome. -- Granitethighs ( talk) 05:57, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Hope I left enough explanation round to explain the folly of the action :( - thank you for your oversight on that one - I owes ya! - cheeraio and good night ( i think) Satu Suro 13:20, 11 May 2008 (UTC) Yeah well it goes down to wanting be a minder for poor ole cygnis down there in the great southern - he had dabbled in that one - and I have been to a place that had an exhibition of gibbs things in south perth - so the association is perhaps not so obvious - Satu Suro 13:33, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
You may be interested in the discussion here in terms of a source of Stylidium images. -- Melburnian ( talk) 07:02, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi,
Why the preference for Hass (avocado) over Hass avocado? WP:NAME seems to support the unbracketed version. I'm not as familiar with plant pages, is there a sub-guideline that exists or some discussion on a wikiproject with more guidance? Thanks for any help, WLU ( talk) 12:41, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Nice to see more of these species articles; thanks for contributing it. I was surprised that you hadn't used the Commons image Samphire_Halosarcia.png. Is that photo correctly identified as T. pergranulata? It's used as such in the glasswort article. Easchiff( talk) 10:13, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
I made a start on a red link, Tecticornia arbuscula, a couple of days ago, but got distracted and had to leave the edit window up for a few days. I have just got back to it, finished writing it, hit the save button, and discovered that you have written a stub in the interim! Judging by the edit history, we were originally working on it at the same time. What are the chances! Hesperian 13:03, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Would you be interested in proofreading a Wikisource article I've been working on? It is only five pages so proofing it would only take about half an hour. Read on if interested; it's fine if you're not.
The article is Characters of a new Liliaceous Genus called Brodiaea. I've transcribed it and proofed it, but the next step towards Featured Text status is to get a third party to validate it. This is done by clicking on the page links in the left margin, checking the text against the page scan, then editing the page to (a) if you don't find any mistakes, click the green box to mark the page as "Validated", then save; (b) fix any mistakes you find, then mark the page as "Validated", and save; or (c) if you find mistakes that you can't or don't want to fix, click the purple box to mark the page "Problematic", and save.
Hesperian 06:40, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
The Barnstar of Recovery | ||
Awarded to Melburnian for rewriting the Shrine of Remembrance, which is now effectively a new FA! Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 07:42, 1 August 2008 (UTC) |
Willie Wagtail is showing up at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Featured log/August 2008 as promoted. Has Sandy stuffed up?-- Grahame ( talk) 13:35, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for incorporating most of the inputs from my article into the Cedar deodar article.However, I would like to suggest including a comparative text of the three types of cedars with the gallery of pictures from my article as it would be quite informative on the shape of the canopy of the trees. The article is now farily exhaustive.-- Nvvchar ( talk) 15:40, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, your watchlist just blew up again. I'm dragging Proteaceae taxoboxes kicking and screaming into the 21st century. Hesperian 02:56, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
And a photo too! That's pretty darn good service! Ta. Hesperian 23:25, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
I notice you moved dandelion to Taraxacum. Another example (no doubt of many, many) that needs moving is Teak to Tectona. best, Plantsurfer ( talk) 22:45, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
The plant was at a botanic gardens, and I got the species name from the label or sign. — Pengo 03:11, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
When you add Crataegus specimens to the category Category:Crataegus make sure that you seperate the genus and species with a seperator (|). For example Crataegus rivularis wouold be Category:Crataegus|rivularis. Thanks -- Cottonapple4 ( talk) 20:51, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I have restored the Victorian country tags. I apologise for causing any trouble on this front.
Re usefulness: the VIC category itself wasn't so bad, but the Melbourne one is beyond useless. (Until this morning, every tram service was listed as needing a photo!) When I was in Melbourne myself with 8 days and a camera, I accessed it but in the haze of listed suburbs there, couldn't figure out what was priority and what was not (or even what was nearby) from the 360 or so entries and whether any of them had in fact been "requested" at all, and gave up - this will be the problem of *anyone* who tries to use that category with the same aim in mind. As a former database developer, too, I'm well aware of the concept of redundancy and the fact that this list will quickly become desynchronised with the number of articles actually needing photos - the more incoherent and complex, the less likely it is to be updated as the less likely anyone will use it. Is there any way the use of this category can be improved, or should it be replaced with a WikiProject to-do list which can be categorised? Orderinchaos 05:50, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
One can often find " Wisonii " in the latin names of plants. I was curious about this Wilson for a long time. But searching on just wilson... well, that doesn't help. Hopeless. Finally I got to know who he is! Warrington ( talk) 10:20, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Many other species with the epithet wilsonii are named after Ernest Henry Wilson, as well as other Wilsons, so you need to know the history of the naming of each individual species to determine who each was named after. Melburnian (talk) 10:37, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Thats sad. I hoped I solved the problem. It sounds like some material for an article called Wilsonii...
Is there any article on plants, latin names, named after people?
I had signed outside of login there - I had forgotten the usual delay in flowering times when cultivars in the scarp/range have a marked delay compared to the swan coastal sand plain - it can play funny tricks on the plants to say the least - as well as the photographer :) Satu Suro 09:14, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi Melburnian,
I have notice that you have uploaded a photo of Centro Oakleigh, I was wondering if you may be able to take some photos of Centro shopping Centres near you, as we are currently starting a gallery for Centro Properties Group article on Wikipedia. It would be greatly appreciated if you could, you may find a list of Centro Shopping Centres in Australia here: List of Centro Shopping Centres in Australia.
Thank you in advance!
Best Wishes, Sheepunderscore ( talk) 07:49, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi Melburnian,
I have notice that you have uploaded a photo of Centro Oakleigh, I was wondering if you may be able to take some photos of Centro shopping Centres near you, as we are currently starting a gallery for Centro Properties Group article on Wikipedia. It would be greatly appreciated if you could, you may find a list of Centro Shopping Centres in Australia here: List of Centro Shopping Centres in Australia.
Thank you in advance!
Best Wishes, Sheepunderscore ( talk) 07:49, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Just a heads-up. I made a major edit, then masked it with a typo fix. Hesperian 00:12, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
Just in case you didn't already see it, there's a discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/2008/November#Cat:Australian plant stubs: by state, or by taxon that will impact you. Hesperian 22:52, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
Your Ulmus x viminalis is in fact a much rarer elm. We have Ulmus x viminalis in Brighton & Hove here in UK. The leaves don't match yours at all. The surprizing thing is that your leaves match a description of an elm mentioned by WG Bean as being 'Betulaefolia' (Birch Like leaves). This is a botanical rediscovery... well done. Perhaps there have been cuttings to save it? Contact me... Ulmus man
It amuses me how often I come across Australian plants that aren't in the Flora of Australia category tree. But this one takes the cake. Tallong Midge Orchid has been quietly sitting in Category:New South Wales for over 3½ years. Hesperian 00:41, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your support in my RfA, which closed as successful a few hours ago. The admin reading list makes clear there's a million foolish errors to avoid, so feel free to stop by with any advice or gentle pushing in the right direction if I make any silly mistakes along the way. Also, thanks for your edits to HM Bark Endeavour, its nice to have someone to work with on an otherwise rarely visited page. :) Euryalus ( talk) 11:18, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi - could I be very cheeky and ask you to take a look at three articles I have recently created ( Begonia boliviensis, Begonia pearcei and Begonia veitchii) and correct any botanical errors that I've made. Cheers. Daemonic Kangaroo ( talk) 08:50, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi - I'm being cheeky again. Could you look at the article I have created about an orchid, Odontoglossum crispum, and fix any botanical, or other, errors I've made. Cheers. Daemonic Kangaroo ( talk) 07:55, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
I think the stub I just fixed may hold the record for the highest density of taxonomy error. It was Urandra... but that is a synonym of Stemonurus, so I moved it to the latter title. It was listed as a member of the Icacinaceae, but Icacinaceae has long since been found to be polyphyletic, and split into four families; this genus belongs in Stemonuraceae. It was given order Celastrales, but it should have been Aquifoliales. It was tagged as a rosid-stub: it's an asterid. At class rank, it was listed, and still is, as Magnoliopsida, an obsolete name for an obsolete taxon (the dicots). So it didn't get anything right until divisional rank, when it struck upon "Magnoliophyta". :-) Hesperian 05:14, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, and a merry Christmas to you too. (as you can see I'm still lurking) Hesperian 01:16, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
User:Melburnian is taking a short wikibreak and will be back on Wikipedia in latish January |
Is what is happening here what I think is happening here? 198.163.53.11 ( talk) 20:56, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for uploading Image:Picking Up Pebbles 3.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).
If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the " my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Aspects ( talk) 17:36, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
But don't worry, I'm going to fix it. Check this out. Hesperian 05:54, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
I dread to think what I'm doing to your watchlist, as if Eubot and SatyrBot weren't already doing enough. Sorry about that.
There's an interesting discrepancy in category sizes at Category:Flora of Australia by state or territory. WA has 527 articles; next comes NSW with 219, and so it goes down to ACT with 7. My rough rule of thumb is that a category should be split if it has more than 200 entries i.e. more than one page. I think WA is definitely due to be split. I'm just not sure how to do it. Category:Myrtales of Australia currently has 194 pages, and will bust through 200 pretty soon at the rate I'm tagging; plus it has 40-odd WA Verticordia in a subcategory. Category:Proteales of Australia has only 119 articles but has plenty of Banksia and Hakea in subcategories. Category:Fabales of Australia has 133 articles but not much in subcategories. So one or both of Category:Myrtales of Western Australia and Category:Proteales of Western Australia might do the trick. Any suggestions? (There's a full list of categories with their sizes at User:Hesperian/Floracat#Categories.)
Hesperian 01:57, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
I like sedges but have almost no time. I love co-evolutionary relationships between insects and plants (and the viruses that hitchhike between them), and would like to do more with this butterfly and sedge, but don't have said aforementioned time. Don't know if it's in your interest area, but the wetlands look interesting, as does the skipper and its primary food plant. -- Blechnic ( talk) 07:00, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi Melburnian, just wanted to say that the images you added to the Port Phillip Channel Deepening Project article look great! I've been in contact with Blue Wedges' professional photographer and so I may have some photos up soon. Davido321 ( talk) 11:44, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi Melburnian - thanks for the Welcome - I see you've been busy for some time and have a full record of Port Phillip Bay dredging. Many moons ago I was part of an environmental study team for PPB. It takes a while to get used to the structure of WP and what is going on so I might be in touch now and again, seeing that you've offered ... but I like its rather anarchic muddling towards goals. Must see what you are up to with the Australian Flora. Will be in touch. Thanks for the welcome. -- Granitethighs ( talk) 05:57, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Hope I left enough explanation round to explain the folly of the action :( - thank you for your oversight on that one - I owes ya! - cheeraio and good night ( i think) Satu Suro 13:20, 11 May 2008 (UTC) Yeah well it goes down to wanting be a minder for poor ole cygnis down there in the great southern - he had dabbled in that one - and I have been to a place that had an exhibition of gibbs things in south perth - so the association is perhaps not so obvious - Satu Suro 13:33, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
You may be interested in the discussion here in terms of a source of Stylidium images. -- Melburnian ( talk) 07:02, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi,
Why the preference for Hass (avocado) over Hass avocado? WP:NAME seems to support the unbracketed version. I'm not as familiar with plant pages, is there a sub-guideline that exists or some discussion on a wikiproject with more guidance? Thanks for any help, WLU ( talk) 12:41, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Nice to see more of these species articles; thanks for contributing it. I was surprised that you hadn't used the Commons image Samphire_Halosarcia.png. Is that photo correctly identified as T. pergranulata? It's used as such in the glasswort article. Easchiff( talk) 10:13, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
I made a start on a red link, Tecticornia arbuscula, a couple of days ago, but got distracted and had to leave the edit window up for a few days. I have just got back to it, finished writing it, hit the save button, and discovered that you have written a stub in the interim! Judging by the edit history, we were originally working on it at the same time. What are the chances! Hesperian 13:03, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Would you be interested in proofreading a Wikisource article I've been working on? It is only five pages so proofing it would only take about half an hour. Read on if interested; it's fine if you're not.
The article is Characters of a new Liliaceous Genus called Brodiaea. I've transcribed it and proofed it, but the next step towards Featured Text status is to get a third party to validate it. This is done by clicking on the page links in the left margin, checking the text against the page scan, then editing the page to (a) if you don't find any mistakes, click the green box to mark the page as "Validated", then save; (b) fix any mistakes you find, then mark the page as "Validated", and save; or (c) if you find mistakes that you can't or don't want to fix, click the purple box to mark the page "Problematic", and save.
Hesperian 06:40, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
The Barnstar of Recovery | ||
Awarded to Melburnian for rewriting the Shrine of Remembrance, which is now effectively a new FA! Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 07:42, 1 August 2008 (UTC) |
Willie Wagtail is showing up at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Featured log/August 2008 as promoted. Has Sandy stuffed up?-- Grahame ( talk) 13:35, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for incorporating most of the inputs from my article into the Cedar deodar article.However, I would like to suggest including a comparative text of the three types of cedars with the gallery of pictures from my article as it would be quite informative on the shape of the canopy of the trees. The article is now farily exhaustive.-- Nvvchar ( talk) 15:40, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, your watchlist just blew up again. I'm dragging Proteaceae taxoboxes kicking and screaming into the 21st century. Hesperian 02:56, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
And a photo too! That's pretty darn good service! Ta. Hesperian 23:25, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
I notice you moved dandelion to Taraxacum. Another example (no doubt of many, many) that needs moving is Teak to Tectona. best, Plantsurfer ( talk) 22:45, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
The plant was at a botanic gardens, and I got the species name from the label or sign. — Pengo 03:11, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
When you add Crataegus specimens to the category Category:Crataegus make sure that you seperate the genus and species with a seperator (|). For example Crataegus rivularis wouold be Category:Crataegus|rivularis. Thanks -- Cottonapple4 ( talk) 20:51, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I have restored the Victorian country tags. I apologise for causing any trouble on this front.
Re usefulness: the VIC category itself wasn't so bad, but the Melbourne one is beyond useless. (Until this morning, every tram service was listed as needing a photo!) When I was in Melbourne myself with 8 days and a camera, I accessed it but in the haze of listed suburbs there, couldn't figure out what was priority and what was not (or even what was nearby) from the 360 or so entries and whether any of them had in fact been "requested" at all, and gave up - this will be the problem of *anyone* who tries to use that category with the same aim in mind. As a former database developer, too, I'm well aware of the concept of redundancy and the fact that this list will quickly become desynchronised with the number of articles actually needing photos - the more incoherent and complex, the less likely it is to be updated as the less likely anyone will use it. Is there any way the use of this category can be improved, or should it be replaced with a WikiProject to-do list which can be categorised? Orderinchaos 05:50, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
One can often find " Wisonii " in the latin names of plants. I was curious about this Wilson for a long time. But searching on just wilson... well, that doesn't help. Hopeless. Finally I got to know who he is! Warrington ( talk) 10:20, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Many other species with the epithet wilsonii are named after Ernest Henry Wilson, as well as other Wilsons, so you need to know the history of the naming of each individual species to determine who each was named after. Melburnian (talk) 10:37, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Thats sad. I hoped I solved the problem. It sounds like some material for an article called Wilsonii...
Is there any article on plants, latin names, named after people?
I had signed outside of login there - I had forgotten the usual delay in flowering times when cultivars in the scarp/range have a marked delay compared to the swan coastal sand plain - it can play funny tricks on the plants to say the least - as well as the photographer :) Satu Suro 09:14, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi Melburnian,
I have notice that you have uploaded a photo of Centro Oakleigh, I was wondering if you may be able to take some photos of Centro shopping Centres near you, as we are currently starting a gallery for Centro Properties Group article on Wikipedia. It would be greatly appreciated if you could, you may find a list of Centro Shopping Centres in Australia here: List of Centro Shopping Centres in Australia.
Thank you in advance!
Best Wishes, Sheepunderscore ( talk) 07:49, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi Melburnian,
I have notice that you have uploaded a photo of Centro Oakleigh, I was wondering if you may be able to take some photos of Centro shopping Centres near you, as we are currently starting a gallery for Centro Properties Group article on Wikipedia. It would be greatly appreciated if you could, you may find a list of Centro Shopping Centres in Australia here: List of Centro Shopping Centres in Australia.
Thank you in advance!
Best Wishes, Sheepunderscore ( talk) 07:49, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Just a heads-up. I made a major edit, then masked it with a typo fix. Hesperian 00:12, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
Just in case you didn't already see it, there's a discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/2008/November#Cat:Australian plant stubs: by state, or by taxon that will impact you. Hesperian 22:52, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
Your Ulmus x viminalis is in fact a much rarer elm. We have Ulmus x viminalis in Brighton & Hove here in UK. The leaves don't match yours at all. The surprizing thing is that your leaves match a description of an elm mentioned by WG Bean as being 'Betulaefolia' (Birch Like leaves). This is a botanical rediscovery... well done. Perhaps there have been cuttings to save it? Contact me... Ulmus man
It amuses me how often I come across Australian plants that aren't in the Flora of Australia category tree. But this one takes the cake. Tallong Midge Orchid has been quietly sitting in Category:New South Wales for over 3½ years. Hesperian 00:41, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your support in my RfA, which closed as successful a few hours ago. The admin reading list makes clear there's a million foolish errors to avoid, so feel free to stop by with any advice or gentle pushing in the right direction if I make any silly mistakes along the way. Also, thanks for your edits to HM Bark Endeavour, its nice to have someone to work with on an otherwise rarely visited page. :) Euryalus ( talk) 11:18, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi - could I be very cheeky and ask you to take a look at three articles I have recently created ( Begonia boliviensis, Begonia pearcei and Begonia veitchii) and correct any botanical errors that I've made. Cheers. Daemonic Kangaroo ( talk) 08:50, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi - I'm being cheeky again. Could you look at the article I have created about an orchid, Odontoglossum crispum, and fix any botanical, or other, errors I've made. Cheers. Daemonic Kangaroo ( talk) 07:55, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
I think the stub I just fixed may hold the record for the highest density of taxonomy error. It was Urandra... but that is a synonym of Stemonurus, so I moved it to the latter title. It was listed as a member of the Icacinaceae, but Icacinaceae has long since been found to be polyphyletic, and split into four families; this genus belongs in Stemonuraceae. It was given order Celastrales, but it should have been Aquifoliales. It was tagged as a rosid-stub: it's an asterid. At class rank, it was listed, and still is, as Magnoliopsida, an obsolete name for an obsolete taxon (the dicots). So it didn't get anything right until divisional rank, when it struck upon "Magnoliophyta". :-) Hesperian 05:14, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, and a merry Christmas to you too. (as you can see I'm still lurking) Hesperian 01:16, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
User:Melburnian is taking a short wikibreak and will be back on Wikipedia in latish January |
Is what is happening here what I think is happening here? 198.163.53.11 ( talk) 20:56, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for uploading Image:Picking Up Pebbles 3.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).
If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the " my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Aspects ( talk) 17:36, 16 January 2009 (UTC)