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09:33, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
Thx for the request to talk.
RE First 3 section being unsourced. They are not sourceable. By guidelines, then they all should be omitted. Yes?
RE There are Alternatives - I can find a source which covers the topic. Will that help?
Appreciate your input. The process is frustrating
mckeever ( 67.164.40.207 ( talk) 20:09, 5 September 2014 (UTC))
I see you have chosen to reject my article because it references IMDB. I have come across a good number of actress profiles that have Imdb as sources to reference films they've acted in but for some reason you picked this one to reject. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SamKiranga ( talk • contribs) 08:43, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
Why did you delete citations to 'Jezebel Complex' and the ABC Sound Quality Show which are valid sources? I have been watching how Wikipedia's volunteers have been editing this article, why are there three people in 2 days from Wiki doing this, surely this is a waste of resource. Another contributor on MC Opi's page said you are very focused on this. Just seems like some sort of agenda as the other contributor said. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.119.153.251 ( talk) 17:06, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
You have deleted several cited reliable sources, this is vandalism and will be reported. As for prolific ARIA award winning singer, this is correct. At this stage I will be reporting all of this, I have read through all revisions in the last 24 hours and I am now convinced there is a serious issue with the Wiki volunteers on this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.119.137.39 ( talk) 17:18, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
You deleted reliable sources, such as archive.org Jezebel Complex which actually has not only the writers names but an actual track. You deleted a valid source of a program schedule of a national government funded radio show. As for WP:BOOMERANG this only applies to unreliable sources for this incident, so you might want to take your own advice and read it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.119.141.110 ( talk) 18:46, 8 September 2014 (UTC) I can put over 30 wikipedia articles of music artist subjects that state prolific in context of their work, on your page in answer to your good faith prolific comment regarding other subjects on MC Opi's history but I gather you understand this, so enlighten me further, this looks like it has been an intense onslaught from wiki volunteers for 48 hours, you must know this due to your comments.
hello
I have to admit.I was quite shocked to see that you just deleted/erased several years of hard work and investigation into this label.Stating that,I quote.."Wikipedia is not a catalogue of releases".Ok, we all have different opinions but as far as I have experienced the view is that Wikipedia is a place to seek knowledge about all kind of topics. That is the real meaning and purpose of Wikipedia. The only place you can find complete information about this -70ths label is here on Wikipedia and then information about their releases including links to scans of some of their most famous albums is very valuable.I have used hundreds of hours to find all the catalogue & matrix numbers in order to try to put together the most complete story of the label.I argue very strongly against what you have done and will revert your update. But I want to discuss this with you before I do this. I see no harm in having the catalogue, and it surely dont occupy much space on the site.I know for a fact that the article is being used as a reference to many collectors who collect and try to find information.Now you make it impossible regards
Rune Flyspes
Flyspes ( talk) 10:57, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
I would like to add a comment.I made a search on Wikipedia for record labels and found hundreds with complete discography.so what is the difference between those and the TMOQ and TAKRL label ? here is an example with a discography simular to the one you deleted.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Note_Records_discography
Rune Flyspes Flyspes ( talk) 11:42, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
Hello again.
Pls advice were to find guidlines for what you are saying as I dont find any logic in this.Here is a link to another well know label with complete discography but few links to the the releases: /info/en/?search=Mute_Records_discography Why should a label discography be on a seperate article as most collectors looking on Wikipedia will want to read information about TAKRL & TMOQ and then look at the output of the label below. Secondly,what gives you the authority to make this judgement and alter based on your own opinion.This is question not an argument.
I will of cource,if needed, create a seperate article with the discograpy and make a link from the main article.This discograpy is too valuable to be deleted an unobtainable.
I am under no circumstances interested in getting into any argumentation, I just want to be informed in how to do this the correct way.
regards
Rune Flyspes Flyspes ( talk) 08:20, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
hello
sry I am confused. I read the link. Who is talking to who ? Meaning that Wikipedia is updated by millions of users and under which authority shall some have the power to decide what is right or wrong =? You mention consensus. Please clafiry and point me in the right direction. The discussion also show a big lack of knowledge about the topic ..quote.."The music on them is going to be still available elsewhere (as they were re-bootlegged at the time, and also the music is from live performances- "..wrong...several of these releases are unique and can only be found on the original LPs..secondly at least half contain studio sessions..
another statement..quote.-"The lists were probably copied from Hot Wacks. "...wrong..the HW book is incomplete/wrong and I have used several years of research to be able to put the list together.Including contact with one of the founders of the label Ken Douglas who have verified some of the information.
..finally,this statement show how little the persons discussing know about the topic..quote.."Think I only had one Pig record, but I had a few TAKRL ones- didn't realise they were uncommon."..well that says it all..some of these originals are for sale for several thousand of dollars among collectors.
after checking again on Wikipedia do I realize that most record labels have a seperate article with the discography (cant see the logic) but I was clearly wrong.So would it be possible to ask for help to create an article and link to main TMOQ article or am I not allowed to ask for this and will have to do it myself ?
and finally,who is to decide that these rare releases are "non-notable" ? Thousand of collectors will prove that statement wrong. Just check the auction results on Popsike...I made a random search for TMOQ and found about 20 000 items sold for the value USD 100 and up to several thousand dollars.. http://www.popsike.com/php/quicksearch.php?searchtext=tmoq&x=0&y=0
regards
Rune Flyspes Flyspes ( talk) 10:56, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
Would you please explain in more detail why the submission was declined? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maliwilson ( talk • contribs) 18:54, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
The submission for Kevin Arthur Rolle was declined. I do not fully understand why. I compared the write-up to other Wikipedia articles. Would you please assist me in understanding this so I can make the necessary corrections? Thank you.
Malinda
Maliwilson ( talk) 19:22, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
Can you point out the website from which (according to you) the first paragraph of COMSATS Institute of Information Technology was copied in the last version edited by Master07420? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.32.95.139 ( talk) 08:46, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
No, thanks. I cannot waste my time again. You should have removed the article which was paraphrased. You, however, also deleted those paragraphs which were perfectly fine (the introductory para for example). You have wasted the hard work of a lot of people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.32.118.83 ( talk) 19:44, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
I apologize for making an inappropriate help message. I hope I don't do this again. TheGGoose ( talk) 18:04, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
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08:34, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
Hi Mdann52,
I am referencing my sources but the article still keeps getting blocked. How can I stop this? Is it worth requesting an article to be written? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emmaparkinson ( talk • contribs) 15:55, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
Hello, would you explain why you hatted a very large portion of the Allegations section of the 3rd Archive.is RFC with the note "nothing more to see here, just some incivility."? From what I could see, most of the content that was hatted was discussion on various allegations against Archive Today (including a bulleted list of the allegations), not incivility. -- Joshua Issac ( talk) 19:58, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
Mdann52 how would I find someone that might be willing to put together an article on a new film? Emmaparkinson ( talk) 16:12, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
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09:05, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
Per BRD, please discuss such large changes. I don't doubt that some of it may be an improvement, but too much is happening and you need to get a consensus for undoing a version created through the collaboration of many editors. Just explain what you intend to do on the talk page and I'm sure we can figure it out. There is no rush. Since you've done this before and been reverted, this is getting to the point of vandalism/edit warring, so please work with us. I AGF that your intentions aren't "vandalism" in the usual sense, but large deletions without consensus or discussion have the same effect. This isn't your personal blog or website. The article is covered by ArbCom's discretionary sanctions for a fringe subject, so tread lightly. -- Brangifer ( talk) 14:27, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
I merged two "I didn't hear that" follow ups to this one, if you want to assign it to me I'll give it a go. Just didn't want to take it over arbitrarily :) § FreeRangeFrog croak 05:10, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
Adam Cuerden ( talk) 16:25, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
Hi Mdann52, please don't collapse sections and discussion on arbitration pages. Whilst in good faith doing so generally just causes more trouble than it's worth. That's why we earn the big buck. If you've got a problem let us know and we can do something about it (as I was). Thanks, Callanecc ( talk • contribs • logs) 14:40, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
Hello, would you please clarify your recent edit at Andrew Marin? I understand there is an OTRS ticket afoot, but I don't know how to log in or look at it, so I don't know why you removed this material. Would you explain how to view the ticket, and why these edits were performed? Thank you. Just Tidying Up ( talk) 20:18, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
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09:44, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
Mdann52, I have begun a discussion at WP:BLPN about Suzannah Lipscomb. I am letting you know out of courtesy and to say it is not intended as a criticism of your actions, but as a general uncertainty and discomfort about some uses of OTRS actions. Please do not take it personally. 86.133.242.71 ( talk) 00:56, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
Just wanted to drop a line and say thank you for being an active contributing editor. - - MrBill3 ( talk) 05:44, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
Why you have removed my request for AWB? Owais khursheed ( talk) 16:47, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
Ok thanks-- Owais khursheed ( talk) 00:29, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
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06:10, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi MDann52,
I am the web coordinator at Austen Riggs. I emailed you about the vandalism we received. We have changed the page to what we would like it to say and you had reverted it back to simplify the language. We are OK with the previous revision before you made the change today. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.105.144.243 ( talk) 14:51, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
Maliwilson ( talk) 17:57, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
User:Mdann52 would you please check Kevin Arthur Rolle again? I have made the necessary changes.
Hi there, I've received an message; An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect A Madness Shared by Two. Since you had some involvement with the A Madness Shared by Two redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so...
How can I help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayfkay ( talk • contribs) 19:16, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
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08:54, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
Please don't put categories which affect other user's messages, especially when they haven't done it themselves. Her being blocked is not an excuse. Tutelary ( talk) 15:36, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
Why do you keep changing the article on James McGibney when the version that is there is as a result of discussions between THREE editors. The information is fully sourced to the America Al Jazeera news organization's website which has an article about this guy. Just because it is unflattering does not make it any less true. Why do you make unilateral revisions without talking to any one first? Can you please help me understand what it is that you are seeing that we might be missing? The added materials come straight out of the Al Jazeera article, do they not? And isn't Al Jazeera America a reliable source? The reporter who wrote the piece seems reliable enough, too. What are your thoughts, please? Unholyrollerz ( talk) 08:08, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
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09:33, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
Thx for the request to talk.
RE First 3 section being unsourced. They are not sourceable. By guidelines, then they all should be omitted. Yes?
RE There are Alternatives - I can find a source which covers the topic. Will that help?
Appreciate your input. The process is frustrating
mckeever ( 67.164.40.207 ( talk) 20:09, 5 September 2014 (UTC))
I see you have chosen to reject my article because it references IMDB. I have come across a good number of actress profiles that have Imdb as sources to reference films they've acted in but for some reason you picked this one to reject. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SamKiranga ( talk • contribs) 08:43, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
Why did you delete citations to 'Jezebel Complex' and the ABC Sound Quality Show which are valid sources? I have been watching how Wikipedia's volunteers have been editing this article, why are there three people in 2 days from Wiki doing this, surely this is a waste of resource. Another contributor on MC Opi's page said you are very focused on this. Just seems like some sort of agenda as the other contributor said. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.119.153.251 ( talk) 17:06, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
You have deleted several cited reliable sources, this is vandalism and will be reported. As for prolific ARIA award winning singer, this is correct. At this stage I will be reporting all of this, I have read through all revisions in the last 24 hours and I am now convinced there is a serious issue with the Wiki volunteers on this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.119.137.39 ( talk) 17:18, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
You deleted reliable sources, such as archive.org Jezebel Complex which actually has not only the writers names but an actual track. You deleted a valid source of a program schedule of a national government funded radio show. As for WP:BOOMERANG this only applies to unreliable sources for this incident, so you might want to take your own advice and read it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.119.141.110 ( talk) 18:46, 8 September 2014 (UTC) I can put over 30 wikipedia articles of music artist subjects that state prolific in context of their work, on your page in answer to your good faith prolific comment regarding other subjects on MC Opi's history but I gather you understand this, so enlighten me further, this looks like it has been an intense onslaught from wiki volunteers for 48 hours, you must know this due to your comments.
hello
I have to admit.I was quite shocked to see that you just deleted/erased several years of hard work and investigation into this label.Stating that,I quote.."Wikipedia is not a catalogue of releases".Ok, we all have different opinions but as far as I have experienced the view is that Wikipedia is a place to seek knowledge about all kind of topics. That is the real meaning and purpose of Wikipedia. The only place you can find complete information about this -70ths label is here on Wikipedia and then information about their releases including links to scans of some of their most famous albums is very valuable.I have used hundreds of hours to find all the catalogue & matrix numbers in order to try to put together the most complete story of the label.I argue very strongly against what you have done and will revert your update. But I want to discuss this with you before I do this. I see no harm in having the catalogue, and it surely dont occupy much space on the site.I know for a fact that the article is being used as a reference to many collectors who collect and try to find information.Now you make it impossible regards
Rune Flyspes
Flyspes ( talk) 10:57, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
I would like to add a comment.I made a search on Wikipedia for record labels and found hundreds with complete discography.so what is the difference between those and the TMOQ and TAKRL label ? here is an example with a discography simular to the one you deleted.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Note_Records_discography
Rune Flyspes Flyspes ( talk) 11:42, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
Hello again.
Pls advice were to find guidlines for what you are saying as I dont find any logic in this.Here is a link to another well know label with complete discography but few links to the the releases: /info/en/?search=Mute_Records_discography Why should a label discography be on a seperate article as most collectors looking on Wikipedia will want to read information about TAKRL & TMOQ and then look at the output of the label below. Secondly,what gives you the authority to make this judgement and alter based on your own opinion.This is question not an argument.
I will of cource,if needed, create a seperate article with the discograpy and make a link from the main article.This discograpy is too valuable to be deleted an unobtainable.
I am under no circumstances interested in getting into any argumentation, I just want to be informed in how to do this the correct way.
regards
Rune Flyspes Flyspes ( talk) 08:20, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
hello
sry I am confused. I read the link. Who is talking to who ? Meaning that Wikipedia is updated by millions of users and under which authority shall some have the power to decide what is right or wrong =? You mention consensus. Please clafiry and point me in the right direction. The discussion also show a big lack of knowledge about the topic ..quote.."The music on them is going to be still available elsewhere (as they were re-bootlegged at the time, and also the music is from live performances- "..wrong...several of these releases are unique and can only be found on the original LPs..secondly at least half contain studio sessions..
another statement..quote.-"The lists were probably copied from Hot Wacks. "...wrong..the HW book is incomplete/wrong and I have used several years of research to be able to put the list together.Including contact with one of the founders of the label Ken Douglas who have verified some of the information.
..finally,this statement show how little the persons discussing know about the topic..quote.."Think I only had one Pig record, but I had a few TAKRL ones- didn't realise they were uncommon."..well that says it all..some of these originals are for sale for several thousand of dollars among collectors.
after checking again on Wikipedia do I realize that most record labels have a seperate article with the discography (cant see the logic) but I was clearly wrong.So would it be possible to ask for help to create an article and link to main TMOQ article or am I not allowed to ask for this and will have to do it myself ?
and finally,who is to decide that these rare releases are "non-notable" ? Thousand of collectors will prove that statement wrong. Just check the auction results on Popsike...I made a random search for TMOQ and found about 20 000 items sold for the value USD 100 and up to several thousand dollars.. http://www.popsike.com/php/quicksearch.php?searchtext=tmoq&x=0&y=0
regards
Rune Flyspes Flyspes ( talk) 10:56, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
Would you please explain in more detail why the submission was declined? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maliwilson ( talk • contribs) 18:54, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
The submission for Kevin Arthur Rolle was declined. I do not fully understand why. I compared the write-up to other Wikipedia articles. Would you please assist me in understanding this so I can make the necessary corrections? Thank you.
Malinda
Maliwilson ( talk) 19:22, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
Can you point out the website from which (according to you) the first paragraph of COMSATS Institute of Information Technology was copied in the last version edited by Master07420? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.32.95.139 ( talk) 08:46, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
No, thanks. I cannot waste my time again. You should have removed the article which was paraphrased. You, however, also deleted those paragraphs which were perfectly fine (the introductory para for example). You have wasted the hard work of a lot of people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.32.118.83 ( talk) 19:44, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
I apologize for making an inappropriate help message. I hope I don't do this again. TheGGoose ( talk) 18:04, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
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08:34, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
Hi Mdann52,
I am referencing my sources but the article still keeps getting blocked. How can I stop this? Is it worth requesting an article to be written? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emmaparkinson ( talk • contribs) 15:55, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
Hello, would you explain why you hatted a very large portion of the Allegations section of the 3rd Archive.is RFC with the note "nothing more to see here, just some incivility."? From what I could see, most of the content that was hatted was discussion on various allegations against Archive Today (including a bulleted list of the allegations), not incivility. -- Joshua Issac ( talk) 19:58, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
Mdann52 how would I find someone that might be willing to put together an article on a new film? Emmaparkinson ( talk) 16:12, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
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09:05, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
Per BRD, please discuss such large changes. I don't doubt that some of it may be an improvement, but too much is happening and you need to get a consensus for undoing a version created through the collaboration of many editors. Just explain what you intend to do on the talk page and I'm sure we can figure it out. There is no rush. Since you've done this before and been reverted, this is getting to the point of vandalism/edit warring, so please work with us. I AGF that your intentions aren't "vandalism" in the usual sense, but large deletions without consensus or discussion have the same effect. This isn't your personal blog or website. The article is covered by ArbCom's discretionary sanctions for a fringe subject, so tread lightly. -- Brangifer ( talk) 14:27, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
I merged two "I didn't hear that" follow ups to this one, if you want to assign it to me I'll give it a go. Just didn't want to take it over arbitrarily :) § FreeRangeFrog croak 05:10, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
Adam Cuerden ( talk) 16:25, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
Hi Mdann52, please don't collapse sections and discussion on arbitration pages. Whilst in good faith doing so generally just causes more trouble than it's worth. That's why we earn the big buck. If you've got a problem let us know and we can do something about it (as I was). Thanks, Callanecc ( talk • contribs • logs) 14:40, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
Hello, would you please clarify your recent edit at Andrew Marin? I understand there is an OTRS ticket afoot, but I don't know how to log in or look at it, so I don't know why you removed this material. Would you explain how to view the ticket, and why these edits were performed? Thank you. Just Tidying Up ( talk) 20:18, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
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09:44, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
Mdann52, I have begun a discussion at WP:BLPN about Suzannah Lipscomb. I am letting you know out of courtesy and to say it is not intended as a criticism of your actions, but as a general uncertainty and discomfort about some uses of OTRS actions. Please do not take it personally. 86.133.242.71 ( talk) 00:56, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
Just wanted to drop a line and say thank you for being an active contributing editor. - - MrBill3 ( talk) 05:44, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
Why you have removed my request for AWB? Owais khursheed ( talk) 16:47, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
Ok thanks-- Owais khursheed ( talk) 00:29, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
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06:10, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi MDann52,
I am the web coordinator at Austen Riggs. I emailed you about the vandalism we received. We have changed the page to what we would like it to say and you had reverted it back to simplify the language. We are OK with the previous revision before you made the change today. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.105.144.243 ( talk) 14:51, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
Maliwilson ( talk) 17:57, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
User:Mdann52 would you please check Kevin Arthur Rolle again? I have made the necessary changes.
Hi there, I've received an message; An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect A Madness Shared by Two. Since you had some involvement with the A Madness Shared by Two redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so...
How can I help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayfkay ( talk • contribs) 19:16, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
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08:54, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
Please don't put categories which affect other user's messages, especially when they haven't done it themselves. Her being blocked is not an excuse. Tutelary ( talk) 15:36, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
Why do you keep changing the article on James McGibney when the version that is there is as a result of discussions between THREE editors. The information is fully sourced to the America Al Jazeera news organization's website which has an article about this guy. Just because it is unflattering does not make it any less true. Why do you make unilateral revisions without talking to any one first? Can you please help me understand what it is that you are seeing that we might be missing? The added materials come straight out of the Al Jazeera article, do they not? And isn't Al Jazeera America a reliable source? The reporter who wrote the piece seems reliable enough, too. What are your thoughts, please? Unholyrollerz ( talk) 08:08, 14 October 2014 (UTC)