Peter, per the clear community consensus at the administrators noticeboard, you are now unbanned. I've unblocked this account and removed the protection on the pages. WormTT( talk) 13:20, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
Congratulations William M. Connolley ( talk) 10:19, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
Ha, I'm the first to welcome you back, cool! After all that has gone down, I'm almost surprised you still want to edit this site, but I'm very glad you do, you're a great asset. Bishonen | talk 13:28, 16 April 2015 (UTC).
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Congratulations, mate. Along with your first barnstar in your new wikilife. :))
And thanks to all those who spoke up for "Peter Damian". Andreas JN 466 14:20, 16 April 2015 (UTC) |
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For commitment to the truth in relation to the Contribsx ArbCom case. Vordrak ( talk) 20:04, 10 June 2015 (UTC) |
Surely you're just the kind of person who needs more kittens. William M. Connolley ( talk) 10:28, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
... to everyone who participated, for better or worse. (Perhaps a bit more thanks to those who voted for the unban, but whatever, I am sure everyone had their reasons). Peter Damian ( talk) 17:21, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for hanging in there, Peter, it was a long and bitter wait, I'm sure. Just remember to do your venting at the other place and to dodge conflict here. It's really not worth getting worked up over in the final analysis, there is always plenty of work remaining to be done on some other topic if someone gets in your face about something else. All the best, —Tim /// Carrite ( talk) 20:52, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
Here. They are ALL yours. Bonaventure, Anselm of Canterbury, Lanfranc, Robert Grosseteste, John Peckham, Robert of Melun (and any other medieval English bishop who also was a philosopher or theologian...). Oh, sooooo glad to see someone who actually likes philosophy to hand the upkeep and upgrading of those guys to... Ealdgyth - Talk 23:19, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
Welcome back from me too. The unban discussion closed too quickly for me to be able to participate in that (I had assumed it would stay open longer). If you ever get round to looking at Robert Boyle (still on my to do list), let me know, though I'm sure you have more than enough to do in other articles. Carcharoth ( talk) 21:12, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Due to byzantine Arbcom retardation I was unable to post to the WP:AN thread. The handful of opposes were an amusing stroll down Grudge-Holding Lane. Good luck, maybe Kohs can be the next one back into the fold. Tarc ( talk) 01:25, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
If I can help with anything, just ask. -- Anthonyhcole ( talk · contribs · email) 13:28, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
While patrolling today, I came across a stub which may be of interest: structural evil. I've given it a quick wash and brush up but I suppose that there's a lot more to say on the subject. I'm not sure if you are especially interested in ethics but your experiences might add some spice to the work. Andrew D. ( talk) 18:46, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
I came across something today that might interest you. I recently returned to an old draft in my userspace: User:Carcharoth/Article incubator/Selig Brodetsky Memorial Lecture. I first started this back in 2010 when my interest was piqued after writing Leon Mestel and noting the existence of the lecture. I then tried (and failed) to list the initial lecture series between 1960 and 1989. The lecture series was discontinued after 1989 and revived in 2002. I then constructed a list from 2002 to 2012 using a (now dead) source from the philosophy department at Leeds (this is where I remind myself I really need to learn how to archive web pages). This dead link is the first of the two external links currently at the bottom of the userspace draft. The second link there is one I found by Googling to try and find details of the latest two lectures.
Initially, I was pleased to find that second link ( this page). On closer examination, I was less pleased to find that it appears to be a direct copy of the list I had made. This is somewhat ironic. It is not the issue of licensing and copyright (as simple lists are not copyrightable), but the issues of attribution and circularity in references. If they had not copied the information direct from my userspace draft (the links to redlinks are still there!), I would not have realised. It seems the information went from the Leeds Philosophy website to my userspace to the Centre for Jewish Studies website (also at Leeds). You would have thought they would have got the information from their own records? Or am I reading all this wrong? Maybe the British Society for the History of Science will have independent records? Or even the Leeds University main site here? It make me wonder how many 'reliable' sources are copying Wikipedia... According to this search, the page in question was posted on July 28, 2013.
The other thing I noticed is that 'Charles Burnett' is a redlink - he is this bloke here (Professor of the History of Islamic Influences in Europe at the Warburg Institute). He seems to easily meet WP:PROF and seems to write on philosophical and medieval subjects at times. Do you think a Wikipedia article on Burnett would be useful, or, as I suspect you will say, should the attention be more on the articles on the subjects he writes about? Carcharoth ( talk) 13:14, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
In the television lecture list (which took far longer than I thought it would - it is now here for what it is worth, not much, I fear), there is a mix of famous BBC grandees, government broadcasting regulators, television executives, and as you go further back, some moderately obscure scientists and some very obscure BBC engineers who did lots of the pioneering work on early TV engineering (I had to laugh, though, when I came across Talk:Barclay Knapp).
The missing article that stands out immediately from the crowd is James Dwyer McGee, who was elected FRS. The usual slips are present in the sources. The Royal Television Society page insists that the 1963 lecture Television Signals - from Transmission to Receiver was given by a professor 'J.D.E. Ingram'. That should in fact be 'D.J.E. Ingram' (the name below him in the list is the aforementioned J.D. McGee, which may explain the typo). While trying to find out who D.J.E Ingram was (Professor and physicist David John Edward Ingram of Keele and later Kent University, in the NPG here), I came across this article about a university rare book collection unceremoniously sold off (but I digress). It is no surprise that there are four David Ingrams on Wikipedia, none of which are the one I was looking for ( David S. Ingram is a more famous academic). In a similar vein (with a name almost as common), you have at least 11 people named George Russell, none of which are the Sir George Russell of Newcastle University (see here) who was at the time Chairman of the ITC.
I don't think it is so much a case of 'Professor Cruft' as 'People Cruft'. The trouble with people is that there are a lot of them... ( Gordon Cook, Ronald King, Thomas Scott, and William Wright being more examples of common names - invariably, some sportsperson has taken the name first; I'm interested in the optical lens designer Gordon H. Cook and the Royal Institution professor Ronald King and the radio engineer Thomas Robertson Scott and the professor William David Wright, but there will be many other people with a similar name that have (or may one dau have) articles under the current notability guidelines). Carcharoth ( talk) 19:46, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
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Surely you're just the kind of person who needs more kittens.
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Lie, sorry 'like'
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Peter:
You might be interested to participate in this Request for Comment. Brews ohare ( talk) 01:24, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for your edits there, but I don't agree with the use of sources that don't discuss the subject of the article. Usually I'm telling this to people pushing a fringe position, which of course you certainly aren't trying to do. Dougweller ( talk) 15:50, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
It is sad, I agree, Peter. I remember one time I tried to add a textbook on quantum mechanics to What the bleep do we know!? article and had my hand slapped for original research. However, I have grown accustomed to the rule and actually now think that it lends itself to a kind of rigidity in Wikipedia that allows us to remove a lot of fringe claims and nonsense that gets added with ostensible sourcing. One of my favorite things to appeal to is WP:FRIND which basically says that we are free to remove any content in Wikipedia that hasn't been substantively dealt with by reliable sources that are independent of the fringe proponents. This allows for a lot of terrible content to simply be removed rather than rebutted with original research. You might also find that WP:FTN might be a good place to hang out if you're so inclined. jps ( talk) 13:55, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Personally, I'd be quite happy reinstating "evidence against" or even changing it to "evidence disproving." It is well-known in the skeptical community that there isn't clear and unambiguous scholarship refuting some of the more insane theories that are advanced, because they are sufficiently absurd on their face that no serious scholar will devote a chunk of his or her career to dealing with them. This is such a case, and the idea that Wikipedia policy requires us to treat the "Phantom time hypothesis" as a serious piece of historiography is a mistake. Newyorkbrad ( talk) 01:23, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
As long as we are trading tales of dark spaces of Wikipedia, perhaps you might look at Gordon Pask and the related articles?
jps ( talk) 20:39, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
If you wish. GangofOne ( talk) 00:13, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
The refs No. 59 and 61 (<ref name="am 2006 p91"/>) are broken [4]. There are more sources discussing this at G-Books but I can't identify "am 2006 p91". In the meantime, User:Francis Schonken reverts. It would be maybe better to develop History_of_Wikipedia#Formulation_of_the_concept or History_of_Wikipedia#Founding_of_Wikipedia, which briefly touches this part of the story. -- Vejvančický ( talk / contribs) 12:03, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
... for calling you a troll (by using WP:DNFTT) and for referring to WP:DENY in my rationale to close the discussion at Jimbotalk. Furthermore, I admit to making a bad assumption about your motives based on things I read off-wiki - which is not only against policy, but none of my business.
I do think the discussion was no longer going to generate value at the time I recommended closure, and was becoming a drama-fest. I do think closing such discussions is not only allowed but is a good thing, for numerous reasons. Nonetheless, I reiterate my sincere apology for all of my bad actions noted here. To avoid further drama, I suggest I not bother to strike my offensive words there. Say the word, however, and I will, or link to this comment. Best regards, JoeSperrazza ( talk) 18:53, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
So, what would one of these look like? I suppose it would have to involve expert review - if we're measuring more than just prose and formatting. -- Anthonyhcole ( talk · contribs · email) 23:01, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
Hi. I was considering (if allowed) writing a guest blog post for your Wikipediocracy blog regarding The Wikipedia Adventure and the "research" done to support it. Would this be allowed? Cheers! Reaper Eternal ( talk) 14:54, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
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Begone, creature of darkness Peter Damian ( talk) 19:29, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
Is it just me, but I feel like I've fallen down a rabbit hole. Discussions on Wikipedia appear to be about as logical and intelligent as the talk at the Mad Hatter's Tea Party or the courtroom of the King and Queen of Hearts. Or maybe somehow I've boarded an "Ark Ship" full of Golgafrinchans on their way to start a new planet.
I see that you've recently returned from a block. You don't seem like a very confrontational personality - more like a calm and quiet voice of reason. You should wear your block as a huge badge of hono(u)r.
The culture of throwing around unmerited threats in this place seems to come right from the top ... "if you disagree with me/revert my edit/do this or that again I'll ban you from my Talk page/block you from editing this article/block you indefinitely/boil you in oil" ... it all seems so puerile.
Is having no or poor self-esteem a prerequisite for participating at Wikipedia that nobody told me about?
Take care. — not really here discuss 11:21, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
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Here Best Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 00:35, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:WMF_Transparency_Gap
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Vote_of_no_confidence_on_Arnnon_Geshuri
You look like the sort of person who might be interested in temporal finitism, at least in its mediaeval aspects William M. Connolley ( talk) 15:20, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
You say you find it "hard to believe" that Gayle Young is stating she has no trust in Tretikov. Sounds like you haven't been reading the Signpost, or William Beutler's blog. Note the comment by "WMF Staffer" at the blog. -- 71.119.131.184 ( talk) 01:50, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
I am appalled by what is passing for philosophical explication at [5]. It's a jaunt through some pretty awful nonsense that is none the less surprising because this, apparently is the writer of the article.
Wow. How does SEP tolerate such awfulness? Do you know?
jps ( talk) 04:04, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
Just to update, sadly this whole thing went nowhere. I contacted a few physicists and philosophers and realize that there is an incredible gulf between consciousness philosophers who think that physicists are just naive physicalists and those who realize that there is something rotten in the state of "philosophy of consciousness". It doesn't help that arguments over the interpretations of quantum mechanics are not resolved. In short, while I think it was a mistake for SEP to choose the author they did for that article, it's actually hard to know what to do about it. jps ( talk) 12:32, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for your edits to the above mentioned section. I am so surprised that editors were being called by their first names in such a controversial matter. What would really help the narrative is if those who are talked about were identified as to whether they are/were on the Board at the time of the incident, if they are staff, if they are editors, just friends, etc., so we know how seriously to take their emails and the context of the emails. Editors like me don't spend much of our time studying what WMF is up to and who the big players are. So, I don't know who all was on the board at the time, or who for example "Pete" is. Basic facts like that are frequently missing from these narratives. It would be pretty simple to identify the players. -- David Tornheim ( talk) 13:51, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
Just letting you know per a request by Chalst on my talk page, I've restored User:Renamed user 4/logic and placed it at User:Peter Damian/logic just so it wouldn't get U2'ed. If you don't want it there, I'll be happy to find some other home for it. Courcelles ( talk) 19:03, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi Peter, re: your comments about James on Jimbo talk: my understanding is that there were board meetings on 7–9 November last year, followed by a meeting between certain trustees and the staff. The meetings were held to discuss staff discontent with the ED. The secrecy around the Knowledge Engine was one reason for the discontent. (These meetings have been discussed in various places, including most recently here from c. 00:54:00 mins.)
During one of the meetings, according to James, Jimbo said something about removing certain trustees. This made James feel under pressure not to rock the boat any further, especially as he was in the minority and was therefore rocking it without effect, in his view. He therefore not only supported accepting the Knight grant, but proposed doing so after someone suggested that he propose it. So clearly the word "following" was used in the causal sense.
If we knew exactly what was said, things might be clearer. I asked Pundit and didn't get a clear answer. I've lost track as to whether anyone has asked Jimbo. SarahSV (talk) 18:14, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
You mean "During one of the meetings, according to James, Jimbo said something about removing certain trustees. This made James feel under pressure not to rock the boat any further, especially as he was in the minority and was therefore rocking it without effect, in his view. He therefore not only supported accepting the Knight grant, but proposed doing so after someone suggested that he propose it. " ? Peter Damian ( talk) 16:56, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
On another matter, there is speculation above that this may have happened before, which would basically appear to have the effect of possibly impugning the integrity of everyone who has ever served on the board - how likely is it that they all never had integrity, honesty or courage? How likely is it that they have all have suffered putative threat in silence? Alanscottwalker ( talk) 17:04, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
To recap, paying close attention to what people have said:
There were board meetings in San Francisco on 7 and 8 November 2015. During those meetings, the board voted unanimously to accept the Knight grant (minutes). The grant was probably a minor matter at this point, because the board also discussed staff discontent with the ED. The staff appear to have asked that she be removed from her position. The board disagreed, and on 9 November Patricio and Jimmy met staff to affirm the board's support for the ED. Jimmy or Patricio told staff that the board's support was unanimous, but that was apparently not true. (See Wikipedia Weekly from c. 55:40 mins.)
During the 7–8 November meetings, according to James, Jimmy made a comment about removing board members. Note the plural (emphasis added): "potentially removing members of the Board" [12] and "potential removal of board members". [13] It seems likely that this occurred within the context of board support for the ED. Perhaps Jimmy was having difficulty persuading certain trustees, and he wanted the support to be unanimous to avoid weakening the ED. This is understandable. (Again, see the Wikipedia Weekly link above.)
Two trustees, Jimmy and Dariusz, have responded to the removal-comment claim, but they responded to a straw-man position, namely that James had been threatened with removal if he did not support the grant. But James has not said that Jimmy's comment was about the grant (he has made clear that it was not), or that the comment was directed only at James.
To address Peter's concern about the word following – "I supported [the grant's] approval following pressure which included comments about potentially removing members of the Board" [14] – it was in the causal sense in that the grant and ED issues had become intertwined.
If Jimmy did comment on removing trustees, who would it have been directed at? The following trustees were present: Patricio, Alice, Frieda, James, Dariusz, Guy, Denny, Jan-Bart, Jimmy and Stu. We can assume it wasn't Guy (he was supportive of the ED), and Jan-Bart and Stu West were about to leave anyway. That leaves Patricio, Alice, Frieda, James, Dariusz and Denny. James has said he did hear such a remark. Dariusz's replies have evaded the issue.
Doc James, are you able to add anything to this? SarahSV (talk) 02:00, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
Alan, for (4) can you be more precise? Exact context of what? The decision to support the ED? When you ask 'why it came up', does 'it' also refer to that decision? Thanks
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Thanks James, that's pretty clear, and you have also made clear which questions need to be asked of others. Peter Damian ( talk) 10:06, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
Thanks Doc James. The "it" in question 4 was referring to Sarah's "removal" "remark" in question 1, sorry if that was not clear. Could you be more fulsome on the context (who said what, etc.)? Also, this series may have introduced a new question. Was there more than one removal comment or discussion on different issues at different times during those November meetings? Alanscottwalker ( talk) 13:07, 26 March 2016 (UTC) (On the last question, who asked you to?) Alanscottwalker ( talk) 13:41, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
I have transcribed part of the podcast Sarah refers to above. My question is how much are Andrew and Liam discussing stuff that is public domain and how much is inside knowledge. Andrew implies he is 'pretty plugged in'. In particular, is this the only source for the information that the vote on Lila was not unanimous? The stuff about the systematic lying was new to me. Not unexpected, but it was news all the same. Peter Damian ( talk) 22:43, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
I looked on Wikimedia-l, for discussions on the 'unanimous vote' thing. Where did anyone actually claim that the vote on Lila was unanimous. There are references to Patricio's statement about 'full confidence', but full confidence doesn't necessarily mean unanimous. I can't find Patricio's statement. Peter Damian ( talk) 11:03, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
I left a question on Patricio's page. Peter Damian ( talk) 11:08, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
There is also this post on Mar 7 by jytdog that:
Peter Damian ( talk) 12:47, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
Thanks Peter Damian ( talk) 13:49, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
See here Peter Damian ( talk) 16:28, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
I have not had the opportunity to collaborate with you on any other projects in the past so I don't know who you support or don't support. What I do know is that I have had my fill of Jytdog's aspersions and innuendos which he has relentlessly used to discredit me. Regarding the Griffin article, you really need to know the truth about what took place there. My only purpose at Griffin was to make an awful coatrack of a BLP which raised concerns about liability a good article. That's what I do on WP - I work to get articles promoted to GA and FA. One of my attempts to improve Griffin can be seen here. Little did I know that we have a specific group of WP editors who believe it's ok to discredit living people and "expose" them as would a tabloid article digging up opinions of enemies of that person completely throwing NPOV out the window. The RfC regarding the lead at Griffin was closed in my favor, but the Griffin haters did not honor it. I tried to make them understand what they were doing to a living person but I was outnumbered and out-tenured so I backed away after months of them beating me with a stick because of their own misinterpretations of my intent - they in fact were the conspiracy theorists. You might also want to read the following which includes some of the highlights of what they've put me through for no justifiable reason: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Genetically_modified_organisms#Statement_by_Atsme. As we're seeing now because of what you've been led to believe, the denigration and misinformation about me continues. Perhaps my last comment at the Project Accuracy TP will also help clear up some of the fog. I consider it an absolute travesty. Atsme 📞 📧 15:58, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
Re this - I've been looking over the Nigerian articles and I don't think they suffer from the same verification problems as the others, although I have found problems in the past e.g. [16]. There may be other problems with notability and copyvio/close paraphrasing e.g. [17] (not actually as bad as it looks and some are probably copied from the article, but worrying all the same since this is a GA) but they've certainly added good content as well. SmartSE ( talk) 20:07, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
On Jimbo's talk page, it needs to be made clear that outing is not a concern here, as the editor has fully identified on his user page, and that the ANI discussion currently has majority support for an indef block. With ArbCom, remember that they can't and won't make policy. They will only enforce policies as written. If there is nothing in policy about fake credentials, they won't and can't make any pronouncements about this. Andreas JN 466 15:00, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
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Hi... I've submitted evidence to the Wikicology ArbCom case and you and SlimVirgin are mentioned from ANI because I am commenting on Wikicology's response. I thought I should let you know as a courtesy. Cheers. EdChem ( talk) 14:15, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
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What should, in your opinion, be done with these considerations: [18]? I don't know, being new to this. -- Softlavender ( talk) 03:08, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
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Hi Peter. I found your Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy vs. Wikipedia study to be very interesting indeed; it does an excellent job of illustrating the shortcomings of Wikipedia's system. It deserves more attention and will certainly have a place on the Content project page, so if you don't mind, I made some minor cleanup (adding a word for better flow, correction broken links, etc.) and updated an entry or so. For instance, the Aesthetics article now has a Japanese section, but it is a mere three sentences. I just wanted to let you know, and since it is your userspace you can of course revert any undesired changes. Biblio ( talk) WikiProject Reforming Wikipedia. 14:55, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
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In the text I copied from your workshop article covering (among other things) the semantic of logic, you wrote:
It would be good if we could find a source for this. I suggest [19], but you might have a better source in mind, seeing as my proposed source is in fact a little lukewarm about the claim. — Charles Stewart (talk) 10:46, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
The way you brought me up on Jimbo's talk page, inferring that my work is riddled with inaccuracies was in exceedingly poor taste. As bad as the DM article itself in my book.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:09, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
Dear Peter, I've been pondering next steps on Wikipedia quality and my thoughts are crystallizing around User:WereSpielChequers/Invisible flagged revisions. Would you be so kind as to run an eye over it? I suspect I've partly spoiled my case by my usual excess verbosity. But at some point I think it worth trying for an RFC. Ϣere SpielChequers 15:06, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
While I of course don't know your exact views on the subject, I think we may share a feeling that something is amiss regarding the editor who was recently scolded for harassing a BLP subject. After reading about it, I felt a firm conviction that the user definitely owed the BLP subject an apology. Instead, seeing the non-apology that resulted and was rewarded with an unblock, I now feel as though I am owed an apology, on top of the now-overdue apology to the article subject. Factchecker_atyourservice 20:24, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
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Imo the spam blacklist extension needs to be revamped so that (1) it uses a log entry-generating special page instead of a MediaWiki: namespace page, and (2) each entry potentially has an expiry. MW131tester ( talk) 16:04, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
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Peter, per the clear community consensus at the administrators noticeboard, you are now unbanned. I've unblocked this account and removed the protection on the pages. WormTT( talk) 13:20, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
Congratulations William M. Connolley ( talk) 10:19, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
Ha, I'm the first to welcome you back, cool! After all that has gone down, I'm almost surprised you still want to edit this site, but I'm very glad you do, you're a great asset. Bishonen | talk 13:28, 16 April 2015 (UTC).
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Congratulations, mate. Along with your first barnstar in your new wikilife. :))
And thanks to all those who spoke up for "Peter Damian". Andreas JN 466 14:20, 16 April 2015 (UTC) |
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For commitment to the truth in relation to the Contribsx ArbCom case. Vordrak ( talk) 20:04, 10 June 2015 (UTC) |
Surely you're just the kind of person who needs more kittens. William M. Connolley ( talk) 10:28, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
... to everyone who participated, for better or worse. (Perhaps a bit more thanks to those who voted for the unban, but whatever, I am sure everyone had their reasons). Peter Damian ( talk) 17:21, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for hanging in there, Peter, it was a long and bitter wait, I'm sure. Just remember to do your venting at the other place and to dodge conflict here. It's really not worth getting worked up over in the final analysis, there is always plenty of work remaining to be done on some other topic if someone gets in your face about something else. All the best, —Tim /// Carrite ( talk) 20:52, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
Here. They are ALL yours. Bonaventure, Anselm of Canterbury, Lanfranc, Robert Grosseteste, John Peckham, Robert of Melun (and any other medieval English bishop who also was a philosopher or theologian...). Oh, sooooo glad to see someone who actually likes philosophy to hand the upkeep and upgrading of those guys to... Ealdgyth - Talk 23:19, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
Welcome back from me too. The unban discussion closed too quickly for me to be able to participate in that (I had assumed it would stay open longer). If you ever get round to looking at Robert Boyle (still on my to do list), let me know, though I'm sure you have more than enough to do in other articles. Carcharoth ( talk) 21:12, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Due to byzantine Arbcom retardation I was unable to post to the WP:AN thread. The handful of opposes were an amusing stroll down Grudge-Holding Lane. Good luck, maybe Kohs can be the next one back into the fold. Tarc ( talk) 01:25, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
If I can help with anything, just ask. -- Anthonyhcole ( talk · contribs · email) 13:28, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
While patrolling today, I came across a stub which may be of interest: structural evil. I've given it a quick wash and brush up but I suppose that there's a lot more to say on the subject. I'm not sure if you are especially interested in ethics but your experiences might add some spice to the work. Andrew D. ( talk) 18:46, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
I came across something today that might interest you. I recently returned to an old draft in my userspace: User:Carcharoth/Article incubator/Selig Brodetsky Memorial Lecture. I first started this back in 2010 when my interest was piqued after writing Leon Mestel and noting the existence of the lecture. I then tried (and failed) to list the initial lecture series between 1960 and 1989. The lecture series was discontinued after 1989 and revived in 2002. I then constructed a list from 2002 to 2012 using a (now dead) source from the philosophy department at Leeds (this is where I remind myself I really need to learn how to archive web pages). This dead link is the first of the two external links currently at the bottom of the userspace draft. The second link there is one I found by Googling to try and find details of the latest two lectures.
Initially, I was pleased to find that second link ( this page). On closer examination, I was less pleased to find that it appears to be a direct copy of the list I had made. This is somewhat ironic. It is not the issue of licensing and copyright (as simple lists are not copyrightable), but the issues of attribution and circularity in references. If they had not copied the information direct from my userspace draft (the links to redlinks are still there!), I would not have realised. It seems the information went from the Leeds Philosophy website to my userspace to the Centre for Jewish Studies website (also at Leeds). You would have thought they would have got the information from their own records? Or am I reading all this wrong? Maybe the British Society for the History of Science will have independent records? Or even the Leeds University main site here? It make me wonder how many 'reliable' sources are copying Wikipedia... According to this search, the page in question was posted on July 28, 2013.
The other thing I noticed is that 'Charles Burnett' is a redlink - he is this bloke here (Professor of the History of Islamic Influences in Europe at the Warburg Institute). He seems to easily meet WP:PROF and seems to write on philosophical and medieval subjects at times. Do you think a Wikipedia article on Burnett would be useful, or, as I suspect you will say, should the attention be more on the articles on the subjects he writes about? Carcharoth ( talk) 13:14, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
In the television lecture list (which took far longer than I thought it would - it is now here for what it is worth, not much, I fear), there is a mix of famous BBC grandees, government broadcasting regulators, television executives, and as you go further back, some moderately obscure scientists and some very obscure BBC engineers who did lots of the pioneering work on early TV engineering (I had to laugh, though, when I came across Talk:Barclay Knapp).
The missing article that stands out immediately from the crowd is James Dwyer McGee, who was elected FRS. The usual slips are present in the sources. The Royal Television Society page insists that the 1963 lecture Television Signals - from Transmission to Receiver was given by a professor 'J.D.E. Ingram'. That should in fact be 'D.J.E. Ingram' (the name below him in the list is the aforementioned J.D. McGee, which may explain the typo). While trying to find out who D.J.E Ingram was (Professor and physicist David John Edward Ingram of Keele and later Kent University, in the NPG here), I came across this article about a university rare book collection unceremoniously sold off (but I digress). It is no surprise that there are four David Ingrams on Wikipedia, none of which are the one I was looking for ( David S. Ingram is a more famous academic). In a similar vein (with a name almost as common), you have at least 11 people named George Russell, none of which are the Sir George Russell of Newcastle University (see here) who was at the time Chairman of the ITC.
I don't think it is so much a case of 'Professor Cruft' as 'People Cruft'. The trouble with people is that there are a lot of them... ( Gordon Cook, Ronald King, Thomas Scott, and William Wright being more examples of common names - invariably, some sportsperson has taken the name first; I'm interested in the optical lens designer Gordon H. Cook and the Royal Institution professor Ronald King and the radio engineer Thomas Robertson Scott and the professor William David Wright, but there will be many other people with a similar name that have (or may one dau have) articles under the current notability guidelines). Carcharoth ( talk) 19:46, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
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Surely you're just the kind of person who needs more kittens.
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Lie, sorry 'like'
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Peter:
You might be interested to participate in this Request for Comment. Brews ohare ( talk) 01:24, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for your edits there, but I don't agree with the use of sources that don't discuss the subject of the article. Usually I'm telling this to people pushing a fringe position, which of course you certainly aren't trying to do. Dougweller ( talk) 15:50, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
It is sad, I agree, Peter. I remember one time I tried to add a textbook on quantum mechanics to What the bleep do we know!? article and had my hand slapped for original research. However, I have grown accustomed to the rule and actually now think that it lends itself to a kind of rigidity in Wikipedia that allows us to remove a lot of fringe claims and nonsense that gets added with ostensible sourcing. One of my favorite things to appeal to is WP:FRIND which basically says that we are free to remove any content in Wikipedia that hasn't been substantively dealt with by reliable sources that are independent of the fringe proponents. This allows for a lot of terrible content to simply be removed rather than rebutted with original research. You might also find that WP:FTN might be a good place to hang out if you're so inclined. jps ( talk) 13:55, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
Personally, I'd be quite happy reinstating "evidence against" or even changing it to "evidence disproving." It is well-known in the skeptical community that there isn't clear and unambiguous scholarship refuting some of the more insane theories that are advanced, because they are sufficiently absurd on their face that no serious scholar will devote a chunk of his or her career to dealing with them. This is such a case, and the idea that Wikipedia policy requires us to treat the "Phantom time hypothesis" as a serious piece of historiography is a mistake. Newyorkbrad ( talk) 01:23, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
As long as we are trading tales of dark spaces of Wikipedia, perhaps you might look at Gordon Pask and the related articles?
jps ( talk) 20:39, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
If you wish. GangofOne ( talk) 00:13, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
The refs No. 59 and 61 (<ref name="am 2006 p91"/>) are broken [4]. There are more sources discussing this at G-Books but I can't identify "am 2006 p91". In the meantime, User:Francis Schonken reverts. It would be maybe better to develop History_of_Wikipedia#Formulation_of_the_concept or History_of_Wikipedia#Founding_of_Wikipedia, which briefly touches this part of the story. -- Vejvančický ( talk / contribs) 12:03, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
... for calling you a troll (by using WP:DNFTT) and for referring to WP:DENY in my rationale to close the discussion at Jimbotalk. Furthermore, I admit to making a bad assumption about your motives based on things I read off-wiki - which is not only against policy, but none of my business.
I do think the discussion was no longer going to generate value at the time I recommended closure, and was becoming a drama-fest. I do think closing such discussions is not only allowed but is a good thing, for numerous reasons. Nonetheless, I reiterate my sincere apology for all of my bad actions noted here. To avoid further drama, I suggest I not bother to strike my offensive words there. Say the word, however, and I will, or link to this comment. Best regards, JoeSperrazza ( talk) 18:53, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
So, what would one of these look like? I suppose it would have to involve expert review - if we're measuring more than just prose and formatting. -- Anthonyhcole ( talk · contribs · email) 23:01, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
Hi. I was considering (if allowed) writing a guest blog post for your Wikipediocracy blog regarding The Wikipedia Adventure and the "research" done to support it. Would this be allowed? Cheers! Reaper Eternal ( talk) 14:54, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
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Begone, creature of darkness Peter Damian ( talk) 19:29, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
Is it just me, but I feel like I've fallen down a rabbit hole. Discussions on Wikipedia appear to be about as logical and intelligent as the talk at the Mad Hatter's Tea Party or the courtroom of the King and Queen of Hearts. Or maybe somehow I've boarded an "Ark Ship" full of Golgafrinchans on their way to start a new planet.
I see that you've recently returned from a block. You don't seem like a very confrontational personality - more like a calm and quiet voice of reason. You should wear your block as a huge badge of hono(u)r.
The culture of throwing around unmerited threats in this place seems to come right from the top ... "if you disagree with me/revert my edit/do this or that again I'll ban you from my Talk page/block you from editing this article/block you indefinitely/boil you in oil" ... it all seems so puerile.
Is having no or poor self-esteem a prerequisite for participating at Wikipedia that nobody told me about?
Take care. — not really here discuss 11:21, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
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Here Best Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 00:35, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:WMF_Transparency_Gap
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Vote_of_no_confidence_on_Arnnon_Geshuri
You look like the sort of person who might be interested in temporal finitism, at least in its mediaeval aspects William M. Connolley ( talk) 15:20, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
You say you find it "hard to believe" that Gayle Young is stating she has no trust in Tretikov. Sounds like you haven't been reading the Signpost, or William Beutler's blog. Note the comment by "WMF Staffer" at the blog. -- 71.119.131.184 ( talk) 01:50, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
I am appalled by what is passing for philosophical explication at [5]. It's a jaunt through some pretty awful nonsense that is none the less surprising because this, apparently is the writer of the article.
Wow. How does SEP tolerate such awfulness? Do you know?
jps ( talk) 04:04, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
Just to update, sadly this whole thing went nowhere. I contacted a few physicists and philosophers and realize that there is an incredible gulf between consciousness philosophers who think that physicists are just naive physicalists and those who realize that there is something rotten in the state of "philosophy of consciousness". It doesn't help that arguments over the interpretations of quantum mechanics are not resolved. In short, while I think it was a mistake for SEP to choose the author they did for that article, it's actually hard to know what to do about it. jps ( talk) 12:32, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for your edits to the above mentioned section. I am so surprised that editors were being called by their first names in such a controversial matter. What would really help the narrative is if those who are talked about were identified as to whether they are/were on the Board at the time of the incident, if they are staff, if they are editors, just friends, etc., so we know how seriously to take their emails and the context of the emails. Editors like me don't spend much of our time studying what WMF is up to and who the big players are. So, I don't know who all was on the board at the time, or who for example "Pete" is. Basic facts like that are frequently missing from these narratives. It would be pretty simple to identify the players. -- David Tornheim ( talk) 13:51, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
Just letting you know per a request by Chalst on my talk page, I've restored User:Renamed user 4/logic and placed it at User:Peter Damian/logic just so it wouldn't get U2'ed. If you don't want it there, I'll be happy to find some other home for it. Courcelles ( talk) 19:03, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi Peter, re: your comments about James on Jimbo talk: my understanding is that there were board meetings on 7–9 November last year, followed by a meeting between certain trustees and the staff. The meetings were held to discuss staff discontent with the ED. The secrecy around the Knowledge Engine was one reason for the discontent. (These meetings have been discussed in various places, including most recently here from c. 00:54:00 mins.)
During one of the meetings, according to James, Jimbo said something about removing certain trustees. This made James feel under pressure not to rock the boat any further, especially as he was in the minority and was therefore rocking it without effect, in his view. He therefore not only supported accepting the Knight grant, but proposed doing so after someone suggested that he propose it. So clearly the word "following" was used in the causal sense.
If we knew exactly what was said, things might be clearer. I asked Pundit and didn't get a clear answer. I've lost track as to whether anyone has asked Jimbo. SarahSV (talk) 18:14, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
You mean "During one of the meetings, according to James, Jimbo said something about removing certain trustees. This made James feel under pressure not to rock the boat any further, especially as he was in the minority and was therefore rocking it without effect, in his view. He therefore not only supported accepting the Knight grant, but proposed doing so after someone suggested that he propose it. " ? Peter Damian ( talk) 16:56, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
On another matter, there is speculation above that this may have happened before, which would basically appear to have the effect of possibly impugning the integrity of everyone who has ever served on the board - how likely is it that they all never had integrity, honesty or courage? How likely is it that they have all have suffered putative threat in silence? Alanscottwalker ( talk) 17:04, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
To recap, paying close attention to what people have said:
There were board meetings in San Francisco on 7 and 8 November 2015. During those meetings, the board voted unanimously to accept the Knight grant (minutes). The grant was probably a minor matter at this point, because the board also discussed staff discontent with the ED. The staff appear to have asked that she be removed from her position. The board disagreed, and on 9 November Patricio and Jimmy met staff to affirm the board's support for the ED. Jimmy or Patricio told staff that the board's support was unanimous, but that was apparently not true. (See Wikipedia Weekly from c. 55:40 mins.)
During the 7–8 November meetings, according to James, Jimmy made a comment about removing board members. Note the plural (emphasis added): "potentially removing members of the Board" [12] and "potential removal of board members". [13] It seems likely that this occurred within the context of board support for the ED. Perhaps Jimmy was having difficulty persuading certain trustees, and he wanted the support to be unanimous to avoid weakening the ED. This is understandable. (Again, see the Wikipedia Weekly link above.)
Two trustees, Jimmy and Dariusz, have responded to the removal-comment claim, but they responded to a straw-man position, namely that James had been threatened with removal if he did not support the grant. But James has not said that Jimmy's comment was about the grant (he has made clear that it was not), or that the comment was directed only at James.
To address Peter's concern about the word following – "I supported [the grant's] approval following pressure which included comments about potentially removing members of the Board" [14] – it was in the causal sense in that the grant and ED issues had become intertwined.
If Jimmy did comment on removing trustees, who would it have been directed at? The following trustees were present: Patricio, Alice, Frieda, James, Dariusz, Guy, Denny, Jan-Bart, Jimmy and Stu. We can assume it wasn't Guy (he was supportive of the ED), and Jan-Bart and Stu West were about to leave anyway. That leaves Patricio, Alice, Frieda, James, Dariusz and Denny. James has said he did hear such a remark. Dariusz's replies have evaded the issue.
Doc James, are you able to add anything to this? SarahSV (talk) 02:00, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
Alan, for (4) can you be more precise? Exact context of what? The decision to support the ED? When you ask 'why it came up', does 'it' also refer to that decision? Thanks
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Thanks James, that's pretty clear, and you have also made clear which questions need to be asked of others. Peter Damian ( talk) 10:06, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
Thanks Doc James. The "it" in question 4 was referring to Sarah's "removal" "remark" in question 1, sorry if that was not clear. Could you be more fulsome on the context (who said what, etc.)? Also, this series may have introduced a new question. Was there more than one removal comment or discussion on different issues at different times during those November meetings? Alanscottwalker ( talk) 13:07, 26 March 2016 (UTC) (On the last question, who asked you to?) Alanscottwalker ( talk) 13:41, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
I have transcribed part of the podcast Sarah refers to above. My question is how much are Andrew and Liam discussing stuff that is public domain and how much is inside knowledge. Andrew implies he is 'pretty plugged in'. In particular, is this the only source for the information that the vote on Lila was not unanimous? The stuff about the systematic lying was new to me. Not unexpected, but it was news all the same. Peter Damian ( talk) 22:43, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
I looked on Wikimedia-l, for discussions on the 'unanimous vote' thing. Where did anyone actually claim that the vote on Lila was unanimous. There are references to Patricio's statement about 'full confidence', but full confidence doesn't necessarily mean unanimous. I can't find Patricio's statement. Peter Damian ( talk) 11:03, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
I left a question on Patricio's page. Peter Damian ( talk) 11:08, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
There is also this post on Mar 7 by jytdog that:
Peter Damian ( talk) 12:47, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
Thanks Peter Damian ( talk) 13:49, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
See here Peter Damian ( talk) 16:28, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
I have not had the opportunity to collaborate with you on any other projects in the past so I don't know who you support or don't support. What I do know is that I have had my fill of Jytdog's aspersions and innuendos which he has relentlessly used to discredit me. Regarding the Griffin article, you really need to know the truth about what took place there. My only purpose at Griffin was to make an awful coatrack of a BLP which raised concerns about liability a good article. That's what I do on WP - I work to get articles promoted to GA and FA. One of my attempts to improve Griffin can be seen here. Little did I know that we have a specific group of WP editors who believe it's ok to discredit living people and "expose" them as would a tabloid article digging up opinions of enemies of that person completely throwing NPOV out the window. The RfC regarding the lead at Griffin was closed in my favor, but the Griffin haters did not honor it. I tried to make them understand what they were doing to a living person but I was outnumbered and out-tenured so I backed away after months of them beating me with a stick because of their own misinterpretations of my intent - they in fact were the conspiracy theorists. You might also want to read the following which includes some of the highlights of what they've put me through for no justifiable reason: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Genetically_modified_organisms#Statement_by_Atsme. As we're seeing now because of what you've been led to believe, the denigration and misinformation about me continues. Perhaps my last comment at the Project Accuracy TP will also help clear up some of the fog. I consider it an absolute travesty. Atsme 📞 📧 15:58, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
Re this - I've been looking over the Nigerian articles and I don't think they suffer from the same verification problems as the others, although I have found problems in the past e.g. [16]. There may be other problems with notability and copyvio/close paraphrasing e.g. [17] (not actually as bad as it looks and some are probably copied from the article, but worrying all the same since this is a GA) but they've certainly added good content as well. SmartSE ( talk) 20:07, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
On Jimbo's talk page, it needs to be made clear that outing is not a concern here, as the editor has fully identified on his user page, and that the ANI discussion currently has majority support for an indef block. With ArbCom, remember that they can't and won't make policy. They will only enforce policies as written. If there is nothing in policy about fake credentials, they won't and can't make any pronouncements about this. Andreas JN 466 15:00, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
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Hi... I've submitted evidence to the Wikicology ArbCom case and you and SlimVirgin are mentioned from ANI because I am commenting on Wikicology's response. I thought I should let you know as a courtesy. Cheers. EdChem ( talk) 14:15, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
There is a dispute at Talk:Timothy Leary and Talk:Aldous Huxley regarding whether the subjects of those articles were philosophers. In particular, should the articles include "philosopher" as an occupation? I don't think any editors of philosophy topics have commented so you may like to have a look. The issue was mentioned at WT:PHIL but there doesn't seem to be much activity there. Johnuniq ( talk) 00:31, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
What should, in your opinion, be done with these considerations: [18]? I don't know, being new to this. -- Softlavender ( talk) 03:08, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
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Hi Peter. I found your Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy vs. Wikipedia study to be very interesting indeed; it does an excellent job of illustrating the shortcomings of Wikipedia's system. It deserves more attention and will certainly have a place on the Content project page, so if you don't mind, I made some minor cleanup (adding a word for better flow, correction broken links, etc.) and updated an entry or so. For instance, the Aesthetics article now has a Japanese section, but it is a mere three sentences. I just wanted to let you know, and since it is your userspace you can of course revert any undesired changes. Biblio ( talk) WikiProject Reforming Wikipedia. 14:55, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
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In the text I copied from your workshop article covering (among other things) the semantic of logic, you wrote:
It would be good if we could find a source for this. I suggest [19], but you might have a better source in mind, seeing as my proposed source is in fact a little lukewarm about the claim. — Charles Stewart (talk) 10:46, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
The way you brought me up on Jimbo's talk page, inferring that my work is riddled with inaccuracies was in exceedingly poor taste. As bad as the DM article itself in my book.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:09, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
Dear Peter, I've been pondering next steps on Wikipedia quality and my thoughts are crystallizing around User:WereSpielChequers/Invisible flagged revisions. Would you be so kind as to run an eye over it? I suspect I've partly spoiled my case by my usual excess verbosity. But at some point I think it worth trying for an RFC. Ϣere SpielChequers 15:06, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
While I of course don't know your exact views on the subject, I think we may share a feeling that something is amiss regarding the editor who was recently scolded for harassing a BLP subject. After reading about it, I felt a firm conviction that the user definitely owed the BLP subject an apology. Instead, seeing the non-apology that resulted and was rewarded with an unblock, I now feel as though I am owed an apology, on top of the now-overdue apology to the article subject. Factchecker_atyourservice 20:24, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
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Is it time to remove The Logic Museum from the spam blacklist? Most of the pages on it are inaccessible to the public anyway.
Imo the spam blacklist extension needs to be revamped so that (1) it uses a log entry-generating special page instead of a MediaWiki: namespace page, and (2) each entry potentially has an expiry. MW131tester ( talk) 16:04, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
That's all.
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