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I also assume you are the person who recently used to edit a lot on Tolkien linguistics as an anonymous IP? Even if not, your name implies that you might be interested in joining WikiProject Middle-earth, a collaborating group of editors interested in JRRT's work and legacy. Feel free to have a look. De728631 ( talk) 22:13, 3 January 2011 (UTC) reply

January 2011

Welcome to Wikipedia. Please do not replace pages with blank content, as you did with this edit to Talk:Khuzdul, as this is confusing to readers. The page's content has been restored for now. If there is a problem with the page, it should be edited or reverted to a previous version if possible; if you think the page should be removed entirely, see further information. Thank you. TheMikeWassup doc? 12:03, 4 January 2011 (UTC) reply

Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you recently tried to give Khuzdûl a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into another page with a different name. This is known as a " cut and paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is needed for attribution and various other purposes. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

In most cases, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page. This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen. Thank you. De728631 ( talk) 22:57, 4 January 2011 (UTC) reply

Yes, sometimes Wikipedia can be a bit complicated but most things are easily learned. Now we just have to wait for an andministrator to merge the two strings of page histories and the move will be complete. Next time you click the "move" button somewhere, the old history will automatically be transferred to the new title. The problem with Khuzdul and Khuzdûl was simply that the target page already existed with an edit history of its own. Cheers, De728631 ( talk) 23:14, 4 January 2011 (UTC) reply

a couple of repeated errors

  • developed has only one 'p' in English.
  • e.g. [exempli gratia] means 'for example'; it is not a synonym of i.e. [id est] 'that is'. Thus: "I've studied several conlangs, i.e. constructed languages, e.g. Novial."

From your distinctive misspellings (another was compagnies) I'm guessing that your first language is French? — Tamfang ( talk) 07:13, 24 January 2011 (UTC) reply

  • dropped, on the other hand ... — Tamfang ( talk) 22:46, 4 February 2011 (UTC) reply

Quenya and Sindarin

Hello. Before you continue editing these two articles and even undo previous good-faith edits without any comment, I would like you to join the recent discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Middle-earth#"neo-language" about Neo-languages. It seems that more than editor recently disagreed with your view on the topic so that's why we reverted of your previous contributions — which you should not restored without prior discussion. Regards, De728631 ( talk) 18:01, 9 February 2011 (UTC) reply

Thank you

The Modest Barnstar
Thanks for your recent contributions! 129.49.72.78 ( talk) 16:50, 22 February 2011 (UTC) reply

Your recent edits

Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Gondolin, without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you. De728631 ( talk) 22:35, 10 May 2011 (UTC) reply

Source vs External Links

Please stop removing External Links and quoting 'unreliable source'. An external link is not the same as a source. Carl Sixsmith ( talk) 07:40, 13 May 2011 (UTC) reply

Tolkien Gateway

Please do not remove this from the "External links". Your reasoning that that website is not a reliable source is not valid because the websites in the External Links are not sources to the article proper. They provide alternative resources for further reading and the Tolkien Gateway is very often more comprehensive than the Wikipedia articles on Tolkien topics. That said, Wikipedia itself is not reliable either (see WP:SELFREF). De728631 ( talk) 20:01, 13 May 2011 (UTC) reply

Warning

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you.

You have been asked twice to not remove external links as "unreliable sources", which is not a valid reason. But you still you removed the entire section from Timeline of Arda today so here's a formal warning. De728631 ( talk) 15:46, 14 May 2011 (UTC) reply

May 2011

Please refrain from changing genres, as you did to Orc (Middle-earth), without providing a source and without establishing a consensus on the article's talk page first. Genre changes to suit your own point of view are considered disruptive. Thank you. Please stop removing Tolkien Gateway links in Middle-earth articles, you have been asked three times now and are ignoring the requests from other editors to gain consensus. External links are not sources. Carl Sixsmith ( talk) 14:25, 15 May 2011 (UTC) reply

Operation Greif

Hi Laurifindil, I noticed you removed a "citation needed" tag on Operation Greif without explaining why. I've undone your change for now, because I think the tag is necessary. If you think the tag should be removed, please leave a message on Talk:Operation Greif about why you think the tag is unnecessary, and in the future I would recommend using the edit summary feature so that other people can know your motivations. Wikiacc ( ) 20:57, 10 August 2011 (UTC) reply

In Universe.

Please familiarize yourself with WP:INUNIVERSE before removing any further tags. Carl Sixsmith ( talk) 17:26, 21 October 2011 (UTC) reply

Online sources

Please stop removing online references. Internet sources can very well be reliable and e.g. the Encyclopedia of Arda is one of them when it comes to Tolkien topics. There is consensus about using such references so please don't remove them on your own. De728631 ( talk) 19:19, 4 November 2011 (UTC) reply

Internet sources can be reliable

See above comment by De728631 ( talk). You are vandalising if you continue to remove valid sources. KennethSides ( talk) 16:06, 5 November 2011 (UTC) reply

This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Quenya, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. This edit where you still claim that "internet is not a reliable source" despite having been asked not to do so by several editors is an act of vandalism, even though you replaced the third-party reference with one by Tolkien. In light of your stubborn personal point of view that the online source was not reliable despite of consensus and given the various requests on your talk page to familiarise yourself with Wikipedia guidelines and etiquette I'm now delivering this final warning to you. De728631 ( talk) 17:14, 6 November 2011 (UTC) reply

I have also reported your editing behaviour regarding these internet sources to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring where it will be discussed. Please see WP:Edit warring for a formal description of what happens when editors who disagree about the content of a page repeatedly override each other's contributions, rather than trying to resolve the disagreement by discussion. You did not seem to be interested in any discussion so I've taken the matter to that official place. De728631 ( talk) 18:26, 6 November 2011 (UTC) reply

Orphaned non-free media (File:The.road.goes.ever.on 3rd.edition.jpg)

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You appear to be eligible to vote in the current Arbitration Committee election. The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to enact binding solutions for disputes between editors, primarily related to serious behavioural issues that the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the ability to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. For the Election committee, MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 14:28, 24 November 2015 (UTC) reply

Invitation to a research survey

Hello Laurifindil,

I am Allen Lin, a computer science PhD student at the University of Minnesota - Twin Cities. Currently, we are working on a project studying the main article and sub article relationship in a purpose of better serving the Wikipedia article structure. We noticed that you've created main/sub article relationship in J. R. R. Tolkien for Languages constructed by J. R. R. Tolkien. So it would be appreciated if you could take 4-5 minutes to finish the survey questions. Thanks in advance! We will not collect any of your personally information.

Thank you for your time to participate this survey. Your response is important for us!

https://umn.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_bvm2A1lvzYfJN9H

Here is the link to our Meta:Research page. Feel free to sign up if you want to know the results! https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Main/sub-article_relationship — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cheetah90 ( talkcontribs) 18:09, 4 December 2015 (UTC) reply

"Gnomish" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Gnomish. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 January 25#Gnomish until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Hildeoc ( talk) 21:17, 25 January 2021 (UTC) reply

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Welcome!

Hello, Laurifindil, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{help me}} before the question. Again, welcome!

I also assume you are the person who recently used to edit a lot on Tolkien linguistics as an anonymous IP? Even if not, your name implies that you might be interested in joining WikiProject Middle-earth, a collaborating group of editors interested in JRRT's work and legacy. Feel free to have a look. De728631 ( talk) 22:13, 3 January 2011 (UTC) reply

January 2011

Welcome to Wikipedia. Please do not replace pages with blank content, as you did with this edit to Talk:Khuzdul, as this is confusing to readers. The page's content has been restored for now. If there is a problem with the page, it should be edited or reverted to a previous version if possible; if you think the page should be removed entirely, see further information. Thank you. TheMikeWassup doc? 12:03, 4 January 2011 (UTC) reply

Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you recently tried to give Khuzdûl a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into another page with a different name. This is known as a " cut and paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is needed for attribution and various other purposes. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

In most cases, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page. This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen. Thank you. De728631 ( talk) 22:57, 4 January 2011 (UTC) reply

Yes, sometimes Wikipedia can be a bit complicated but most things are easily learned. Now we just have to wait for an andministrator to merge the two strings of page histories and the move will be complete. Next time you click the "move" button somewhere, the old history will automatically be transferred to the new title. The problem with Khuzdul and Khuzdûl was simply that the target page already existed with an edit history of its own. Cheers, De728631 ( talk) 23:14, 4 January 2011 (UTC) reply

a couple of repeated errors

  • developed has only one 'p' in English.
  • e.g. [exempli gratia] means 'for example'; it is not a synonym of i.e. [id est] 'that is'. Thus: "I've studied several conlangs, i.e. constructed languages, e.g. Novial."

From your distinctive misspellings (another was compagnies) I'm guessing that your first language is French? — Tamfang ( talk) 07:13, 24 January 2011 (UTC) reply

  • dropped, on the other hand ... — Tamfang ( talk) 22:46, 4 February 2011 (UTC) reply

Quenya and Sindarin

Hello. Before you continue editing these two articles and even undo previous good-faith edits without any comment, I would like you to join the recent discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Middle-earth#"neo-language" about Neo-languages. It seems that more than editor recently disagreed with your view on the topic so that's why we reverted of your previous contributions — which you should not restored without prior discussion. Regards, De728631 ( talk) 18:01, 9 February 2011 (UTC) reply

Thank you

The Modest Barnstar
Thanks for your recent contributions! 129.49.72.78 ( talk) 16:50, 22 February 2011 (UTC) reply

Your recent edits

Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Gondolin, without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you. De728631 ( talk) 22:35, 10 May 2011 (UTC) reply

Source vs External Links

Please stop removing External Links and quoting 'unreliable source'. An external link is not the same as a source. Carl Sixsmith ( talk) 07:40, 13 May 2011 (UTC) reply

Tolkien Gateway

Please do not remove this from the "External links". Your reasoning that that website is not a reliable source is not valid because the websites in the External Links are not sources to the article proper. They provide alternative resources for further reading and the Tolkien Gateway is very often more comprehensive than the Wikipedia articles on Tolkien topics. That said, Wikipedia itself is not reliable either (see WP:SELFREF). De728631 ( talk) 20:01, 13 May 2011 (UTC) reply

Warning

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you.

You have been asked twice to not remove external links as "unreliable sources", which is not a valid reason. But you still you removed the entire section from Timeline of Arda today so here's a formal warning. De728631 ( talk) 15:46, 14 May 2011 (UTC) reply

May 2011

Please refrain from changing genres, as you did to Orc (Middle-earth), without providing a source and without establishing a consensus on the article's talk page first. Genre changes to suit your own point of view are considered disruptive. Thank you. Please stop removing Tolkien Gateway links in Middle-earth articles, you have been asked three times now and are ignoring the requests from other editors to gain consensus. External links are not sources. Carl Sixsmith ( talk) 14:25, 15 May 2011 (UTC) reply

Operation Greif

Hi Laurifindil, I noticed you removed a "citation needed" tag on Operation Greif without explaining why. I've undone your change for now, because I think the tag is necessary. If you think the tag should be removed, please leave a message on Talk:Operation Greif about why you think the tag is unnecessary, and in the future I would recommend using the edit summary feature so that other people can know your motivations. Wikiacc ( ) 20:57, 10 August 2011 (UTC) reply

In Universe.

Please familiarize yourself with WP:INUNIVERSE before removing any further tags. Carl Sixsmith ( talk) 17:26, 21 October 2011 (UTC) reply

Online sources

Please stop removing online references. Internet sources can very well be reliable and e.g. the Encyclopedia of Arda is one of them when it comes to Tolkien topics. There is consensus about using such references so please don't remove them on your own. De728631 ( talk) 19:19, 4 November 2011 (UTC) reply

Internet sources can be reliable

See above comment by De728631 ( talk). You are vandalising if you continue to remove valid sources. KennethSides ( talk) 16:06, 5 November 2011 (UTC) reply

This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Quenya, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. This edit where you still claim that "internet is not a reliable source" despite having been asked not to do so by several editors is an act of vandalism, even though you replaced the third-party reference with one by Tolkien. In light of your stubborn personal point of view that the online source was not reliable despite of consensus and given the various requests on your talk page to familiarise yourself with Wikipedia guidelines and etiquette I'm now delivering this final warning to you. De728631 ( talk) 17:14, 6 November 2011 (UTC) reply

I have also reported your editing behaviour regarding these internet sources to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring where it will be discussed. Please see WP:Edit warring for a formal description of what happens when editors who disagree about the content of a page repeatedly override each other's contributions, rather than trying to resolve the disagreement by discussion. You did not seem to be interested in any discussion so I've taken the matter to that official place. De728631 ( talk) 18:26, 6 November 2011 (UTC) reply

Orphaned non-free media (File:The.road.goes.ever.on 3rd.edition.jpg)

Thanks for uploading File:The.road.goes.ever.on 3rd.edition.jpg. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'file' pages you have edited by clicking on the " my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Hazard-Bot ( talk) 04:15, 18 September 2012 (UTC) reply

Hi,
You appear to be eligible to vote in the current Arbitration Committee election. The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to enact binding solutions for disputes between editors, primarily related to serious behavioural issues that the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the ability to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. For the Election committee, MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 14:28, 24 November 2015 (UTC) reply

Invitation to a research survey

Hello Laurifindil,

I am Allen Lin, a computer science PhD student at the University of Minnesota - Twin Cities. Currently, we are working on a project studying the main article and sub article relationship in a purpose of better serving the Wikipedia article structure. We noticed that you've created main/sub article relationship in J. R. R. Tolkien for Languages constructed by J. R. R. Tolkien. So it would be appreciated if you could take 4-5 minutes to finish the survey questions. Thanks in advance! We will not collect any of your personally information.

Thank you for your time to participate this survey. Your response is important for us!

https://umn.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_bvm2A1lvzYfJN9H

Here is the link to our Meta:Research page. Feel free to sign up if you want to know the results! https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Main/sub-article_relationship — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cheetah90 ( talkcontribs) 18:09, 4 December 2015 (UTC) reply

"Gnomish" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Gnomish. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 January 25#Gnomish until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Hildeoc ( talk) 21:17, 25 January 2021 (UTC) reply


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