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====We were having some trouble with the inventor of AHP Thomas Saaty {TSaaty} and his wife {RozannSaaty} deleting criticisms to AHP and replacing it with advertising. I was looking for an appropriate tag but I guess I missed the mark by puting a vandalism warning tag on the article itself. Then another user added a COI tag. I removed that tag because the current version is the one that existed before the COI problems. I'm open to any advice on better ways of addressing this. Thanks. Hubbardaie 13:06, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
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Bayanteel in Övörkhangai aimag is not Bayanteel, but Bayanteeg (Баянтээг). There are sources in the web with Bayanteeg named a sum. But I think, Bayanteeg just now is a coal mining settlement (тосгон?) where a thermal power station is planned, paved road from Arvaiheer to Bayankhongor would be built via this settlement. I think it is not any 20-th sum, but tosgon in Narin teel. And in German Wiki it is absent... And Narin teel has to be Nariinteel. How to change articles names? Bogomolov.PL 14:47, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
can we please get rid of this article? it seems to have been a complete failure from the start, confusing clan names and geographical names. I don't know if any further information than "Kiyad is a group Yesügei belonged to" can be gotten from any sources, certainly not from the Secret History (where 'Kiyad is only mentioned once IIRC, and not even in a clear relation to other groups like the Borjigin). Therefore, it seems highly unlikely that the article would ever grow beyond something that could just as well be covered in the List of medieval Mongol tribes. Yaan 14:32, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Thankyou for making any adjustments to my edits on Mongolia but did you have to be so patronising in the edit summaries? I believe the page has improved now since yesterday ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you?" Contribs 13:36, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
Great work on Mongolia though. I hope we can eventually have detailed on articles on all the sums. Unfortunately there isn't that much online info is there? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you?" Contribs 13:45, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
Yes sorry about that no excuse - I intended rewriting it later - there are several other sources I want to combine. I may write my own version later combining various sources and rference it in my sandbox and see what you think. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you?" Contribs 14:48, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
To begin with I'd like to see all of the sums look like Chandmani-Öndör, Khövsgöl. I don't know where this info is from - I can't find it in the link. Yes I'd like to see the airmags with articles like the main Mongolia one also I also started List of Mongolian films ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you?" Contribs 17:14, 26 July 2007 (UTC) Just wondering how on earth you happened to be editing Template:Filmsbycountry!!! I didn't know you were remotely interested in film ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you?" Contribs 20:38, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
It happens, but Altai sum is on the chinese border, but Govi-Altai aimag capital is in Yesönbulag sum. I don't know what to do with Altai because a lot of wiki links are pointing on it. Usually two articles were created: Choibalsan (city) and Choibalsan (sum) if aimag capital and a sum with the its name are not the same. Bogomolov.PL 10:42, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
OK, Altai (city), but on Altai, Govi-Altai are links pointing on Altay city. How relink multinational links? Bogomolov.PL 05:07, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
I think, there are two aspects:
- Sum map needs to be updated, the label has to be: ALTAY (Yesönbulag sum)
- Coordinates label in Google Earth will be poiting at the same spot, the "fork" will be in Google Earth.
Bogomolov.PL 08:06, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
I think the history that I added to the entry is relevant. On the pages of other ethnic groups in Wikipedia the entries discuss the history of the people in addition to modern day conditions. What would the Jews be without a history? What is any ethnic group without its history? The Mongols have an especially illustrious one that is worth including. Jojokintel 19:54, 2 September 2007 (UTC)Seth
Hi, your name was recommended to me as someone who was one of the Mongol experts on Wikipedia? Do you have access to many reliable sources, specifically about their activities in the Middle East around the year 1300? We've run into some conflicting reports in our own sources, but our own books are mostly focused on the Crusades and the Arab caliphates, and none of us seem to have access to Mongol-focused books. And Google searches seem to be drawing up the pseudo-history websites, so we could really use help from reliable sources. Is this something that you might be able to help with? Any help appreciated, El on ka 16:46, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Danke schön mein bruder. I will obey the rules that you told me.
Auf wiederschreiben
Kızılsungur 22:15, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Latebird. Is there an option to delete my account from Wikipedia? Gantuya eng 02:50, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Do you agree with it? Tsagaannuur and Olgii with own territories? Several sum maps were changed also. Bogomolov.PL 16:44, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
It is a hypothesis only... To show Olgii city own territory presence I was forced to show this territory larger then aimag center star. Is this territory really so small? Bugat sum center is very close to Olgii and Bugat has to be out of the city territory. Sum boundary at NW, W and SW edge is surrounding Olgii, Bugat limits Olgii sum at SE direction, so I just looped the ring.
Tsagaannuur is a more difficult topic. You can find in the Google Earth that Tsagaannuur is in the "bootle neck" of the dale coming from Russian Altai down to Tsagaannuur. Sum boundaries are surrounding this dale from N, NW, W, SW, S and SE. To the E from Tsagaannuur are lakes, then dale narrows and cuts the range. This range I've vectorized as Tsagaannuur boundary. Bogomolov.PL 06:46, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Dashed lines - OK, it's possible... Other aimags:
Bogomolov.PL 07:14, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Натюрлихь! But it takes a lot of time... Now Selenge aimag is coming: 3 cities, 5 tosgons (the tosgon list is in official documents published at the aimag web site). Can we add tosgons to the cities table (Khentii aimag has only CITY table)? And call it "Cities and towns"? But Khötöl and Züünkharaa cities population is unknown ( Mandal, Selenge sum has Züünkharaa city + Tünkhel tosgon + Kherkh tosgon, so 22,000 pohulation is summa of them. But Züünkharaa city is large (for Mongolia, you see) and Kherkh is its suburb... So Züünkharaa city population is close to 20,000. Kherkh population is unknown, but school in it has 731 pupils, so couple of thousands Kherkh has. Bogomolov.PL 11:00, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Is it what you like? Bogomolov.PL 17:55, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Gray background was used to separate legend from map. The second reason - aimag star and sum quadrangle have white edges visible on the filled space only. Bogomolov.PL 08:32, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Found this new page. Maybe you have seen its yourself and can make more sense of it.-- Tikiwont 08:59, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
The frog, the frog--it has one mouth,
Two eyes and four legs;
It has jumped and jumped into a glass,
Who's gonna drink the frog in the glass?
Мэлхий, мэлхий нэг л амтай даа,
Хоёр нүдтэй, дөрвөн хөлтэй дөө,
Дэвхрэн, дэвхрэн жүнзэнд орлоо доо,
Жүнзтэй архийг хэн маань уух вэ хө.
This is the Mongolian text. :)
Gantuya eng 13:44, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi!
Someone recently started an article on the subject. I always had wanted to, but was a bit intimidated by the complexity of the subject - three years time frame; soviet involvement, indigenous power struggles, comintern meddling(?); purges within the party, the army, and destruction of the buddhist church at the same time; the somewhat real threat from Japan; maybe the contemporary events around Tseveen Jamsrano, Elbegdorj Rinchino and others, etc etc. Also, I lack good (i.e. post-1990) sources. So, what do you think could be done to improve the article? And do you think the title is now correct? I already posted the same on Gantuya's talk page, because I think the topic is one of the most important events of Mongolia under socialism and deserves a better article than the current one. Yaan 18:30, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Seems like an AfD candidate for me. Any opinions? Yaan 18:33, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi,
I think there is something wrong with the Mongol script in the Infobox at the IMAR article. I think I know what is wrong (see talk page of the article), and I also think I know what would be right (in unicode terms, Monggol would be 182E 1823 1829 182D 1824 (or 1823) 182F, and -un would be 1824 1828), but I don't know how to fix it. Can you help me out? Yaan 15:48, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I discovered www.baabarpedia.mn just for your information. Virtually most of the spelling are ultra-modern (Өгөөдэй, etc.) there, so people like me would be confused searching things there. This phonetical spelling should lead Чингис to Чингэс, Хубилай to Хувилай, but they haven't yet metamorphosed to that level. Gantuya eng ( talk) 05:45, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Uul, Nuur, Gol, Mörön, Khooloi, Davaa, Khötöl, Bulag, Nuruu, Khöndii, Tal, Govi, Tolgoi, Zoo, Khongor, Ukhaa, Toirom, Els, Khavtsal, Sair, Khyar, Teeg, Zag, Shil, Dörölj, Mankhan, Khamar, Oroi, Rashaan, Chuluu
May be I've lost something. Have we add this words to toponymes? Have we create the rule to the Naming Convention? Or this rule exists? Have we create list of English toponymes different from Mongolian? And add this list to the naming convention? Have we create the vocabulary page for mongolian toponymes naming system? Bogomolov.PL ( talk) 10:32, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Bogomolov.PL ( talk) 13:53, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
147.31.184.70 is typical hooligan! Bogomolov.PL ( talk) 17:07, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Kaldan was merged with Galdan Boshugtu Khan, and I also attempted to merge its talk page according to the instruction. Gantuya eng ( talk) 02:09, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Hallo Latebird!
Ich könnte gut deine Hilfe im Artikel über "Coverb" gebrauchen, zu dem man auch mit dem Suchbegriff "Converb" verbunden wird. Koverben und Konverben sind leider etwas vollkommen Verschiedenes, wie auch auch der Diskussionsseite schon richtig festgestellt worden ist. Der Artikel ist momentan in lustiger (oder auch nicht so lustiger) Weise geteilt in einen einleitenden Text über Konverben, wo ich grad noch am Verändern bin, und einen Text über Koverben im Chinesischen, ohne dass es prinzipiell einen einleitenden Text zu Koverben an und für sich gibt. Da Koverben und serielle Verben sich sehr nahe stehen, meine Kenntnisse über serielle Verben aber sehr begrenzt sind, kann ich hierfür ohne Weiteres auch keinen Text schreiben. Mein Vorschlag wäre, den vorhandenen Artikel zu "Converb" umzubenennen, den Text über Koverben im Chinesischen hier zu löschen, eine leere Seite über Koverben aufzumachen und den Text über Koverben im Chinesischen auf der Diskussionsseite von "Coverb" interessierten Autoren zur Verfügung zu stellen. Was hältst du von der Idee, und hast du Zeit und Muße, sie umzusetzen? Blöd ist, dass der Artikel im Moment eines Cleanups wirklich zu bedürfen scheint.
Grüße G Purevdorj 03:52, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
I also think the category Category:Monasteries in Mongolia is not needed. I thought it should be more specific, so I created Category:Buddhist monasteries in Mongolia - the idea being that it could then fit it into Category:Buddhist monasteries by country, which "Monasteries in Mongolia" will not do. ( Mind meal ( talk) 18:59, 2 January 2008 (UTC))
Hi! I saw that you have corrected the Mongolain names e.g. Khashbaataryn Tsagaanbaatar. Am I right that Khashbaataryn is the father's name and can I also call this name family name? Is the order for Mongolian names always at first father's (family) name and then first name? If so I would like to add a header to these pages to explain the name like this is done for Chinese and Korean names. Many thanks for your help and kind regards Doma-w ( talk) 01:00, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry, this was only a personal question because I wanted to lern more about Mongolian names. I didn't want to start a discussion about the genitive form or about a disclaimer. I do not know if there were discussions about using a disclaimer for the other languages, I only know that they are very helpful. Kind regards and many thank again for all Doma-w ( talk) 22:25, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi, do you know what the copyright status of photographs taken in 1910s/1920s Mongolia would be? My sources give no copyright info, nor do they say who shot the pictures or where and when they were first published. I am also a bit at a loss which copyright laws apply in this case on english WP. Mongolian/American/(Republican) Chinese? Thanks a lot, Yaan ( talk) 19:05, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi Latebird. Regarding your question about Ongud, I have the spelling "Öngüt" in J.P. Roux. Best regards. PHG ( talk) 18:11, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Just wanted to write and say that I like and appreciated your work today on the Wind Horse article. At some point I want to add a section on the Nyingma appropriation of the idea of wind horse for inner tantra - the breath work and channel work of tantric yogas - called tsa lung or sometimes just increasing lungta. But that will take some serious research to find non-secret references. I think the topic is quite interesting overall though, and I didn't realize it had such import in Mongolia. Great to read about that. - Owlmonkey ( talk) 21:25, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi, would it really have been too much to ask the actual participants before turning our workgroup into a project? As matters are, we have no intention of maintaining a full blown project. Living as a workgroup and leaving the administrative overhead to the WikiProject Central Asia was the perfect match to our way of handling things. Since I've never seen you work on any Mongolia-related topics, I find your way of handling this rather disruptive. -- Latebird ( talk) 19:26, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
I saw no purpose in keeping your clearly arrogant and rather obnoxious comments on my talk page, so I have deleted them. Regarding the articles subpage, it is generally my habit of filling that out as I go through the various articles to assess them. However, given your reception, which seemed to violate more than a few rules and guidelines of wikipedia itself, not that that would ever occur to you, of course, rest assured, upon completion of the articles list, I don't think I will necessarily have anything to do with the area of Mongolia in any way, shape, or form, including looking over any articles for inclusion in a release version, if only to avoid you and your own presumptuous, arrogant, and rather uncivil self. You should also have noted that at least one of the projects you proposed for deletion had received another member beyond myself before nominating it for deletion as well, if you had bothered to pay attention to such details. But, given your refusal to pay attention to any of the comments I had made earlier, and the note below about your terrorizing another wiki with clearly inappropriate demands of copyright violations on material which is freely available, I guess it's no real surprise that you didn't. :) John Carter ( talk) 18:17, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
You knew that everybody can use NASA images openly in Wikipedia but you intentionally put copyright violation sign in Mongolian wiki. Stop your racist terrorist actions in Mongolian wiki. Plus most images in german or french or russian language Wiki's have very different copyright format than english therefore our Mongolian format cannot be written only your preferred format unless you are something racist westerner. Orgio —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.191.18.223 ( talk) 19:57, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Now that I have spelled it out, I actually like the idea of a more pan-Mongolian work group. Not for POV-pushing, but because there may be a number of similarities, and those topics that are not similar may still be enlightning. Given that much of Mongol history, at least between 1368 and 1636, actually happened in Inner Mongolia, I think focusing too much on Outer Mongolia may be not the perfect path. Maybe Wikipedia can have both a Project on Mongolia and a Mongolian work group, with the latter being attached to Wikiproject Central Asia (as long as it doesn't get deleted, anyway) ?
Btw. there is also a picture of Zorig's statue at Image:Zorig memorial.jpg. The colours and the point of view are not as cool as one the picture currently shown on mn wiki, though. Yaan ( talk) 15:48, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
@Yaan, the scope of the work group should really be discussed there, and not on my user page, so let's not continue this here.
@John, didn't you promise to avoid me and all matters relating to Mongolia? Why are you still here, continuing to misrepresent what I wrote and how I meant it? -- Latebird ( talk) 13:05, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
As a past contributor to a Tuva-related article, I was wondering if you would be interested in forming a Tuva workgroup of Wikipedia:WikiProject Central Asia with me? If enough people show interest, I'll go ahead and create the workgroup. -- Stacey Doljack Borsody ( talk) 18:32, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
I notice that apparently you are responsible for the possible deletion of Central Asia Workgroup Project: WikiProject Central Asia#Possible Deletion of this project. Further, you are misunderstanding the cluster of areas involved Ubsunur Hollow Biosphere Reserve, Uvs Nuur Basin etc. Please desist from further unilateral changes. Please understand that the lake is a subset of the basin i.e. the basin is the larger factor, being a watershed for the surrounding mountains. The lake varies in size depending on how much water flows from the watershed and into the basin to form a lake. Further, please read the instructions about disambiguation pages on Wikipedia:Disambiguation. If a link in on a disambig page, that means an article is needed. Therefore, the redlinks on the disambig page you created are going to need articles. I tried to fix some of the mistakes on it. Regards, Mattisse 02:24, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
You seem to be determined to continue an argument which is in large part both irrational and completely ill-informed, and basically resolved to the apparent satisfaction of seemingly everybody but yourself. Since you seemingly have little or any information regarding the subject, and have also, so far as I can tell, shown no interest in even trying to find anything out about them, I will give you some relevant information.
Hi -- I'm trying to get a handle on what's happening over there. Would you be willing to not edit that article for an hour and a half to an hour while I try to read and wrap my mind around what's happened and what the essence of the dispute is? I'll let you know when I've at least read up to what's there now. Let me know if you have concerns. Aelfthrytha ( talk) 22:41, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Please do not make legal threats as you seemed to approach doing here [1] . If anything is construed as a legal threat, it is usually severely frowned upon on Wikipedia, and often results in a block. As regards to who is right or wrong in the content dispute, I don't know anything about it, but I know this is wording which you would be better to avoid. Merkinsmum 20:33, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
You indicated earlier that your own out of process requested of deletion of the new projects was because you were "pissed off". You have since then attempted to continue to beat the subject to death, even after it was pointed out to you that your own objections as you expressed them were at best not even remotely relevant to the issue. And yet you seek to continue to show yourself unwilling, possibly unable, to assume good faith, and even chose to directly avoid responding to the points I had made. I am once again forced to question, as per your earlier out of process MfD proposal, whether you are at least at times incapable of rational conduct. I have asked you again what specific purpose you sought to accomplish by your post on the AI/N page. Please be so kind as to indicate what sort of action, if any, you want taken, and on what basis. Thank you. John Carter ( talk) 20:26, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Check yours. Just some advice. -- Ricky81682 ( talk) 09:56, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi Latebird, thanks for your understanding. As I complained in History_of_Xinjiang discussion page, the article is extremely biased. It seems that original article tolerates history with no citations and wishful thinkings but denies historical facts with references.—Preceding unsigned comment added by FACT NEEDED ( talk • contribs) 12:19, 1 September 2007
Hi Latebird. I'm just responding to the comments you left for me on the Talk:History of Xinjiang. In quick summary you touched on, adding new content is not considered sweeping changes, that grammar is never an relevent excuse to remove material, that I left no content comments of my own, and that I bite the newbie.
I always remind people to assume good faith and I sincerely hope you don't take this the wrong way. I feel you made some fairly hasty judgements with out an understanding of the whole situation. As a result you made some comments that were almost scolding, yet the same could be said about your same comments.
I made no comments about the content matter, its grammar, and spelling, nor did I revert any changes on those grounds so please do not say I did. I did make a comment much like you where I said the disputed work should be cited and properly discussed. My presence on the article was not to be another contributing 'writer' but to address the edit war itself as it was flagged and nearing WP:3RR. Your paraphrase of, "I don't like that" had nothing to do with my comments on the page and quite frankly I see no constructive criticism in that remark and a lot of sarcasm which in my experience does not benefit an argument in any way.
I will admit I bite User:FACT NEEDED and probably should not have given him my 'personal biography' but you will see that over a couple hours we were able to come to a working understanding. I over-reacted because he reported me to an administrator as well as called me a vandal not only on my talk page, but other editor's talk pages and over a few other article talk pages. He also deleted comments and tags I left to encourage the other editors to stop reverting each other's changes and go to the discussion page or sandbox I had set up.
However, over the next couple of hours we all came to a working understanding. As you can imagine over that time length and all getting fairly 'hot headed' a lot was said and done and it seems like our argeements were not long lasting, but they were agreements and it's easy to judge from a far, but please do not be so quick to criticize, label people, and state their intensions as in this case I believe you were wrong. Not just about me but also with User:FACT NEEDED and the others. Looking forward to talking about this more with you. Mkdw talk 21:14, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Thank you, Latebird, for your help! Bogomolov.PL ( talk) 06:50, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Title of article is very important because with it people can access article and get information that people need. But how can people reach it with the wrong name? Your claim that "I don't like' is just absurd. I searched the article and couldn't find any because not only the title was named with her Japanese name during Japanese occupation but also her original name was spelled wrong. The other editors also couldn't find the article until today. I know the editor who created the article and your preach is not suitable based on ongoing situations and his "vandalism" on Korean related articles. If you don't know anything about him or 2channel stuff, your WP:Wikilawyering sounds just beyond WP:AGF, WP:POINT. The editor is very lucky not to get any warning because people can't access the article with the name! People don't easily get changed and the warning sign is very suitable because he should know that his past wrongdoing can be judged and discussed as long as he sticks in Wikipedia. -- Appletrees ( talk) 11:29, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi,
does this look good on your computer: Ula{{gh}}an/Ula{{gh}}an? On mine (currently Apple) it does, but I would like to know what it looks like on others before replacing all those latin gammas. Regards, Yaan ( talk) 16:35, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I think you may have been confusing things here. But I don't really feel sure enough to change it myself. Regards, Yaan ( talk) 15:43, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
I actually looked this up a while ago (after becoming suspicious of my initial translation) and according to Vietze "khairkhan" is a more honorary designations for mountains. I know it was my mistake in the first place, but I hope I have fixed most instances of this mistranslation now. Just so you know. Regards, Yaan ( talk) 15:04, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi,
The reason I used this form is because, according to van der Kuijp, writing in Daniels & Bright, this is what the Mongols called the script at the time. I don't know if there's still a word for it today. kwami ( talk) 18:10, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello,
I have complemented the article by listing a number of errors and msirepresentations in Weatherford's book. I trust you will respect them.
Ojevindlang ( talk) 19:19, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi Latebird I know you believe the task force is best as a branch of WikiProject Central Asia. I agree with you as until there enough people to sustain a full project and actively work at it this is best. However I strongly think you should open up to the suggestion that the Mongolian articles undergo assessment as part of WP:Central Asia. E.g {WikiProject Central Asia|Mongolia=yes|class-stub|importance=low|Mongolia-importance-mid}. This way we have an infrastructure in place on Mongolian articles and can monitor article progression but not have to even consider moving the Mongolia task force to a full project. Mongolia is one of the few countries on here which hasn't any form of individual assessment and I think it would be a major improvement to do it this way. Please let me know, thanks ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 11:05, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Could you do that? Its just I really think it is important that we take care of the articles, and assessing each Mongolian article individually. Please let me know when you have done it and the project members can be notified to help with tagging. Also I have begun adding maps to some of the articles. I'll try to get hold of a nicer looking map for Mongolia if possible though ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 10:23, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps it didn't come up at CFD, but I fear I'm still a novice with AWB and haven't figured out how to customize edit messages, and that one looked as good as any.
For the rest, I'm going to quote something that User:Blofeld of SPECTRE left on User:Ezeu's talk page last month, because he's more familiar with it all than I am:
The CFD discussion was back in 2005 when categories such as Category:Cities, towns and villages in Cyprus were created -see the edit history with the statement it was created after CFD discussion. Gradually the categories have undergone change as article content has developed. Things will only get better in regards to this trust me ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 20:34, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Beyond that, I don't know, honestly. -- User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 13:55, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Mmm its a little difficult to see on the new one. How about the one on the right? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 21:54, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello. You wrote "that's just one movie out of many, let's not start listing them all here". I took note of the fact that, without discussion, you removed the Popular Media section in the Genghis Khan article. Pity. "Mongols" is part of a film trilogy dedicated to his life. And what you said about films could be true about reference books. Cheers. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc ( talk) 16:48, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
I do understand the difference. Point was taken. Thanks and Cheers. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc ( talk) 16:26, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Latebird, this is a friendly notice to inform you of a discussion I have begun at Talk:Battle_of_Köse Dağ#Lev_Gumilev. Your significant contributions in the area of Mongolian history suggested to me that you might be able to contribute. Regards, Aramgar ( talk) 16:14, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Regarding They made well educated guesses as to the willingness of each principality to aid the others, and the level of ability of each to resist alone, and in toto. 2 things
-"and" is used 3 times in that same sentence
- the sentence is kind of choppy, maybe you could change it a different way
—Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Profitoftruth85 (
talk •
contribs) 09:52, 2008 June 19
Why do you keep removing our London Naadam from the Naadam page? Only London has Naadam outside Mongolia. That makes it special. Why don't you come and you will see it is special. We have musicals from Germany and family from Mongolia for the Naadam. Please stop deleting Mongolian culture. You are like chinese people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.74.23.89 ( talk) 22:53, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Dear Latebird,
Please receive these
roses.
Wish you a joyful summer.
Gantuya eng (
talk) 13:27, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
i was asking if anyone has any sources so that i could put it.im now putting it back Luke12345abcd ( talk) 13:27, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Image:Mongolia location map.svg should be used. Read this and this for example. We are now in the middle of location map standardization. If you have specific issues to the new map (borders, provinces, waterbodies etc.), just contact creator of the map. He is willing to make any ammendments, as I know him. - Darwinek ( talk) 09:53, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
If you feel that information about the word kibitka being a synonym for yurt is not relevant and has to be rolled back, please do something with the redirect of Kibitka to Yurt (cancel it or something). Though pages like this say it in fact may be a synonym. -- ssr ( talk) 12:59, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. You know I am not so good at that kind of work. -- Enerelt ( talk) 04:16, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Please refresh your cache for www.bayankhongor.com since there is relevant information about Bayankhongor there. The authors of that website are foreigners that live in Bayankhongor and speak Mongolian well. In particular, English speaking tourists can use the information to better plan their trip since there is scant information elsewhere on Bayankhongor. Fargarlicknots ( talk) 09:46, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
I saw that you cut out redundant material on the Golden Horde from the new entry for " Chingisid". I was thinking of adding quick summaries of each use of the word (principle, lineage, state, people), pointing to main articles for more detail. But I will not do that now. I am o.k. with your decision.
A question. I created this entry because it was in the list of requested articles. But when I look at the current version, it is more a dictionary definition than an encyclopedia article. Or maybe a sort of disambiguation page. I think it is valid to have an entry that points people searching for 'Chingisid' to articles that may be relevant, but is there a better format? Aymatth2 ( talk) 13:47, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi! I am sorry I didn't took the photo. It is from the website picasaweb.google.com [2]. Cheers, -- Enerelt ( talk) 01:09, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
I see. So you can reomve it. --
Enerelt (
talk) 10:11, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Hey Latebird, I notice that you keep an eye on the above articles. Przewalski's horse is a proposed article for the wikipedia 0.7 project (being put on the release CD) and if you want to eyeball it and put up a "clean" version for that project to use, go to User:SelectionBot/0.7/E-2 and pop in a permanent link to a "clean" unvandalized version. Thanks ! Montanabw (talk) 20:36, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
Hey, should I remove the references then. -- Enerelt ( talk) 07:55, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
What has being controversial got to do with it? Pawyilee ( talk) 14:10, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I assume you have heard that the Islamic calendar counts from the prophet's escape to Medina (622 AD, I think)? I don't know if that source in the article was relevant, though. It's just not necessarily from the 14th century AD. Regards, Yaan ( talk) 11:08, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Are you sure about his birth sum going by the name Gün, or is this just inferred from somewhere? Also it seems strange that the sum is named, but not the hoshuu or aimag. Or was his birthplace or his family part of some special administrative structure (like some Hutugtu's fiefdom)? Yaan ( talk) 16:15, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, really easy to replace, I'll get all my mongolian catholic friends to send me photos right away. Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 23:34, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Hello :)
you created this templates on Commons : Comons:Template:PD-Mongolia. It states that :
"The following works created in Mongolia are in the public domain in both Mongolia and the USA:
..." Is that true ? We only need it to be created in mongolia before 1972 ?-- Lilyu ( talk) 18:58, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi Latebird. It seems you're right about the Arghun letter. Thanks for the heads-up. In case you're interested, I've added some new stuff at Talk:Franco-Mongol alliance. Cheers PHG ( talk) 12:58, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Fröhliche Weihnachten. Yaan ( talk) 11:32, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
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====We were having some trouble with the inventor of AHP Thomas Saaty {TSaaty} and his wife {RozannSaaty} deleting criticisms to AHP and replacing it with advertising. I was looking for an appropriate tag but I guess I missed the mark by puting a vandalism warning tag on the article itself. Then another user added a COI tag. I removed that tag because the current version is the one that existed before the COI problems. I'm open to any advice on better ways of addressing this. Thanks. Hubbardaie 13:06, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
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Bayanteel in Övörkhangai aimag is not Bayanteel, but Bayanteeg (Баянтээг). There are sources in the web with Bayanteeg named a sum. But I think, Bayanteeg just now is a coal mining settlement (тосгон?) where a thermal power station is planned, paved road from Arvaiheer to Bayankhongor would be built via this settlement. I think it is not any 20-th sum, but tosgon in Narin teel. And in German Wiki it is absent... And Narin teel has to be Nariinteel. How to change articles names? Bogomolov.PL 14:47, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
can we please get rid of this article? it seems to have been a complete failure from the start, confusing clan names and geographical names. I don't know if any further information than "Kiyad is a group Yesügei belonged to" can be gotten from any sources, certainly not from the Secret History (where 'Kiyad is only mentioned once IIRC, and not even in a clear relation to other groups like the Borjigin). Therefore, it seems highly unlikely that the article would ever grow beyond something that could just as well be covered in the List of medieval Mongol tribes. Yaan 14:32, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Thankyou for making any adjustments to my edits on Mongolia but did you have to be so patronising in the edit summaries? I believe the page has improved now since yesterday ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you?" Contribs 13:36, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
Great work on Mongolia though. I hope we can eventually have detailed on articles on all the sums. Unfortunately there isn't that much online info is there? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you?" Contribs 13:45, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
Yes sorry about that no excuse - I intended rewriting it later - there are several other sources I want to combine. I may write my own version later combining various sources and rference it in my sandbox and see what you think. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you?" Contribs 14:48, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
To begin with I'd like to see all of the sums look like Chandmani-Öndör, Khövsgöl. I don't know where this info is from - I can't find it in the link. Yes I'd like to see the airmags with articles like the main Mongolia one also I also started List of Mongolian films ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you?" Contribs 17:14, 26 July 2007 (UTC) Just wondering how on earth you happened to be editing Template:Filmsbycountry!!! I didn't know you were remotely interested in film ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you?" Contribs 20:38, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
It happens, but Altai sum is on the chinese border, but Govi-Altai aimag capital is in Yesönbulag sum. I don't know what to do with Altai because a lot of wiki links are pointing on it. Usually two articles were created: Choibalsan (city) and Choibalsan (sum) if aimag capital and a sum with the its name are not the same. Bogomolov.PL 10:42, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
OK, Altai (city), but on Altai, Govi-Altai are links pointing on Altay city. How relink multinational links? Bogomolov.PL 05:07, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
I think, there are two aspects:
- Sum map needs to be updated, the label has to be: ALTAY (Yesönbulag sum)
- Coordinates label in Google Earth will be poiting at the same spot, the "fork" will be in Google Earth.
Bogomolov.PL 08:06, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
I think the history that I added to the entry is relevant. On the pages of other ethnic groups in Wikipedia the entries discuss the history of the people in addition to modern day conditions. What would the Jews be without a history? What is any ethnic group without its history? The Mongols have an especially illustrious one that is worth including. Jojokintel 19:54, 2 September 2007 (UTC)Seth
Hi, your name was recommended to me as someone who was one of the Mongol experts on Wikipedia? Do you have access to many reliable sources, specifically about their activities in the Middle East around the year 1300? We've run into some conflicting reports in our own sources, but our own books are mostly focused on the Crusades and the Arab caliphates, and none of us seem to have access to Mongol-focused books. And Google searches seem to be drawing up the pseudo-history websites, so we could really use help from reliable sources. Is this something that you might be able to help with? Any help appreciated, El on ka 16:46, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Danke schön mein bruder. I will obey the rules that you told me.
Auf wiederschreiben
Kızılsungur 22:15, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Latebird. Is there an option to delete my account from Wikipedia? Gantuya eng 02:50, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Do you agree with it? Tsagaannuur and Olgii with own territories? Several sum maps were changed also. Bogomolov.PL 16:44, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
It is a hypothesis only... To show Olgii city own territory presence I was forced to show this territory larger then aimag center star. Is this territory really so small? Bugat sum center is very close to Olgii and Bugat has to be out of the city territory. Sum boundary at NW, W and SW edge is surrounding Olgii, Bugat limits Olgii sum at SE direction, so I just looped the ring.
Tsagaannuur is a more difficult topic. You can find in the Google Earth that Tsagaannuur is in the "bootle neck" of the dale coming from Russian Altai down to Tsagaannuur. Sum boundaries are surrounding this dale from N, NW, W, SW, S and SE. To the E from Tsagaannuur are lakes, then dale narrows and cuts the range. This range I've vectorized as Tsagaannuur boundary. Bogomolov.PL 06:46, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Dashed lines - OK, it's possible... Other aimags:
Bogomolov.PL 07:14, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Натюрлихь! But it takes a lot of time... Now Selenge aimag is coming: 3 cities, 5 tosgons (the tosgon list is in official documents published at the aimag web site). Can we add tosgons to the cities table (Khentii aimag has only CITY table)? And call it "Cities and towns"? But Khötöl and Züünkharaa cities population is unknown ( Mandal, Selenge sum has Züünkharaa city + Tünkhel tosgon + Kherkh tosgon, so 22,000 pohulation is summa of them. But Züünkharaa city is large (for Mongolia, you see) and Kherkh is its suburb... So Züünkharaa city population is close to 20,000. Kherkh population is unknown, but school in it has 731 pupils, so couple of thousands Kherkh has. Bogomolov.PL 11:00, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Is it what you like? Bogomolov.PL 17:55, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Gray background was used to separate legend from map. The second reason - aimag star and sum quadrangle have white edges visible on the filled space only. Bogomolov.PL 08:32, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Found this new page. Maybe you have seen its yourself and can make more sense of it.-- Tikiwont 08:59, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
The frog, the frog--it has one mouth,
Two eyes and four legs;
It has jumped and jumped into a glass,
Who's gonna drink the frog in the glass?
Мэлхий, мэлхий нэг л амтай даа,
Хоёр нүдтэй, дөрвөн хөлтэй дөө,
Дэвхрэн, дэвхрэн жүнзэнд орлоо доо,
Жүнзтэй архийг хэн маань уух вэ хө.
This is the Mongolian text. :)
Gantuya eng 13:44, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi!
Someone recently started an article on the subject. I always had wanted to, but was a bit intimidated by the complexity of the subject - three years time frame; soviet involvement, indigenous power struggles, comintern meddling(?); purges within the party, the army, and destruction of the buddhist church at the same time; the somewhat real threat from Japan; maybe the contemporary events around Tseveen Jamsrano, Elbegdorj Rinchino and others, etc etc. Also, I lack good (i.e. post-1990) sources. So, what do you think could be done to improve the article? And do you think the title is now correct? I already posted the same on Gantuya's talk page, because I think the topic is one of the most important events of Mongolia under socialism and deserves a better article than the current one. Yaan 18:30, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Seems like an AfD candidate for me. Any opinions? Yaan 18:33, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi,
I think there is something wrong with the Mongol script in the Infobox at the IMAR article. I think I know what is wrong (see talk page of the article), and I also think I know what would be right (in unicode terms, Monggol would be 182E 1823 1829 182D 1824 (or 1823) 182F, and -un would be 1824 1828), but I don't know how to fix it. Can you help me out? Yaan 15:48, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I discovered www.baabarpedia.mn just for your information. Virtually most of the spelling are ultra-modern (Өгөөдэй, etc.) there, so people like me would be confused searching things there. This phonetical spelling should lead Чингис to Чингэс, Хубилай to Хувилай, but they haven't yet metamorphosed to that level. Gantuya eng ( talk) 05:45, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Uul, Nuur, Gol, Mörön, Khooloi, Davaa, Khötöl, Bulag, Nuruu, Khöndii, Tal, Govi, Tolgoi, Zoo, Khongor, Ukhaa, Toirom, Els, Khavtsal, Sair, Khyar, Teeg, Zag, Shil, Dörölj, Mankhan, Khamar, Oroi, Rashaan, Chuluu
May be I've lost something. Have we add this words to toponymes? Have we create the rule to the Naming Convention? Or this rule exists? Have we create list of English toponymes different from Mongolian? And add this list to the naming convention? Have we create the vocabulary page for mongolian toponymes naming system? Bogomolov.PL ( talk) 10:32, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Bogomolov.PL ( talk) 13:53, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
147.31.184.70 is typical hooligan! Bogomolov.PL ( talk) 17:07, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Kaldan was merged with Galdan Boshugtu Khan, and I also attempted to merge its talk page according to the instruction. Gantuya eng ( talk) 02:09, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Hallo Latebird!
Ich könnte gut deine Hilfe im Artikel über "Coverb" gebrauchen, zu dem man auch mit dem Suchbegriff "Converb" verbunden wird. Koverben und Konverben sind leider etwas vollkommen Verschiedenes, wie auch auch der Diskussionsseite schon richtig festgestellt worden ist. Der Artikel ist momentan in lustiger (oder auch nicht so lustiger) Weise geteilt in einen einleitenden Text über Konverben, wo ich grad noch am Verändern bin, und einen Text über Koverben im Chinesischen, ohne dass es prinzipiell einen einleitenden Text zu Koverben an und für sich gibt. Da Koverben und serielle Verben sich sehr nahe stehen, meine Kenntnisse über serielle Verben aber sehr begrenzt sind, kann ich hierfür ohne Weiteres auch keinen Text schreiben. Mein Vorschlag wäre, den vorhandenen Artikel zu "Converb" umzubenennen, den Text über Koverben im Chinesischen hier zu löschen, eine leere Seite über Koverben aufzumachen und den Text über Koverben im Chinesischen auf der Diskussionsseite von "Coverb" interessierten Autoren zur Verfügung zu stellen. Was hältst du von der Idee, und hast du Zeit und Muße, sie umzusetzen? Blöd ist, dass der Artikel im Moment eines Cleanups wirklich zu bedürfen scheint.
Grüße G Purevdorj 03:52, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
I also think the category Category:Monasteries in Mongolia is not needed. I thought it should be more specific, so I created Category:Buddhist monasteries in Mongolia - the idea being that it could then fit it into Category:Buddhist monasteries by country, which "Monasteries in Mongolia" will not do. ( Mind meal ( talk) 18:59, 2 January 2008 (UTC))
Hi! I saw that you have corrected the Mongolain names e.g. Khashbaataryn Tsagaanbaatar. Am I right that Khashbaataryn is the father's name and can I also call this name family name? Is the order for Mongolian names always at first father's (family) name and then first name? If so I would like to add a header to these pages to explain the name like this is done for Chinese and Korean names. Many thanks for your help and kind regards Doma-w ( talk) 01:00, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry, this was only a personal question because I wanted to lern more about Mongolian names. I didn't want to start a discussion about the genitive form or about a disclaimer. I do not know if there were discussions about using a disclaimer for the other languages, I only know that they are very helpful. Kind regards and many thank again for all Doma-w ( talk) 22:25, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi, do you know what the copyright status of photographs taken in 1910s/1920s Mongolia would be? My sources give no copyright info, nor do they say who shot the pictures or where and when they were first published. I am also a bit at a loss which copyright laws apply in this case on english WP. Mongolian/American/(Republican) Chinese? Thanks a lot, Yaan ( talk) 19:05, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi Latebird. Regarding your question about Ongud, I have the spelling "Öngüt" in J.P. Roux. Best regards. PHG ( talk) 18:11, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Just wanted to write and say that I like and appreciated your work today on the Wind Horse article. At some point I want to add a section on the Nyingma appropriation of the idea of wind horse for inner tantra - the breath work and channel work of tantric yogas - called tsa lung or sometimes just increasing lungta. But that will take some serious research to find non-secret references. I think the topic is quite interesting overall though, and I didn't realize it had such import in Mongolia. Great to read about that. - Owlmonkey ( talk) 21:25, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi, would it really have been too much to ask the actual participants before turning our workgroup into a project? As matters are, we have no intention of maintaining a full blown project. Living as a workgroup and leaving the administrative overhead to the WikiProject Central Asia was the perfect match to our way of handling things. Since I've never seen you work on any Mongolia-related topics, I find your way of handling this rather disruptive. -- Latebird ( talk) 19:26, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
I saw no purpose in keeping your clearly arrogant and rather obnoxious comments on my talk page, so I have deleted them. Regarding the articles subpage, it is generally my habit of filling that out as I go through the various articles to assess them. However, given your reception, which seemed to violate more than a few rules and guidelines of wikipedia itself, not that that would ever occur to you, of course, rest assured, upon completion of the articles list, I don't think I will necessarily have anything to do with the area of Mongolia in any way, shape, or form, including looking over any articles for inclusion in a release version, if only to avoid you and your own presumptuous, arrogant, and rather uncivil self. You should also have noted that at least one of the projects you proposed for deletion had received another member beyond myself before nominating it for deletion as well, if you had bothered to pay attention to such details. But, given your refusal to pay attention to any of the comments I had made earlier, and the note below about your terrorizing another wiki with clearly inappropriate demands of copyright violations on material which is freely available, I guess it's no real surprise that you didn't. :) John Carter ( talk) 18:17, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
You knew that everybody can use NASA images openly in Wikipedia but you intentionally put copyright violation sign in Mongolian wiki. Stop your racist terrorist actions in Mongolian wiki. Plus most images in german or french or russian language Wiki's have very different copyright format than english therefore our Mongolian format cannot be written only your preferred format unless you are something racist westerner. Orgio —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.191.18.223 ( talk) 19:57, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
Now that I have spelled it out, I actually like the idea of a more pan-Mongolian work group. Not for POV-pushing, but because there may be a number of similarities, and those topics that are not similar may still be enlightning. Given that much of Mongol history, at least between 1368 and 1636, actually happened in Inner Mongolia, I think focusing too much on Outer Mongolia may be not the perfect path. Maybe Wikipedia can have both a Project on Mongolia and a Mongolian work group, with the latter being attached to Wikiproject Central Asia (as long as it doesn't get deleted, anyway) ?
Btw. there is also a picture of Zorig's statue at Image:Zorig memorial.jpg. The colours and the point of view are not as cool as one the picture currently shown on mn wiki, though. Yaan ( talk) 15:48, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
@Yaan, the scope of the work group should really be discussed there, and not on my user page, so let's not continue this here.
@John, didn't you promise to avoid me and all matters relating to Mongolia? Why are you still here, continuing to misrepresent what I wrote and how I meant it? -- Latebird ( talk) 13:05, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
As a past contributor to a Tuva-related article, I was wondering if you would be interested in forming a Tuva workgroup of Wikipedia:WikiProject Central Asia with me? If enough people show interest, I'll go ahead and create the workgroup. -- Stacey Doljack Borsody ( talk) 18:32, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
I notice that apparently you are responsible for the possible deletion of Central Asia Workgroup Project: WikiProject Central Asia#Possible Deletion of this project. Further, you are misunderstanding the cluster of areas involved Ubsunur Hollow Biosphere Reserve, Uvs Nuur Basin etc. Please desist from further unilateral changes. Please understand that the lake is a subset of the basin i.e. the basin is the larger factor, being a watershed for the surrounding mountains. The lake varies in size depending on how much water flows from the watershed and into the basin to form a lake. Further, please read the instructions about disambiguation pages on Wikipedia:Disambiguation. If a link in on a disambig page, that means an article is needed. Therefore, the redlinks on the disambig page you created are going to need articles. I tried to fix some of the mistakes on it. Regards, Mattisse 02:24, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
You seem to be determined to continue an argument which is in large part both irrational and completely ill-informed, and basically resolved to the apparent satisfaction of seemingly everybody but yourself. Since you seemingly have little or any information regarding the subject, and have also, so far as I can tell, shown no interest in even trying to find anything out about them, I will give you some relevant information.
Hi -- I'm trying to get a handle on what's happening over there. Would you be willing to not edit that article for an hour and a half to an hour while I try to read and wrap my mind around what's happened and what the essence of the dispute is? I'll let you know when I've at least read up to what's there now. Let me know if you have concerns. Aelfthrytha ( talk) 22:41, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Please do not make legal threats as you seemed to approach doing here [1] . If anything is construed as a legal threat, it is usually severely frowned upon on Wikipedia, and often results in a block. As regards to who is right or wrong in the content dispute, I don't know anything about it, but I know this is wording which you would be better to avoid. Merkinsmum 20:33, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
You indicated earlier that your own out of process requested of deletion of the new projects was because you were "pissed off". You have since then attempted to continue to beat the subject to death, even after it was pointed out to you that your own objections as you expressed them were at best not even remotely relevant to the issue. And yet you seek to continue to show yourself unwilling, possibly unable, to assume good faith, and even chose to directly avoid responding to the points I had made. I am once again forced to question, as per your earlier out of process MfD proposal, whether you are at least at times incapable of rational conduct. I have asked you again what specific purpose you sought to accomplish by your post on the AI/N page. Please be so kind as to indicate what sort of action, if any, you want taken, and on what basis. Thank you. John Carter ( talk) 20:26, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Check yours. Just some advice. -- Ricky81682 ( talk) 09:56, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi Latebird, thanks for your understanding. As I complained in History_of_Xinjiang discussion page, the article is extremely biased. It seems that original article tolerates history with no citations and wishful thinkings but denies historical facts with references.—Preceding unsigned comment added by FACT NEEDED ( talk • contribs) 12:19, 1 September 2007
Hi Latebird. I'm just responding to the comments you left for me on the Talk:History of Xinjiang. In quick summary you touched on, adding new content is not considered sweeping changes, that grammar is never an relevent excuse to remove material, that I left no content comments of my own, and that I bite the newbie.
I always remind people to assume good faith and I sincerely hope you don't take this the wrong way. I feel you made some fairly hasty judgements with out an understanding of the whole situation. As a result you made some comments that were almost scolding, yet the same could be said about your same comments.
I made no comments about the content matter, its grammar, and spelling, nor did I revert any changes on those grounds so please do not say I did. I did make a comment much like you where I said the disputed work should be cited and properly discussed. My presence on the article was not to be another contributing 'writer' but to address the edit war itself as it was flagged and nearing WP:3RR. Your paraphrase of, "I don't like that" had nothing to do with my comments on the page and quite frankly I see no constructive criticism in that remark and a lot of sarcasm which in my experience does not benefit an argument in any way.
I will admit I bite User:FACT NEEDED and probably should not have given him my 'personal biography' but you will see that over a couple hours we were able to come to a working understanding. I over-reacted because he reported me to an administrator as well as called me a vandal not only on my talk page, but other editor's talk pages and over a few other article talk pages. He also deleted comments and tags I left to encourage the other editors to stop reverting each other's changes and go to the discussion page or sandbox I had set up.
However, over the next couple of hours we all came to a working understanding. As you can imagine over that time length and all getting fairly 'hot headed' a lot was said and done and it seems like our argeements were not long lasting, but they were agreements and it's easy to judge from a far, but please do not be so quick to criticize, label people, and state their intensions as in this case I believe you were wrong. Not just about me but also with User:FACT NEEDED and the others. Looking forward to talking about this more with you. Mkdw talk 21:14, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Thank you, Latebird, for your help! Bogomolov.PL ( talk) 06:50, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Title of article is very important because with it people can access article and get information that people need. But how can people reach it with the wrong name? Your claim that "I don't like' is just absurd. I searched the article and couldn't find any because not only the title was named with her Japanese name during Japanese occupation but also her original name was spelled wrong. The other editors also couldn't find the article until today. I know the editor who created the article and your preach is not suitable based on ongoing situations and his "vandalism" on Korean related articles. If you don't know anything about him or 2channel stuff, your WP:Wikilawyering sounds just beyond WP:AGF, WP:POINT. The editor is very lucky not to get any warning because people can't access the article with the name! People don't easily get changed and the warning sign is very suitable because he should know that his past wrongdoing can be judged and discussed as long as he sticks in Wikipedia. -- Appletrees ( talk) 11:29, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi,
does this look good on your computer: Ula{{gh}}an/Ula{{gh}}an? On mine (currently Apple) it does, but I would like to know what it looks like on others before replacing all those latin gammas. Regards, Yaan ( talk) 16:35, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I think you may have been confusing things here. But I don't really feel sure enough to change it myself. Regards, Yaan ( talk) 15:43, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
I actually looked this up a while ago (after becoming suspicious of my initial translation) and according to Vietze "khairkhan" is a more honorary designations for mountains. I know it was my mistake in the first place, but I hope I have fixed most instances of this mistranslation now. Just so you know. Regards, Yaan ( talk) 15:04, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi,
The reason I used this form is because, according to van der Kuijp, writing in Daniels & Bright, this is what the Mongols called the script at the time. I don't know if there's still a word for it today. kwami ( talk) 18:10, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello,
I have complemented the article by listing a number of errors and msirepresentations in Weatherford's book. I trust you will respect them.
Ojevindlang ( talk) 19:19, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi Latebird I know you believe the task force is best as a branch of WikiProject Central Asia. I agree with you as until there enough people to sustain a full project and actively work at it this is best. However I strongly think you should open up to the suggestion that the Mongolian articles undergo assessment as part of WP:Central Asia. E.g {WikiProject Central Asia|Mongolia=yes|class-stub|importance=low|Mongolia-importance-mid}. This way we have an infrastructure in place on Mongolian articles and can monitor article progression but not have to even consider moving the Mongolia task force to a full project. Mongolia is one of the few countries on here which hasn't any form of individual assessment and I think it would be a major improvement to do it this way. Please let me know, thanks ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 11:05, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Could you do that? Its just I really think it is important that we take care of the articles, and assessing each Mongolian article individually. Please let me know when you have done it and the project members can be notified to help with tagging. Also I have begun adding maps to some of the articles. I'll try to get hold of a nicer looking map for Mongolia if possible though ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 10:23, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps it didn't come up at CFD, but I fear I'm still a novice with AWB and haven't figured out how to customize edit messages, and that one looked as good as any.
For the rest, I'm going to quote something that User:Blofeld of SPECTRE left on User:Ezeu's talk page last month, because he's more familiar with it all than I am:
The CFD discussion was back in 2005 when categories such as Category:Cities, towns and villages in Cyprus were created -see the edit history with the statement it was created after CFD discussion. Gradually the categories have undergone change as article content has developed. Things will only get better in regards to this trust me ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 20:34, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Beyond that, I don't know, honestly. -- User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 13:55, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Mmm its a little difficult to see on the new one. How about the one on the right? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 21:54, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello. You wrote "that's just one movie out of many, let's not start listing them all here". I took note of the fact that, without discussion, you removed the Popular Media section in the Genghis Khan article. Pity. "Mongols" is part of a film trilogy dedicated to his life. And what you said about films could be true about reference books. Cheers. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc ( talk) 16:48, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
I do understand the difference. Point was taken. Thanks and Cheers. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc ( talk) 16:26, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Latebird, this is a friendly notice to inform you of a discussion I have begun at Talk:Battle_of_Köse Dağ#Lev_Gumilev. Your significant contributions in the area of Mongolian history suggested to me that you might be able to contribute. Regards, Aramgar ( talk) 16:14, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Regarding They made well educated guesses as to the willingness of each principality to aid the others, and the level of ability of each to resist alone, and in toto. 2 things
-"and" is used 3 times in that same sentence
- the sentence is kind of choppy, maybe you could change it a different way
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Why do you keep removing our London Naadam from the Naadam page? Only London has Naadam outside Mongolia. That makes it special. Why don't you come and you will see it is special. We have musicals from Germany and family from Mongolia for the Naadam. Please stop deleting Mongolian culture. You are like chinese people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.74.23.89 ( talk) 22:53, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Dear Latebird,
Please receive these
roses.
Wish you a joyful summer.
Gantuya eng (
talk) 13:27, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
i was asking if anyone has any sources so that i could put it.im now putting it back Luke12345abcd ( talk) 13:27, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Image:Mongolia location map.svg should be used. Read this and this for example. We are now in the middle of location map standardization. If you have specific issues to the new map (borders, provinces, waterbodies etc.), just contact creator of the map. He is willing to make any ammendments, as I know him. - Darwinek ( talk) 09:53, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
If you feel that information about the word kibitka being a synonym for yurt is not relevant and has to be rolled back, please do something with the redirect of Kibitka to Yurt (cancel it or something). Though pages like this say it in fact may be a synonym. -- ssr ( talk) 12:59, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. You know I am not so good at that kind of work. -- Enerelt ( talk) 04:16, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Please refresh your cache for www.bayankhongor.com since there is relevant information about Bayankhongor there. The authors of that website are foreigners that live in Bayankhongor and speak Mongolian well. In particular, English speaking tourists can use the information to better plan their trip since there is scant information elsewhere on Bayankhongor. Fargarlicknots ( talk) 09:46, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
I saw that you cut out redundant material on the Golden Horde from the new entry for " Chingisid". I was thinking of adding quick summaries of each use of the word (principle, lineage, state, people), pointing to main articles for more detail. But I will not do that now. I am o.k. with your decision.
A question. I created this entry because it was in the list of requested articles. But when I look at the current version, it is more a dictionary definition than an encyclopedia article. Or maybe a sort of disambiguation page. I think it is valid to have an entry that points people searching for 'Chingisid' to articles that may be relevant, but is there a better format? Aymatth2 ( talk) 13:47, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi! I am sorry I didn't took the photo. It is from the website picasaweb.google.com [2]. Cheers, -- Enerelt ( talk) 01:09, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
I see. So you can reomve it. --
Enerelt (
talk) 10:11, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Hey Latebird, I notice that you keep an eye on the above articles. Przewalski's horse is a proposed article for the wikipedia 0.7 project (being put on the release CD) and if you want to eyeball it and put up a "clean" version for that project to use, go to User:SelectionBot/0.7/E-2 and pop in a permanent link to a "clean" unvandalized version. Thanks ! Montanabw (talk) 20:36, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
Hey, should I remove the references then. -- Enerelt ( talk) 07:55, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
What has being controversial got to do with it? Pawyilee ( talk) 14:10, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I assume you have heard that the Islamic calendar counts from the prophet's escape to Medina (622 AD, I think)? I don't know if that source in the article was relevant, though. It's just not necessarily from the 14th century AD. Regards, Yaan ( talk) 11:08, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Are you sure about his birth sum going by the name Gün, or is this just inferred from somewhere? Also it seems strange that the sum is named, but not the hoshuu or aimag. Or was his birthplace or his family part of some special administrative structure (like some Hutugtu's fiefdom)? Yaan ( talk) 16:15, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, really easy to replace, I'll get all my mongolian catholic friends to send me photos right away. Judgesurreal777 ( talk) 23:34, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Hello :)
you created this templates on Commons : Comons:Template:PD-Mongolia. It states that :
"The following works created in Mongolia are in the public domain in both Mongolia and the USA:
..." Is that true ? We only need it to be created in mongolia before 1972 ?-- Lilyu ( talk) 18:58, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi Latebird. It seems you're right about the Arghun letter. Thanks for the heads-up. In case you're interested, I've added some new stuff at Talk:Franco-Mongol alliance. Cheers PHG ( talk) 12:58, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Fröhliche Weihnachten. Yaan ( talk) 11:32, 25 December 2008 (UTC)