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Thanks Larry for leaving the kind words on my talk page. I will do my best to help balance out Buddhist articles as I see them. I've been spending months expanding and correcting the Pure Land related pages on WP, which had a lot of gaps and inconsistencies. Others seem to have taken up the mantle since and so things are expanding like they should for WP. ;) I also have been expanding other pages on Japanese Buddhism in general (references to Shingon Buddhism and Vairocana for example) as I have knowledge of those too. ;) Ph0kin 12:31, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Hello, I am not sure who to ask, but I made some small, but significant edits to teh D.T. Suzuki page on WP. I added some information about D.T. Suzuki's experiences with Shin (Pure Land Buddhism), including mention of his mother's Shin faith, and its influce on Suzuki. Given Suzuki's popularity, I don't want to start a flame war on WP, so I tried to keep the additions subtle, small and tried not to embellish. If you or another Buddhist editor could take a look and offer suggestions, I'd be grateful.
Thanks!
P.S. Feel free to direct me to another group or page for this kind of thing. Ph0kin 07:40, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
I need to talk to you about putting some WikiProject Buddhism tags on various articles relating to Buddhism in India. Specifically, Persecution of Buddhists, Dalit Buddhist movement, and Decline of Buddhism in India. The way these articles stand has gone on long enough. There's also Buddhism in India. I might just put these tags on myself, but I'm going to need help putting them in their proper place on the notice board. I'm also going to need help with the articles themselves. Yes, I am back.:) NinaOdell | Talk 12:54, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
hello larry, you are right, we can take away the samatha since it could be vipassana also. It could be made into "well-known types of meditation[s]". The article needs a lot more work. I just tried to make the article a bit more open, not just following Kamalashila's framework. Anapana could also be used as both (contemplating the impermanence of the breath - which is one of the last steps (number 13 I think) of the Anapanasutta).
Greetings, Sacca 13:28, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
That was a mistake, sorry about that! No I'm not against the protection, I was the one who requested it on WP:RFPP :P. Again, my apologies. ¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 23:12, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi Larry! Thank you so much for your kind words on my User Page about the images I have uploaded recently. I have no objection at all to where you moved the image I added - and I think it is more appropriate where you placed it. Thank you so much for your friendly, clear and detailed reasons for the move - they are much appreciated. Now, I think I will have a look at some of your own work - which promises at first glance to be both interesting and instructive. Cheers and all best wishes. John Hill 10:26, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Sorry I don't know anything about it. I was just trying to fix up some articles on the orphan article list. I tried to find some good information the topic but nothing I found was really made any sense, I look forward to seeing what you do. Mystic eye 01:32, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the compliment but I might not be so deserving of it. I created the article using content from this version. The main meditation article was 50 kb long so I skimmed it by moving content, creating another article and linking the new article to the old one. That's about all I did. Thanks for the kind note though. Phillip Rosenthal 20:02, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
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Namaste! I, Buddhipriya, congratulate you for your great work to create the DisplayTranslations template, which will be of value on many pages. You are fun to work with, besides. -- Buddhipriya |
Buddhipriya 19:32, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Dear Larry, thanks for the mention / acknowledgement in your edit summary on the Householders page.-- Stephen Hodge 02:18, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks Larry for pointing out the change on the Buddhism sidebar. I think you're right in that it is kind of redundant. By all means, please change anything like that. That's the beauty of Wikipedia. ;) -- Ph0kin 23:53, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes I believe you're right about Punna, I don't remember where I saw the other meaning, but it's likely that I was mistaken. All the best, -- itistoday ( Talk) 01:19, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Namaste! The recent changes on the Buddhism pages are things that I would have reverted, but I already reverted this user once today and I personally follow a one-revert rule to prevent edit wars. The changes made to the definition of samadhi are nonsense, in my opinion, and I urge you to consider reverting to the last known good version and asking him to defend his views on the talk page. It can be difficult to deal with disruptive users, as they do not respect reversion processes and are prone to begin edit wars unless several editors agree that it must be taken to the talk page. It would be enjoyable to collaborate with you again in looking at the definition of the term, and otehr issues on that article. Buddhipriya 00:52, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Larry I would value your input on this page Clinical Psychology - Eastern & Middle Eastern Influences-- Ziji 22:00, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
All understood and not a problem... ;-) Cheers, Ian Rose 13:42, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Now that I'm firmly back from my recent wikivacation, I wanted to take a moment to thank you for giving me a barnstar. I suppose it would be unseemly for me to wax too verbose in expressing my gratitude, but I should say that I've never had a barnstar before and I certainly appreciate that you were thoughtful enough to consider me. I'm not sure how prolific I'm going to find time to be on Wikipedia in the near future, but I do look forward to working with you.— Nat Krause( Talk!· What have I done?) 00:23, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Sir,
The template looks amazing and is very informative. I looked up the history of the template and thought I'd drop in and extend my best regards to you for your excellent contributions to this encyclopedia.
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Hi Larry, I agree, in my view, Nichiren in no way belongs among the major distinctions of Theravada, Mahayana and Vajrayana: it's 'just' one of the Mahayana schools. rudy 11:50, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Many thanks indeed for your excellent suggestions. Yes! I agree with all of them - if you have the time?? But please do not inconvenience yourself. I think that most people will vote NOT to include "Buddha Nature" in the template - and I would accept that (I am a democrat!). But if ever you (with your superlative skills) make a Mahayana template, we could have "Buddha Nature" right up there as one of the first items, right? What do you think, Larry? Please don't feel under any moral pressure, though, to create a Mahayana template. What you have already done is so outstandingly impressive and beautiful - I don't want to add to your workload and stress levels! Thanks again for all you do. I am enormously impressed by your love of Buddhism, your artistic template-making, and your very, very Buddhistic (i.e. metta-filled) approach to your friends and fellow editors on Wiki. It is so refreshing to have contact with you. But please, please - do not give yourself any trouble on my account. I would feel bad if you did that! Warm wishes to a real bodhisatta (I am not that yet, alas!) - from Tony. TonyMPNS 16:45, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
If I might request two or three things re. the Mahayana template (actually, I feel selfish and ungrateful in doing this!)?
1) Could we change the overall green colour to a radiant yellow or gold (yellow and gold are highly important colours in the Mahayana - indeed, a very influential sutra is called "The Sutra of GOLDEN Light"); maybe we could then use blues and greens for the rest of the design (the words)?
2) In the list of sutras, could we place the Nirvana Sutra immediately beneath (after) the Lotus Sutra (the two thematically belong together)?
3) In the list of Doctrines, could we add "Sunyata", and have the following order: "Bodhisattva, Bodhicitta, Karuna, Prajna, Sunyata, Buddha Nature, Trikaya, Eternal Buddha" ?
Again, I want to ask you NOT to give yourself any headaches over this, Larry. Please do whatever you can, in whatever time is available to you - and if you are too busy, please just leave it for another time. There is no rush. Thank you so much. The template is going from strength to strength! I hope we can get the other editors to accept it without too much alteration or deletion.
Kind regards to you. From Tony. TonyMPNS 11:53, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
As I said above, I myself like the look of the entire template now. Do you feel happy with it yourself? It would be good if we could post it on "Mahayana: Talk" and see what kind of response it elicits. But only if you feel ready to do this. It's nice to know that you enjoy doing this work. Certainly your creations bestow positive, dharmic "vibes" upon Wiki-Buddhism and we all (I am sure) feel uplifted by that. So once more - a big thank you for all your patient and hard work. Some of us here really appreciate your great input. Cordial greetings. From Tony. TonyMPNS 16:55, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your greetings, nice to hear. This year Vesak has two dates I saw, anyway, all the best, Greetings, Sacca 06:33, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
hello Larry, yes I am not one who gives up easily, especially the hinayana-branding which is an obvious attempt to incorporate Theravada as a lesser version of Mahayana... ;-) I see quite a lot of this in Wikipedia, also I regard Nikaya Buddhism as a similar attempt. In reality there was no such kind of Buddhism, the early schools were not united and on some issues got along quite badly as can be seen in the Kathavatthu. If those things cannot be removed at least it seems it has to be evened out by adding some truthful historical accounts of Mahayana and Vajrayana, too. Well, never mind, as long as things can be evenly distributed it is ok.
The following is a picture which is one of my favorites on wikipedia:
. It symbolizes the last trip that Buddha made, from Vaishali to Kusinara where he attained Total Nirvana. The pillar is standing in Vaishali, aimed at Kusinara. Also the image of the lion represents Buddha himself, as in the Buddha's Lion Roar which can be found in the Mahaparinirvana Sutra. The lions' roar is actually his last teaching before making the famous statement "Behold now, bhikkhus, I exhort you: All compounded things are subject to vanish. Strive with earnestness!". The image might have to be cropped a bit, though.
I guess Theravada template might be useful in some places, although I cannot immediately envision where that would be. But I'm quite sure there'll be some places.Greetings, Sacca 05:49, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
P.S. I had to think about one teaching of the Buddha. One Brahmin of the Bharadvaja clan came to Buddha and blasted him and insulted him. Then, Buddha asked him that when you give a gift to somebody else, and the other doesn't accept it, who's is the gift? Is it yours or does it belong to the one who refused it? The Brahmin said that it would still be considered as property of the giver. Then Buddha said that similarly, his bad speech and insults were not accepted or received by Buddha: "They are still yours, Brahmin, they are still yours!" This is an uplifting story, and reflects your opinion, and also mine and Gethin's. The hinayana label is best used in Mahayana sections. Greetings, Sacca 06:13, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
well done on the attkakathas...Greetings, Sacca 03:46, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Hallo dear Larry, Just a quick note to thank you for the superlative Mahayana template, which you have so kindly distributed across various relevant Mahayana entries on Wiki. It looks great! Thanks again! All warmest wishes to you. From Tony. TonyMPNS 22:29, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
It turns out that there are quite a few places which can use the template. I am adding them now... Greetings, Sacca 04:57, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
What about a template on Pali Canon?Greetings, Sacca 04:58, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
Yes, the 3 baskets, each devided into its main component parts, so for Suttapitaka: the five Nikayas. A bit of history like you say, and also a link to commentaries, but that one not detailed, just one link, else it would get too complicated with stuff which is outside of the Pali Canon. Nice also, to put a link to various orators.Greetings, Sacca 05:26, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I added some changes to the Theravada and Mahayana's template mainly because some of these places (i.e. Korea (NOT North Korea or South Korea though), Tibet) listed in the Mahayana template aren't exactly State Parties, I'm sure you understand why. And Taiwan (Republic of China)'s international status is also problematic. These changes are nothing political; if some users wishes to see these places as countries (or regions), the title is now "Countries & Regions", therefore it covers more ground and less POV in my opinion. The same applies to the Theravada template, if some users wants to add more places' names in the future.-- Balthazarduju 00:17, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi Larrie ! As far as I know the VM is not classed as a commentary. It is certainly not an atthakatha, which is probably why it gets deleted. Nevertheless, the VM presupposes the atthakatha and vice versa in some of the discussions.-- Stephen Hodge 23:09, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
You are welcome.-- Dakota 04:21, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for all your work on Buddhism articles, especially the Pali and Theravada aspects. May I ask you in Theravada, who are regarded as the foremost, because in the Gautama Buddha article, I added a list of the first five and then the next five, but this comes from two Mahayana Vietnamese language texts, one of which was an encyclopedia translated from Chinese commissioned by the Most Venerable Thich Quang Do. I think that Sariputta, Mahamoggallana, Mahakassapa, Ananda and Anuruddha are the five foremost in both, but if the Theravada is different, then it should be noted there. Thanks, Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 02:17, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
it is very suitable now, well done, larry!Greetings, Sacca 03:13, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
hello larry, I have been away for a while...
I am responding to your request on the pali canon, personally I think there's a bit too much free spaces there, the Pali Canon bookcases are always very well sized, no empty space can been seen if the books are all there. Also I would not have used the number of pages as a measure for the size given to the books. Then it would be easier to fill the rows evenly, and the bookcase could be made smaller than it now is. Anyway, still the template is a good template, it just misses the feeling a bit. appreciation for your work, Greetings, Sacca 04:46, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi Larry, thanks for your kind reply, It's a bit difficult for me to check this now, I am not close to a tipitaka bookcase any more... I think Vinaya one shelf, Sutta one Shelf and Abhidhamma one or two shelves (because the names are so long, or else use shorter versions of the name). Ideally, one shelf for one pitaka, if possible. thanks, Greetings, Sacca 03:42, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Also, I have some pictures of beautiful drawings of Buddhaghosa and Sanghamitta. I will upload them in a few days.Greetings, Sacca 04:02, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Here's the pictures I recently took of paintings in a sri lankan temple... You're free to nclude them in any page, off course, as you see fit. One funny thing is that you can see the legs and buttocks of Buddhaghosa through his robes ;-)
Greetings, Sacca 15:06, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
thanks Larry, for finding a nice place for these pics. Reading the section on the 2 pilgrims was good, I know a bit more about the details of the story now. Greetings, Sacca 08:28, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi, i am writing on the German-Article de:Bodhipakkhiyadhamma. Thank you for your comment on the discussion page on the german article. I have read your comment about Four Right Exertions and Four Exertions. I cant see a significant difference between those two terms - they are very strong linked to each other. E.g. the sake of the non-arising [anuppādāya] of evil, unskillful qualities that have not yet arisen is in my understanding a differnent explanation to Restraint (saṃvara padhāna) of the senses. The (german) sources I use make no specific difference between Four Right Exertions and Four Exertions. Anyway - I changed the german text - so i hope it is correct now. -- 62.47.154.101 20:03, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi Larry! Good title for your post. That dictionary is my favourite, online. I've checked and you haven't erred. In the English I know of (British or Indian), "practise" is used as a verb and "practice" for other uses. I didn't know that pains had been taken to copyedit the article. I often come across articles, with good contributions but little copyediting done. But fortunately, so was not the case.
I came to Theravada to look for "Karma," probably related to Kamma (caste) and Kammanadu. You seem to be an authority on Buddhism. Could you throw light on India's contributions, especially from Kammanadu.
Since I spotted, what I thought was a mistake, I 'corrected' it. All my actions were in good faith and not intended otherwise. Thanks a lot for the compliments about my username. Thanks for the wishes. Wishing you all the very best, Thanking You, Altruism To talk 05:48, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your reply and references. Thanks for the wishes. Wishing you all the best, Thanking You, Altruism To talk 06:52, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your thoughtful post. I intend to thoroughly expand that article. I would appreciate your help. We need to emphasize the three-pronged approach of the Noble Eightfold Path, because in my view that, anatman, and dukkha are at the core of the Buddha's message. They are mutually complimentary and all necessary. I think a sidebar would be good. If you want that second bit out of the intro per WP:LEAD then by all means, do something with it. It was just a first step. Arrow740 19:46, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
Also I was not referring to vipassana with the "insight." Arrow740 19:47, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
Hello Larry, it seems to me some of the info in Sri Dalada Maligawa should really be in Relic of the tooth of the Buddha, especially the info on the history of the tooth. I have some pictures of previous temples where the Tooth resided: two temples in Anuradhapura and three in Polonnaruwa. All these temples are in ruins, of course. Not all of them are mentioned in the article, especially I didn't see the Vatadage (?spelling?) mentioned, but in the Pollonaruwa museum it said that that was the last temple in Pollonaruwa where the tooth was kept. All the best, Greetings, Sacca 09:18, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Obviously you liked the previous puctures... here's some new ones:
Greetings, Sacca 10:13, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi Larry, would you be interested to maybe help to make a nice template on early Buddhism? Including pre-sectarian Buddhism, the 4 first buddhist councils and the various early buddhist schools? --> of these 18 schools, maybe only the 10 most important ones would be enough. Many of these schools are a bit obscure in that we don't know enough about them. Also the Pali Canon, the Agamas and the newly discovered Gandhari scriptures could be linked to.
The most important schools and councils, in (approximate) order of coming into being:
Scriptures (oldest ones first, again approximately..)
We could do it like this, in order of age. This would be recognizing the importance of the early-ness of these
schools and scriptures. What do you think? Greetings, Sacca 08:54, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Nice, simple and inspiring, no? Anyway, I am not sure to what extent I will be present in the next few weeks. You can count on me coming back though and checking in with you again on this... with metta, Greetings,
Sacca
06:42, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
hi Larry, this is the one I like most:
pre-sectarian
├ Sthaviravāda
│ ├ Pudgalavāda
│ ├ Vibhajjavāda
│ │ ├ Theravāda
│ │ └ Dharma-
│ │ guptaka
│ └ Sarvāstivāda
└ Mahāsaṃghika
Concerning the texts, it would be OK to just use the 3 parts. I'd also like a reference to the Gandharan Buddhist texts, though. Maybe just:
-Pali Canon -Agamas -Gandharan Buddhist Texts (but actually, not all of these texts are in the Pali Canon/ Agama category) - I think the british library collection is pali canon/agama category.
Maybe a link to an article on this subject can be included, too (and the article written...). thanks a lot for your work, Greetings, Sacca 03:17, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
Maybe this one would be better? Seems to work better with formatting.
pre-sectarian
Mahāsaṃghika
Sthaviravāda
├ Sarvāstivāda
└ Vibhajjavāda
├ Theravāda
└ Dharmaguptaka
Greetings, Sacca 03:19, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
You're welcome...-- Doron 14:25, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi Larry, How are you doing ? Yes, you have correctly identified these two words. I can see you have been quite busy with this article, but there is no need to limit the presentation to Theravada only. Much of this would also have been familiar to the early non-Theravadin schools and many Mahayanikas as well, hence it might be a good idea to include Sanskrit equivalents as well.
As for the Nattier reference, it is: Jan Nattier, "The Heart Sutra: A Chinese Apocryphal Text ?" Journal of the International Association of Buddhist Studies, vol 15, no 2 (1992) pp153-223. My impression is that most scholars in the field have found her arguments fairly convincing.-- Stephen Hodge 22:25, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
Hallo dear Larry. Thanks for your very nice message. As always, it is a real joy to hear from you. I think your point is very reasonable and sensible, and I shall try to do what you suggest later tonight. I hope you are well, and thanks again for all you do to make Wiki Buddhism better and better (I still think you are an exemplar of Buddhism's "gentle speech" - I wish more were like you - I certainly agree with Stephen Hodge there!). All warm wishes to you, Larry. From Tony. TonyMPNS 17:21, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your kind words, Larry. I meant to reply sooner, but I've been a bit swamped for the past couple weeks- reflected in my recent invisibility. Always appreciate your good ideas and civility. -- Clay Collier 20:34, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
the template looks nice, the contents are fine. But could we maybe make the box around the temple a bit less thick? Otherwise it's good. thanks a lot. I think it's ready for going live now..Greetings, Sacca 11:04, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi Larry,
I've been working quite a bit on the Pure Land sections and to a lesser extent the Shingon ones as well. I have expanded the Jodo Shu article quite a bit and added some much needed citations. I have also written a number of new articles recently on lesser-known Pure Land monks: Shoko, Shoku, and the Seizan branch of Buddhism. I also wrote the Mantra of Light article as well as Myoe; both are related to Shingon Buddhism.
I also wrote the article on the Seven Patriarchs of Jodo Shinshu and wrote articles for two of the patriarchs: Shan-tao and Tan-luan. I hope to write one more for Tao-cho. That would cover the seven patriarchs nicely.
Speaking of citations, I have been trying to add more of them to pre-existing texts as well. The Trikaya article is looking a little better, now that it properly references the Pali Canon, and in other random places, I have been replacing klunky citations with more Wiki-friendly ones. :)
If you have time, please don't hesitate to poke around and take a look. We Wiki-Buddhists gotta stick together. :D
Dear Larry,
I don't know much about Psychology, but I know much less than that still about Buddhism. My question really refers to Wikipedia in general. The reason I am asking you is that I see that you sign your name, and through it (your user page) I can see that you are both a learned Buddhist and that you seem to be Jewish too (Last name + category: Sabbath). No big deal up to this point, I guess. By the way, I am also Jewish in my ethnic origins. My question is this: I sign my Wikipedia contributions with a user id ( warshy 16:30, 30 August 2007 (UTC)), but in my user page I give my name and the place where I live. But after studying this Wikipedia phenomenon for some time, I see that the general usage here is for people to just use user names, and, in general, to not give any other personal information, such as a person's real name for example in the user page. I thought that the appropriate ethical behavior would have been for a person, if signing through an undescript user name or pseudonym, to give at least his or her real name in the user page. But in most of the cases I have looked into over the past few months, I see that this does not seem to be the accepted online ethos in Wikipedia. In your case, I saw you were signing your edit on someone's personal page with what looks to be a person's real name. This is what caught my attention. Why do you think the above is the Wikipedia "ethos," and, since you seem to sign with your own name, do you agree with my initial assumption that the appropriate ethical behavior in Wikipedia should be for a person to at least give his or her real name in life? Thanks for your musings on the subject. Sincerely, warshy 16:30, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Hallo dear and good Larry. Thank you so much for your very kind comments and concern, expressed on my User Page. That is so very thoughtful of you, and I appreciate it very much. Don't worry, Larry: I don't feel crowded out in the discussion of "Buddhism and Intellectualism", but I have said the main things that I feel I can contribute there. Also, I am having a bit of a battle at present with some impolite person who keeps deleting a whole section of mine from the "God in Buddhism" article! I wish other Wiki editors were as polite, urbane and reasonable as yourself, Larry! I have yet to find your equal on Wikipedia. Thank you again most sincerely for your great kindness. I respect you a lot (as does Stephen Hodge, I know!). Warm wishes to you. From Tony. TonyMPNS 16:58, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
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Thanks Larry but just to say I can't actually find the talk/side box you made sorry! please lead me to it either here or on my talk page as you prefer. many thanks kind regards Peter morrell 21:00, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks Larry I found it. It's all fine no probs. cheers Peter morrell 05:39, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
I was interested in the points you extracted from those articles I posted up. I think some of those could be usefully included where possible in the Buddhism article. I will try and return to that discussion and maybe try to improve the wording here and there in the main article. I guess that you found Zen deficient in some way and that is why you found more 'meat on the bones' in Theravada? I have flitted between Zen and Tibetan for similar reasons. Though Zen, I think, gives one an experience of meditation that is unsurpassed, yet they have frustratingly little taste for philosophy and the human soul takes comfort from at least a modicum of reasons and explanations...so I find. Anyway, thanks again for your valuable contributions. kind regards Peter morrell 06:26, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Thank you very, very much, wonderful Larry, for your most generous gifting of a Wiki star to me. That is enormously kind of you, and I appreciate it hugely. Actually, it is not myself who is an exemplar of best Wiki practice and communal interaction - it is your good self! All warm wishes and great thanks to you for being the genuine Buddhist that you are! Cordially, Tony. TonyMPNS 18:45, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for adding the chapter titles, which I hadn't got round to. However, 2 of them are mistranslated:
You also vary between singular & plural, which I haven't bothered to deal with yet. Peter jackson 10:33, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Hallo wonderful Larry! Great to hear from you, as always. Thanks so much for your help. Oh! I'll have to read the rest of the discussion on the "Buddha" article and see what I think. I'm a bit pressed for time these days ..... Sorry about that. I do hope you are well and thriving. Thank you as ever for being such a non-aggressive and kind person. Warm wishes in Dhamma to you. From your Wiki friend Tony. TonyMPNS 10:36, 10 October 2007 (UTC) 10:35, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks again. Pataligamiya is just an adjectival derivative from Pataligama, later Pataliputta/putta, now Patna. It probably refers to the inhabitants, but that needs checking. The name is given to this vagga because it includes material from the Maha Parinibbana Sutta set there.
Have you examined Hinüber's wording on angas carefully? It is true that udana was 1 of the 9 angas in early times, but does he specifically identify that with the current collection? Peter jackson 08:45, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Not very clear, is it? My guess is that H regards the 1st 3 nikayas as some sort of whole, with the divisions between them by length, & the Anguttara as separate, with the divisions within it numerical. The basis of the distinction might be that the 1st 3 tend to emphasize teaching in terms of dhammas, while the A tends to emphasize teaching in terms of persons. &/or he might regard the A as later (or earlier). Peter jackson 11:00, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your invitation but i am not so knowledgable about Buddhism. That was my argument at Gautama Buddha. People not familiar to Buddhism relate Buddha with the historical Buddha, so do many encyclopedia. I think Buddha (general) would be fine but i do not know what the other nominee Buddhahood means. Buddhahood currents redirects to Bodhi. Is Bodhi and Buddha the same???? Both the articles relate , their focusses to enlightenment and Nirvana.(both terms used in lead of the resp. articles). According to my knowledge of Sanskrit, both word originate from the same verb budha - to know. -- Redtigerxyz 11:16, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi Larry, Thanks so much for all your hard work lately. I have your list of contributions bookmarked. The Buddha disambiguation issue I started in June 2006: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Buddha#Let.E2.80.99s_replace_sectarian_views_about_Buddha_with_consensus I am worried about my nickname Dhammapal. “Dhamma” (as opposed to Dharma) could suggest a Theravada bias. I thought of changing it but I would lose my reputation of successful edits (Jimmy Wales was thinking of using editing histories to give edits credibility). I suppose that it is honest to admit that I am Theravadin and try to be a “pal” in my dealings on Wikipedia. What do you think? Thanks / Antony Dhammapal 21:45, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi Larry,
Thanks so much for your hard work rewriting my contributions to be acceptable as Encyclopedia articles. I am a benefactor of Access to Insight and will write to John Bullitt. I’m sorry you have had to clean up after me. With metta Dhammapal 20:30, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi Larry,
I just went through all my contributions and made a list of cases where I have quoted instead of re-writing. Sorry to dump this on your talk page. Is there somewhere else I can post it without getting into trouble?
Bhikkhu Bodhi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upeksa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics_in_religion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacca http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nekkhamma http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_relativism
Thanissaro Bhikkhu Paragraph beginning with “Karma really is happening…” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma_in_Buddhism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honesty#Buddhist_teachings_on_honesty http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthanasia#Dharmic_Religions
Hellmuth Hecker http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ananda
Miscellaneous http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meditation http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sangha http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_Eightfold_Path http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddha
A huge amount of work to re-write! A bit overwhelming. Maybe I should check with John Bullitt first about whether it might be OK to quote on Wikipedia.
with metta Dhammapal 21:55, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi Larry, With your permission I’ve merged our discussions and posted them to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Buddhism I’ll see you there! Dhammapal 06:01, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Larry, I have to tell you that I will not be able to contribute much or anything to Wiki in the coming months, as I am preparing to start a new phase of my life and move abroad - to Thailand. I plan to live and work out there. As you can imagine, there are numerous things for me to prepare (not least - learning the Thai language!). Anyway, good luck and much happiness to you. You really and most richly deserve the fullest happiness always! Best wishes in the Dhamma/ Dharma. Your Wiki friend, Tony. TonyMPNS ( talk) 11:58, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Nice to see the article Gautama Buddha being in a proper place, thanks to you! So thank you for your hard work in this. Also, the issue of the Buddha not being a military general was maybe not foreseen when the voting took place. Buddhahood would thus be better. Anyway, Greetings, Sacca 09:30, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Would you be willing to share your conclusions from asking others on the talk:Buddha (general) page? It seems the discussion there stalled. — Sebastian 17:15, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
The talk page seems to redirect to the main page, so I'm commenting here. My only point at present is that the article as you've drafted it is almost entirely original research, & so should not be used as a WP article. It's not for us to interpret & summarize primary sources for ourselves. Our job is to find out what scholars have said & report that. Peter jackson ( talk) 18:26, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
I quite like the translation from the canon being used on the Eightfold Path page for Right Concentration. But where does it come from? The footnote suggests it's from Bhikkhu Bodhi but there's no Bodhi reference for 1998. It's from Samyutta Nikaya 45.8, but which translation? I've noticed a lot of thrashing about on this page in recent weeks. Something's been lost.
Kind regards Morley Chalmers ( talk) 21:43, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
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Thanks Larry for leaving the kind words on my talk page. I will do my best to help balance out Buddhist articles as I see them. I've been spending months expanding and correcting the Pure Land related pages on WP, which had a lot of gaps and inconsistencies. Others seem to have taken up the mantle since and so things are expanding like they should for WP. ;) I also have been expanding other pages on Japanese Buddhism in general (references to Shingon Buddhism and Vairocana for example) as I have knowledge of those too. ;) Ph0kin 12:31, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Hello, I am not sure who to ask, but I made some small, but significant edits to teh D.T. Suzuki page on WP. I added some information about D.T. Suzuki's experiences with Shin (Pure Land Buddhism), including mention of his mother's Shin faith, and its influce on Suzuki. Given Suzuki's popularity, I don't want to start a flame war on WP, so I tried to keep the additions subtle, small and tried not to embellish. If you or another Buddhist editor could take a look and offer suggestions, I'd be grateful.
Thanks!
P.S. Feel free to direct me to another group or page for this kind of thing. Ph0kin 07:40, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
I need to talk to you about putting some WikiProject Buddhism tags on various articles relating to Buddhism in India. Specifically, Persecution of Buddhists, Dalit Buddhist movement, and Decline of Buddhism in India. The way these articles stand has gone on long enough. There's also Buddhism in India. I might just put these tags on myself, but I'm going to need help putting them in their proper place on the notice board. I'm also going to need help with the articles themselves. Yes, I am back.:) NinaOdell | Talk 12:54, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
hello larry, you are right, we can take away the samatha since it could be vipassana also. It could be made into "well-known types of meditation[s]". The article needs a lot more work. I just tried to make the article a bit more open, not just following Kamalashila's framework. Anapana could also be used as both (contemplating the impermanence of the breath - which is one of the last steps (number 13 I think) of the Anapanasutta).
Greetings, Sacca 13:28, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
That was a mistake, sorry about that! No I'm not against the protection, I was the one who requested it on WP:RFPP :P. Again, my apologies. ¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 23:12, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi Larry! Thank you so much for your kind words on my User Page about the images I have uploaded recently. I have no objection at all to where you moved the image I added - and I think it is more appropriate where you placed it. Thank you so much for your friendly, clear and detailed reasons for the move - they are much appreciated. Now, I think I will have a look at some of your own work - which promises at first glance to be both interesting and instructive. Cheers and all best wishes. John Hill 10:26, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Sorry I don't know anything about it. I was just trying to fix up some articles on the orphan article list. I tried to find some good information the topic but nothing I found was really made any sense, I look forward to seeing what you do. Mystic eye 01:32, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the compliment but I might not be so deserving of it. I created the article using content from this version. The main meditation article was 50 kb long so I skimmed it by moving content, creating another article and linking the new article to the old one. That's about all I did. Thanks for the kind note though. Phillip Rosenthal 20:02, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
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Dear Larry, thanks for the mention / acknowledgement in your edit summary on the Householders page.-- Stephen Hodge 02:18, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks Larry for pointing out the change on the Buddhism sidebar. I think you're right in that it is kind of redundant. By all means, please change anything like that. That's the beauty of Wikipedia. ;) -- Ph0kin 23:53, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes I believe you're right about Punna, I don't remember where I saw the other meaning, but it's likely that I was mistaken. All the best, -- itistoday ( Talk) 01:19, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Namaste! The recent changes on the Buddhism pages are things that I would have reverted, but I already reverted this user once today and I personally follow a one-revert rule to prevent edit wars. The changes made to the definition of samadhi are nonsense, in my opinion, and I urge you to consider reverting to the last known good version and asking him to defend his views on the talk page. It can be difficult to deal with disruptive users, as they do not respect reversion processes and are prone to begin edit wars unless several editors agree that it must be taken to the talk page. It would be enjoyable to collaborate with you again in looking at the definition of the term, and otehr issues on that article. Buddhipriya 00:52, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Larry I would value your input on this page Clinical Psychology - Eastern & Middle Eastern Influences-- Ziji 22:00, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
All understood and not a problem... ;-) Cheers, Ian Rose 13:42, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Now that I'm firmly back from my recent wikivacation, I wanted to take a moment to thank you for giving me a barnstar. I suppose it would be unseemly for me to wax too verbose in expressing my gratitude, but I should say that I've never had a barnstar before and I certainly appreciate that you were thoughtful enough to consider me. I'm not sure how prolific I'm going to find time to be on Wikipedia in the near future, but I do look forward to working with you.— Nat Krause( Talk!· What have I done?) 00:23, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Sir,
The template looks amazing and is very informative. I looked up the history of the template and thought I'd drop in and extend my best regards to you for your excellent contributions to this encyclopedia.
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Hi Larry, I agree, in my view, Nichiren in no way belongs among the major distinctions of Theravada, Mahayana and Vajrayana: it's 'just' one of the Mahayana schools. rudy 11:50, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Many thanks indeed for your excellent suggestions. Yes! I agree with all of them - if you have the time?? But please do not inconvenience yourself. I think that most people will vote NOT to include "Buddha Nature" in the template - and I would accept that (I am a democrat!). But if ever you (with your superlative skills) make a Mahayana template, we could have "Buddha Nature" right up there as one of the first items, right? What do you think, Larry? Please don't feel under any moral pressure, though, to create a Mahayana template. What you have already done is so outstandingly impressive and beautiful - I don't want to add to your workload and stress levels! Thanks again for all you do. I am enormously impressed by your love of Buddhism, your artistic template-making, and your very, very Buddhistic (i.e. metta-filled) approach to your friends and fellow editors on Wiki. It is so refreshing to have contact with you. But please, please - do not give yourself any trouble on my account. I would feel bad if you did that! Warm wishes to a real bodhisatta (I am not that yet, alas!) - from Tony. TonyMPNS 16:45, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
If I might request two or three things re. the Mahayana template (actually, I feel selfish and ungrateful in doing this!)?
1) Could we change the overall green colour to a radiant yellow or gold (yellow and gold are highly important colours in the Mahayana - indeed, a very influential sutra is called "The Sutra of GOLDEN Light"); maybe we could then use blues and greens for the rest of the design (the words)?
2) In the list of sutras, could we place the Nirvana Sutra immediately beneath (after) the Lotus Sutra (the two thematically belong together)?
3) In the list of Doctrines, could we add "Sunyata", and have the following order: "Bodhisattva, Bodhicitta, Karuna, Prajna, Sunyata, Buddha Nature, Trikaya, Eternal Buddha" ?
Again, I want to ask you NOT to give yourself any headaches over this, Larry. Please do whatever you can, in whatever time is available to you - and if you are too busy, please just leave it for another time. There is no rush. Thank you so much. The template is going from strength to strength! I hope we can get the other editors to accept it without too much alteration or deletion.
Kind regards to you. From Tony. TonyMPNS 11:53, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
As I said above, I myself like the look of the entire template now. Do you feel happy with it yourself? It would be good if we could post it on "Mahayana: Talk" and see what kind of response it elicits. But only if you feel ready to do this. It's nice to know that you enjoy doing this work. Certainly your creations bestow positive, dharmic "vibes" upon Wiki-Buddhism and we all (I am sure) feel uplifted by that. So once more - a big thank you for all your patient and hard work. Some of us here really appreciate your great input. Cordial greetings. From Tony. TonyMPNS 16:55, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your greetings, nice to hear. This year Vesak has two dates I saw, anyway, all the best, Greetings, Sacca 06:33, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
hello Larry, yes I am not one who gives up easily, especially the hinayana-branding which is an obvious attempt to incorporate Theravada as a lesser version of Mahayana... ;-) I see quite a lot of this in Wikipedia, also I regard Nikaya Buddhism as a similar attempt. In reality there was no such kind of Buddhism, the early schools were not united and on some issues got along quite badly as can be seen in the Kathavatthu. If those things cannot be removed at least it seems it has to be evened out by adding some truthful historical accounts of Mahayana and Vajrayana, too. Well, never mind, as long as things can be evenly distributed it is ok.
The following is a picture which is one of my favorites on wikipedia:
. It symbolizes the last trip that Buddha made, from Vaishali to Kusinara where he attained Total Nirvana. The pillar is standing in Vaishali, aimed at Kusinara. Also the image of the lion represents Buddha himself, as in the Buddha's Lion Roar which can be found in the Mahaparinirvana Sutra. The lions' roar is actually his last teaching before making the famous statement "Behold now, bhikkhus, I exhort you: All compounded things are subject to vanish. Strive with earnestness!". The image might have to be cropped a bit, though.
I guess Theravada template might be useful in some places, although I cannot immediately envision where that would be. But I'm quite sure there'll be some places.Greetings, Sacca 05:49, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
P.S. I had to think about one teaching of the Buddha. One Brahmin of the Bharadvaja clan came to Buddha and blasted him and insulted him. Then, Buddha asked him that when you give a gift to somebody else, and the other doesn't accept it, who's is the gift? Is it yours or does it belong to the one who refused it? The Brahmin said that it would still be considered as property of the giver. Then Buddha said that similarly, his bad speech and insults were not accepted or received by Buddha: "They are still yours, Brahmin, they are still yours!" This is an uplifting story, and reflects your opinion, and also mine and Gethin's. The hinayana label is best used in Mahayana sections. Greetings, Sacca 06:13, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
well done on the attkakathas...Greetings, Sacca 03:46, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Hallo dear Larry, Just a quick note to thank you for the superlative Mahayana template, which you have so kindly distributed across various relevant Mahayana entries on Wiki. It looks great! Thanks again! All warmest wishes to you. From Tony. TonyMPNS 22:29, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
It turns out that there are quite a few places which can use the template. I am adding them now... Greetings, Sacca 04:57, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
What about a template on Pali Canon?Greetings, Sacca 04:58, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
Yes, the 3 baskets, each devided into its main component parts, so for Suttapitaka: the five Nikayas. A bit of history like you say, and also a link to commentaries, but that one not detailed, just one link, else it would get too complicated with stuff which is outside of the Pali Canon. Nice also, to put a link to various orators.Greetings, Sacca 05:26, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I added some changes to the Theravada and Mahayana's template mainly because some of these places (i.e. Korea (NOT North Korea or South Korea though), Tibet) listed in the Mahayana template aren't exactly State Parties, I'm sure you understand why. And Taiwan (Republic of China)'s international status is also problematic. These changes are nothing political; if some users wishes to see these places as countries (or regions), the title is now "Countries & Regions", therefore it covers more ground and less POV in my opinion. The same applies to the Theravada template, if some users wants to add more places' names in the future.-- Balthazarduju 00:17, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi Larrie ! As far as I know the VM is not classed as a commentary. It is certainly not an atthakatha, which is probably why it gets deleted. Nevertheless, the VM presupposes the atthakatha and vice versa in some of the discussions.-- Stephen Hodge 23:09, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
You are welcome.-- Dakota 04:21, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for all your work on Buddhism articles, especially the Pali and Theravada aspects. May I ask you in Theravada, who are regarded as the foremost, because in the Gautama Buddha article, I added a list of the first five and then the next five, but this comes from two Mahayana Vietnamese language texts, one of which was an encyclopedia translated from Chinese commissioned by the Most Venerable Thich Quang Do. I think that Sariputta, Mahamoggallana, Mahakassapa, Ananda and Anuruddha are the five foremost in both, but if the Theravada is different, then it should be noted there. Thanks, Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 02:17, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
it is very suitable now, well done, larry!Greetings, Sacca 03:13, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
hello larry, I have been away for a while...
I am responding to your request on the pali canon, personally I think there's a bit too much free spaces there, the Pali Canon bookcases are always very well sized, no empty space can been seen if the books are all there. Also I would not have used the number of pages as a measure for the size given to the books. Then it would be easier to fill the rows evenly, and the bookcase could be made smaller than it now is. Anyway, still the template is a good template, it just misses the feeling a bit. appreciation for your work, Greetings, Sacca 04:46, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi Larry, thanks for your kind reply, It's a bit difficult for me to check this now, I am not close to a tipitaka bookcase any more... I think Vinaya one shelf, Sutta one Shelf and Abhidhamma one or two shelves (because the names are so long, or else use shorter versions of the name). Ideally, one shelf for one pitaka, if possible. thanks, Greetings, Sacca 03:42, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Also, I have some pictures of beautiful drawings of Buddhaghosa and Sanghamitta. I will upload them in a few days.Greetings, Sacca 04:02, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Here's the pictures I recently took of paintings in a sri lankan temple... You're free to nclude them in any page, off course, as you see fit. One funny thing is that you can see the legs and buttocks of Buddhaghosa through his robes ;-)
Greetings, Sacca 15:06, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
thanks Larry, for finding a nice place for these pics. Reading the section on the 2 pilgrims was good, I know a bit more about the details of the story now. Greetings, Sacca 08:28, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi, i am writing on the German-Article de:Bodhipakkhiyadhamma. Thank you for your comment on the discussion page on the german article. I have read your comment about Four Right Exertions and Four Exertions. I cant see a significant difference between those two terms - they are very strong linked to each other. E.g. the sake of the non-arising [anuppādāya] of evil, unskillful qualities that have not yet arisen is in my understanding a differnent explanation to Restraint (saṃvara padhāna) of the senses. The (german) sources I use make no specific difference between Four Right Exertions and Four Exertions. Anyway - I changed the german text - so i hope it is correct now. -- 62.47.154.101 20:03, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi Larry! Good title for your post. That dictionary is my favourite, online. I've checked and you haven't erred. In the English I know of (British or Indian), "practise" is used as a verb and "practice" for other uses. I didn't know that pains had been taken to copyedit the article. I often come across articles, with good contributions but little copyediting done. But fortunately, so was not the case.
I came to Theravada to look for "Karma," probably related to Kamma (caste) and Kammanadu. You seem to be an authority on Buddhism. Could you throw light on India's contributions, especially from Kammanadu.
Since I spotted, what I thought was a mistake, I 'corrected' it. All my actions were in good faith and not intended otherwise. Thanks a lot for the compliments about my username. Thanks for the wishes. Wishing you all the very best, Thanking You, Altruism To talk 05:48, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your reply and references. Thanks for the wishes. Wishing you all the best, Thanking You, Altruism To talk 06:52, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your thoughtful post. I intend to thoroughly expand that article. I would appreciate your help. We need to emphasize the three-pronged approach of the Noble Eightfold Path, because in my view that, anatman, and dukkha are at the core of the Buddha's message. They are mutually complimentary and all necessary. I think a sidebar would be good. If you want that second bit out of the intro per WP:LEAD then by all means, do something with it. It was just a first step. Arrow740 19:46, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
Also I was not referring to vipassana with the "insight." Arrow740 19:47, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
Hello Larry, it seems to me some of the info in Sri Dalada Maligawa should really be in Relic of the tooth of the Buddha, especially the info on the history of the tooth. I have some pictures of previous temples where the Tooth resided: two temples in Anuradhapura and three in Polonnaruwa. All these temples are in ruins, of course. Not all of them are mentioned in the article, especially I didn't see the Vatadage (?spelling?) mentioned, but in the Pollonaruwa museum it said that that was the last temple in Pollonaruwa where the tooth was kept. All the best, Greetings, Sacca 09:18, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Obviously you liked the previous puctures... here's some new ones:
Greetings, Sacca 10:13, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi Larry, would you be interested to maybe help to make a nice template on early Buddhism? Including pre-sectarian Buddhism, the 4 first buddhist councils and the various early buddhist schools? --> of these 18 schools, maybe only the 10 most important ones would be enough. Many of these schools are a bit obscure in that we don't know enough about them. Also the Pali Canon, the Agamas and the newly discovered Gandhari scriptures could be linked to.
The most important schools and councils, in (approximate) order of coming into being:
Scriptures (oldest ones first, again approximately..)
We could do it like this, in order of age. This would be recognizing the importance of the early-ness of these
schools and scriptures. What do you think? Greetings, Sacca 08:54, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Nice, simple and inspiring, no? Anyway, I am not sure to what extent I will be present in the next few weeks. You can count on me coming back though and checking in with you again on this... with metta, Greetings,
Sacca
06:42, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
hi Larry, this is the one I like most:
pre-sectarian
├ Sthaviravāda
│ ├ Pudgalavāda
│ ├ Vibhajjavāda
│ │ ├ Theravāda
│ │ └ Dharma-
│ │ guptaka
│ └ Sarvāstivāda
└ Mahāsaṃghika
Concerning the texts, it would be OK to just use the 3 parts. I'd also like a reference to the Gandharan Buddhist texts, though. Maybe just:
-Pali Canon -Agamas -Gandharan Buddhist Texts (but actually, not all of these texts are in the Pali Canon/ Agama category) - I think the british library collection is pali canon/agama category.
Maybe a link to an article on this subject can be included, too (and the article written...). thanks a lot for your work, Greetings, Sacca 03:17, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
Maybe this one would be better? Seems to work better with formatting.
pre-sectarian
Mahāsaṃghika
Sthaviravāda
├ Sarvāstivāda
└ Vibhajjavāda
├ Theravāda
└ Dharmaguptaka
Greetings, Sacca 03:19, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
You're welcome...-- Doron 14:25, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi Larry, How are you doing ? Yes, you have correctly identified these two words. I can see you have been quite busy with this article, but there is no need to limit the presentation to Theravada only. Much of this would also have been familiar to the early non-Theravadin schools and many Mahayanikas as well, hence it might be a good idea to include Sanskrit equivalents as well.
As for the Nattier reference, it is: Jan Nattier, "The Heart Sutra: A Chinese Apocryphal Text ?" Journal of the International Association of Buddhist Studies, vol 15, no 2 (1992) pp153-223. My impression is that most scholars in the field have found her arguments fairly convincing.-- Stephen Hodge 22:25, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
Hallo dear Larry. Thanks for your very nice message. As always, it is a real joy to hear from you. I think your point is very reasonable and sensible, and I shall try to do what you suggest later tonight. I hope you are well, and thanks again for all you do to make Wiki Buddhism better and better (I still think you are an exemplar of Buddhism's "gentle speech" - I wish more were like you - I certainly agree with Stephen Hodge there!). All warm wishes to you, Larry. From Tony. TonyMPNS 17:21, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your kind words, Larry. I meant to reply sooner, but I've been a bit swamped for the past couple weeks- reflected in my recent invisibility. Always appreciate your good ideas and civility. -- Clay Collier 20:34, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
the template looks nice, the contents are fine. But could we maybe make the box around the temple a bit less thick? Otherwise it's good. thanks a lot. I think it's ready for going live now..Greetings, Sacca 11:04, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi Larry,
I've been working quite a bit on the Pure Land sections and to a lesser extent the Shingon ones as well. I have expanded the Jodo Shu article quite a bit and added some much needed citations. I have also written a number of new articles recently on lesser-known Pure Land monks: Shoko, Shoku, and the Seizan branch of Buddhism. I also wrote the Mantra of Light article as well as Myoe; both are related to Shingon Buddhism.
I also wrote the article on the Seven Patriarchs of Jodo Shinshu and wrote articles for two of the patriarchs: Shan-tao and Tan-luan. I hope to write one more for Tao-cho. That would cover the seven patriarchs nicely.
Speaking of citations, I have been trying to add more of them to pre-existing texts as well. The Trikaya article is looking a little better, now that it properly references the Pali Canon, and in other random places, I have been replacing klunky citations with more Wiki-friendly ones. :)
If you have time, please don't hesitate to poke around and take a look. We Wiki-Buddhists gotta stick together. :D
Dear Larry,
I don't know much about Psychology, but I know much less than that still about Buddhism. My question really refers to Wikipedia in general. The reason I am asking you is that I see that you sign your name, and through it (your user page) I can see that you are both a learned Buddhist and that you seem to be Jewish too (Last name + category: Sabbath). No big deal up to this point, I guess. By the way, I am also Jewish in my ethnic origins. My question is this: I sign my Wikipedia contributions with a user id ( warshy 16:30, 30 August 2007 (UTC)), but in my user page I give my name and the place where I live. But after studying this Wikipedia phenomenon for some time, I see that the general usage here is for people to just use user names, and, in general, to not give any other personal information, such as a person's real name for example in the user page. I thought that the appropriate ethical behavior would have been for a person, if signing through an undescript user name or pseudonym, to give at least his or her real name in the user page. But in most of the cases I have looked into over the past few months, I see that this does not seem to be the accepted online ethos in Wikipedia. In your case, I saw you were signing your edit on someone's personal page with what looks to be a person's real name. This is what caught my attention. Why do you think the above is the Wikipedia "ethos," and, since you seem to sign with your own name, do you agree with my initial assumption that the appropriate ethical behavior in Wikipedia should be for a person to at least give his or her real name in life? Thanks for your musings on the subject. Sincerely, warshy 16:30, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Hallo dear and good Larry. Thank you so much for your very kind comments and concern, expressed on my User Page. That is so very thoughtful of you, and I appreciate it very much. Don't worry, Larry: I don't feel crowded out in the discussion of "Buddhism and Intellectualism", but I have said the main things that I feel I can contribute there. Also, I am having a bit of a battle at present with some impolite person who keeps deleting a whole section of mine from the "God in Buddhism" article! I wish other Wiki editors were as polite, urbane and reasonable as yourself, Larry! I have yet to find your equal on Wikipedia. Thank you again most sincerely for your great kindness. I respect you a lot (as does Stephen Hodge, I know!). Warm wishes to you. From Tony. TonyMPNS 16:58, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
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Thanks Larry but just to say I can't actually find the talk/side box you made sorry! please lead me to it either here or on my talk page as you prefer. many thanks kind regards Peter morrell 21:00, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks Larry I found it. It's all fine no probs. cheers Peter morrell 05:39, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
I was interested in the points you extracted from those articles I posted up. I think some of those could be usefully included where possible in the Buddhism article. I will try and return to that discussion and maybe try to improve the wording here and there in the main article. I guess that you found Zen deficient in some way and that is why you found more 'meat on the bones' in Theravada? I have flitted between Zen and Tibetan for similar reasons. Though Zen, I think, gives one an experience of meditation that is unsurpassed, yet they have frustratingly little taste for philosophy and the human soul takes comfort from at least a modicum of reasons and explanations...so I find. Anyway, thanks again for your valuable contributions. kind regards Peter morrell 06:26, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Thank you very, very much, wonderful Larry, for your most generous gifting of a Wiki star to me. That is enormously kind of you, and I appreciate it hugely. Actually, it is not myself who is an exemplar of best Wiki practice and communal interaction - it is your good self! All warm wishes and great thanks to you for being the genuine Buddhist that you are! Cordially, Tony. TonyMPNS 18:45, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for adding the chapter titles, which I hadn't got round to. However, 2 of them are mistranslated:
You also vary between singular & plural, which I haven't bothered to deal with yet. Peter jackson 10:33, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Hallo wonderful Larry! Great to hear from you, as always. Thanks so much for your help. Oh! I'll have to read the rest of the discussion on the "Buddha" article and see what I think. I'm a bit pressed for time these days ..... Sorry about that. I do hope you are well and thriving. Thank you as ever for being such a non-aggressive and kind person. Warm wishes in Dhamma to you. From your Wiki friend Tony. TonyMPNS 10:36, 10 October 2007 (UTC) 10:35, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks again. Pataligamiya is just an adjectival derivative from Pataligama, later Pataliputta/putta, now Patna. It probably refers to the inhabitants, but that needs checking. The name is given to this vagga because it includes material from the Maha Parinibbana Sutta set there.
Have you examined Hinüber's wording on angas carefully? It is true that udana was 1 of the 9 angas in early times, but does he specifically identify that with the current collection? Peter jackson 08:45, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Not very clear, is it? My guess is that H regards the 1st 3 nikayas as some sort of whole, with the divisions between them by length, & the Anguttara as separate, with the divisions within it numerical. The basis of the distinction might be that the 1st 3 tend to emphasize teaching in terms of dhammas, while the A tends to emphasize teaching in terms of persons. &/or he might regard the A as later (or earlier). Peter jackson 11:00, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your invitation but i am not so knowledgable about Buddhism. That was my argument at Gautama Buddha. People not familiar to Buddhism relate Buddha with the historical Buddha, so do many encyclopedia. I think Buddha (general) would be fine but i do not know what the other nominee Buddhahood means. Buddhahood currents redirects to Bodhi. Is Bodhi and Buddha the same???? Both the articles relate , their focusses to enlightenment and Nirvana.(both terms used in lead of the resp. articles). According to my knowledge of Sanskrit, both word originate from the same verb budha - to know. -- Redtigerxyz 11:16, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi Larry, Thanks so much for all your hard work lately. I have your list of contributions bookmarked. The Buddha disambiguation issue I started in June 2006: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Buddha#Let.E2.80.99s_replace_sectarian_views_about_Buddha_with_consensus I am worried about my nickname Dhammapal. “Dhamma” (as opposed to Dharma) could suggest a Theravada bias. I thought of changing it but I would lose my reputation of successful edits (Jimmy Wales was thinking of using editing histories to give edits credibility). I suppose that it is honest to admit that I am Theravadin and try to be a “pal” in my dealings on Wikipedia. What do you think? Thanks / Antony Dhammapal 21:45, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi Larry,
Thanks so much for your hard work rewriting my contributions to be acceptable as Encyclopedia articles. I am a benefactor of Access to Insight and will write to John Bullitt. I’m sorry you have had to clean up after me. With metta Dhammapal 20:30, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi Larry,
I just went through all my contributions and made a list of cases where I have quoted instead of re-writing. Sorry to dump this on your talk page. Is there somewhere else I can post it without getting into trouble?
Bhikkhu Bodhi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upeksa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics_in_religion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacca http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nekkhamma http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_relativism
Thanissaro Bhikkhu Paragraph beginning with “Karma really is happening…” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma_in_Buddhism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honesty#Buddhist_teachings_on_honesty http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthanasia#Dharmic_Religions
Hellmuth Hecker http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ananda
Miscellaneous http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meditation http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sangha http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_Eightfold_Path http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddha
A huge amount of work to re-write! A bit overwhelming. Maybe I should check with John Bullitt first about whether it might be OK to quote on Wikipedia.
with metta Dhammapal 21:55, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi Larry, With your permission I’ve merged our discussions and posted them to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Buddhism I’ll see you there! Dhammapal 06:01, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Larry, I have to tell you that I will not be able to contribute much or anything to Wiki in the coming months, as I am preparing to start a new phase of my life and move abroad - to Thailand. I plan to live and work out there. As you can imagine, there are numerous things for me to prepare (not least - learning the Thai language!). Anyway, good luck and much happiness to you. You really and most richly deserve the fullest happiness always! Best wishes in the Dhamma/ Dharma. Your Wiki friend, Tony. TonyMPNS ( talk) 11:58, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Nice to see the article Gautama Buddha being in a proper place, thanks to you! So thank you for your hard work in this. Also, the issue of the Buddha not being a military general was maybe not foreseen when the voting took place. Buddhahood would thus be better. Anyway, Greetings, Sacca 09:30, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Would you be willing to share your conclusions from asking others on the talk:Buddha (general) page? It seems the discussion there stalled. — Sebastian 17:15, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
The talk page seems to redirect to the main page, so I'm commenting here. My only point at present is that the article as you've drafted it is almost entirely original research, & so should not be used as a WP article. It's not for us to interpret & summarize primary sources for ourselves. Our job is to find out what scholars have said & report that. Peter jackson ( talk) 18:26, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
I quite like the translation from the canon being used on the Eightfold Path page for Right Concentration. But where does it come from? The footnote suggests it's from Bhikkhu Bodhi but there's no Bodhi reference for 1998. It's from Samyutta Nikaya 45.8, but which translation? I've noticed a lot of thrashing about on this page in recent weeks. Something's been lost.
Kind regards Morley Chalmers ( talk) 21:43, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
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