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I rewrote the Stefan Zucker entry. Have you ever heard him sing? Hilarious! By the way, I disagree with your response to the guys who suggested adding info re rock opera to the opera pages. See the talk page. I really think you should re-think that. -- Ssilvers 16:13, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
With the removal of the questionable 1992 TV film reference, I think that the facts on the Motezuma aerticle are now substantially correct, so a disclaimer doesn't seem to be necessary.
I shall try to find an account of the Dusseldorf performances. Vivaverdi 12:15, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
I'd not heard of it either, but shall add it to the Opera Festivals page and do some research for an article - unless you'd prefer to do (with your Scottish connectin 'n all.......). Karyl Charna Lynn's "Italian Opera Houses and Festivals" has one page on it. Vivaverdi 12:27, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I've seen you write in the vocal range talk page. are there samples of the georgia brown' record??? or sounds in the 9th octave? is she a soprano?
You're right, I just thought we were doing English titles, when translatable, but perhaps I was mistaken, in which case I'm happy to fix it up, just give me a shout. Mak (talk) 21:49, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
Today i did 3 entries: Galina Sergeeva, Alexander Ablesimov & Isaak Dunayevsky ( Meladina 00:47, 1 June 2006 (UTC))
Melodeclamation = short concert piece, a kind of melodrama = a reading with music accompaniment. (I've just create this entry)
I added the following paragraph, could you check please?
"There is an interesting fact: after Dunayevsky’s death it was found in his archive the opera libretto “Rashel” (1943) by Mikhail Bulgakov, previously totally unknown. The libretto was based on Guy de Maupassant’s Mademoiselle Fifi. Published in a book by Naum Shafer (see references and links below)."
Probably it can be placed in "Do you know..."? ( Meladina 08:24, 1 June 2006 (UTC))
I found a reference: reference
"a music technique, "melodeclamation," a type of rhythmic vocal writing that bears a resemblance to Sprechstimme."
( Meladina 08:28, 1 June 2006 (UTC))
Where can I find the text of yout definition of opera? ( Meladina 09:15, 1 June 2006 (UTC))
We will not decide - the time will show who is right. ( Meladina 09:49, 1 June 2006 (UTC))
Opera librettist Mikhail Popov ( Meladina 13:38, 1 June 2006 (UTC))
I’ve just created an article Philharmonic Academy of Bologna, but then I have found the stub Accademia Filarmonica of Bologna. I think it is necessary to merge them or to eliminate the stub. Please, help. ( Meladina 16:36, 1 June 2006 (UTC))
#REDIRECT Philharmonic Academy of Bologna
You corrected my text, changing the order "with it" into "it with": "He also worked on Slavic mythology with an idea to replace it with Greek and Roman."
Sorry for my English, but I wanted to say something different. The idea of Popov was patriotic and completely opposite: to replace Greek and Roman" popular in Russia of that time, with Slavic mythology, that had to be reinvented because was practically unknown in Russia.( Meladina 16:48, 1 June 2006 (UTC))
Did you noticed Russian opera of the 18th century at the front page of Wikipedia? ( Meladina 11:11, 2 June 2006 (UTC))
Karl Kniper Theatre added today ( Meladina 19:25, 2 June 2006 (UTC))
So, following your advice, I merged two articles in one. I also created a subpage with Russian opera articles Now we have to eliminate Russian opera in the 18th century. Please, help. ( Meladina 12:21, 3 June 2006 (UTC))
I've just received a message:
How are you? Yesterday I've been to the concert at Barbican. Coming to the concert, I saw the wooden sculpture dedicated to the composer Felix Mendelsohn Bartoldi vandalised - it was knocked down and some fragments were brocken into pieces. It was a 500 year old birch tree and it was said Mendelsohn liked to sit near composing his music. This is why, I think, the question of nationality is still very delicate one, when we have to define it at the pages of Wikipedia. By the way, Dunayevsky also was a Jew. Your ( Meladina 23:32, 4 June 2006 (UTC))
I've expanded this from a very short stub: Vladimir Rebikoff ( Meladina 23:46, 4 June 2006 (UTC))
It seems to me that I have completed Russian opera. It needs your assistance. Yours ( Meladina 07:57, 5 June 2006 (UTC))
There are two identical articles: Vladimir Rebikov and Vladimir Rebikoff. I tried to eliminate Vladimir Rebikoff with making redirect to Vladimir Rebikov, but it seems that the link is corrupted and I had no success. The problem is just that if we make corrections in one article, we have to copy them into another, which is awkward. Sorry, ( Meladina 09:42, 5 June 2006 (UTC))
I've receivead a message that Russian opera article is 41kb long. The size has to be no more than 32kb. I will think what to do, but would be grateful to you for for an advise. ( Meladina 14:29, 5 June 2006 (UTC))
Dear S, Thank you for the template, which I tried to create myself without knowledge how to do this. I also tried to do another logo for the composer biography pages:
I suggest to use a logo at the end of the articles of this project:
This
Composer article is part of the
Composers Project
---
but was suddenly stopped by the warning: ** Absolutely not. It is Wikipedia policy to avoid links to project pages from the article namespace. --
RobertG ♬
talk
12:11, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Another suggestion came today:
Hello, I think you should put notices that "the article is part of Russian opera project" on the articles' talk pages rather than in main space. It is common practice with other projects. Check any battle article, for instance. -- Ghirla -трёп- 14:57, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
So, I understood, I can place your template only at the discussion pages. This is not too bad. I like the idea these logos – they make the page not so boring, give the visual orientation, right address and invite people to participate. Your template is lovely, and I would like to have similar for the composers' pages as well. Yours ( Meladina 20:58, 5 June 2006 (UTC))
Every time when I try to edit any page, there message appears: "Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. Please try again. If it still doesn't work, try logging out and logging back in." I just wonder what does it mean? ( meladina 23:35, 6 June 2006 (UTC))
Did you sent me the DVD? I did not receive yet. (I tried to get Alfaville in London today with no success.) ( meladina 23:27, 7 June 2006 (UTC))
Yesterday I've been to Barbican on the opera by Thomac Ades "Powder Her Face" (a concert performance by LSO with the composer as a conductor). Witty stuff (a sort of contemporary "Lulu"). ( meladina 16:22, 9 June 2006 (UTC))
Sergei Slonimsky - a new entry ( meladina 10:59, 11 June 2006 (UTC))
I have put my answer on Talk:Opera buffa. ( meladina 10:54, 11 June 2006 (UTC))
Here is a new entry: Mikhail Matinsky. I created three more composers' biographies, but two of them are not about the opera composers, and therefore I am not sure that you want to look at them. They need editing and I put my note on Composers' project talk page. Of course, I have no reply, so you are right, it looks as a Ghosts' Town. Thank you very much for DVD. ( meladina 07:49, 14 June 2006 (UTC))
Thanks for your message on my user page. Actually, I didn't create the category, but once I saw that someone had started it, I went the rest of the way.
I didn't realize there was an Operas by Joe Smith hierarchy, but the Gilbert & Sullivan category is a bit different. What's categorized there is not just their joint works, but also a lot of related subjects — other artists whom they worked with; theatres associated with their works; operas they wrote with other collaborators; well known G&S performers; and so forth. Marc Shepherd 16:49, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Hey Kleinzach. I see you've got a page on early singers. The Grove articles tend to be very stubby, and I've been working on a few, especially those connected with Concerto delle donne and that period in Italy, so I was just wondering if you knew of a good source for these. Also, it's pretty funny, but Grove doesn't have a separate article on La liberazione di Ruggiero, isn't that odd? Do you think it should have the full title as the title of the article? I think this is the standard shortening. Thanks, Mak (talk) 16:44, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
Have you read any English-language newspapers in Japan (e.g. of Japanese companies, e.g. Mainichi Shimbun)? If so, you notice that they almost exclusively use Western order. Here's an example: [2] WhisperToMe 00:28, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Yakov Knyazhnin - a new entry. Thanks for your vote and your message. ( meladina 13:03, 15 June 2006 (UTC))
I tried to move it again, but was refused. We can just to eliminate the article Yakov Borisovich Knyazhnin. Please help. ( meladina 15:57, 15 June 2006 (UTC))
I created two enties Semyon Gulak-Artemovsky (this was developed from a stub) & Zaporozhets za Dunayem, however not sure about the spelling of the titles . Could you check, please with Grove? Yours, ( meladina 18:36, 17 June 2006 (UTC))
No problem at all. I've already done a couple that he left on the Composer's Project page, so I'm used to the oddities that crop up. One example that had me chuckling was a list of subordinate clauses split up with commas followed by verbs with no personal pronouns; which was a great idea but currently doesn't exist in English as yet. Cheers, Moreschi 13:58, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Are you saying that you consider Der Freishütz part of the popular repertory? - Nunh-huh 17:37, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
I've re-read the second sentence, and it still looks all right to me. Where do you propose that the word "not" should be moved to? -- GuillaumeTell 21:41, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
[3] It would be lovely if in instances like the one in this link you could create a redirect. The far right button in the editing screen gives the right way to link it, and you just create the page which has the "wrong" name and link it to the "right" name. It helps people find pages, and makes it less likely that duplicate articles will be created. It's a dull bit of housekeeping, but it can be really useful. Sorry I haven't been doing quite as much on the Opera pages, but I've lost my Grove subscription, and since I'm not at university any more it's harder to get to the library. Cheers, Mak (talk) 15:40, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
This is a Wikipedia
user talk page. This is not an encyclopedia article or the talk page for an encyclopedia article. If you find this page on any site other than Wikipedia, you are viewing a mirror site. Be aware that the page may be outdated and that the user in whose space this page is located may have no personal affiliation with any site other than Wikipedia. The original talk page is located at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kleinzach/Archive_4. |
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 | Archive 4 | Archive 5 | Archive 6 | → | Archive 10 |
I rewrote the Stefan Zucker entry. Have you ever heard him sing? Hilarious! By the way, I disagree with your response to the guys who suggested adding info re rock opera to the opera pages. See the talk page. I really think you should re-think that. -- Ssilvers 16:13, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
With the removal of the questionable 1992 TV film reference, I think that the facts on the Motezuma aerticle are now substantially correct, so a disclaimer doesn't seem to be necessary.
I shall try to find an account of the Dusseldorf performances. Vivaverdi 12:15, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
I'd not heard of it either, but shall add it to the Opera Festivals page and do some research for an article - unless you'd prefer to do (with your Scottish connectin 'n all.......). Karyl Charna Lynn's "Italian Opera Houses and Festivals" has one page on it. Vivaverdi 12:27, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I've seen you write in the vocal range talk page. are there samples of the georgia brown' record??? or sounds in the 9th octave? is she a soprano?
You're right, I just thought we were doing English titles, when translatable, but perhaps I was mistaken, in which case I'm happy to fix it up, just give me a shout. Mak (talk) 21:49, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
Today i did 3 entries: Galina Sergeeva, Alexander Ablesimov & Isaak Dunayevsky ( Meladina 00:47, 1 June 2006 (UTC))
Melodeclamation = short concert piece, a kind of melodrama = a reading with music accompaniment. (I've just create this entry)
I added the following paragraph, could you check please?
"There is an interesting fact: after Dunayevsky’s death it was found in his archive the opera libretto “Rashel” (1943) by Mikhail Bulgakov, previously totally unknown. The libretto was based on Guy de Maupassant’s Mademoiselle Fifi. Published in a book by Naum Shafer (see references and links below)."
Probably it can be placed in "Do you know..."? ( Meladina 08:24, 1 June 2006 (UTC))
I found a reference: reference
"a music technique, "melodeclamation," a type of rhythmic vocal writing that bears a resemblance to Sprechstimme."
( Meladina 08:28, 1 June 2006 (UTC))
Where can I find the text of yout definition of opera? ( Meladina 09:15, 1 June 2006 (UTC))
We will not decide - the time will show who is right. ( Meladina 09:49, 1 June 2006 (UTC))
Opera librettist Mikhail Popov ( Meladina 13:38, 1 June 2006 (UTC))
I’ve just created an article Philharmonic Academy of Bologna, but then I have found the stub Accademia Filarmonica of Bologna. I think it is necessary to merge them or to eliminate the stub. Please, help. ( Meladina 16:36, 1 June 2006 (UTC))
#REDIRECT Philharmonic Academy of Bologna
You corrected my text, changing the order "with it" into "it with": "He also worked on Slavic mythology with an idea to replace it with Greek and Roman."
Sorry for my English, but I wanted to say something different. The idea of Popov was patriotic and completely opposite: to replace Greek and Roman" popular in Russia of that time, with Slavic mythology, that had to be reinvented because was practically unknown in Russia.( Meladina 16:48, 1 June 2006 (UTC))
Did you noticed Russian opera of the 18th century at the front page of Wikipedia? ( Meladina 11:11, 2 June 2006 (UTC))
Karl Kniper Theatre added today ( Meladina 19:25, 2 June 2006 (UTC))
So, following your advice, I merged two articles in one. I also created a subpage with Russian opera articles Now we have to eliminate Russian opera in the 18th century. Please, help. ( Meladina 12:21, 3 June 2006 (UTC))
I've just received a message:
How are you? Yesterday I've been to the concert at Barbican. Coming to the concert, I saw the wooden sculpture dedicated to the composer Felix Mendelsohn Bartoldi vandalised - it was knocked down and some fragments were brocken into pieces. It was a 500 year old birch tree and it was said Mendelsohn liked to sit near composing his music. This is why, I think, the question of nationality is still very delicate one, when we have to define it at the pages of Wikipedia. By the way, Dunayevsky also was a Jew. Your ( Meladina 23:32, 4 June 2006 (UTC))
I've expanded this from a very short stub: Vladimir Rebikoff ( Meladina 23:46, 4 June 2006 (UTC))
It seems to me that I have completed Russian opera. It needs your assistance. Yours ( Meladina 07:57, 5 June 2006 (UTC))
There are two identical articles: Vladimir Rebikov and Vladimir Rebikoff. I tried to eliminate Vladimir Rebikoff with making redirect to Vladimir Rebikov, but it seems that the link is corrupted and I had no success. The problem is just that if we make corrections in one article, we have to copy them into another, which is awkward. Sorry, ( Meladina 09:42, 5 June 2006 (UTC))
I've receivead a message that Russian opera article is 41kb long. The size has to be no more than 32kb. I will think what to do, but would be grateful to you for for an advise. ( Meladina 14:29, 5 June 2006 (UTC))
Dear S, Thank you for the template, which I tried to create myself without knowledge how to do this. I also tried to do another logo for the composer biography pages:
I suggest to use a logo at the end of the articles of this project:
This
Composer article is part of the
Composers Project
---
but was suddenly stopped by the warning: ** Absolutely not. It is Wikipedia policy to avoid links to project pages from the article namespace. --
RobertG ♬
talk
12:11, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Another suggestion came today:
Hello, I think you should put notices that "the article is part of Russian opera project" on the articles' talk pages rather than in main space. It is common practice with other projects. Check any battle article, for instance. -- Ghirla -трёп- 14:57, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
So, I understood, I can place your template only at the discussion pages. This is not too bad. I like the idea these logos – they make the page not so boring, give the visual orientation, right address and invite people to participate. Your template is lovely, and I would like to have similar for the composers' pages as well. Yours ( Meladina 20:58, 5 June 2006 (UTC))
Every time when I try to edit any page, there message appears: "Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. Please try again. If it still doesn't work, try logging out and logging back in." I just wonder what does it mean? ( meladina 23:35, 6 June 2006 (UTC))
Did you sent me the DVD? I did not receive yet. (I tried to get Alfaville in London today with no success.) ( meladina 23:27, 7 June 2006 (UTC))
Yesterday I've been to Barbican on the opera by Thomac Ades "Powder Her Face" (a concert performance by LSO with the composer as a conductor). Witty stuff (a sort of contemporary "Lulu"). ( meladina 16:22, 9 June 2006 (UTC))
Sergei Slonimsky - a new entry ( meladina 10:59, 11 June 2006 (UTC))
I have put my answer on Talk:Opera buffa. ( meladina 10:54, 11 June 2006 (UTC))
Here is a new entry: Mikhail Matinsky. I created three more composers' biographies, but two of them are not about the opera composers, and therefore I am not sure that you want to look at them. They need editing and I put my note on Composers' project talk page. Of course, I have no reply, so you are right, it looks as a Ghosts' Town. Thank you very much for DVD. ( meladina 07:49, 14 June 2006 (UTC))
Thanks for your message on my user page. Actually, I didn't create the category, but once I saw that someone had started it, I went the rest of the way.
I didn't realize there was an Operas by Joe Smith hierarchy, but the Gilbert & Sullivan category is a bit different. What's categorized there is not just their joint works, but also a lot of related subjects — other artists whom they worked with; theatres associated with their works; operas they wrote with other collaborators; well known G&S performers; and so forth. Marc Shepherd 16:49, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Hey Kleinzach. I see you've got a page on early singers. The Grove articles tend to be very stubby, and I've been working on a few, especially those connected with Concerto delle donne and that period in Italy, so I was just wondering if you knew of a good source for these. Also, it's pretty funny, but Grove doesn't have a separate article on La liberazione di Ruggiero, isn't that odd? Do you think it should have the full title as the title of the article? I think this is the standard shortening. Thanks, Mak (talk) 16:44, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
Have you read any English-language newspapers in Japan (e.g. of Japanese companies, e.g. Mainichi Shimbun)? If so, you notice that they almost exclusively use Western order. Here's an example: [2] WhisperToMe 00:28, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Yakov Knyazhnin - a new entry. Thanks for your vote and your message. ( meladina 13:03, 15 June 2006 (UTC))
I tried to move it again, but was refused. We can just to eliminate the article Yakov Borisovich Knyazhnin. Please help. ( meladina 15:57, 15 June 2006 (UTC))
I created two enties Semyon Gulak-Artemovsky (this was developed from a stub) & Zaporozhets za Dunayem, however not sure about the spelling of the titles . Could you check, please with Grove? Yours, ( meladina 18:36, 17 June 2006 (UTC))
No problem at all. I've already done a couple that he left on the Composer's Project page, so I'm used to the oddities that crop up. One example that had me chuckling was a list of subordinate clauses split up with commas followed by verbs with no personal pronouns; which was a great idea but currently doesn't exist in English as yet. Cheers, Moreschi 13:58, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Are you saying that you consider Der Freishütz part of the popular repertory? - Nunh-huh 17:37, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
I've re-read the second sentence, and it still looks all right to me. Where do you propose that the word "not" should be moved to? -- GuillaumeTell 21:41, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
[3] It would be lovely if in instances like the one in this link you could create a redirect. The far right button in the editing screen gives the right way to link it, and you just create the page which has the "wrong" name and link it to the "right" name. It helps people find pages, and makes it less likely that duplicate articles will be created. It's a dull bit of housekeeping, but it can be really useful. Sorry I haven't been doing quite as much on the Opera pages, but I've lost my Grove subscription, and since I'm not at university any more it's harder to get to the library. Cheers, Mak (talk) 15:40, 3 July 2006 (UTC)