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Archive 3: January 2007 — June 2007
You are invited to Auckland Meetup 2 on the afternoon of Saturday February 10th 2007 at Galbraith's Ale House in Mt Eden. Please see Wikipedia:Meetup/Auckland 2 for details. You can also bookmark Wikipedia:Meetup/Auckland to be informed of future NZ meetups. - SimonLyall 06:47, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
The arrangements for the Commons:Picture of the Year 2006 competition are now complete, and voting will start tomorrow, Feb 1st. All the featured pictures promoted last year are automatically nominated. As the creator of one or more images nominated for the election we invite you to participate in the event. Alvesgaspar 12:01, 31 January 2007 (UTC) {{Jan}}
Thanks for the compliment :) Couldn't have done it without Tirana tho... perhaps this is that partnership thing that people keep talking about. -- Helenalex 22:30, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
It does seem very reliant on old stuff, but then sometimes the old stuff is all there is. I think an expert on this would probably have a few problems with it, but I don't know enough about either Otago or pre-European Maori to have an informed judgement. -- Helenalex 00:03, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Any objections if I internationalise this so I can use it on Māori wikipedia?
PS - rumours of panic in Auckland over a tiny earthquake were manufactured by the media. It barely caused a ripple on my latte.
Do you know anything about Tu Pounamu IV? The page seems suspect for all sorts of reasons, but for all I know this guy really exists and is deserving of a page. Are there any Ngati Awa wikipedians out there? -- Helenalex 00:54, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Gruß. If you have time, would you perhaps be willing to retranslate the article Auraka using en:Auraka as a source? The German article reflects an earlier version, before some research threw some light on the facts. Thanks/Vielen Dank Kahuroa 05:12, 6. Mär. 2007 (CET)
I saw your reversion at Tuheitia Paki. Could you check the edit made by the same anon at Style (manner of address) please.- gadfium 08:12, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi K - that's probably a pretty reasonable idea. I've been worried about the userboxes for a while, since a lot of them seem to have a mishmash of info - often including contradictory population info based on town vs council vs region vs whatever. Part of the reason I made all those standardised maps was to try to get a lot of the articles looking a bit more uniform. You're right that it would need a bit of discussion, but the Aussie town infobox is probably a good place to start. Grutness... wha? 10:20, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
I've been working on the Culture of New Zealand page and have come to the conclusion that one of the reasons why it is not very good is that whoever originally wrote it doesn't know the difference between Pakeha culture and New Zealand culture in general. Since I don't think there is a single NZ culture, I've proposed renaming the page Cultures of New Zealand (plural), moving all the specifically Pakeha stuff to Pakeha culture and limiting the NZ culture page to brief overviews of Maori, Pakeha and other NZ cultures and how they interact, as well as the arts. I'd appreciate you having a look (there is a fuller proposal and explanation on the talk page) and commenting if you have an opinion one way or the other. -- Helenalex 05:02, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
I put the tag up, not because i doubt that Petroica is a genus but because they didn't give a reference to back up the statement that the genus is not related to european robins. There are probably some cases like this where you're right and I could go ahead and do it myself.. but I put these tags on many massive articles as well in which its not a case of: 'Hey lazybones! fix this because I think it needs it!!"- in most cases, the creators of these pages will be watching them and seeing as these people created those articles (and will probably remember where they got the info. from)- it will thus be straightforward process for them to add in references- but it would be a baffling ordeal for anyone else-( I'm saying this from experience). Its also simultaneously pointing out to people the importance of references in terms of making a good wikipedia article. Kotare 00:10, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Although my wife is of Maori ethnicity I don't have any any Maori myself and I wasn't confident enough to replace the previous (rather tentative) language regarding the Maori name. ...
Gaimhreadhan
(kiwiexile at DMOZ) •
14:04, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
If the note on Moeka'a and Walter book is off topic in this article, that means the reference itself is off topic... It is true that this book doesn't directly deals with maori migration in New Zealand, but with some maori migrations in Cook Islands, but aren't you the one who added the reference ? Nevers
Pity we let March go by without causing another debacle... Kahuroa 08:42, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi Kahuroa, I've noticed you around, and lately saw ur edits to some of my originals so I just wanted to say a big fai'aksea (thankyou) for your excellent edits to my page, and for your work in general in higlighting the highly under-represented Polynesian and Maori topics that ur articles cover. Please continue to peruse and improve my work, I'm a relative newbie and am thankful for all the improvements made to my pages.
Take care Mattbray 13:17, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi Kahuroa
I'm slowly assembling a Wikipedia to be in Rotuman and hereby invite you to vote for it's inclusion here. Please help me bring this dream for such an important resource into reality.
Thanks and Noa'ia! Mattbray 07:57, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
The above change was unnecessary. Rotuma, while part of the nation of Fiji, is immensely culturally distinct, and Rotumans look, and identif themselves as Polynesians. I think it's fine to leave the title as "Elsewhere in Polynesia" (this is all becuase I'm presuming you changed the title thinking Rotuman were Melanesian or Micronesian. If I'm wrong in this assumption, apologies.) Kia ora -- Mattbray 00:10, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
I *thought* that's what you were talking about, but my knowledge of Maori is so tenuous I wasn't sure whether I was, um, barking up the wrong tree :) BTW, I've never got round to asking about your user name - long hawk? tall chief? Grutness... wha? 13:19, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Bugs me too. But apparently it is decreed thusly - article titles are singular wherever possible. Ho hum. Sabine's Sunbird talk 05:26, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
-- howcheng { chat} 07:52, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
Hello, Kahuroa. May I ask why you removed the template to the recording?-- Tdx iang (Ta lk) 03:22, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Kia ora, I've added something to your comment on the "Discussion" page for Whakatane. So much to do, so little time ...! MisterCDE 04:57, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Sure, I'll make something up later today. Brian | (Talk) 19:59, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, I didn't mean to get snappy, I honestly don't care about Maori/Māori, but I get annoyed when bird names get changed. I work with New Zealand birds, and prefer the Maori words for them, but it is frustrating as hell to edit Kereru, Kaka and Kokako and pages that link to them,especially when it is seeming trying to establish a convention rather than follow one. My attempts to talk to someone in the NZ project were ignored. If no one is planning to move Kakapo then no worries. Sabine's Sunbird talk 23:13, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Hey, nice to hear from you. The Toi article was deleted under WP:CSD#G6 ("Housekeeping. Non-controversial maintenance tasks such as temporarily deleting a page in order to merge page histories, performing a non-controversial page move like reversing a redirect, or removing a disambiguation page that only points to a single article"). This looks to me to have been a mistake, since the fact that you are concerned means that it is not 'uncontroversial', and it does not seem to be purely house-keeping. One factor (though not stated) may have been that the article functioned as a disambiguation page, but there were only red-links in it. The best way forward, I think, is for me to recreate the page and for you to work to improve it. Best, Bucketsofg 17:36, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Please note that the naming convention for plant articles on Wikipedia calls for the use of scientific names, generally, with common names being redirects to the article titled by the scientific name. I have moved the rata articles according to this policy. Post at WP:Plants if you have any questions. The articles are lovely and well done--thanks. KP Botany 04:02, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
Good Afternoon,
Nice to see that you are also an Aucklander.
Could you please help write a short stub http://mi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auckland_Grammar_School - just a few sentences based on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auckland_Grammar_School? Just 2-4 sentences would be sufficient enough. Please. -- Per Angusta, 02:36, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
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Archive 3: January 2007 — June 2007
You are invited to Auckland Meetup 2 on the afternoon of Saturday February 10th 2007 at Galbraith's Ale House in Mt Eden. Please see Wikipedia:Meetup/Auckland 2 for details. You can also bookmark Wikipedia:Meetup/Auckland to be informed of future NZ meetups. - SimonLyall 06:47, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
The arrangements for the Commons:Picture of the Year 2006 competition are now complete, and voting will start tomorrow, Feb 1st. All the featured pictures promoted last year are automatically nominated. As the creator of one or more images nominated for the election we invite you to participate in the event. Alvesgaspar 12:01, 31 January 2007 (UTC) {{Jan}}
Thanks for the compliment :) Couldn't have done it without Tirana tho... perhaps this is that partnership thing that people keep talking about. -- Helenalex 22:30, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
It does seem very reliant on old stuff, but then sometimes the old stuff is all there is. I think an expert on this would probably have a few problems with it, but I don't know enough about either Otago or pre-European Maori to have an informed judgement. -- Helenalex 00:03, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Any objections if I internationalise this so I can use it on Māori wikipedia?
PS - rumours of panic in Auckland over a tiny earthquake were manufactured by the media. It barely caused a ripple on my latte.
Do you know anything about Tu Pounamu IV? The page seems suspect for all sorts of reasons, but for all I know this guy really exists and is deserving of a page. Are there any Ngati Awa wikipedians out there? -- Helenalex 00:54, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Gruß. If you have time, would you perhaps be willing to retranslate the article Auraka using en:Auraka as a source? The German article reflects an earlier version, before some research threw some light on the facts. Thanks/Vielen Dank Kahuroa 05:12, 6. Mär. 2007 (CET)
I saw your reversion at Tuheitia Paki. Could you check the edit made by the same anon at Style (manner of address) please.- gadfium 08:12, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi K - that's probably a pretty reasonable idea. I've been worried about the userboxes for a while, since a lot of them seem to have a mishmash of info - often including contradictory population info based on town vs council vs region vs whatever. Part of the reason I made all those standardised maps was to try to get a lot of the articles looking a bit more uniform. You're right that it would need a bit of discussion, but the Aussie town infobox is probably a good place to start. Grutness... wha? 10:20, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
I've been working on the Culture of New Zealand page and have come to the conclusion that one of the reasons why it is not very good is that whoever originally wrote it doesn't know the difference between Pakeha culture and New Zealand culture in general. Since I don't think there is a single NZ culture, I've proposed renaming the page Cultures of New Zealand (plural), moving all the specifically Pakeha stuff to Pakeha culture and limiting the NZ culture page to brief overviews of Maori, Pakeha and other NZ cultures and how they interact, as well as the arts. I'd appreciate you having a look (there is a fuller proposal and explanation on the talk page) and commenting if you have an opinion one way or the other. -- Helenalex 05:02, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
I put the tag up, not because i doubt that Petroica is a genus but because they didn't give a reference to back up the statement that the genus is not related to european robins. There are probably some cases like this where you're right and I could go ahead and do it myself.. but I put these tags on many massive articles as well in which its not a case of: 'Hey lazybones! fix this because I think it needs it!!"- in most cases, the creators of these pages will be watching them and seeing as these people created those articles (and will probably remember where they got the info. from)- it will thus be straightforward process for them to add in references- but it would be a baffling ordeal for anyone else-( I'm saying this from experience). Its also simultaneously pointing out to people the importance of references in terms of making a good wikipedia article. Kotare 00:10, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Although my wife is of Maori ethnicity I don't have any any Maori myself and I wasn't confident enough to replace the previous (rather tentative) language regarding the Maori name. ...
Gaimhreadhan
(kiwiexile at DMOZ) •
14:04, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
If the note on Moeka'a and Walter book is off topic in this article, that means the reference itself is off topic... It is true that this book doesn't directly deals with maori migration in New Zealand, but with some maori migrations in Cook Islands, but aren't you the one who added the reference ? Nevers
Pity we let March go by without causing another debacle... Kahuroa 08:42, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi Kahuroa, I've noticed you around, and lately saw ur edits to some of my originals so I just wanted to say a big fai'aksea (thankyou) for your excellent edits to my page, and for your work in general in higlighting the highly under-represented Polynesian and Maori topics that ur articles cover. Please continue to peruse and improve my work, I'm a relative newbie and am thankful for all the improvements made to my pages.
Take care Mattbray 13:17, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi Kahuroa
I'm slowly assembling a Wikipedia to be in Rotuman and hereby invite you to vote for it's inclusion here. Please help me bring this dream for such an important resource into reality.
Thanks and Noa'ia! Mattbray 07:57, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
The above change was unnecessary. Rotuma, while part of the nation of Fiji, is immensely culturally distinct, and Rotumans look, and identif themselves as Polynesians. I think it's fine to leave the title as "Elsewhere in Polynesia" (this is all becuase I'm presuming you changed the title thinking Rotuman were Melanesian or Micronesian. If I'm wrong in this assumption, apologies.) Kia ora -- Mattbray 00:10, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
I *thought* that's what you were talking about, but my knowledge of Maori is so tenuous I wasn't sure whether I was, um, barking up the wrong tree :) BTW, I've never got round to asking about your user name - long hawk? tall chief? Grutness... wha? 13:19, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Bugs me too. But apparently it is decreed thusly - article titles are singular wherever possible. Ho hum. Sabine's Sunbird talk 05:26, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
-- howcheng { chat} 07:52, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
Hello, Kahuroa. May I ask why you removed the template to the recording?-- Tdx iang (Ta lk) 03:22, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Kia ora, I've added something to your comment on the "Discussion" page for Whakatane. So much to do, so little time ...! MisterCDE 04:57, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Sure, I'll make something up later today. Brian | (Talk) 19:59, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, I didn't mean to get snappy, I honestly don't care about Maori/Māori, but I get annoyed when bird names get changed. I work with New Zealand birds, and prefer the Maori words for them, but it is frustrating as hell to edit Kereru, Kaka and Kokako and pages that link to them,especially when it is seeming trying to establish a convention rather than follow one. My attempts to talk to someone in the NZ project were ignored. If no one is planning to move Kakapo then no worries. Sabine's Sunbird talk 23:13, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Hey, nice to hear from you. The Toi article was deleted under WP:CSD#G6 ("Housekeeping. Non-controversial maintenance tasks such as temporarily deleting a page in order to merge page histories, performing a non-controversial page move like reversing a redirect, or removing a disambiguation page that only points to a single article"). This looks to me to have been a mistake, since the fact that you are concerned means that it is not 'uncontroversial', and it does not seem to be purely house-keeping. One factor (though not stated) may have been that the article functioned as a disambiguation page, but there were only red-links in it. The best way forward, I think, is for me to recreate the page and for you to work to improve it. Best, Bucketsofg 17:36, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Please note that the naming convention for plant articles on Wikipedia calls for the use of scientific names, generally, with common names being redirects to the article titled by the scientific name. I have moved the rata articles according to this policy. Post at WP:Plants if you have any questions. The articles are lovely and well done--thanks. KP Botany 04:02, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
Good Afternoon,
Nice to see that you are also an Aucklander.
Could you please help write a short stub http://mi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auckland_Grammar_School - just a few sentences based on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auckland_Grammar_School? Just 2-4 sentences would be sufficient enough. Please. -- Per Angusta, 02:36, 24 June 2007 (UTC)