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Archive 2: July 2006 — December 2006
Can you check please Heliacal rising? It was my understanding that the East-Polynesian year started in November with the Pleiades rising for the first time in dusk. Related to, but not the same as heliacal (but more accurate). -- Tauʻolunga 10:03, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
I like making the death of Cook a separate section, but I preferred the citation as it was before, indented; it's one continuous quote, and as it is now it looks like several separate pieces. It would be better to summarize it and just include the link, but short of that I think the quote should remain more distinct. What's your thoughts? KarlM 07:21, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi Kahuroa - what's the basis for your comment "nowhere in NZ is subtropical, despite the tourist ads"? The lowlands of North Island and northern South Island, being substantially frost-free ( hardiness zone 10-11), are certainly subtropical by most standards of 'temperate' (typically hardiness zones 4-9). As evidence, Nikau (and other NZ North Island species like Kauri) can't be grown in temperate regions except for a very few marginal areas (e.g. the warmest parts of Britain) - MPF 11:21, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
User:L-Bit has created Tohunga Suppression Act which is a useful addition to Wiki. Your input could be beneficial. Moriori 21:49, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Well, you've had a month to consider the admin question... any decision yet? :) Grutness... wha? 10:30, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I reverted your cut and paste move of Mount Cook to Aoraki/Mount Cook. Please do not move pages by cuttting and pasting content because that separates the edit history (required under GFDL) from the article content. I've no opinion on the merits of the move, but it should be proposed at Requested moves. Cheers. older ≠ wiser 17:02, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Stop using any easy trap vikivikipetia robot. (Unsigned comment by User:Nevers, 21 July 2006).
Hallo Kahuroa. Thank you very much for your help in my investigations about "Polynesia" and the polynesian culture in the german wikipedia. All advice you gave me has turned out to be helpful. I've looked around a little bit into what happens in your english spoken WP and found the setting is quite similiar to what is going on in our german WP. Greetings. My German user-name is "Phoenix-R". -- 212.23.126.6 08:35, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Hallo Kahuroa. Not knowing if you have seen this web-site before I'll put this Link on your D-site. There's a lot of good and old texts in this library. I Hope that this is of interest for you. Greetings -- Phoenix-R 19:28, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Do you have any access to information about "Takuu Islands"? I can't find out anything about this island with my means. -- Phoenix-R 15:59, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi Kahuroa - A suggestion - make a template similar to the {{ test}} template but worded slightly differently (something along the lines of "This is a Maori language wikipedia. While we appreciate you adding to it, additions should be in the Maori language. If you wish to experiment, please use the sandbox"), which can be subst'ed onto the use pages of anyone who repeatedly adds stuff in English. Grutness... wha? 06:14, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi, why did you suppres it in Ta'aroa? Apokrif 17:21, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I did the 'elepaio stuff you asked for. Pending a more complete description, I have not yet un-stubbed the article, but I expanded especially on subspecies and threw in a batch of new references and some interesting thoughts about the peculiar distribution . Also found out that the farmers considered the bird an avatar of Hina-puku-‘ai (the other insectivores did not really adapt well to human presence - 'amaui and relatives are very dependent on undisturbed forest -, so the 'elepaio makes a natural choice as a sort of "guardian of the taro patch", so to speak.) As VanderWerf (1994) writes about the 'elepaio: "Birds in disturbed habitat attacked prey two-thirds as often as birds in undisturbed habitat, hopped less frequently, and flew farther and more often" - which would make them more conspicuous both in general and as eaters of agricultural pests to humans. I like it when stuff just "comes together". Dysmorodrepanis 17:34, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
As you've done signif work on at least 2 of these articles, you may have a view on a proposal I've made at Talk:Haka_of_the_All_Blacks#Rationalisation_of_this_article_.26_the_separate_articles_for_the_haka. Nurg 02:17, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the latest note. Don't think I got round to doing what I was planning. Yet. Nurg 09:52, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
Capital idea, I say. There's only one problem: The service I use to make those maps, Online Map Creation, doesn't seem to know that this atoll exists. When you enter the coördinates for that part of the world, it simply gives you a blue square with no islands in it. Much as I'd like to help, it seems that Online Map Creation is of no use this time. By the way, it is notorious for leaving islands out. Kelisi 16:15, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Kahuroa. If you don't have time to fix the category sort keys of the pages you have moved so that they index properly, I can start tracking them down.
Of course, if I have to do it, I'll do it the easy way. Gene Nygaard 13:06, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
The Tongan god of the underworld (Pulotu) is Hikule'o. Change the article name? Laufakanaa is doesn't make sense as a Tongan word, at least to my mediocre Tongan and my Tongan dictionary. Zora 10:22, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the message. I've long since returned the Dictionary that I was consulting before. My initial guess is that it (like so many of the dozens we dealt with a few months ago) is wrong and should be deleted. But if we delete it, it will only be a matter of time before it's recreated by someone else on the basis of the f***ing Encyclopedia Mythica site. Buck ets ofg✐ 01:59, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I'm happy to take a look and offer my opinion, but I've got rather a busy morning so it may be a bit. Best regards, Ziggurat 20:50, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Oceanic Mythology Pages: Hi Kahuroa -- On a few pages today I added the "oceanic myth categories" when taking off the "oceanic myth stub" - without intent to hurt these pages just to replace the stub with the equivalent. At your suggestion I see that this was redundant. I'll go back and double check them right now Goldenrowley 06:41, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
Hope you don't mind, but I uploaded your pic of the kererū / NZ wood pigeon onto the Commons - so it can be accessed by all Wikipedia projects (like the Māori language wikipedia that I am involved with) rather than just the English Wikipedia. It's a great photo, with really nice detail. If this isn't what you want, then I can remove it from commons. Cheers Kahuroa 10:14, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
I really liked your photo, so I nominated it to be a Featured Picture on commons, have a look: commons:Commons:Featured pictures candidates/Image:Poumatua2.jpg. Cheers.-- Konstable 00:02, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
I think you are linking this article to articles about Love on other wikis. This is incorrect, Te Aroha is not about Love, it is the name of a mountain. en:User:Kahuroa. 203.109.208.180 9 septembre 2006 à 14:30 (CEST)
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Hi Kahuroa, thank you for supporting me in my RfA, which was closed as successful last Wednesday with a unanimous support of (47/0/0). I will do my best to help keep Wikipedia clean, green and vandal free. Once again, thank you! -- Konstable 14:51, 16 September 2006 (UTC) |
Discussion on Marae moved to that article's Talk page Kahuroa 23:44, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Could you email me a copy of the message you got from that library? jwales, wikia.com Thanks. -- Jimbo Wales 16:29, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Image:Bay of Islands.jpg - If memory serves, you are in the Bay of Is. Could you take a look at this image on Commons and identify any of the islands involved - is it taken from Urupukapuka for instance? Can you let me know - or just edit the commons description directly. Cheers - need a pic for an article on miWiki. Kahuroa 06:14, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Gee, I dunno about this one. It's commercial, sure, but, more importantly, it's about Tiki. It looks to me like there's a lot of Tiki info there if you dig through it. The problem with the other one was that it was just a link to Hawaii, as far as I could see. There have got to be millions of Hawaiian sites that are exotic, and genuine, but have nothing to do with Tiki Culture. If, for instance, the original Don the Beach in Hollywood was still going, and had a Web site, would that be permissible for a link or not? I would say, Yes. Now, there's also the London South Pacific link. It's clearly commercial, but once again it's Tiki. Less so, in my opinion, than the one you just deleted, however. I could be convinced either way by the right arguments on this particular link, though. Since Tiki has *always* been commercially oriented (as far as I know), it's hard to draw a line. Someone with a link to his site on eBay for selling tiki mugs -- yeah, that's an easy one. The others are hard. I gotta say, in passing, that I first went to D. the B. in Hollywood as a 14-year-old kid around 1956, and my mother let me sip her drinks, and I still think it's about the greatest restaurant experience I've ever had. I went a lot between 56 and, oh, 65, then seldom. By 75 it was still going, but most of the back rooms had been shut down for lack of customers, and it had clearly lost its zing. But if D. the B. ever opened the original again, and ran it the way it was, I'd make a special trip to get there. He lived in Moorea for a number of years, not far from where I lived in Tahiti, and I used to see his little sign, Donn Beach, on the road, but I never made the connection. I wish I'd dropped in to chat with him.... Hayford Peirce 01:50, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
Kia ora Kahuroa - those pictures definitely help the article. Not sure what to do with the citations, because you're right, it almost all came from the NZDB. I've changed the subheadings on the article a bit, BTW - hopefully they make a bit more sense now than they did. Grutness... wha? 04:29, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Kia ora Kahuroa - yes, it's your picture all right... I considered several but that one looked best in that format. Things are fine with here, though I'm thinking of taking another short wikibreak so as to catch up on some real world things - I've got a couple of short writing assignments coming up I want to get out of the way (I work part-time as an arts reviewer). Looking forward to the summer weather kicking in again once this damn drizzle stops! Hope things are fine with you - whereabouts in NZ are you? Grutness... wha? 10:30, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi, thank you for Hawaii etymology. Would you mind checking the last few points at the Hawaii discussion page? I realize there are many similarities between the Maori and the kanaka Maoli and your input is appreciated. I originally thought you were blanking without providing an alternate/more correct etymology and am glad that you've provided a corrected one. Thank you, Badagnani 10:02, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi Kahuroa - something you might be able to clear up... the article Milky Way (mythology) says To the Māori the Milky Way is the waka (canoe) of Tama-rereti. I was sure I'd heard a Māori legend in which the Milky Way was the fishing net of Ikaroa. Is there more than one different origin of the Milky Way in Māori mythology? Grutness... wha? 00:45, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi Kahuroa. I was wondering why you removed the link to Jafa from the Auckland article. Although I'm sure some (if not all) Aucklanders are sick of the term, I think both the term and the article accurately sums up some of the feelings that some non Auckland New Zealanders have towards Auckland. I won't add the link back, but I think you should reconsider the removal. I will be happy to participate in a debate on whether the Jafa page should exist at all, but since it exists now, there should be a link to it. Cheers. -- Roue2 02:27, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
And warmest seasons greetings from me to you, too. Hope you have a fun and relaxing holiday break. Thanks for the note about mi:wiki, BTW - though my knowledge of Te Reo is so slight that I doubt I'd be able to do better than Robin's templates in any case. The best I can usually do is stumble through a ten-word stub and leave it at that. Grutness... wha? 23:05, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
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Archive 2: July 2006 — December 2006
Can you check please Heliacal rising? It was my understanding that the East-Polynesian year started in November with the Pleiades rising for the first time in dusk. Related to, but not the same as heliacal (but more accurate). -- Tauʻolunga 10:03, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
I like making the death of Cook a separate section, but I preferred the citation as it was before, indented; it's one continuous quote, and as it is now it looks like several separate pieces. It would be better to summarize it and just include the link, but short of that I think the quote should remain more distinct. What's your thoughts? KarlM 07:21, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi Kahuroa - what's the basis for your comment "nowhere in NZ is subtropical, despite the tourist ads"? The lowlands of North Island and northern South Island, being substantially frost-free ( hardiness zone 10-11), are certainly subtropical by most standards of 'temperate' (typically hardiness zones 4-9). As evidence, Nikau (and other NZ North Island species like Kauri) can't be grown in temperate regions except for a very few marginal areas (e.g. the warmest parts of Britain) - MPF 11:21, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
User:L-Bit has created Tohunga Suppression Act which is a useful addition to Wiki. Your input could be beneficial. Moriori 21:49, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Well, you've had a month to consider the admin question... any decision yet? :) Grutness... wha? 10:30, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I reverted your cut and paste move of Mount Cook to Aoraki/Mount Cook. Please do not move pages by cuttting and pasting content because that separates the edit history (required under GFDL) from the article content. I've no opinion on the merits of the move, but it should be proposed at Requested moves. Cheers. older ≠ wiser 17:02, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Stop using any easy trap vikivikipetia robot. (Unsigned comment by User:Nevers, 21 July 2006).
Hallo Kahuroa. Thank you very much for your help in my investigations about "Polynesia" and the polynesian culture in the german wikipedia. All advice you gave me has turned out to be helpful. I've looked around a little bit into what happens in your english spoken WP and found the setting is quite similiar to what is going on in our german WP. Greetings. My German user-name is "Phoenix-R". -- 212.23.126.6 08:35, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Hallo Kahuroa. Not knowing if you have seen this web-site before I'll put this Link on your D-site. There's a lot of good and old texts in this library. I Hope that this is of interest for you. Greetings -- Phoenix-R 19:28, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Do you have any access to information about "Takuu Islands"? I can't find out anything about this island with my means. -- Phoenix-R 15:59, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi Kahuroa - A suggestion - make a template similar to the {{ test}} template but worded slightly differently (something along the lines of "This is a Maori language wikipedia. While we appreciate you adding to it, additions should be in the Maori language. If you wish to experiment, please use the sandbox"), which can be subst'ed onto the use pages of anyone who repeatedly adds stuff in English. Grutness... wha? 06:14, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi, why did you suppres it in Ta'aroa? Apokrif 17:21, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I did the 'elepaio stuff you asked for. Pending a more complete description, I have not yet un-stubbed the article, but I expanded especially on subspecies and threw in a batch of new references and some interesting thoughts about the peculiar distribution . Also found out that the farmers considered the bird an avatar of Hina-puku-‘ai (the other insectivores did not really adapt well to human presence - 'amaui and relatives are very dependent on undisturbed forest -, so the 'elepaio makes a natural choice as a sort of "guardian of the taro patch", so to speak.) As VanderWerf (1994) writes about the 'elepaio: "Birds in disturbed habitat attacked prey two-thirds as often as birds in undisturbed habitat, hopped less frequently, and flew farther and more often" - which would make them more conspicuous both in general and as eaters of agricultural pests to humans. I like it when stuff just "comes together". Dysmorodrepanis 17:34, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
As you've done signif work on at least 2 of these articles, you may have a view on a proposal I've made at Talk:Haka_of_the_All_Blacks#Rationalisation_of_this_article_.26_the_separate_articles_for_the_haka. Nurg 02:17, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the latest note. Don't think I got round to doing what I was planning. Yet. Nurg 09:52, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
Capital idea, I say. There's only one problem: The service I use to make those maps, Online Map Creation, doesn't seem to know that this atoll exists. When you enter the coördinates for that part of the world, it simply gives you a blue square with no islands in it. Much as I'd like to help, it seems that Online Map Creation is of no use this time. By the way, it is notorious for leaving islands out. Kelisi 16:15, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Kahuroa. If you don't have time to fix the category sort keys of the pages you have moved so that they index properly, I can start tracking them down.
Of course, if I have to do it, I'll do it the easy way. Gene Nygaard 13:06, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
The Tongan god of the underworld (Pulotu) is Hikule'o. Change the article name? Laufakanaa is doesn't make sense as a Tongan word, at least to my mediocre Tongan and my Tongan dictionary. Zora 10:22, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the message. I've long since returned the Dictionary that I was consulting before. My initial guess is that it (like so many of the dozens we dealt with a few months ago) is wrong and should be deleted. But if we delete it, it will only be a matter of time before it's recreated by someone else on the basis of the f***ing Encyclopedia Mythica site. Buck ets ofg✐ 01:59, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I'm happy to take a look and offer my opinion, but I've got rather a busy morning so it may be a bit. Best regards, Ziggurat 20:50, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Oceanic Mythology Pages: Hi Kahuroa -- On a few pages today I added the "oceanic myth categories" when taking off the "oceanic myth stub" - without intent to hurt these pages just to replace the stub with the equivalent. At your suggestion I see that this was redundant. I'll go back and double check them right now Goldenrowley 06:41, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
Hope you don't mind, but I uploaded your pic of the kererū / NZ wood pigeon onto the Commons - so it can be accessed by all Wikipedia projects (like the Māori language wikipedia that I am involved with) rather than just the English Wikipedia. It's a great photo, with really nice detail. If this isn't what you want, then I can remove it from commons. Cheers Kahuroa 10:14, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
I really liked your photo, so I nominated it to be a Featured Picture on commons, have a look: commons:Commons:Featured pictures candidates/Image:Poumatua2.jpg. Cheers.-- Konstable 00:02, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
I think you are linking this article to articles about Love on other wikis. This is incorrect, Te Aroha is not about Love, it is the name of a mountain. en:User:Kahuroa. 203.109.208.180 9 septembre 2006 à 14:30 (CEST)
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Hi Kahuroa, thank you for supporting me in my RfA, which was closed as successful last Wednesday with a unanimous support of (47/0/0). I will do my best to help keep Wikipedia clean, green and vandal free. Once again, thank you! -- Konstable 14:51, 16 September 2006 (UTC) |
Discussion on Marae moved to that article's Talk page Kahuroa 23:44, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Could you email me a copy of the message you got from that library? jwales, wikia.com Thanks. -- Jimbo Wales 16:29, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Image:Bay of Islands.jpg - If memory serves, you are in the Bay of Is. Could you take a look at this image on Commons and identify any of the islands involved - is it taken from Urupukapuka for instance? Can you let me know - or just edit the commons description directly. Cheers - need a pic for an article on miWiki. Kahuroa 06:14, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Gee, I dunno about this one. It's commercial, sure, but, more importantly, it's about Tiki. It looks to me like there's a lot of Tiki info there if you dig through it. The problem with the other one was that it was just a link to Hawaii, as far as I could see. There have got to be millions of Hawaiian sites that are exotic, and genuine, but have nothing to do with Tiki Culture. If, for instance, the original Don the Beach in Hollywood was still going, and had a Web site, would that be permissible for a link or not? I would say, Yes. Now, there's also the London South Pacific link. It's clearly commercial, but once again it's Tiki. Less so, in my opinion, than the one you just deleted, however. I could be convinced either way by the right arguments on this particular link, though. Since Tiki has *always* been commercially oriented (as far as I know), it's hard to draw a line. Someone with a link to his site on eBay for selling tiki mugs -- yeah, that's an easy one. The others are hard. I gotta say, in passing, that I first went to D. the B. in Hollywood as a 14-year-old kid around 1956, and my mother let me sip her drinks, and I still think it's about the greatest restaurant experience I've ever had. I went a lot between 56 and, oh, 65, then seldom. By 75 it was still going, but most of the back rooms had been shut down for lack of customers, and it had clearly lost its zing. But if D. the B. ever opened the original again, and ran it the way it was, I'd make a special trip to get there. He lived in Moorea for a number of years, not far from where I lived in Tahiti, and I used to see his little sign, Donn Beach, on the road, but I never made the connection. I wish I'd dropped in to chat with him.... Hayford Peirce 01:50, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
Kia ora Kahuroa - those pictures definitely help the article. Not sure what to do with the citations, because you're right, it almost all came from the NZDB. I've changed the subheadings on the article a bit, BTW - hopefully they make a bit more sense now than they did. Grutness... wha? 04:29, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Kia ora Kahuroa - yes, it's your picture all right... I considered several but that one looked best in that format. Things are fine with here, though I'm thinking of taking another short wikibreak so as to catch up on some real world things - I've got a couple of short writing assignments coming up I want to get out of the way (I work part-time as an arts reviewer). Looking forward to the summer weather kicking in again once this damn drizzle stops! Hope things are fine with you - whereabouts in NZ are you? Grutness... wha? 10:30, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi, thank you for Hawaii etymology. Would you mind checking the last few points at the Hawaii discussion page? I realize there are many similarities between the Maori and the kanaka Maoli and your input is appreciated. I originally thought you were blanking without providing an alternate/more correct etymology and am glad that you've provided a corrected one. Thank you, Badagnani 10:02, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi Kahuroa - something you might be able to clear up... the article Milky Way (mythology) says To the Māori the Milky Way is the waka (canoe) of Tama-rereti. I was sure I'd heard a Māori legend in which the Milky Way was the fishing net of Ikaroa. Is there more than one different origin of the Milky Way in Māori mythology? Grutness... wha? 00:45, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi Kahuroa. I was wondering why you removed the link to Jafa from the Auckland article. Although I'm sure some (if not all) Aucklanders are sick of the term, I think both the term and the article accurately sums up some of the feelings that some non Auckland New Zealanders have towards Auckland. I won't add the link back, but I think you should reconsider the removal. I will be happy to participate in a debate on whether the Jafa page should exist at all, but since it exists now, there should be a link to it. Cheers. -- Roue2 02:27, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
And warmest seasons greetings from me to you, too. Hope you have a fun and relaxing holiday break. Thanks for the note about mi:wiki, BTW - though my knowledge of Te Reo is so slight that I doubt I'd be able to do better than Robin's templates in any case. The best I can usually do is stumble through a ten-word stub and leave it at that. Grutness... wha? 23:05, 23 December 2006 (UTC)