I will be trying to deal with requests and issues that go to JzG for the indefinite future. I may not be able to deal with all of them, since I am not nearly as experienced or prolific an editor as JzG. I'll try to check his talk page a few times a day, but if something needs urgent attention, an email to me and/or a message on my talk page will probably work better. JoshuaZ 01:38, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Count me in too of course, with the same caveats. My sincere condolences to Guy at this time - sigh. -- kingboyk 02:34, 21 May 2006 (UTC) Guy just received a templated newsletter, which I have moved to User talk:JzG/Temp 1. I suggest moving all low-importance content to that subpage to keep this one clear. He can move/delete/archive it as he sees fit upon his return. -- kingboyk 02:54, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Anything I can do to help? JzG is "good people"... condolences, and hope all works out well in the end for you Guy... + + Lar: t/ c 03:26, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
My condolences to JzG. Stephen B Streater 07:58, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
JzG, you are in my thoughts and prayers during this difficult time. A Transportation Enthusiast 12:30, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Guy: I'm praying for you and yours. "May your God be with you." - Arie. AvB ÷ talk 12:46, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
JoshuaZ et al., if I can help (as a non-admin) I'll gladly make time for it. AvB ÷ talk 12:46, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Condolences Guy. All the best. Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 03:38, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Take care, mate. Condolences. NSL E ( T+ C) at 03:50 UTC ( 2006-05-23)
My condolences to you. All the best. -- Ter e nc e Ong 12:08, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Condolences from me and mine as well, JzG. I'll be glad to help out with anything. RasputinAXP c 20:02, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm sorry to see that. Waiting is. Midgley 03:05, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi JzG,
I hope your wikibreak is going well. I will be very grateful if a kind administrator posted the contents of the deleted userboxes Drug-free, atheist, evolution2, evol-N and antiuserboxdeletion at a subpage of my userpage for userification. Thanks. Loom91 06:49, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I've added and deleted some material with a view to giving the article more balance - unsurprisingly, that's being disputed. I feel input from a neutral and level-headed editor is needed at this stage. If you could take a look at the recent history and make some suggestions I'd appreciate it. Thanks, Dlyons493 Talk 19:53, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
Tuatafa Hori was not a fake, and was not proved as such. She was deleted simply because she was suspected, and is now under protection so that she cannot be created again. The book was a proper source. They found some Myspace things that mentioned her so they assumed that she was a hoax, however, that is no basis for that type of assumption. I have a friend whos screen name is that of a historical queen, but does that mean that she made up that particular queen? I just don't think this particular issue was given enough credit-- they just wanted to get rid of it. 72.144.223.101 14:01, 30 May 2006 (UTC) (reposted by me from archive page - RasputinAXP c 15:06, 30 May 2006 (UTC))
This article has been recreated in a different format. You discussed the deletion of a previous version; please comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Possible wars between liberal democracies; it may be that this version is less POV. Septentrionalis 21:02, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
What does the British Flag have to do with Admin-ship? And how is that Quality Vandalism? Livin' Large 12:24, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
It sounds like you're complaining about RFCs in general, rather than commenting on this one in particular. No RFC has ever helped build an encyclopedia- I thought this was obvious. RFCs are used in those unfortunate circumstances when there's a problem. So far, a good number of people have found Tony Sidaway's behavior to be disruptive to building that great encyclopedia- hence the RFC. Hope this helps. Friday (talk) 17:41, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello friends. I have just been catching up on a couple of things, I will be back at least to some degree but not as active as before, or at least not for a while. There has been a life-changing event.
My sister, 21 months younger than me, died on 20 May. The cause is not a state secret but I'm not really ready to talk about it here right now. I was there when she died, and I can safely say that was the worst moment of my life (and presumably hers, though fortunately she was well out of it by the end). What with helping to organise the funeral, actually managing to get the kids on holiday, driving back from Baie du Somme to Hertfordshire for the day to see her off, and the complete emotional exhaustion the whole thing has caused - to say nothing of having to find the money to buy my other sister a car with brakes - things are feeling pretty stragnge right now.
My sincere thanks to all who have sent supportive messages, and to those who have picked up the many loose ends I left dangling. I'll be back to work next week, and will be looking to make some contributions to the project soon. Just zis Guy you know? 17:58, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm just interesting about your ID. Is your ID JzG just for abbreviation? Please, Reply on my talk-page. Thanks. Just ask you for about your ID. '''*Daniel*''' 03:35, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
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On DRV, you said that List of tongue-twisters should be restored because it was deleted at Wikibooks. It has however, also been transwiki'd to Wikiquote, where it has not (yet) been deleted. - Splash - tk 20:33, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm notifying you because you voted recently at Wikipedia:Deletion review#List of tongue-twisters. Since your vote, additional information (merely, the fact that the content was transwikied to Wikiquote) has emerged. I'd therefore like to ask you to revise (or confirm) your vote in light of this additional information. Thank you, and sorry for bothering you about his. — Ilmari Karonen ( talk) 21:27, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I think you're right. Next steps? Someday you need to share your method with me of getting confirmation. FeloniousMonk 15:49, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
First, I am not a sock puppet (I assume you mean Jason). Second, I have to figure out how to file a complaint with Wikipedia. I am amazed that I am providing factual information and you call it a "white wash". The article says LBU makes false accreditation claims. They do not. It says degrees by Life experience, they do not. I have made the challenge to show me several times and NO ONE has done so. When I edited I left the good and bad in there. LBU is at least honest. This article is dishonest and you have an obvious bias that means deleting material that does not serve your interest. I provided facts, you nothing. In arbitration your assertions will not stand up. LBU catalogue clearly says...we are not accredited, you are unlikely to become a certified teacher...you will not be able to obtain counselor certifcation, etc. What you and the folks who dislike LBU and refuse to at least present factual unbiased information are doing is essentially bullying. It is also dishonest.
Nordundsud 18:46, 7 June 2006 (UTC)Nordundsud
The fact that you think I am a sock puppet is amusing and to me (unprovable) demonstrates a shocking lack of intuition. I know who Jason is because about 95% of anything negative I ever saw about LBU was due to his interactions with others. Don't know what to make of him (strange run for Governor of Calfornia and even stranger concession speech). Not to mention the fact that although I am going to a fundamentalist school I am not a fundamentalist (enjoy reading Spong & Borg). As an FYI, I have three accredited degree (BA thru doctorate).
My editing, was in order to get factual information in. I don't mind having in there that some have accused LBU of being a mill. I do mind wierd assertions like LBU is a mill because they claim false accreditation or offer Life Credit Degrees. Utter unsupportable nonsense. That is why no one could support those assertions with references. To leave that in the article is wrong.
LBU is among the most honest unaccredited schools in terms of saying so several times and noting that because they do not have accreditation you will not likely become a certified teacher and will not qualify for mental health licensure.
As a side note, not all unaccredited schools are mills. They do have some large limitations in terms of their use as you note in your latest edit. You may want to read Bear's Guide. Dr. Bear has worked with the FBI to sting diploma mills and is the foremost expert in distance education. I think he is currently on Gov. Schwarzenegger's Board that deals with education.
Your last edits that I read were fine and honest. Thank you!
Nordundsud 19:10, 7 June 2006 (UTC)Nordundsud
Gastrich posted briefly on a distance education forum board that I frequent and it was a strange experience. He did not hold up well and left. That was my first encounter. Searched his page and could not believe he was serious about himself. His concession speech was quite bizarre and written as if he were a major contender for Governor of California. At any rate, education and accreditation issues are hobbies of mine and subjects that I am very...very familiar with. We have people on these education boards pursuing degrees from the University of London to the University of Zululand. I certainly always recommend accredited institutions due to versality (etc.). With Australian and South African degrees (accredited) being so affordable there is little point in pursuing unaccredited degrees. Unaccredited schools do serve a certain constituency. In the US there are some fundamentalist schools like Pensacola Christian that will not have anything to do with the government. The BBFI is a fundamentalist Baptist group (some of whom see the Southern Baptist Convention as too liberal). You are correct that terminology is interesting because you use the term "American Baptist", they are actually a variety of Baptist (rather liberal) that would probably not have anything to do with the BBFI. The openly homosexual preacher and chair holder at Princeton, Peter Gomes, is an American Baptist. He probably won't be appearing at any of the BBFI college commencement ceremonies any time soon. The very conservative BBFI theological stand espoused by LBU is probably one reason that Attorney General Ashcroft was a commencemnt speaker there. Ashcroft was a very conservative Christian (Bush's first Attorney General).
At any rate, I see you are Anglican. I grew up as an Anglican (wonderful English grandmother). One of my degrees is from a Commonwealth country and the other two accredited degrees are American. Miss my grandmother's Roast beef & Yorkshire pudding, bubble and squeak, sheperd's pie, plum pudding, etc. Still drink black indian tea with milk though.
Nordundsud 03:28, 8 June 2006 (UTC)Nordundsud
A request has been made to remove the domain fisheaters.com from the spam blacklist [1]. As you are the one that requested it be listed, I'd appreciate it if you could provide a reason why I should or should not remove it. Thanks Naconkantari 22:18, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Your comments on the nature of the page spurred me to start an AfD nom. Comment here if you like. Marskell 16:13, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello,
An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Raphael1. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Raphael1/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Raphael1/Workshop.
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Sandstein has requested that his page not be cluttered with whatever dispute you may have with me.
By the way, I read both the MPOV and Tigers pages with keen interest. Both of these are rather insightful articles. I found it rather amazing how closely the criteria for inclusion into either category resembles just four of the more than twenty posters who've provided well-stated, clear, concise, and most importantly, qualified comments, both positive and negative, to my articles. It's nice to know that so few Wiki editors fall into these categories. Sadly, the four who did fall into one or more categories are apparently unaware that that they do, or that disagreement is healthy, provided the discussion remains civil, threats or invitations to leave (very uncivil) remain absent, and the focus centers around the details and quality of the article, rather than degenerating childishly into who's right or wrong. These simple rules of debate can be learned in any high school.
Of particular note were the very polite and well-crafted suggestions at the bottom of the Tiger's article. Unfortunately, I've seen very few suggestions resembling those in the comments, most disturbingly, including among a few admins. I also loved the the following statement on the MPOV article: "Upon reading this list, you are convinced that most of the people you deal with are suffering from MPOV." Sadly, I cannot lay claim to this thought, as I've only found about four of more than twenty posters to whom this applies, and then only on topics which are highly controversial in more conservative circles. The other topics I've created, or edited, to which I apply the same care, thankfull remain free of uncivility, personal attacks, etc. Who was it who said, "The best example you can provide is the one you put forth yourself?" On second thought, I could use a good polishing, too. Always room for improvement! Dr1819 19:25, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
I've been following the discussions on sigs and I remember you saying something about shortening your name to JzG to make editing talk pages simpler. I'm thinking of having a new signature and am looking at requirements:
To keep the signature short in edit mode, I'll need a new login name as this would be referred to twice - once each for the user page and the talk page. SS is gone, as is St, but as both my names start with St, I was thinking about: S t2
The "S" represents me and links to my user page, the "t" links to my talk page. The "t" is a bit short to click on, and "St" could be confused with the (inactive) user of that name. As both my names start with St, the "2" solves both problems.
I'm planning to wait until after my RfA, but wondered if there were any logistical issues in transferring everything over to a new id. Would I need a bureaucrat to help, for example? And of course, if it's a bad idea, the next few weeks would be a good time to mention it ;-) Stephen B Streater 21:22, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
An RfC has been opened concerning Dr1819s behavior surrounding men's fashion articles. Since you have been involved in discussing his behavior on these articles, you may wish to certify the dispute or add your thoughts on the issue. Thanks. Shell babelfish 01:27, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
I've got a meeting right now and will be back later. [2]. Stephen B Streater 11:29, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
The AfD looks like it could be headed to majority delete but not consensus delete and thus kept (say 65% del). This is in some ways the worst outcome. Disinterested editors have rightly said get it out of here, while a handful of people into astrology will veto deletion. Is there anywhere it can be brought up, say with editors who work on a lot of science articles? The RfC pages generate little and it doesn't seem right to bring up an AfD at the sci Help Desk.
I realize I'm sort of asking "how can we game the system" but at the same time it strikes me as a good example of an article that if seen by long-term editors would certainly get shot down for violating all three content policies in ample measure. Marskell 12:58, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the support – Gurch 17:30, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
Meh, it's not really just problems as much as stress that would hinder Wikipedia, so I'm taking a brief side-step for the benefit of the project. And don't worry about BB Sinha, I acted rash and that was not approate (I think I spelt that wrong). I have just followed that article and had been urging the creator to bring sources, and well he said he had a photocopy, but I think he gave up. To be honest, I don't know the true extent of his humanitarian efforts, I saw Paul Farmer speak and it was fascinating, but I learned that 97% of humanitarians don't get recognized, because...well, of the field they work in. Thank you, again for all you concerns and you are an awesome admin! Yanksox 18:31, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
I replied on Robertsteadman's talk page. He is Robsteadman, and has been unblocked per a discussion on AN a month or so ago per conditions held in my userspace linked from Robertsteadman's talk page. Syrthiss 15:17, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
[3] [4]. Some of the legal points looks quite interesting, but I don't think he's come across WP:NPOV. Stephen B Streater 17:46, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Guy, one of my favorite editors Herostratus is being eaten alive on his Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Herostratus. Please see my comment and support if you think it is wise. I think that you are familar with Sam's the out of process deletion of the image on Lolicon article and likely understand the complexity of the decision. I think Herostratus is being unfairly portrayed by some oppose voters on that topic. FloNight talk 19:02, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Do you mind having a look at User:Stanfordandson? He started an account today, made his first main space edit to Gay Nigger Association of America, and then decided to troll (in my very honest opinion) the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Objective validity of astrology page. I've actually been reported at 3RR for the first time! Though I seem to only have made three... Marskell 22:04, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi there! I am leaving you a note to ask you to clarify something. Per your edit summary, are you calling my "oppose" vote or my opinion on the topic of snarking "perverse"? Thanks and have a great day - Aguerriero ( talk) 14:46, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
My Request for Adminship passed with flying colors (54/6/1), and I thank you for supporting me. I aspire to continue being a "Good Guy" in my adminship duties. Sometimes, "Good Guy"s can make bad decisions, and it is in that respect that I ask for your help. If you ever find me doing anything out of the ordinary, please let me know. Thanks again for your support, Ian Manka Talk to me! 00:44, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
It's not as clear as your statement suggests. I have no intention of prelonging a revert war on WP:ANI. At the same time, I think what he was doing to my comments - seperating them from what I was commenting upon - was uncool, and he refused to explain it. If I'd reverted them, there's no guarantee I wouldn't myself have been reported. Perhaps you'd have called that report frivolous, perhaps not. How should I know? I do know that I find such talk page behavior maddening, and that it's a drag having to revert just to keep one's comments in their intended context. If this report solves this issue, great. Netscott should not be moving other editors' comments like this. That's not cool. Timothy Usher 13:15, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your comment on the history page. yes I appear to have botched my request for an application for the page to be placed on the deletion list. I have left a note on the Talk Page. As an administrator can I ask you to assist me in getting that template up.
You asked for evidence of his writings. He has written countless articles and essays and is, of course, an editor also. A long lost of his works was on the previous article now scrapped. It was stated that they were irrelevant.
I feel the time has come to close that page. Sussexman 16:12, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Obviously you are no academic. Otherwise you'd know that in writing a thesis or whatever that is it very common to quote from articles which have been thoroughly researched and which appeared in learned journals/magazines, whatever. You would also know that most politicians right up to the 20th century wrote "pamphlets" rather than books and they were duly called "political writers". The Communist Manifesto, for instance, was issued as a phamplet. It was composed by a political writer. As for you guys trying to say you're all being fair and neutral with GLF - pleas, give us all a break. The garbage about his court case etc., is now the largest item on his page. Buts what you all really wanted, wasn't it. 81.131.4.94 20:40, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
"Communist Manifesto, for instance, was issued as a phamplet."
If Marx and Engels had written the Communist Manifesto and nothing else they would be pamphleteers and nothing else - as it was they went on to write a number of books. Homey 19:40, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
Very appropriate and much appreciated. Thanks for that. Netscott 22:22, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
JzG, I apologize for this disruption of your talk page. Say the word and this'll be taken elsewhere if needed. Netscott 07:41, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
You recently blocked me for edits I made to the AfD of the article about the objective validity of astrology, saying blocking me till the end of the 'vote' would suffice. However, my block has expired, but the AfD isn't over yet. Please feel free to block me again until it is done. Stanfordandson 01:00, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
JzG, I am curious as to whether there is some mediation process between users. Every day I attempt to clear things up with Netscott, and every day he comes around to start things up again. It honestly seems to me as if he has a running list of people he'd like to drive off of Wikipedia, the last one was FairNBalanced, I defended FNB against a proposed indefinite ban, and now he's latched onto me. He acts as if he is the sole arbitrer of good faith, and by some arcane and indefeasable calculus, he's concluded (or at least claims) that I don't have it. Timothy Usher 11:35, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
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Thank you for your support in my RfA, which ended with the result of (74/0/0). If there is anything I can help with feel free to
ask. Also, if there is anything I am doing wrong, please point that out as well. I look forward to working with you in the future.
Highest regards, DVD+ R/W 01:47, 17 June 2006 (UTC) |
I just want you to know that I find your remarks insulting and highly offensive. Your idea of "neutrality" and common decency clearly differs from mine. That does not mean you are right. Sussexman 20:40, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
I have cleaned up all the redirects and links to this article, either redirecting/linking to the general, the legitimate family article, or in some cases just tagging them for speedy as db-redirnone. Boy, this kid was thorough, screwed things up all over the place. Fan1967 13:23, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Hey, sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. I'm on vacation with sparse internet. If I could have the text for my personal use that would be great. I was actually going to bring it over to b:Muggle's Guide to Harry Potter because that Wikibook is seriously lacking, but… do you have to email it to me, or can you post it somewhere where it can then again be deleted after I retrieve the information? I don't think I will be able to respond to you again until 25 June, so apologies in advance as I roam Europe searching for wireless internet… Thanks! -- Fbv 65 e del / ☑t / ☛c || 16:51, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
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Thanks for voting! Hello JzG/Archive 11, and thank you so much for voting in my recent RfA. I am pleased to inform you that it passed with a final tally of (119/1/3), into the WP:100, so I have now been cleared for adminship and will soon be soaring above the clouds. I was overjoyed, shocked, and humbled by the tally, and, most importantly, all the support. Thank you. If there is ever anything you need, you know where you can find me. Take care. |
-- Pilot| guy 22:39, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello JzG, and thanks for voting in my recent RfA, which passed with a tally of (68/19/3). I appreciated your comments, which I hope to take on board in order to gain your respect in my work as an administrator. Best of luck in your continued editing of the encyclopedia! Sam Vimes 17:52, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
So I want to understand clearly, did I advance the case on verifiability, and I now have to make the case for notability?
Bloger 20:11, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
I don't know if you are in the UK or not but is it possible to get a British newspaper interested in this matter? If they were to print something it would quite quickly end the debate over whether the media can mention "spent" convictions. Homey 20:12, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
I won't remove the to-be article from my user page. I've stated the reasons on my talk page. I don't exactly approve of changing part of my iterpretations of the deletion of the article and the Asperger's self-identification article either. It is my opinion that this was vandalism and a coordinated attempt to silence the ideas. The requests to remove the content from my user page is certainly the same thing (an attempt to silence impopular ideas). -- Rdos 07:06, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi, JzG, Can I ask you to please put your new comments at the end of section? It is very difficult to follow chronologically people's comments if you insert them out of order. Thanks. Fresheneesz 07:38, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Exactly how many RfCs have been called to discuss your WP policy enforcement actions? Stephen B Streater 17:38, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks... It's tuff trying to maintain order when it comes really hot issues. --- J.S ( t| c) 18:29, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
First, I have nothing more to discuss with you, and second, your admin admirers have *protected* it so non-admins cannot make comments. Clearly an appauling strategy. -- Rdos 11:29, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Could you please reinstall the category listngs on my user page and remove your alterations to my comments (take your comments away along with my overstriked). I won't accept your other alterations anytime soon anyway. -- Rdos 18:15, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Was it you that blocked my site for wiki-links? If so, I suggest you point me to the proper location for opposing such a ridiculus action. -- Rdos 06:38, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
OK, so how about a truce, and I'll leave you alone? If you remove the spam-block on rdos.net I'll promise to keep the Neanderthal theory out of Wikipedia until I have a journal citation to it? -- Rdos 19:51, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
What!? Moving house?! ... and to a place with a real shed I bet! Leaving me the last man on earth without a shed... Aaaack! *shed envy* Pete.Hurd 02:29, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Seems our aspiring aristocrat just won't give up. This time he reinvented his dad as personal protector to the queen: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sir Andrew Roberts, with a bunch of titles that don't actually exist. - Fan1967 07:59, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Some time ago, we coined the term Viewtooth for sending video over Bluetooth. Now I see it has 1440 Google hits. I'm tempted to include the word in the FORscene article, but have resisted temptation so far. Do you have a feel of WP:NEO threshhold for a word? It's catching on around 50 times faster than "MUG" ;-) Stephen B Streater 20:48, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello,
An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/8bitjake. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/8bitjake/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/8bitjake/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, -- Tony Sidaway 23:26, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your quick attention re: Cardinal Newman High School I don't understand why you can't speeedily delete an article about a non-notable highschool? Its ummm, non notable. Why does it matter whether it will "go down a treat" (per your edit summary) or not? Its non-notable. I am baffled. "...one of the top 50 Catholic high schools in the nation, according to the Catholic High School Honor Roll." Yeah and its probably one of the top five in southern California with the word Cardinal in its name. Many thanks. -- Stroika 06:17, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Hey JzG, are you on-line for long? I just performed a history merge on Deafness but the restored edits are still in limbo, so I can't revert the self-direct I created; and I really want to go to bed. Can you get this? CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 09:34, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
I will cede to your better judgement here, since you seem to know something we don't. Hopefully all is OK and he will calm himself down. Badgerpatrol 09:52, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
If you are interested in my summary of the poll results, read User:Mbeychok/MRB's Survey of Wikipedian Engineers. - mbeychok 15:50, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
My problem with Badlydrawnjeff's temperament and stance is partially derivative. Tony Sidaway and I have had sometimes polite wheel wars over deletion in the past (and sometimes not polite), and, although I used to never allow a user's philosophy to influence a vote on RFA, I've had to rethink that. It's a matter of degree, of course. My experience with badlydrawnjeff has been that his fundamental philosophy is, "If it doesn't hurt, let it in," and on DRV he's argued from the topic of articles from time to time. Those both concern me, as the only way we can keep from personal animosity, I think, is a cold, nearly blind application of the standards we have. Advertising, for example, is a deletion guideline failure, whether it's of a minor and good thing or a big and wicked thing. Trivia is not encyclopedic, whether it's popular trivia or unpopular trivia. When I phrased it as "include/exclude," I meant it literally. I've come to the conclusion that the real question is, "Should it be in if there are no objections?" vs. "Should it be out if it isn't helpful to readers/users?" I tend to think that we should approach the project with the latter question: what do readers need, not what do writers want. It's a question of emphasis on the contributor versus the reader. At the same time, it's not what will the reader want, but what will the reader need or be aided by. Therefore, even though readers want to read the latest gab about the latest TV show, it won't inform them or help them negotiate the world around them. It's sort of empty calories. Anyway, my own view was that bdj had been too enthusiastic a "defender of articles" (which bothers me by itself, because it invokes that old "deletionist" language -- that there are people like me who hate articles (despite all the ones I write) and are picking on them, and they need defenders to protect their tender flesh from our nasty claws). I don't think bdj has crossed the line particularly, but I think that it would be deleterious to have more unilateralism and warring and theatrical "defense" and "attack" on contributors. Geogre 18:50, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
His statement that he would avoid XfD's was cheering, but I've had a lot of trouble with... certain admins. Then again, I have my own cranky ideas about the "de-admin" thing, too. (I think we should be talking about demotion, not "de-sysopping," and I'd like to think that we could make demotion and repromotion automatic and away from votes. E.g. demotion would result in restoration automatically unless the ArbCom (not RFA voters) saw a repeat of whatever got the demotion. A second demotion would automatically repeal after a bit longer. A third, a bit longer still. A fourth would be the real "de-admin" procedure, with a reapplication to RFA if restoration is desired.) (Told you they were cranky.) (They're also unpassable, because, to be policy, they need either top-down fiat from Jimbo or approval in votes, and people are so afraid of "admin power grabs" that anything that says ArbCom gets to restore priviledges (even though it presently can anyway) would go down in flames.) If we had a more flexible and less devastating procedure for limiting admin wars, I'd never dream of opposing for suspicion or fear and would need to see demonstrated bad behavior. I'm sorry that I'm at the place I am. Geogre 19:31, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
I have scaled the Reichtag buliding wearing a spiderman outfit. The proof is in the picture!
I LIVE IN YOUR EYES. Cazoo.
Dfrg.msc 08:30, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
agreed. dismissed.
I haven't gotten that deep with it yet, but this is my new favorite pet project. After doing the cite work and checking on things, (*yawn*), it was fairly apparent that the selected first article from the court action was not in fact the first article. I was simply too bored to care. :) Ste4k 14:15, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for weighing in on the Kelly Roberti dispute. It really helps to get some support. Whoever this Blastphemy or Miranda (notice, not a registered user) is, he or she refuses to sign with the four tildes, despite being told to do so in clear terms. And now, a more serious thing, he/she is engaging in real personal abuse. But, again, it helps to not have to fight these battles alone. Being attacked doesn't feel so bad then. Much appreciated! Alan W 01:58, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
JzG, on the Talk:ULTra_(PRT) page, you wrote:
"And ATE, you are right: I am nothing like a closed minded, arrogant, trigger-happy admin, else you and Skybum would be blocked..."
Might I ask on what grounds? I don't believe I've done anything to warrant anything but a short term block. I had some conflicts many months ago, and as for the personal attack on you, it was a mistake and I regret it. Do users get permanent bans for such small transgressions?
And even if you could get me banned, I certainly have seen nothing in Skybum's history to warrant a block. Not even close.
How can you make such a claim? Do you really believe that our actions have been so destructive that they would warrant an indefinite block, something that is reserved for only the worst of the worst vandals? If so, then go ahead and initiate the process; I have nothing to hide.
A Transportation Enthusiast 09:06, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia is supposed to be an encyclopedia. Since there is no article on me in Wikipedia or quotes in the PRT article or the PRT Talk page, it makes little sense to keep bringing my name up. If you want to trash me, I suggest you start a blog about me like your friend David Gow [7].Blogs are free at Blogger. Avidor 12:41, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Being new to this whole admin thing, I could use your opinion on the whole BenH thing. I really tried to give the guy the benefit of the doubt and assume good faith and all that. Now, I do think that some folks are thinking that they "own" the articles, but the lack of citing sources, the inappropriate addition of stub tags when it's obviously not a stub, and his lack of dialogue on all the matters has started to wear a bit thin. What do you think should be done? I don't think a permanent ban (as some are suggesting) is anywhere close to the right solution, but I don't think that doing nothing is the right thing to do either. Sue Anne 01:57, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
( Wikipedia:No climbing the Reichstag dressed as Spiderman)
I have threatened to climb the Reichstag, dressed up as and did so, became bollocked from editing for violating Wikipedia policy against climbing the Reichstag dressed as Spiderman, and then had it become an official policy on Wikipedia (and to be an official decree by the Supreme Cabal Regime of the English Wikipedia ( SCREW)). Is Absolutley fantasitic!. This is so great!
"In extreme cases editors may be tempted to climb the Reichstag building dressed as Spiderman in order to promote their cause. This is absolutely forbidden and can result in an indefinite block from editing Wikipedia."
This single event is a great example of all the good qualities of our beloved Wikipedia! Horay!
Thats what I love about this Wonderful, wonderful website.
Next stop: The Kremlin!
Thankyou!
Please see my comments there regarding your suggestion and if this AfD can be closed to consensus I can begin working on the merge. I think it's a good idea. I recently performed a similar merge for what appears to be your reasons on the page Marianne Williamson. If you wouldn't mind adding that to your watch list, I have already seen reasons for it to be monitored by a neutral source. Thanks. Ste4k 10:27, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
I've noticed since that you voted on that AfD, but I also spoke with tangotango and he advised to wait a full 5 days. If you know of anyone with some slave labor type jobs to do, let me know so I can occupy myself in the interim. It has been advised by a neutral party that I may be experiencing wiki-stress. I thought it was cute, but just the same, I could use a long list of easy but boring repetitive tasks to do (those are my favorite). I appreciate your comments and help. Ste4k 12:52, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Nevermind. I am so slow! :) I just saw the closure and will begin the merge. Thanks. Ste4k 12:54, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
I'll not make any links here to avoid reverses. I finished this merge and for the book found one reliable secondary and one reliable primary that named the original publisher. In any case, the merge is complete. I spent most of time researching everywhere I know, but found only article. He does appear to be able to meet WP:BIO in that gray area and I did my best to include that information especially. I also included one line about Course of Miracles since I am positive that it would be very upsetting to them if something wasn't included. It was a statement from Publisher's Weekly which is probably better than any directly related source. I would appreciate your comments on it, specifically anything it needs doing, and I'll make it worth my time to get those tasks done.
On the second subject, the publisher for that book (found out today actually it's a set of three) does not appear to be of a significant volume to be considered reputible itself. The main question that cannot therefore be verified in writing or anywhere else is if the words in the books are the same as the words that the lady wrote down in the first place. I am just going to walk away from it for awhile, there aren't any sources for it whatsoever in my opinion. I appreciate your backing up policy, if for no other reason than I didn't feel alone believing in it. Ste4k 18:30, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
I started from scratch, dug up three (rather than two) of the Court case files and wrote this article. It is all completely from the court case, tells the whole story, and guess what? All of those groups ARE the same people, it explains it, and none of them have rights to anything about the book anymore. Imagine that! Wow, what a surprise. The article doesn't even coin the acronym ACIM. Anyhow, I'd appreciate it if you'd give it a once over, make some comments, etc., but basically, this one article could replace about six to eight others that are all over [Category:A_Course_In_Miracles ]. Most of them have AfD's now that want a merge, but they don't really say where, specifically. ;) And there are two others, specifically the Endeavor Academy and the guy who runs it, that I would AfD in a heartbeat but I don't want to have anymore of the AGF accusations. Just say the word, and I'll do whatever you think needs doing. :) Ste4k 12:01, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
If you are to make massive deletions from this article, some explanations in talk would be appreciated. ≈ jossi ≈ t • @ 13:52, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
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The Surreal Barnstar | |
For your effort to keep the Reichstag Spiderman-free, I award you this barnstar after laughing my arse off. Zoz (t) 14:31, 29 June 2006 (UTC) |
Marianne Williamson is an internationally acclaimed author
talented came from her singing career which I thought would probably be better left as one word.
Also, per checking that facts during the rewrite, this lady turned out to be a lot bigger than I had ever imagined. From the article it replaced, the best I could imagine was some talk show guest on Oprah. Nelson Mandelah knows about this lady. ( ! ) Ste4k 19:16, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for adding the pertaining userbox to my userpage; it is much appreciated...now I'll be spending more time patrolling the Reichstag then wiki. Cheers. :)))) Lectonar 07:09, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
this is great! Its like bloody Mensa at drinking hour in here! Steven Hawking is buying the next round! Yeah!
Dfrg.msc 08:50, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Can i join your order of rogue admin. Can you rig the admin election so i get in?
Cheese please?
PS lose weight now ask me how!
F 22 09:44, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
This edit removed my nomination from MfD. I assume it wasn't deliberate but please take care. -- A Y Arktos\ talk 12:34, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for doing that. Cheers -- Pak21 12:37, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that you added another proposed issue to the RfM for The Great Authorship of A Course in Miracles Kerfluffle. It's a worthwhile issue, but is it appropriate to modify an RfM after the parties have already agreed to it? It certainly seems appropriate to suggest additional issues to the parties involved, but actually modifying the RfM at that point seems like something that might best be left to the parties and the mediator. (And I admit to being a bit surprised that the parties agreed to the RfM as it was. :) ) Kickaha Ota 14:05, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Please take the trouble to identify precisely what problems exist within these articles, and detail what needs to be done to fix thewm, in neutral terms. Avoid baiting, or being baited by, Andrew or anyone else. If the content cannot be sourced and verified it will eventually be removed, but there is no deadline. I am as vehemently opposed to the abuse of Wikipedia to promote commerical enterprises as anyone, but I don't really have time to research this in depth. Remember: reliable secondary sources independent of the movement are what is needed, for both support and criticism. Just zis Guy you know? 18:17, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Please see text near the bottom here: The thick part has many links. Ste4k 14:07, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
I think that you have protected the wrong version of
Falkland Islands. Moreover, you participated in the edit warring before protecting it. That means you were personally involved in the matter. Please, unprotect the page or be de-sysopped.
ackoz
15:26, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
(reset indent) I tried to follow it but then I lost it. Thx, contacting Jimbo right away.
ackoz
15:54, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your support for my recent RfA, which I'm quite happy to announce has passed with a consensus of 67 supporting, 0 opposed and 0 neutral. I'm glad I meet your criteria. Most of all, I'm glad you took the time to evaluate my candidacy, as I believe that's what keeps RfA running smoothly, and I'll be working hard to justify the vote of confidence you've placed in me. Please let me know at my talk page if you have any comments on my performance as an admin. Thanks! TheProject 02:32, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Well, it appears he made another edit without replying to the RfC or the comments on his talk page. Just wanted to let you know. — Whomp [ T] [ C 21:18, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Hello JzG, unfortunately it appears that the "policy" image may go the way of the Dodo. I informed Dfrg.msc about it... but from looking at his talk page I have a sneaking suspicion that he doesn't know how the system works. Not sure what can be done about this... but I thought you should be aware of the situation. Take it easy. Netscott 01:10, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Since you are looking into this, I have the following suggestion:
I have written an article that is factual based on the court records that includes only information about the book and is written NPOV. A Course in Miracles (book)
If the factions are based on opinion about the court case, there is another AfD that I have put up regarding that, which is receiving little attention and trying to support WP:SCHOOL which was refused as a guideling. Please see, this discussion .
This should leave three or four decent-sized articles, once the cruft and unverifiable / uncited commentary is pruned out.
Just zis Guy you know?
11:39, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Attempting to edit anything in either of the articles about the book has only led to anonymous/vandal/edit warring. Trying to establish any sort of mutual understanding in discussion has led to "We have more editors than you" sorts of reasoning. Ste4k 11:51, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
LOL, I just looked and the new article that merges is getting an AfD. 11:59, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the move on Empire of Atlantium.
I am not a sysop because I haven't got enough life bandwidth to go RC or CVU (other than what wanders through pages I edit and watch) and only end up needing to ask an admin for help with something once a month or so these days. It would be moderately useful, but hasn't bugged me enough to be necessary. And there are still people out there who claim to oppose any nominee with less than 2,500 edits, and I am only just about to break 2k... I don't know, if people think I'd be doing useful stuff with it with my bandwidth, I'd go for it, but I can't commit to being a super-active janitor. Georgewilliamherbert 09:18, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm not entirely clear what the function of an admin is - but I thought it was to be balanced and fair. What part have I got wrong? SilkTork 13:31, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Satchel Cohen - do it, Guy! :) - CrazyRussian talk/ email 16:19, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charles Buell Anderson After nominating these two pages for deletion, some questions were asked by another admin. I researched deeper into these articles and found that they are basically attack pages in disguise as a bio. I have spoken to one other admin in IRC. But, I thought I should let you know what's up. The admin who initially was asking questions is named Will Beback. I left him a note on his page as well, and also there is some discussion in talk pages of the article and the AfD. Ste4k 17:42, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Hey -- saw your note on WP:AN, and I looked into this a bit. After doing some brief searching, I found a couple of articles criticizing the ABD for distorting facts to their benefit. See [9] and [10] (pdf), in addition to the source about membership claims that's already there. I don't know if sources can be found for all the criticism that was here before, but if not, I think these sources still give a general picture. We have to strike a balance between responsibly describing the criticism and yet not doing investigative reporting. I think if there's an ABD central claim that a primary source directly and obviously refutes, that could be included without a secondary source. This is sort of what that big table on car ownership rates is doing. But picking off individual claims in order to paint a general picture of the organization is too much OR for my taste. Anyway. Condolences about your sister, and thanks for your support vote in my RFA. Mango juice talk 19:29, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
If you have a moment, I'd appreciate you reviewing my comment at the bottom of this AfD. Thanks. Ste4k 16:02, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
I see that you were the admin responsible for closing the old Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Sharp debate. I happened to note that the Michael Sharp article has been recreated and I don't think this has gone through any sort of undeletion process. I proded the article but the tag has been removed by user:Ginar who had created the original article. So I thought I would just relist it for AfD but of course I can't because I'm not supposed to edit the previous AfD debate! Anyways, I think it's a pretty clear cut of speedy delete. If not, please let me know how to proceed to re-nominate for deletion. Thanks. Pascal.Tesson 02:38, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
The article can't be speedy deleted after it was recreated. It was recreated by an specialist on occult/spiritual authors user:Boboroshi whereas user:Pascal.Tesson is a mathematician and is probably just expressing a personal bias against. Also the prod said if you disagreed with the prod for any request then the article would remain. user:Boboroshi needs to provide some sort of justification for wanting the article deleted especially since its been recreated by a specialist in the field Ginar
Jeez, thx for assuming good faith. As I said above I'm open to submitting this to the usual AfD process, except I can't because there already is an existing debate. Pascal.Tesson 02:59, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
my apologies fellow Canuck. My point, the article was recreated by someone who specializes in editing occult literature. Because of that I think its worthwhile assuming good faith on the part of the person who recreated. Also, the prod said if you disagree for any reason, remove the prod. My sense, and I could be wrong, is that the recreation of an article tends to add weight to the notion that the article deserves to be in wikepedia. I know I read that somewhere but can't remember where. Ginar 03:04, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Morgen because its barely more than a sentance with some links also. In fact, maybe we should devise a word limit filter any any article that shows less than say 100 words can be automatically deleted. only seems fair Ginar 16:44, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
I don't think Cyde's block was very fair, as I checked the disruption clause and it actaully states that users will usually be warned before being blocked, so why wasn't I, given that I am an established user. Myrtone
You reverted my revert on The Game (game) with the edit summary Actually, Flemish is not Dutch. There are dialectic differences. Tell a Fleming that he is Dutch and see how far it gets you :-). Of course Flemings are not Dutch any more than Austrians are German or Americans are English, but I'd maintain that they speak Dutch. To quote from Flemish (linguistics):
Assuming the above is correct (and if you don't think it is, perhaps you should say so), would you be amenable to reverting it back again? Even if it is correct to call the dialects in question Flemish, I'd be almost certain (with the caveat that I don't speak Dutch myself) that the language of De Morgen is indistinguishable from that of a paper printed in the Netherlands. -- Blisco 19:00, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your good work keeping an eye on it. :) Sebastian Kessel Talk 00:04, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Just so you know, I have just reverted our old friend Gibraltarian. It didn't take long for him to come back on the scene. Vilĉjo 12:23, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
You nominated a pair of articles by User:HayMeadows to AFD today with an "is there an echo here"? type comment on the second.
http://www.haymeadows.com/links/seo-link-exchange.htm Demonstrates that there is a company by that name involved in search engine optimization. One of the two companies you AFD nominated is specifically listed as an SEO client. I'm not sure what more to do, so I'm alerting you. GRBerry 03:51, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
It now seems Feedyourfeet ( talk · contribs) is insisstent on blanking part of their talk page. So, it would be pointless of me to continue to revert. So, perhaps, as an admin, you could decide either a) let-it-be or b) not allow it. This is really a grey area for me, as this user hasn't done anything really horrible. But, the blanked comments were, IMO, about a item worth keeping for future reference (e.g. PRODing with Edit Summaries). -- Rob 07:05, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
If you provide a policy i will be happy to abide by it. Other wise i dont see how i am breaking any rules. Feedyourfeet 07:44, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Dear JzG,
In case you may be interested, the nomination for deletion of the
A Course In Miracles (book) article, in which you placed a comment, has been resumed by myself. The nomination had been closed after only two days, and thus instead of submitting a new nomination, I have reopened the old discussion. Thanks for your interest and comment(s) on this discussion thus far.
- Scott P. 11:25, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi there:
I just came to your talk page to thank you for your support of my RfA, and I came across your tragedy. I am so sorry; I cannot imagine what I would do if something similar happened to me. I hope that you and your family are doing alright and that your grief is becoming bearable.
— DLJessup ( talk) 03:45, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not a playground, your nonsensical edits to article space should now stop. Just zis Guy you know? 14:38, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Dfrg.msc 06:51, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
I would appreciate it if you could weigh in on the recent changes to mystical experience. It appears Vaquero100 ( talk · contribs) has simply imported Catholic Encyclopedia text with little to no formatting. That being problematic in itself, I don't consider that the main issue (or reason enough to revert). However, there is already an article on mysticism in general, then an article on Christian mysticism. Maybe there is enough information about Roman Catholic mysticism to warrent its own article, but at the very least, the name of the article should be changed. It seems very biased the the phrase "mystical experience" should point to an article about Catholic mysticism instead of mysticism in general. What do you think?-- Andrew c 17:34, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
I think I screwed up with regard to how I entered this data, so I am deleting this entry and re-entering it in a different way. Sorry.
Davidkevin 23:03, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
FYI, I've received this [11] and have replied on Anchor434's talk page. Tyrenius 20:47, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
That's pretty funny... it's good to have a link to that case leading from that discussion. Don't let me be a bad influence on you now and start going around calling people "idiots". LOL!. ( → Netscott) 15:46, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Please remove your personal attack otherwise I will report you to Wikipedia:Personal_attack_intervention_noticeboard. Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on the contributor; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Raphael1 18:40, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
If you are posting on talk pages, asking experienced editors to give their opinion on an issue, make sure not to use language that may suggest bias.
Good: "Hey, Bob, could you tell me what you think about this discussion? I think your input could help"
I am using the exact copy from the survey guideline in order not to get accused/blocked for recruiting. Could you please check the discussion there, Bob?
85.70.5.66 08:00, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Ahem. I noticed that you gave a vote of "Keep" on the AfD for There Is No Cabal. I'm attempting to get my point across that, when discussing the history of Usenet, FAQs from the period should be acceptable as primary sources (attempting to apply common sense to this guideline). I've fired off an email to the original maintainer of the FAQ asking him to provide evidence that he, in fact, authored the FAQ, hoping it would help. Could you provide some policy advice that might support the "Keep" view, to help me organize my response? I have an intuition that there's a very, very good reason not to delete, and it's frustrating me to the point that I'm not certain I can keep that frustration from spilling out into the discussion. Captainktainer * Talk 10:27, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
I have restored this talk page. WP:CSD G8 says "unless they contain deletion discussion that isn't logged elsewhere". That applies here. -- Sam Blanning (talk) 11:29, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi JzG.... Template:User Jimbo v. Willy has been moved to User:Ikiroid/User Jimbo v. Willy. The original template space name was salted with {{ deletedpage}}, but an administrator forgot to add the <noinclude> tabs around the template, so now a bunch of userpages have a WP:SALT notices. Could you either fix this formatting error, or better yet, replace it with {{GUS UBX to|Jimbo v. Willy|Ikiroid/User Jimbo v. WIlly}}? Thanks.-- The ikiroid ( talk· desk· Advise me) 13:56, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
I have just been blocked from editing by you. May I ask why, and also why you were so rude in your message in telling me this?
User:Theoriginaldesperatehousewife 18:02, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
I was aware that it was not on the German version of Wikipedia and was intending to get my husband to do it, (he speaks german), as I wouldn't have the first idea what on earth it was talking about. I would like to point out, their is NO heir listed. As to the apparent recurrence of the name 'Stefan', it is according to my source,, "The Holy Roman Empire" by Viscount Bryce, correct. The heir to the Schwarzenberg throne is called Stefan. However if you are unable to accept this I think it would be a shame. here is the amazon link The Holy Roman Empire by Viscount Bryce
User:Theoriginaldesperatehousewife 19:04, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
After my edit the category is blue-linked, I did not only "reinsert", I made it work. An invisible character was present between "s" and "]", which I removed by retyping the sequence entirely. Circeus 20:06, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Good call. If anyone argues with you, I've got your back. Tom e r talk 20:10, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Um. What's this about User:Theoriginaldesperatehousewife creating nothing but bollocks? It's all garbage and lies? All of it? DS 23:51, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Careful, he bites.
Please see my comments in discussion on Forgiveness. Thanks. Ste4k 15:43, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the opinion, just one note. I am a lady, in case you weren't aware. :) Ste4k 17:08, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
No biggie, something about "steaks" and "beef" and "real men" I guess. The nickname actually comes from way back when I mentioned to some guy at work that he treated women like "steak on a meathook". My friends never let me live that down. :) Just another note, (slightly humorous I hope), the quote I listed above in that section on forgiveness comes from the KKK. (ouch!) The KKK is certainly a larger organization with more history about it, and as far as mentioning "cults", etc., it seemed to me to be an obvious choice; i.e. if the other editors really believe that this section is "balanced" then they should be mentioning other more easily and readily identifiable organizations which are not already included in the article. Their reasoning, though, is that the curriculum the Course is ideocentric around "forgiveness". I just do not see the notability here to justify the inclusion, however. It seems to me that by including this group into the "forgiveness" article, it does more to "establish" the group (i.e. advertise) than it does to rely upon the actual curriculum of the Course. Looking at the layout of the article, as you mentioned, we have "Bhuddism, Christianity, Judism, Islam, . . . ACIM" (????) The imbalance is very clear to me, especially since that particular acronym is used as a brand name. Ste4k 17:19, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
This made me laugh. :) You missed one -- first word, second sentence. Ste4k 17:30, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi JzG, Another admin, the closer of the AfD of the article that I had started has decided to keep the talk page. Please see: User_talk:Mangojuice#curious
I believe that the page falls under the criteria of WP:CSD#General_criteria item number 8. I don't wish to be disrespectful to the other admin, but I don't believe he understands this topic very much. Could you take a look please? Ste4k 19:21, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Please see Talk:A_Course_in_Miracles#Request_for_comment_suggestion. I hope that I correctly voiced your earlier concern. Ste4k 21:52, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:Mboverload&oldid=63151155#How_dare_you.
I am finished here until something is done about admins ganging up on people and playing WP:POINT games because they haven't anything else better to do. You have my e-mail address. I am so upset right now that I won't say anything more. Thanks for all that you did to help in the few days I got to know you. Ste4k 02:00, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Hope you didn't mind my giving you a bit of a hard time on the AfD -- it was meant in good fun. I also forgot that you're an admin and could have protected them yourself, otherwise I woulda just recommended that you do that.
Peace, and keep up the good work :) - Che Nuevara: Join the Revolution 14:25, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Out of curiosity arising from an old edit of Chevrolet Caprice, if it's not too much trouble I would like to see what briefly resided under the heading Slaughter of 1997. Apparently it refers to a General Motors corporate schism of some sort. TIA. (and thanks for the move—I shouldn't be on Wiki before coffee!) Scheinwerfermann 14:44, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
In fairness to Sean, he already was chastized shortly after doing it, per this edit from JoanneB.
Also, on a separate note ... I read your page about your sister which is linked to at the top of this page. With losses of that magnitude, my powers of expression pretty much fail me; I can only say that despite not knowing you well, or knowing your sister, I truly regret and sorrow for your loss, and that is a testament not only to the spirit of your sister but of how beautifully you wrote about her. — Mike ( talk • contribs) 15:06, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
I've just put a db-repost tag on Acadame N. Acadame north and Acadame North are already protected. User:Acadamenorth seems determined to keep trying. Fan-1967 15:29, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
I seriously doubt he will be able to respond to Talk pages and his RfC coherently. Please keep him blocked. Please, please, please, please, please. -- CFIF (talk to me) 23:08, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Hey Guy, I came across the nomination you made thru the whole debacle on the incident board. It seems like consensus for the article is going the way of keep...I encourage you to find someone to close this afd. I understand your impulse to delete a problematic article, to tell you the truth, I may have put it up for afd in the same situation......but if the topic was non-notable, I assume Jimbo would have gone ahead and speedied it in order to avoid more problems, but I'm guessing he kept it for a reason.I was going to put up a request for an early close on ANI, but I wanted your input first.-- The ikiroid ( talk· desk· Advise me) 01:16, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
reference: User:Streamless
i humbly submit that it's silly to delete the entire lists because of verifiability or mistakes. anyone with an ear can verify whether a song is in triple meter or not. also, if there is a mistake in a page, it seems better to correct the mistake than to delete the entire page. i submit that a lack of "consensus" is being used as a pretext for a majority of admins who don't care about songs in triple meter to delete a page that song signature geeks care about. please undelete the page, or use your influence to have it undeleted. thank you. Streamless 14:15, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Guy, since you have been working with this editor, could you please give a third opinion on the matter in dispute here? Thank you. KWH 06:50, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
considered and rejected at template talk, not so much for transclusion / server strain / disk space reasons, as for ease of finding though whatlinkshere and some meta mumbo-jumbo I do not understand. This is the proposed solution. - CrazyRussian talk/ email 15:57, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
I am a lawyer in London who for over 20 years was an active member of the Conservative Monday Club, which actually had a Legal Policy Group, as there were so many lawyers in the Club. You know, the sort of lawyers you sneer at so competantly. I want you to know that I have finally written to Gregory Lauder-Frost, and his Edinburgh solicitors, offering my services gratis. I have included several pages of comments made by Mr Chilvers as well as you which we have managed to catalogue which demonstrate very clear malice and an absolute contempt of UK law, which any judge would find, hands down. You clearly think you know better than the legal profession and that when people approach us for our advice, or instruct us, that we give them worthless service. I suggest you think again. Scum like you do abound as is evidenced here. You're not above the law and you live here. I am urging Mr Lauder-Frost and his lawyers to move against you as well as Chilvers. 82.133.83.209 16:30, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
I appreciate your comments -- and yes, I am generally persistant. But -- AOL as internet provider is not my choice. My employer pays for my home computer and internet, and so allows me to work a solid portion of my time from home. Their other "choice" of provider is not available in our neighborhood. But, working at home has allowed me to deal with some serious illnesses in our family and to be available in emergencies. A great blessing. So, Wikipedia problems, while irritating, is not a deal breaker for me. Hopefully the programmers here will continue to address the block issues. Best wishes. WBardwin 18:32, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm criticizing Wikipedia on the Criticism of Wikipedia page. What's the problem? Stop breathing down my neck. - Advocron 23:37, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Why is it that you deleted the whole WP: NCR history posting? It may have been vanity, but it was also the response to a question which you have happily deleted. If you think it is bias and untrue, then change it Mr. Trigger-Happy, I have invited you to do as such once already. Is not all History vanity?
Dfrg.msc 02:25, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
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Changed it to no reason for blocks. Hope that's ok. Cheers -- Samir धर्म 07:17, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Please review the recent actions of 172.144.114.109 ( talk · contribs) (and similarly related edits from the 172 AOL IP net) -- I have temporarily blocked this user for trolling and disruption, it appears that this person has some sort of grudge against User:Elonka, and the editing style is rather curious. Seeing as you were the only person who voted to userfy or delete the Elonka Dunin article months ago on AFD, I am confident you can assist with this situation in a fair and balanced manner. :-) Can't sleep, clown will eat me 09:18, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Debate is at User talk:Socafan#Armstrong.
Please stop this as well as your condescending attitude towards other editors. Socafan 11:54, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
You've got mail. ( → Netscott) 15:04, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads-up - but I knew I would be reported, and after weighing the situation thoroughly, was willing to take that risk. I find it only too odd that one contributor would break the WP:3RR rule in using a sockpuppet, then report another who didn't. When I posted I had 'only' 99% certainty of this, but since I see that the other 1% has been confirmed by this contributor's refusal to respond to this evidence (in aiming his attack elsewhere). I know that even with my convictions and the proof of the error reverted to I should not have crossed the line, and for this I am sorry - but such situations should not even exist, especially for things so easily verifiable and corrected.
If you have followed anything on the Talk:Paris pages, you will see that problems such as these have been going on for over a year now. I am unsure on how (or on what complaint) I can begin proceedings to end this seeming personal vendetta and constant hassle, but would appreciate advice if you have any to offer. THEPROMENADER 13:26, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, I'm not really interested in the subject. I just hoped to defuse the situation a little. Maurreen 14:30, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
I will be trying to deal with requests and issues that go to JzG for the indefinite future. I may not be able to deal with all of them, since I am not nearly as experienced or prolific an editor as JzG. I'll try to check his talk page a few times a day, but if something needs urgent attention, an email to me and/or a message on my talk page will probably work better. JoshuaZ 01:38, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Count me in too of course, with the same caveats. My sincere condolences to Guy at this time - sigh. -- kingboyk 02:34, 21 May 2006 (UTC) Guy just received a templated newsletter, which I have moved to User talk:JzG/Temp 1. I suggest moving all low-importance content to that subpage to keep this one clear. He can move/delete/archive it as he sees fit upon his return. -- kingboyk 02:54, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Anything I can do to help? JzG is "good people"... condolences, and hope all works out well in the end for you Guy... + + Lar: t/ c 03:26, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
My condolences to JzG. Stephen B Streater 07:58, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
JzG, you are in my thoughts and prayers during this difficult time. A Transportation Enthusiast 12:30, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Guy: I'm praying for you and yours. "May your God be with you." - Arie. AvB ÷ talk 12:46, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
JoshuaZ et al., if I can help (as a non-admin) I'll gladly make time for it. AvB ÷ talk 12:46, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Condolences Guy. All the best. Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 03:38, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Take care, mate. Condolences. NSL E ( T+ C) at 03:50 UTC ( 2006-05-23)
My condolences to you. All the best. -- Ter e nc e Ong 12:08, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Condolences from me and mine as well, JzG. I'll be glad to help out with anything. RasputinAXP c 20:02, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm sorry to see that. Waiting is. Midgley 03:05, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi JzG,
I hope your wikibreak is going well. I will be very grateful if a kind administrator posted the contents of the deleted userboxes Drug-free, atheist, evolution2, evol-N and antiuserboxdeletion at a subpage of my userpage for userification. Thanks. Loom91 06:49, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I've added and deleted some material with a view to giving the article more balance - unsurprisingly, that's being disputed. I feel input from a neutral and level-headed editor is needed at this stage. If you could take a look at the recent history and make some suggestions I'd appreciate it. Thanks, Dlyons493 Talk 19:53, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
Tuatafa Hori was not a fake, and was not proved as such. She was deleted simply because she was suspected, and is now under protection so that she cannot be created again. The book was a proper source. They found some Myspace things that mentioned her so they assumed that she was a hoax, however, that is no basis for that type of assumption. I have a friend whos screen name is that of a historical queen, but does that mean that she made up that particular queen? I just don't think this particular issue was given enough credit-- they just wanted to get rid of it. 72.144.223.101 14:01, 30 May 2006 (UTC) (reposted by me from archive page - RasputinAXP c 15:06, 30 May 2006 (UTC))
This article has been recreated in a different format. You discussed the deletion of a previous version; please comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Possible wars between liberal democracies; it may be that this version is less POV. Septentrionalis 21:02, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
What does the British Flag have to do with Admin-ship? And how is that Quality Vandalism? Livin' Large 12:24, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
It sounds like you're complaining about RFCs in general, rather than commenting on this one in particular. No RFC has ever helped build an encyclopedia- I thought this was obvious. RFCs are used in those unfortunate circumstances when there's a problem. So far, a good number of people have found Tony Sidaway's behavior to be disruptive to building that great encyclopedia- hence the RFC. Hope this helps. Friday (talk) 17:41, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello friends. I have just been catching up on a couple of things, I will be back at least to some degree but not as active as before, or at least not for a while. There has been a life-changing event.
My sister, 21 months younger than me, died on 20 May. The cause is not a state secret but I'm not really ready to talk about it here right now. I was there when she died, and I can safely say that was the worst moment of my life (and presumably hers, though fortunately she was well out of it by the end). What with helping to organise the funeral, actually managing to get the kids on holiday, driving back from Baie du Somme to Hertfordshire for the day to see her off, and the complete emotional exhaustion the whole thing has caused - to say nothing of having to find the money to buy my other sister a car with brakes - things are feeling pretty stragnge right now.
My sincere thanks to all who have sent supportive messages, and to those who have picked up the many loose ends I left dangling. I'll be back to work next week, and will be looking to make some contributions to the project soon. Just zis Guy you know? 17:58, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm just interesting about your ID. Is your ID JzG just for abbreviation? Please, Reply on my talk-page. Thanks. Just ask you for about your ID. '''*Daniel*''' 03:35, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
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On DRV, you said that List of tongue-twisters should be restored because it was deleted at Wikibooks. It has however, also been transwiki'd to Wikiquote, where it has not (yet) been deleted. - Splash - tk 20:33, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm notifying you because you voted recently at Wikipedia:Deletion review#List of tongue-twisters. Since your vote, additional information (merely, the fact that the content was transwikied to Wikiquote) has emerged. I'd therefore like to ask you to revise (or confirm) your vote in light of this additional information. Thank you, and sorry for bothering you about his. — Ilmari Karonen ( talk) 21:27, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I think you're right. Next steps? Someday you need to share your method with me of getting confirmation. FeloniousMonk 15:49, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
First, I am not a sock puppet (I assume you mean Jason). Second, I have to figure out how to file a complaint with Wikipedia. I am amazed that I am providing factual information and you call it a "white wash". The article says LBU makes false accreditation claims. They do not. It says degrees by Life experience, they do not. I have made the challenge to show me several times and NO ONE has done so. When I edited I left the good and bad in there. LBU is at least honest. This article is dishonest and you have an obvious bias that means deleting material that does not serve your interest. I provided facts, you nothing. In arbitration your assertions will not stand up. LBU catalogue clearly says...we are not accredited, you are unlikely to become a certified teacher...you will not be able to obtain counselor certifcation, etc. What you and the folks who dislike LBU and refuse to at least present factual unbiased information are doing is essentially bullying. It is also dishonest.
Nordundsud 18:46, 7 June 2006 (UTC)Nordundsud
The fact that you think I am a sock puppet is amusing and to me (unprovable) demonstrates a shocking lack of intuition. I know who Jason is because about 95% of anything negative I ever saw about LBU was due to his interactions with others. Don't know what to make of him (strange run for Governor of Calfornia and even stranger concession speech). Not to mention the fact that although I am going to a fundamentalist school I am not a fundamentalist (enjoy reading Spong & Borg). As an FYI, I have three accredited degree (BA thru doctorate).
My editing, was in order to get factual information in. I don't mind having in there that some have accused LBU of being a mill. I do mind wierd assertions like LBU is a mill because they claim false accreditation or offer Life Credit Degrees. Utter unsupportable nonsense. That is why no one could support those assertions with references. To leave that in the article is wrong.
LBU is among the most honest unaccredited schools in terms of saying so several times and noting that because they do not have accreditation you will not likely become a certified teacher and will not qualify for mental health licensure.
As a side note, not all unaccredited schools are mills. They do have some large limitations in terms of their use as you note in your latest edit. You may want to read Bear's Guide. Dr. Bear has worked with the FBI to sting diploma mills and is the foremost expert in distance education. I think he is currently on Gov. Schwarzenegger's Board that deals with education.
Your last edits that I read were fine and honest. Thank you!
Nordundsud 19:10, 7 June 2006 (UTC)Nordundsud
Gastrich posted briefly on a distance education forum board that I frequent and it was a strange experience. He did not hold up well and left. That was my first encounter. Searched his page and could not believe he was serious about himself. His concession speech was quite bizarre and written as if he were a major contender for Governor of California. At any rate, education and accreditation issues are hobbies of mine and subjects that I am very...very familiar with. We have people on these education boards pursuing degrees from the University of London to the University of Zululand. I certainly always recommend accredited institutions due to versality (etc.). With Australian and South African degrees (accredited) being so affordable there is little point in pursuing unaccredited degrees. Unaccredited schools do serve a certain constituency. In the US there are some fundamentalist schools like Pensacola Christian that will not have anything to do with the government. The BBFI is a fundamentalist Baptist group (some of whom see the Southern Baptist Convention as too liberal). You are correct that terminology is interesting because you use the term "American Baptist", they are actually a variety of Baptist (rather liberal) that would probably not have anything to do with the BBFI. The openly homosexual preacher and chair holder at Princeton, Peter Gomes, is an American Baptist. He probably won't be appearing at any of the BBFI college commencement ceremonies any time soon. The very conservative BBFI theological stand espoused by LBU is probably one reason that Attorney General Ashcroft was a commencemnt speaker there. Ashcroft was a very conservative Christian (Bush's first Attorney General).
At any rate, I see you are Anglican. I grew up as an Anglican (wonderful English grandmother). One of my degrees is from a Commonwealth country and the other two accredited degrees are American. Miss my grandmother's Roast beef & Yorkshire pudding, bubble and squeak, sheperd's pie, plum pudding, etc. Still drink black indian tea with milk though.
Nordundsud 03:28, 8 June 2006 (UTC)Nordundsud
A request has been made to remove the domain fisheaters.com from the spam blacklist [1]. As you are the one that requested it be listed, I'd appreciate it if you could provide a reason why I should or should not remove it. Thanks Naconkantari 22:18, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Your comments on the nature of the page spurred me to start an AfD nom. Comment here if you like. Marskell 16:13, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello,
An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Raphael1. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Raphael1/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Raphael1/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Johnleemk | Talk 11:35, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
Sandstein has requested that his page not be cluttered with whatever dispute you may have with me.
By the way, I read both the MPOV and Tigers pages with keen interest. Both of these are rather insightful articles. I found it rather amazing how closely the criteria for inclusion into either category resembles just four of the more than twenty posters who've provided well-stated, clear, concise, and most importantly, qualified comments, both positive and negative, to my articles. It's nice to know that so few Wiki editors fall into these categories. Sadly, the four who did fall into one or more categories are apparently unaware that that they do, or that disagreement is healthy, provided the discussion remains civil, threats or invitations to leave (very uncivil) remain absent, and the focus centers around the details and quality of the article, rather than degenerating childishly into who's right or wrong. These simple rules of debate can be learned in any high school.
Of particular note were the very polite and well-crafted suggestions at the bottom of the Tiger's article. Unfortunately, I've seen very few suggestions resembling those in the comments, most disturbingly, including among a few admins. I also loved the the following statement on the MPOV article: "Upon reading this list, you are convinced that most of the people you deal with are suffering from MPOV." Sadly, I cannot lay claim to this thought, as I've only found about four of more than twenty posters to whom this applies, and then only on topics which are highly controversial in more conservative circles. The other topics I've created, or edited, to which I apply the same care, thankfull remain free of uncivility, personal attacks, etc. Who was it who said, "The best example you can provide is the one you put forth yourself?" On second thought, I could use a good polishing, too. Always room for improvement! Dr1819 19:25, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
I've been following the discussions on sigs and I remember you saying something about shortening your name to JzG to make editing talk pages simpler. I'm thinking of having a new signature and am looking at requirements:
To keep the signature short in edit mode, I'll need a new login name as this would be referred to twice - once each for the user page and the talk page. SS is gone, as is St, but as both my names start with St, I was thinking about: S t2
The "S" represents me and links to my user page, the "t" links to my talk page. The "t" is a bit short to click on, and "St" could be confused with the (inactive) user of that name. As both my names start with St, the "2" solves both problems.
I'm planning to wait until after my RfA, but wondered if there were any logistical issues in transferring everything over to a new id. Would I need a bureaucrat to help, for example? And of course, if it's a bad idea, the next few weeks would be a good time to mention it ;-) Stephen B Streater 21:22, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
An RfC has been opened concerning Dr1819s behavior surrounding men's fashion articles. Since you have been involved in discussing his behavior on these articles, you may wish to certify the dispute or add your thoughts on the issue. Thanks. Shell babelfish 01:27, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
I've got a meeting right now and will be back later. [2]. Stephen B Streater 11:29, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
The AfD looks like it could be headed to majority delete but not consensus delete and thus kept (say 65% del). This is in some ways the worst outcome. Disinterested editors have rightly said get it out of here, while a handful of people into astrology will veto deletion. Is there anywhere it can be brought up, say with editors who work on a lot of science articles? The RfC pages generate little and it doesn't seem right to bring up an AfD at the sci Help Desk.
I realize I'm sort of asking "how can we game the system" but at the same time it strikes me as a good example of an article that if seen by long-term editors would certainly get shot down for violating all three content policies in ample measure. Marskell 12:58, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the support – Gurch 17:30, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
Meh, it's not really just problems as much as stress that would hinder Wikipedia, so I'm taking a brief side-step for the benefit of the project. And don't worry about BB Sinha, I acted rash and that was not approate (I think I spelt that wrong). I have just followed that article and had been urging the creator to bring sources, and well he said he had a photocopy, but I think he gave up. To be honest, I don't know the true extent of his humanitarian efforts, I saw Paul Farmer speak and it was fascinating, but I learned that 97% of humanitarians don't get recognized, because...well, of the field they work in. Thank you, again for all you concerns and you are an awesome admin! Yanksox 18:31, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
I replied on Robertsteadman's talk page. He is Robsteadman, and has been unblocked per a discussion on AN a month or so ago per conditions held in my userspace linked from Robertsteadman's talk page. Syrthiss 15:17, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
[3] [4]. Some of the legal points looks quite interesting, but I don't think he's come across WP:NPOV. Stephen B Streater 17:46, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Guy, one of my favorite editors Herostratus is being eaten alive on his Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Herostratus. Please see my comment and support if you think it is wise. I think that you are familar with Sam's the out of process deletion of the image on Lolicon article and likely understand the complexity of the decision. I think Herostratus is being unfairly portrayed by some oppose voters on that topic. FloNight talk 19:02, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Do you mind having a look at User:Stanfordandson? He started an account today, made his first main space edit to Gay Nigger Association of America, and then decided to troll (in my very honest opinion) the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Objective validity of astrology page. I've actually been reported at 3RR for the first time! Though I seem to only have made three... Marskell 22:04, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi there! I am leaving you a note to ask you to clarify something. Per your edit summary, are you calling my "oppose" vote or my opinion on the topic of snarking "perverse"? Thanks and have a great day - Aguerriero ( talk) 14:46, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
My Request for Adminship passed with flying colors (54/6/1), and I thank you for supporting me. I aspire to continue being a "Good Guy" in my adminship duties. Sometimes, "Good Guy"s can make bad decisions, and it is in that respect that I ask for your help. If you ever find me doing anything out of the ordinary, please let me know. Thanks again for your support, Ian Manka Talk to me! 00:44, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
It's not as clear as your statement suggests. I have no intention of prelonging a revert war on WP:ANI. At the same time, I think what he was doing to my comments - seperating them from what I was commenting upon - was uncool, and he refused to explain it. If I'd reverted them, there's no guarantee I wouldn't myself have been reported. Perhaps you'd have called that report frivolous, perhaps not. How should I know? I do know that I find such talk page behavior maddening, and that it's a drag having to revert just to keep one's comments in their intended context. If this report solves this issue, great. Netscott should not be moving other editors' comments like this. That's not cool. Timothy Usher 13:15, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your comment on the history page. yes I appear to have botched my request for an application for the page to be placed on the deletion list. I have left a note on the Talk Page. As an administrator can I ask you to assist me in getting that template up.
You asked for evidence of his writings. He has written countless articles and essays and is, of course, an editor also. A long lost of his works was on the previous article now scrapped. It was stated that they were irrelevant.
I feel the time has come to close that page. Sussexman 16:12, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Obviously you are no academic. Otherwise you'd know that in writing a thesis or whatever that is it very common to quote from articles which have been thoroughly researched and which appeared in learned journals/magazines, whatever. You would also know that most politicians right up to the 20th century wrote "pamphlets" rather than books and they were duly called "political writers". The Communist Manifesto, for instance, was issued as a phamplet. It was composed by a political writer. As for you guys trying to say you're all being fair and neutral with GLF - pleas, give us all a break. The garbage about his court case etc., is now the largest item on his page. Buts what you all really wanted, wasn't it. 81.131.4.94 20:40, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
"Communist Manifesto, for instance, was issued as a phamplet."
If Marx and Engels had written the Communist Manifesto and nothing else they would be pamphleteers and nothing else - as it was they went on to write a number of books. Homey 19:40, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
Very appropriate and much appreciated. Thanks for that. Netscott 22:22, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
JzG, I apologize for this disruption of your talk page. Say the word and this'll be taken elsewhere if needed. Netscott 07:41, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
You recently blocked me for edits I made to the AfD of the article about the objective validity of astrology, saying blocking me till the end of the 'vote' would suffice. However, my block has expired, but the AfD isn't over yet. Please feel free to block me again until it is done. Stanfordandson 01:00, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
JzG, I am curious as to whether there is some mediation process between users. Every day I attempt to clear things up with Netscott, and every day he comes around to start things up again. It honestly seems to me as if he has a running list of people he'd like to drive off of Wikipedia, the last one was FairNBalanced, I defended FNB against a proposed indefinite ban, and now he's latched onto me. He acts as if he is the sole arbitrer of good faith, and by some arcane and indefeasable calculus, he's concluded (or at least claims) that I don't have it. Timothy Usher 11:35, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
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Thank you for your support in my RfA, which ended with the result of (74/0/0). If there is anything I can help with feel free to
ask. Also, if there is anything I am doing wrong, please point that out as well. I look forward to working with you in the future.
Highest regards, DVD+ R/W 01:47, 17 June 2006 (UTC) |
I just want you to know that I find your remarks insulting and highly offensive. Your idea of "neutrality" and common decency clearly differs from mine. That does not mean you are right. Sussexman 20:40, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
I have cleaned up all the redirects and links to this article, either redirecting/linking to the general, the legitimate family article, or in some cases just tagging them for speedy as db-redirnone. Boy, this kid was thorough, screwed things up all over the place. Fan1967 13:23, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Hey, sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. I'm on vacation with sparse internet. If I could have the text for my personal use that would be great. I was actually going to bring it over to b:Muggle's Guide to Harry Potter because that Wikibook is seriously lacking, but… do you have to email it to me, or can you post it somewhere where it can then again be deleted after I retrieve the information? I don't think I will be able to respond to you again until 25 June, so apologies in advance as I roam Europe searching for wireless internet… Thanks! -- Fbv 65 e del / ☑t / ☛c || 16:51, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
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Thanks for voting! Hello JzG/Archive 11, and thank you so much for voting in my recent RfA. I am pleased to inform you that it passed with a final tally of (119/1/3), into the WP:100, so I have now been cleared for adminship and will soon be soaring above the clouds. I was overjoyed, shocked, and humbled by the tally, and, most importantly, all the support. Thank you. If there is ever anything you need, you know where you can find me. Take care. |
-- Pilot| guy 22:39, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello JzG, and thanks for voting in my recent RfA, which passed with a tally of (68/19/3). I appreciated your comments, which I hope to take on board in order to gain your respect in my work as an administrator. Best of luck in your continued editing of the encyclopedia! Sam Vimes 17:52, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
So I want to understand clearly, did I advance the case on verifiability, and I now have to make the case for notability?
Bloger 20:11, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
I don't know if you are in the UK or not but is it possible to get a British newspaper interested in this matter? If they were to print something it would quite quickly end the debate over whether the media can mention "spent" convictions. Homey 20:12, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
I won't remove the to-be article from my user page. I've stated the reasons on my talk page. I don't exactly approve of changing part of my iterpretations of the deletion of the article and the Asperger's self-identification article either. It is my opinion that this was vandalism and a coordinated attempt to silence the ideas. The requests to remove the content from my user page is certainly the same thing (an attempt to silence impopular ideas). -- Rdos 07:06, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi, JzG, Can I ask you to please put your new comments at the end of section? It is very difficult to follow chronologically people's comments if you insert them out of order. Thanks. Fresheneesz 07:38, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Exactly how many RfCs have been called to discuss your WP policy enforcement actions? Stephen B Streater 17:38, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks... It's tuff trying to maintain order when it comes really hot issues. --- J.S ( t| c) 18:29, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
First, I have nothing more to discuss with you, and second, your admin admirers have *protected* it so non-admins cannot make comments. Clearly an appauling strategy. -- Rdos 11:29, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Could you please reinstall the category listngs on my user page and remove your alterations to my comments (take your comments away along with my overstriked). I won't accept your other alterations anytime soon anyway. -- Rdos 18:15, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Was it you that blocked my site for wiki-links? If so, I suggest you point me to the proper location for opposing such a ridiculus action. -- Rdos 06:38, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
OK, so how about a truce, and I'll leave you alone? If you remove the spam-block on rdos.net I'll promise to keep the Neanderthal theory out of Wikipedia until I have a journal citation to it? -- Rdos 19:51, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
What!? Moving house?! ... and to a place with a real shed I bet! Leaving me the last man on earth without a shed... Aaaack! *shed envy* Pete.Hurd 02:29, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Seems our aspiring aristocrat just won't give up. This time he reinvented his dad as personal protector to the queen: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sir Andrew Roberts, with a bunch of titles that don't actually exist. - Fan1967 07:59, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Some time ago, we coined the term Viewtooth for sending video over Bluetooth. Now I see it has 1440 Google hits. I'm tempted to include the word in the FORscene article, but have resisted temptation so far. Do you have a feel of WP:NEO threshhold for a word? It's catching on around 50 times faster than "MUG" ;-) Stephen B Streater 20:48, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello,
An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/8bitjake. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/8bitjake/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/8bitjake/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, -- Tony Sidaway 23:26, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your quick attention re: Cardinal Newman High School I don't understand why you can't speeedily delete an article about a non-notable highschool? Its ummm, non notable. Why does it matter whether it will "go down a treat" (per your edit summary) or not? Its non-notable. I am baffled. "...one of the top 50 Catholic high schools in the nation, according to the Catholic High School Honor Roll." Yeah and its probably one of the top five in southern California with the word Cardinal in its name. Many thanks. -- Stroika 06:17, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Hey JzG, are you on-line for long? I just performed a history merge on Deafness but the restored edits are still in limbo, so I can't revert the self-direct I created; and I really want to go to bed. Can you get this? CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 09:34, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
I will cede to your better judgement here, since you seem to know something we don't. Hopefully all is OK and he will calm himself down. Badgerpatrol 09:52, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
If you are interested in my summary of the poll results, read User:Mbeychok/MRB's Survey of Wikipedian Engineers. - mbeychok 15:50, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
My problem with Badlydrawnjeff's temperament and stance is partially derivative. Tony Sidaway and I have had sometimes polite wheel wars over deletion in the past (and sometimes not polite), and, although I used to never allow a user's philosophy to influence a vote on RFA, I've had to rethink that. It's a matter of degree, of course. My experience with badlydrawnjeff has been that his fundamental philosophy is, "If it doesn't hurt, let it in," and on DRV he's argued from the topic of articles from time to time. Those both concern me, as the only way we can keep from personal animosity, I think, is a cold, nearly blind application of the standards we have. Advertising, for example, is a deletion guideline failure, whether it's of a minor and good thing or a big and wicked thing. Trivia is not encyclopedic, whether it's popular trivia or unpopular trivia. When I phrased it as "include/exclude," I meant it literally. I've come to the conclusion that the real question is, "Should it be in if there are no objections?" vs. "Should it be out if it isn't helpful to readers/users?" I tend to think that we should approach the project with the latter question: what do readers need, not what do writers want. It's a question of emphasis on the contributor versus the reader. At the same time, it's not what will the reader want, but what will the reader need or be aided by. Therefore, even though readers want to read the latest gab about the latest TV show, it won't inform them or help them negotiate the world around them. It's sort of empty calories. Anyway, my own view was that bdj had been too enthusiastic a "defender of articles" (which bothers me by itself, because it invokes that old "deletionist" language -- that there are people like me who hate articles (despite all the ones I write) and are picking on them, and they need defenders to protect their tender flesh from our nasty claws). I don't think bdj has crossed the line particularly, but I think that it would be deleterious to have more unilateralism and warring and theatrical "defense" and "attack" on contributors. Geogre 18:50, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
His statement that he would avoid XfD's was cheering, but I've had a lot of trouble with... certain admins. Then again, I have my own cranky ideas about the "de-admin" thing, too. (I think we should be talking about demotion, not "de-sysopping," and I'd like to think that we could make demotion and repromotion automatic and away from votes. E.g. demotion would result in restoration automatically unless the ArbCom (not RFA voters) saw a repeat of whatever got the demotion. A second demotion would automatically repeal after a bit longer. A third, a bit longer still. A fourth would be the real "de-admin" procedure, with a reapplication to RFA if restoration is desired.) (Told you they were cranky.) (They're also unpassable, because, to be policy, they need either top-down fiat from Jimbo or approval in votes, and people are so afraid of "admin power grabs" that anything that says ArbCom gets to restore priviledges (even though it presently can anyway) would go down in flames.) If we had a more flexible and less devastating procedure for limiting admin wars, I'd never dream of opposing for suspicion or fear and would need to see demonstrated bad behavior. I'm sorry that I'm at the place I am. Geogre 19:31, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
I have scaled the Reichtag buliding wearing a spiderman outfit. The proof is in the picture!
I LIVE IN YOUR EYES. Cazoo.
Dfrg.msc 08:30, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
agreed. dismissed.
I haven't gotten that deep with it yet, but this is my new favorite pet project. After doing the cite work and checking on things, (*yawn*), it was fairly apparent that the selected first article from the court action was not in fact the first article. I was simply too bored to care. :) Ste4k 14:15, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for weighing in on the Kelly Roberti dispute. It really helps to get some support. Whoever this Blastphemy or Miranda (notice, not a registered user) is, he or she refuses to sign with the four tildes, despite being told to do so in clear terms. And now, a more serious thing, he/she is engaging in real personal abuse. But, again, it helps to not have to fight these battles alone. Being attacked doesn't feel so bad then. Much appreciated! Alan W 01:58, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
JzG, on the Talk:ULTra_(PRT) page, you wrote:
"And ATE, you are right: I am nothing like a closed minded, arrogant, trigger-happy admin, else you and Skybum would be blocked..."
Might I ask on what grounds? I don't believe I've done anything to warrant anything but a short term block. I had some conflicts many months ago, and as for the personal attack on you, it was a mistake and I regret it. Do users get permanent bans for such small transgressions?
And even if you could get me banned, I certainly have seen nothing in Skybum's history to warrant a block. Not even close.
How can you make such a claim? Do you really believe that our actions have been so destructive that they would warrant an indefinite block, something that is reserved for only the worst of the worst vandals? If so, then go ahead and initiate the process; I have nothing to hide.
A Transportation Enthusiast 09:06, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia is supposed to be an encyclopedia. Since there is no article on me in Wikipedia or quotes in the PRT article or the PRT Talk page, it makes little sense to keep bringing my name up. If you want to trash me, I suggest you start a blog about me like your friend David Gow [7].Blogs are free at Blogger. Avidor 12:41, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Being new to this whole admin thing, I could use your opinion on the whole BenH thing. I really tried to give the guy the benefit of the doubt and assume good faith and all that. Now, I do think that some folks are thinking that they "own" the articles, but the lack of citing sources, the inappropriate addition of stub tags when it's obviously not a stub, and his lack of dialogue on all the matters has started to wear a bit thin. What do you think should be done? I don't think a permanent ban (as some are suggesting) is anywhere close to the right solution, but I don't think that doing nothing is the right thing to do either. Sue Anne 01:57, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
( Wikipedia:No climbing the Reichstag dressed as Spiderman)
I have threatened to climb the Reichstag, dressed up as and did so, became bollocked from editing for violating Wikipedia policy against climbing the Reichstag dressed as Spiderman, and then had it become an official policy on Wikipedia (and to be an official decree by the Supreme Cabal Regime of the English Wikipedia ( SCREW)). Is Absolutley fantasitic!. This is so great!
"In extreme cases editors may be tempted to climb the Reichstag building dressed as Spiderman in order to promote their cause. This is absolutely forbidden and can result in an indefinite block from editing Wikipedia."
This single event is a great example of all the good qualities of our beloved Wikipedia! Horay!
Thats what I love about this Wonderful, wonderful website.
Next stop: The Kremlin!
Thankyou!
Please see my comments there regarding your suggestion and if this AfD can be closed to consensus I can begin working on the merge. I think it's a good idea. I recently performed a similar merge for what appears to be your reasons on the page Marianne Williamson. If you wouldn't mind adding that to your watch list, I have already seen reasons for it to be monitored by a neutral source. Thanks. Ste4k 10:27, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
I've noticed since that you voted on that AfD, but I also spoke with tangotango and he advised to wait a full 5 days. If you know of anyone with some slave labor type jobs to do, let me know so I can occupy myself in the interim. It has been advised by a neutral party that I may be experiencing wiki-stress. I thought it was cute, but just the same, I could use a long list of easy but boring repetitive tasks to do (those are my favorite). I appreciate your comments and help. Ste4k 12:52, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Nevermind. I am so slow! :) I just saw the closure and will begin the merge. Thanks. Ste4k 12:54, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
I'll not make any links here to avoid reverses. I finished this merge and for the book found one reliable secondary and one reliable primary that named the original publisher. In any case, the merge is complete. I spent most of time researching everywhere I know, but found only article. He does appear to be able to meet WP:BIO in that gray area and I did my best to include that information especially. I also included one line about Course of Miracles since I am positive that it would be very upsetting to them if something wasn't included. It was a statement from Publisher's Weekly which is probably better than any directly related source. I would appreciate your comments on it, specifically anything it needs doing, and I'll make it worth my time to get those tasks done.
On the second subject, the publisher for that book (found out today actually it's a set of three) does not appear to be of a significant volume to be considered reputible itself. The main question that cannot therefore be verified in writing or anywhere else is if the words in the books are the same as the words that the lady wrote down in the first place. I am just going to walk away from it for awhile, there aren't any sources for it whatsoever in my opinion. I appreciate your backing up policy, if for no other reason than I didn't feel alone believing in it. Ste4k 18:30, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
I started from scratch, dug up three (rather than two) of the Court case files and wrote this article. It is all completely from the court case, tells the whole story, and guess what? All of those groups ARE the same people, it explains it, and none of them have rights to anything about the book anymore. Imagine that! Wow, what a surprise. The article doesn't even coin the acronym ACIM. Anyhow, I'd appreciate it if you'd give it a once over, make some comments, etc., but basically, this one article could replace about six to eight others that are all over [Category:A_Course_In_Miracles ]. Most of them have AfD's now that want a merge, but they don't really say where, specifically. ;) And there are two others, specifically the Endeavor Academy and the guy who runs it, that I would AfD in a heartbeat but I don't want to have anymore of the AGF accusations. Just say the word, and I'll do whatever you think needs doing. :) Ste4k 12:01, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
If you are to make massive deletions from this article, some explanations in talk would be appreciated. ≈ jossi ≈ t • @ 13:52, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
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The Surreal Barnstar | |
For your effort to keep the Reichstag Spiderman-free, I award you this barnstar after laughing my arse off. Zoz (t) 14:31, 29 June 2006 (UTC) |
Marianne Williamson is an internationally acclaimed author
talented came from her singing career which I thought would probably be better left as one word.
Also, per checking that facts during the rewrite, this lady turned out to be a lot bigger than I had ever imagined. From the article it replaced, the best I could imagine was some talk show guest on Oprah. Nelson Mandelah knows about this lady. ( ! ) Ste4k 19:16, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for adding the pertaining userbox to my userpage; it is much appreciated...now I'll be spending more time patrolling the Reichstag then wiki. Cheers. :)))) Lectonar 07:09, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
this is great! Its like bloody Mensa at drinking hour in here! Steven Hawking is buying the next round! Yeah!
Dfrg.msc 08:50, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Can i join your order of rogue admin. Can you rig the admin election so i get in?
Cheese please?
PS lose weight now ask me how!
F 22 09:44, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
This edit removed my nomination from MfD. I assume it wasn't deliberate but please take care. -- A Y Arktos\ talk 12:34, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for doing that. Cheers -- Pak21 12:37, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that you added another proposed issue to the RfM for The Great Authorship of A Course in Miracles Kerfluffle. It's a worthwhile issue, but is it appropriate to modify an RfM after the parties have already agreed to it? It certainly seems appropriate to suggest additional issues to the parties involved, but actually modifying the RfM at that point seems like something that might best be left to the parties and the mediator. (And I admit to being a bit surprised that the parties agreed to the RfM as it was. :) ) Kickaha Ota 14:05, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Please take the trouble to identify precisely what problems exist within these articles, and detail what needs to be done to fix thewm, in neutral terms. Avoid baiting, or being baited by, Andrew or anyone else. If the content cannot be sourced and verified it will eventually be removed, but there is no deadline. I am as vehemently opposed to the abuse of Wikipedia to promote commerical enterprises as anyone, but I don't really have time to research this in depth. Remember: reliable secondary sources independent of the movement are what is needed, for both support and criticism. Just zis Guy you know? 18:17, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Please see text near the bottom here: The thick part has many links. Ste4k 14:07, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
I think that you have protected the wrong version of
Falkland Islands. Moreover, you participated in the edit warring before protecting it. That means you were personally involved in the matter. Please, unprotect the page or be de-sysopped.
ackoz
15:26, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
(reset indent) I tried to follow it but then I lost it. Thx, contacting Jimbo right away.
ackoz
15:54, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your support for my recent RfA, which I'm quite happy to announce has passed with a consensus of 67 supporting, 0 opposed and 0 neutral. I'm glad I meet your criteria. Most of all, I'm glad you took the time to evaluate my candidacy, as I believe that's what keeps RfA running smoothly, and I'll be working hard to justify the vote of confidence you've placed in me. Please let me know at my talk page if you have any comments on my performance as an admin. Thanks! TheProject 02:32, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Well, it appears he made another edit without replying to the RfC or the comments on his talk page. Just wanted to let you know. — Whomp [ T] [ C 21:18, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Hello JzG, unfortunately it appears that the "policy" image may go the way of the Dodo. I informed Dfrg.msc about it... but from looking at his talk page I have a sneaking suspicion that he doesn't know how the system works. Not sure what can be done about this... but I thought you should be aware of the situation. Take it easy. Netscott 01:10, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Since you are looking into this, I have the following suggestion:
I have written an article that is factual based on the court records that includes only information about the book and is written NPOV. A Course in Miracles (book)
If the factions are based on opinion about the court case, there is another AfD that I have put up regarding that, which is receiving little attention and trying to support WP:SCHOOL which was refused as a guideling. Please see, this discussion .
This should leave three or four decent-sized articles, once the cruft and unverifiable / uncited commentary is pruned out.
Just zis Guy you know?
11:39, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Attempting to edit anything in either of the articles about the book has only led to anonymous/vandal/edit warring. Trying to establish any sort of mutual understanding in discussion has led to "We have more editors than you" sorts of reasoning. Ste4k 11:51, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
LOL, I just looked and the new article that merges is getting an AfD. 11:59, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the move on Empire of Atlantium.
I am not a sysop because I haven't got enough life bandwidth to go RC or CVU (other than what wanders through pages I edit and watch) and only end up needing to ask an admin for help with something once a month or so these days. It would be moderately useful, but hasn't bugged me enough to be necessary. And there are still people out there who claim to oppose any nominee with less than 2,500 edits, and I am only just about to break 2k... I don't know, if people think I'd be doing useful stuff with it with my bandwidth, I'd go for it, but I can't commit to being a super-active janitor. Georgewilliamherbert 09:18, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm not entirely clear what the function of an admin is - but I thought it was to be balanced and fair. What part have I got wrong? SilkTork 13:31, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Satchel Cohen - do it, Guy! :) - CrazyRussian talk/ email 16:19, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charles Buell Anderson After nominating these two pages for deletion, some questions were asked by another admin. I researched deeper into these articles and found that they are basically attack pages in disguise as a bio. I have spoken to one other admin in IRC. But, I thought I should let you know what's up. The admin who initially was asking questions is named Will Beback. I left him a note on his page as well, and also there is some discussion in talk pages of the article and the AfD. Ste4k 17:42, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Hey -- saw your note on WP:AN, and I looked into this a bit. After doing some brief searching, I found a couple of articles criticizing the ABD for distorting facts to their benefit. See [9] and [10] (pdf), in addition to the source about membership claims that's already there. I don't know if sources can be found for all the criticism that was here before, but if not, I think these sources still give a general picture. We have to strike a balance between responsibly describing the criticism and yet not doing investigative reporting. I think if there's an ABD central claim that a primary source directly and obviously refutes, that could be included without a secondary source. This is sort of what that big table on car ownership rates is doing. But picking off individual claims in order to paint a general picture of the organization is too much OR for my taste. Anyway. Condolences about your sister, and thanks for your support vote in my RFA. Mango juice talk 19:29, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
If you have a moment, I'd appreciate you reviewing my comment at the bottom of this AfD. Thanks. Ste4k 16:02, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
I see that you were the admin responsible for closing the old Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Sharp debate. I happened to note that the Michael Sharp article has been recreated and I don't think this has gone through any sort of undeletion process. I proded the article but the tag has been removed by user:Ginar who had created the original article. So I thought I would just relist it for AfD but of course I can't because I'm not supposed to edit the previous AfD debate! Anyways, I think it's a pretty clear cut of speedy delete. If not, please let me know how to proceed to re-nominate for deletion. Thanks. Pascal.Tesson 02:38, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
The article can't be speedy deleted after it was recreated. It was recreated by an specialist on occult/spiritual authors user:Boboroshi whereas user:Pascal.Tesson is a mathematician and is probably just expressing a personal bias against. Also the prod said if you disagreed with the prod for any request then the article would remain. user:Boboroshi needs to provide some sort of justification for wanting the article deleted especially since its been recreated by a specialist in the field Ginar
Jeez, thx for assuming good faith. As I said above I'm open to submitting this to the usual AfD process, except I can't because there already is an existing debate. Pascal.Tesson 02:59, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
my apologies fellow Canuck. My point, the article was recreated by someone who specializes in editing occult literature. Because of that I think its worthwhile assuming good faith on the part of the person who recreated. Also, the prod said if you disagree for any reason, remove the prod. My sense, and I could be wrong, is that the recreation of an article tends to add weight to the notion that the article deserves to be in wikepedia. I know I read that somewhere but can't remember where. Ginar 03:04, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Morgen because its barely more than a sentance with some links also. In fact, maybe we should devise a word limit filter any any article that shows less than say 100 words can be automatically deleted. only seems fair Ginar 16:44, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
I don't think Cyde's block was very fair, as I checked the disruption clause and it actaully states that users will usually be warned before being blocked, so why wasn't I, given that I am an established user. Myrtone
You reverted my revert on The Game (game) with the edit summary Actually, Flemish is not Dutch. There are dialectic differences. Tell a Fleming that he is Dutch and see how far it gets you :-). Of course Flemings are not Dutch any more than Austrians are German or Americans are English, but I'd maintain that they speak Dutch. To quote from Flemish (linguistics):
Assuming the above is correct (and if you don't think it is, perhaps you should say so), would you be amenable to reverting it back again? Even if it is correct to call the dialects in question Flemish, I'd be almost certain (with the caveat that I don't speak Dutch myself) that the language of De Morgen is indistinguishable from that of a paper printed in the Netherlands. -- Blisco 19:00, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your good work keeping an eye on it. :) Sebastian Kessel Talk 00:04, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Just so you know, I have just reverted our old friend Gibraltarian. It didn't take long for him to come back on the scene. Vilĉjo 12:23, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
You nominated a pair of articles by User:HayMeadows to AFD today with an "is there an echo here"? type comment on the second.
http://www.haymeadows.com/links/seo-link-exchange.htm Demonstrates that there is a company by that name involved in search engine optimization. One of the two companies you AFD nominated is specifically listed as an SEO client. I'm not sure what more to do, so I'm alerting you. GRBerry 03:51, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
It now seems Feedyourfeet ( talk · contribs) is insisstent on blanking part of their talk page. So, it would be pointless of me to continue to revert. So, perhaps, as an admin, you could decide either a) let-it-be or b) not allow it. This is really a grey area for me, as this user hasn't done anything really horrible. But, the blanked comments were, IMO, about a item worth keeping for future reference (e.g. PRODing with Edit Summaries). -- Rob 07:05, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
If you provide a policy i will be happy to abide by it. Other wise i dont see how i am breaking any rules. Feedyourfeet 07:44, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Dear JzG,
In case you may be interested, the nomination for deletion of the
A Course In Miracles (book) article, in which you placed a comment, has been resumed by myself. The nomination had been closed after only two days, and thus instead of submitting a new nomination, I have reopened the old discussion. Thanks for your interest and comment(s) on this discussion thus far.
- Scott P. 11:25, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi there:
I just came to your talk page to thank you for your support of my RfA, and I came across your tragedy. I am so sorry; I cannot imagine what I would do if something similar happened to me. I hope that you and your family are doing alright and that your grief is becoming bearable.
— DLJessup ( talk) 03:45, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not a playground, your nonsensical edits to article space should now stop. Just zis Guy you know? 14:38, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Dfrg.msc 06:51, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
I would appreciate it if you could weigh in on the recent changes to mystical experience. It appears Vaquero100 ( talk · contribs) has simply imported Catholic Encyclopedia text with little to no formatting. That being problematic in itself, I don't consider that the main issue (or reason enough to revert). However, there is already an article on mysticism in general, then an article on Christian mysticism. Maybe there is enough information about Roman Catholic mysticism to warrent its own article, but at the very least, the name of the article should be changed. It seems very biased the the phrase "mystical experience" should point to an article about Catholic mysticism instead of mysticism in general. What do you think?-- Andrew c 17:34, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
I think I screwed up with regard to how I entered this data, so I am deleting this entry and re-entering it in a different way. Sorry.
Davidkevin 23:03, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
FYI, I've received this [11] and have replied on Anchor434's talk page. Tyrenius 20:47, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
That's pretty funny... it's good to have a link to that case leading from that discussion. Don't let me be a bad influence on you now and start going around calling people "idiots". LOL!. ( → Netscott) 15:46, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Please remove your personal attack otherwise I will report you to Wikipedia:Personal_attack_intervention_noticeboard. Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on the contributor; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Raphael1 18:40, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
If you are posting on talk pages, asking experienced editors to give their opinion on an issue, make sure not to use language that may suggest bias.
Good: "Hey, Bob, could you tell me what you think about this discussion? I think your input could help"
I am using the exact copy from the survey guideline in order not to get accused/blocked for recruiting. Could you please check the discussion there, Bob?
85.70.5.66 08:00, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Ahem. I noticed that you gave a vote of "Keep" on the AfD for There Is No Cabal. I'm attempting to get my point across that, when discussing the history of Usenet, FAQs from the period should be acceptable as primary sources (attempting to apply common sense to this guideline). I've fired off an email to the original maintainer of the FAQ asking him to provide evidence that he, in fact, authored the FAQ, hoping it would help. Could you provide some policy advice that might support the "Keep" view, to help me organize my response? I have an intuition that there's a very, very good reason not to delete, and it's frustrating me to the point that I'm not certain I can keep that frustration from spilling out into the discussion. Captainktainer * Talk 10:27, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
I have restored this talk page. WP:CSD G8 says "unless they contain deletion discussion that isn't logged elsewhere". That applies here. -- Sam Blanning (talk) 11:29, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi JzG.... Template:User Jimbo v. Willy has been moved to User:Ikiroid/User Jimbo v. Willy. The original template space name was salted with {{ deletedpage}}, but an administrator forgot to add the <noinclude> tabs around the template, so now a bunch of userpages have a WP:SALT notices. Could you either fix this formatting error, or better yet, replace it with {{GUS UBX to|Jimbo v. Willy|Ikiroid/User Jimbo v. WIlly}}? Thanks.-- The ikiroid ( talk· desk· Advise me) 13:56, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
I have just been blocked from editing by you. May I ask why, and also why you were so rude in your message in telling me this?
User:Theoriginaldesperatehousewife 18:02, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
I was aware that it was not on the German version of Wikipedia and was intending to get my husband to do it, (he speaks german), as I wouldn't have the first idea what on earth it was talking about. I would like to point out, their is NO heir listed. As to the apparent recurrence of the name 'Stefan', it is according to my source,, "The Holy Roman Empire" by Viscount Bryce, correct. The heir to the Schwarzenberg throne is called Stefan. However if you are unable to accept this I think it would be a shame. here is the amazon link The Holy Roman Empire by Viscount Bryce
User:Theoriginaldesperatehousewife 19:04, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
After my edit the category is blue-linked, I did not only "reinsert", I made it work. An invisible character was present between "s" and "]", which I removed by retyping the sequence entirely. Circeus 20:06, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Good call. If anyone argues with you, I've got your back. Tom e r talk 20:10, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Um. What's this about User:Theoriginaldesperatehousewife creating nothing but bollocks? It's all garbage and lies? All of it? DS 23:51, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Careful, he bites.
Please see my comments in discussion on Forgiveness. Thanks. Ste4k 15:43, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the opinion, just one note. I am a lady, in case you weren't aware. :) Ste4k 17:08, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
No biggie, something about "steaks" and "beef" and "real men" I guess. The nickname actually comes from way back when I mentioned to some guy at work that he treated women like "steak on a meathook". My friends never let me live that down. :) Just another note, (slightly humorous I hope), the quote I listed above in that section on forgiveness comes from the KKK. (ouch!) The KKK is certainly a larger organization with more history about it, and as far as mentioning "cults", etc., it seemed to me to be an obvious choice; i.e. if the other editors really believe that this section is "balanced" then they should be mentioning other more easily and readily identifiable organizations which are not already included in the article. Their reasoning, though, is that the curriculum the Course is ideocentric around "forgiveness". I just do not see the notability here to justify the inclusion, however. It seems to me that by including this group into the "forgiveness" article, it does more to "establish" the group (i.e. advertise) than it does to rely upon the actual curriculum of the Course. Looking at the layout of the article, as you mentioned, we have "Bhuddism, Christianity, Judism, Islam, . . . ACIM" (????) The imbalance is very clear to me, especially since that particular acronym is used as a brand name. Ste4k 17:19, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
This made me laugh. :) You missed one -- first word, second sentence. Ste4k 17:30, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi JzG, Another admin, the closer of the AfD of the article that I had started has decided to keep the talk page. Please see: User_talk:Mangojuice#curious
I believe that the page falls under the criteria of WP:CSD#General_criteria item number 8. I don't wish to be disrespectful to the other admin, but I don't believe he understands this topic very much. Could you take a look please? Ste4k 19:21, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Please see Talk:A_Course_in_Miracles#Request_for_comment_suggestion. I hope that I correctly voiced your earlier concern. Ste4k 21:52, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:Mboverload&oldid=63151155#How_dare_you.
I am finished here until something is done about admins ganging up on people and playing WP:POINT games because they haven't anything else better to do. You have my e-mail address. I am so upset right now that I won't say anything more. Thanks for all that you did to help in the few days I got to know you. Ste4k 02:00, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Hope you didn't mind my giving you a bit of a hard time on the AfD -- it was meant in good fun. I also forgot that you're an admin and could have protected them yourself, otherwise I woulda just recommended that you do that.
Peace, and keep up the good work :) - Che Nuevara: Join the Revolution 14:25, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Out of curiosity arising from an old edit of Chevrolet Caprice, if it's not too much trouble I would like to see what briefly resided under the heading Slaughter of 1997. Apparently it refers to a General Motors corporate schism of some sort. TIA. (and thanks for the move—I shouldn't be on Wiki before coffee!) Scheinwerfermann 14:44, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
In fairness to Sean, he already was chastized shortly after doing it, per this edit from JoanneB.
Also, on a separate note ... I read your page about your sister which is linked to at the top of this page. With losses of that magnitude, my powers of expression pretty much fail me; I can only say that despite not knowing you well, or knowing your sister, I truly regret and sorrow for your loss, and that is a testament not only to the spirit of your sister but of how beautifully you wrote about her. — Mike ( talk • contribs) 15:06, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
I've just put a db-repost tag on Acadame N. Acadame north and Acadame North are already protected. User:Acadamenorth seems determined to keep trying. Fan-1967 15:29, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
I seriously doubt he will be able to respond to Talk pages and his RfC coherently. Please keep him blocked. Please, please, please, please, please. -- CFIF (talk to me) 23:08, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Hey Guy, I came across the nomination you made thru the whole debacle on the incident board. It seems like consensus for the article is going the way of keep...I encourage you to find someone to close this afd. I understand your impulse to delete a problematic article, to tell you the truth, I may have put it up for afd in the same situation......but if the topic was non-notable, I assume Jimbo would have gone ahead and speedied it in order to avoid more problems, but I'm guessing he kept it for a reason.I was going to put up a request for an early close on ANI, but I wanted your input first.-- The ikiroid ( talk· desk· Advise me) 01:16, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
reference: User:Streamless
i humbly submit that it's silly to delete the entire lists because of verifiability or mistakes. anyone with an ear can verify whether a song is in triple meter or not. also, if there is a mistake in a page, it seems better to correct the mistake than to delete the entire page. i submit that a lack of "consensus" is being used as a pretext for a majority of admins who don't care about songs in triple meter to delete a page that song signature geeks care about. please undelete the page, or use your influence to have it undeleted. thank you. Streamless 14:15, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Guy, since you have been working with this editor, could you please give a third opinion on the matter in dispute here? Thank you. KWH 06:50, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
considered and rejected at template talk, not so much for transclusion / server strain / disk space reasons, as for ease of finding though whatlinkshere and some meta mumbo-jumbo I do not understand. This is the proposed solution. - CrazyRussian talk/ email 15:57, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
I am a lawyer in London who for over 20 years was an active member of the Conservative Monday Club, which actually had a Legal Policy Group, as there were so many lawyers in the Club. You know, the sort of lawyers you sneer at so competantly. I want you to know that I have finally written to Gregory Lauder-Frost, and his Edinburgh solicitors, offering my services gratis. I have included several pages of comments made by Mr Chilvers as well as you which we have managed to catalogue which demonstrate very clear malice and an absolute contempt of UK law, which any judge would find, hands down. You clearly think you know better than the legal profession and that when people approach us for our advice, or instruct us, that we give them worthless service. I suggest you think again. Scum like you do abound as is evidenced here. You're not above the law and you live here. I am urging Mr Lauder-Frost and his lawyers to move against you as well as Chilvers. 82.133.83.209 16:30, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
I appreciate your comments -- and yes, I am generally persistant. But -- AOL as internet provider is not my choice. My employer pays for my home computer and internet, and so allows me to work a solid portion of my time from home. Their other "choice" of provider is not available in our neighborhood. But, working at home has allowed me to deal with some serious illnesses in our family and to be available in emergencies. A great blessing. So, Wikipedia problems, while irritating, is not a deal breaker for me. Hopefully the programmers here will continue to address the block issues. Best wishes. WBardwin 18:32, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm criticizing Wikipedia on the Criticism of Wikipedia page. What's the problem? Stop breathing down my neck. - Advocron 23:37, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Why is it that you deleted the whole WP: NCR history posting? It may have been vanity, but it was also the response to a question which you have happily deleted. If you think it is bias and untrue, then change it Mr. Trigger-Happy, I have invited you to do as such once already. Is not all History vanity?
Dfrg.msc 02:25, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits are considered vandalism, and if you continue in this manner you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the hard work of others. Thank you.
Changed it to no reason for blocks. Hope that's ok. Cheers -- Samir धर्म 07:17, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Please review the recent actions of 172.144.114.109 ( talk · contribs) (and similarly related edits from the 172 AOL IP net) -- I have temporarily blocked this user for trolling and disruption, it appears that this person has some sort of grudge against User:Elonka, and the editing style is rather curious. Seeing as you were the only person who voted to userfy or delete the Elonka Dunin article months ago on AFD, I am confident you can assist with this situation in a fair and balanced manner. :-) Can't sleep, clown will eat me 09:18, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Debate is at User talk:Socafan#Armstrong.
Please stop this as well as your condescending attitude towards other editors. Socafan 11:54, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
You've got mail. ( → Netscott) 15:04, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads-up - but I knew I would be reported, and after weighing the situation thoroughly, was willing to take that risk. I find it only too odd that one contributor would break the WP:3RR rule in using a sockpuppet, then report another who didn't. When I posted I had 'only' 99% certainty of this, but since I see that the other 1% has been confirmed by this contributor's refusal to respond to this evidence (in aiming his attack elsewhere). I know that even with my convictions and the proof of the error reverted to I should not have crossed the line, and for this I am sorry - but such situations should not even exist, especially for things so easily verifiable and corrected.
If you have followed anything on the Talk:Paris pages, you will see that problems such as these have been going on for over a year now. I am unsure on how (or on what complaint) I can begin proceedings to end this seeming personal vendetta and constant hassle, but would appreciate advice if you have any to offer. THEPROMENADER 13:26, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, I'm not really interested in the subject. I just hoped to defuse the situation a little. Maurreen 14:30, 14 July 2006 (UTC)