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Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked on some toolbar improvements, fixing bugs, and improving support for Indic languages as well as other languages with complex characters. The current focus is on improving the reference dialog and expanding the new character inserter tool.
There have been dozens of changes since the last newsletter. Here are some of the highlights:
?veaction=edit
to the end of the page name. For example, change
/info/en/?search=Special:Random
to
/info/en/?search=Special:Random?veaction=edit
to open a random page in VisualEditor. This is intended to support bug testing across multiple browsers, without requiring editors to login repeatedly.Looking ahead: The transclusion dialog will see further changes in the coming weeks, with a simple mode for single templates and an advanced mode for more complex transclusions. The new character formatting menu on the toolbar will get an arrow to show that it is a drop-down menu. The reference dialog will be improved, and the Reference item will become a button in the main toolbar, rather than an item in the Insert menu.
If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) ( talk) 20:50, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
Can you write [tæɪ̯t] instead of [taɪ̯t] in the file File:FRQC-tête.ogg in Wiktionnaire please ? I can't do it, because I'm block in Wiktionaire. 166.48.185.117 ( talk) 14:08, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
You can edit it with your IP address, isn't it ? 166.48.185.117 ( talk) 15:03, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
[fɔ], [faʊ̯] or [fə] ? 166.48.196.217 ( talk) 02:24, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
This pronunciation possesses the [ø] sound ? 166.48.173.31 ( talk) 23:15, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
It rhymes with feuille ? 166.48.173.31 ( talk) 02:22, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked mostly minor features and fixing bugs. A few significant bugs include working around a bug in CSSJanus that was wrongly flipping images used in some templates in right-to-left (RTL) environments ( bug 50910) a major bug that meant inserting any template or other transclusion failed ( bug 59002), a major but quickly resolved problem due to an unannounced change in MediaWiki core, which caused VisualEditor to crash on trying to save ( bug 59867). This last bugs did not appear on any Wikipedia. Additionally, significant work has been done in the background to make VisualEditor work as an independent editing system.
As of today, VisualEditor is now available as an opt-out feature to all users at 149 active Wikipedias.
__NOTOC__
and __FORCETOC__
as selection (forced on, forced off, or default setting; bugs
56866 and
56867) and __NOEDITSECTION__
as a checkbox (
bug 57166).Looking ahead: The character formatting menu on the toolbar will get a drop-down indicator next Thursday. The reference and media items will be the first two listed in the Insert menu. The help menu will get a page listing the keyboard shortcuts. Looking further out, image handling will be improved, including support for alignment (left, right, and center) and better control over image size (including default and upright sizes). The developers are also working on support for editing redirects and image galleries.
Subscriptions to this newsletter are managed at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Newsletter. Please add or remove your name to change your subscription settings. If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 20:15, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
The /ʁ/ are the same or different ? 166.48.190.77 ( talk) 02:54, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
The eu sound and ê sound are also different ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.48.190.77 ( talk) 10:19, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
[pøtɛtχ] and [pətaɪ̯tʀ] ? Do you know the difference of [ø] and [ə] ? 166.48.180.212 ( talk) 21:17, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
The Quebec pronunciation sounds really like [pətaɪ̯tʀ] with an [ə] ? 166.48.176.17 ( talk) 03:15, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
In the page User talk:Johnny Au/Archive3#tempête 3, you told me that it sounds like [tãpeɪ̯t]. Is that a right answer ? 166.48.180.174 ( talk) 18:18, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
Usb10 plug me in 02:19, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Sorry for the belated response. A few weeks ago I removed a remark on the Toronto Raptors page attributing their success in 2007 to Andrea Bargnani. This was not a mistake or "experimentation;" it's simply inaccurate to assert that Bargnani had anything but a negative impact upon his team's performance, and in fact had Bargnani not been on the Raptors, even considering the atrocious careers of essentially every draftee of the 2006 NBA draft, the Raptors would have, setting aside randomness, won even more games. I don't particularly desire to engage in a debate about the effectiveness of Bargnani as a basketball player because it's not a serious question, but I would be moderately happy to provide mountains of evidence that Bargnani is, in fact, one of the actual worst players in NBA history. I did explain my reasoning in the removal of the Bargnani-related information in my comments on my edit, but I'd be happy to discuss this further. It's simply not accurate to attribute any degree of success on the part of the Toronto Raptors to Bargnani, who is, as I have asserted, one of the most counterproductive players in NBA history. Your response to my original edit, "Regardless, Bargnani still contributed to the Raptors division title in 2007," could apply equally to any 4'10 quadriplegic serving as the 15th man on an NBA team that happens to do well. Merely playing for an NBA team does not entail "contribution" to that team's record of wins against losses.
Johnfloyd6675 ( talk) 06:00, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
It doesn't exactly rhyme with "fight" ? 166.48.169.125 ( talk) 17:39, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
The vowel is not exactly [aɪ̯] ? 198.99.29.15 ( talk) 11:53, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Seven songs use this key. 166.48.181.40 ( talk) 15:20, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
You hear [ɚ̃ kilɔmaɪ̯tʁ] or [ɚ̃ tʃilɔmaɪ̯tʁ] ? It's hard to tell ? 166.48.174.13 ( talk) 02:34, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Countering Systemic Bias for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. –Mabeenot ( talk) 00:54, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
Hey, I see you're one of the main contributors to the Robyn Doolittle article. I added some content from a Flare article which just came out (and which seems to be the first secondary source I can find covering Doolittle's pre-Star years), but it's 3:30 in the morning and I'm not sure how good it is so I'd appreciate if you'd be willing to give it a look over. Also I cited everything in there to that Flare article, because again, 3:30, but it really shouldn't be difficult to get other sources for a lot of the sentences (particularly regarding the timeline of the crack video, for which there's already its own article). I'm a bit Wikipedia'd out right now so I don't know that I'll get to it myself for a day or two, but if you're looking for something to do it's probably best if not the entire article is cited to that one Flare piece. Cheers! Wieno ( talk) 08:38, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
This song is in E minor ? 166.48.189.105 ( talk) 00:32, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
Is there a minor key in 1:32 ? 166.48.180.174 ( talk) 15:35, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
This song is in F# major or D# minor ? It's hard to tell. 166.48.197.237 ( talk) 02:39, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
This song is in A-flat minor ? 166.48.197.165 ( talk) 23:38, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
This song is in F# major ? 162.222.82.25 ( talk) 02:55, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
But not exactly in F# major ? 166.48.173.135 ( talk) 13:39, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
It is close to F major too ? 166.48.184.155 ( talk) 16:44, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
This song is in A major ? 166.48.180.106 ( talk) 03:17, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
The former is in G major and the latter is in F major ? 166.48.193.96 ( talk) 02:14, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
This page says this song is in F major, but that is not true ? 166.48.193.96 ( talk) 21:59, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
This song is between B major and C major ? 166.48.184.120 ( talk) 22:34, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
This key is closer to F major or G-flat major ? 166.48.172.142 ( talk) 02:07, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
The French pronunciation rhymes with "glasses", the Quebec pronunciation rhymes with "size" ? 198.99.29.198 ( talk) 16:05, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
The Quebec pronunciation rhymes with "type" ? 166.48.169.109 ( talk) 13:05, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
The Jèrriais pronunciation is "tor" with a trilled R, the Quebec pronunciation is "toe" ? 166.48.169.109 ( talk) 23:33, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
This man is a bass or a baritone ? 166.48.169.109 ( talk) 03:17, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
In 1:18, it's in F# major or D# minor ? 166.48.182.20 ( talk) 02:42, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Hello. Thank you for using VisualEditor! Having editors use it is the best way for the Wikimedia Foundation to develop it into the best tool it can be.
While we always welcome general feedback (please report any issues in Bugzilla in the "VisualEditor" product or drop your feedback on the central feedback page on MediaWiki.org), the developers are especially interested right now in feedback on the special character inserter. This new tool is used for inserting special characters (including symbols like ₥, IPA pronunciation symbols, mathematics symbols, and characters with diacritics). It is intended to help people whose computers do not have good character inserters. For example, many Mac users prefer to use the extensive "Special Characters..." tool present at the bottom of the Edit menu in all applications or to learn the keyboard shortcuts for characters like ñ and ü.
The current version of the special characters tool in VisualEditor is very simple and very basic. It will be getting a lot of work in the coming weeks and months. It does not contain very many character sets at this time. (The specific character sets can be customized at each Wikipedia, so that each project could have a local version with the characters it wants.) But the developers want your ideas at this early stage about ways that the overall concept could be improved. I would appreciate your input on this question, so please try out the character inserter and tell me what changes to the design would (or would not!) best work for you.
Issues you might consider:
The developers are open to any thoughts on how the special character inserter can best be developed, even if this requires significant changes. Please leave your views on the central feedback page, or, if you'd prefer, you can contact me directly on my talk page. It would be really helpful if you can tell me how frequently you need to use special characters in your typical editing and what languages or other special characters are important to you.
Thank you again for your work with VisualEditor and for any feedback you can provide. I really do appreciate it.
P.S. You might be interested in the current ideas about improving citations, too. Whatamidoing (WMF) ( talk) 00:20, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked on some small changes to the user interface, such as moving the reference item to the top of the Insert menu, as well as some minor features and fixing bugs, especially for rich copying and pasting of references.
The biggest change was the addition of more features to the image dialog, including the ability to set alignment (left, right, center), framing options (thumbnail, frame, frameless, and none), adding alt text, and defining the size manually. There is still some work to be done here, including a quick way to set the default size.
==section headings==
in references), it now strips out the inappropriate HTML.Looking ahead: The link tool will tell you when you're linking to a disambiguation or redirect page. The warning about wikitext will hide itself after you remove the wikitext markup in that paragraph. Support for creating and editing redirects is in the pipeline. Looking further out, image handling will be improved, including default and upright sizes. The developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments, some behavioral magic words like DISPLAYTITLE, and in-line language setting (dir="rtl"
).
If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 04:20, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
This song is between G major and A-flat major. I already know a lot of songs that uses a microtone ! 166.48.189.93 ( talk) 00:05, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
This song is exactly in G♭ major ? 166.48.189.93 ( talk) 01:56, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
This song is in G♭ major or G major ? 166.48.168.39 ( talk) 01:04, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
This key can make someone think of the color purple ? 166.48.185.170 ( talk) 16:48, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
The intro is in B major ? 166.48.168.185 ( talk) 11:26, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
The intro is in which key ? 198.99.28.211 ( talk) 16:39, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
The singing part is in F♯ major, but maybe it's in B major at 0:06 ? 162.222.80.37 ( talk) 12:07, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
The G♭ major and the E♭ minor sound very different ? 198.99.29.206 ( talk) 14:00, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
At 1:35, it's in G♭ major or E♭ minor ? 166.48.169.32 ( talk) 13:01, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
This song is played using black keys or not ? Fort123 ( talk) 13:43, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
First time, you told me that this song is in G major, because you didn't pay attention ? 166.48.185.102 ( talk) 23:34, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
Hi Johnny, I'm writing because you do a lot of edits to the Toronto roads articles. There seems to be three list articles about Toronto roads: List of east–west roads in Toronto, List of north–south roads in Toronto, and List of roads in Toronto. It's the "List of roads in Toronto" article I want your opinion about. I see there was some discussion about merging it on the talk page. It's mostly about diagonal roads, and may be better if it was called "List of diagonal roads in Toronto". And the non-diagonal roads in the article could be moved to the other lists. Also, all three list pages should have "see also" links to the others. Thanks for you opinion. Magnolia677 ( talk) 13:00, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has mostly worked on changes to the template and image dialogs.
The biggest change in the last few weeks was the redesign of the template dialog. The template dialog now opens in a simplified mode that lists parameters and their descriptions. (The complex multi-item transclusion mode can be reached by clicking on "Show options" from inside the simplified template dialog.) Template parameters now have a bigger, auto-sizing input box for easier editing. With today's update, searching for template parameters will become case-insensitive, and required template parameters will display an asterisk (*) next to their edit boxes. In addition to making it quicker and easier to see everything when you edit typical templates, this work was necessary to prepare for the forthcoming simplified citation dialog. The main priority in the coming weeks is building this new citation dialog, with the ultimate goal of providing autofill features for ISBNs, URLs, DOIs and other quick-fills. This will add a new button on the toolbar, with the citation templates available picked by each wiki's community. Concept drawings can be seen at mw:VisualEditor/Design/Reference Dialog. Please share your ideas about making referencing quick and easy with the designers.
__STATICREDIRECT__
, __[NO]INDEX__
and __
[NO]NEWEDITSECTION__
, and more. New keyboard shortcuts are listed there, and include undoing the last action, clearing formatting, and showing the shortcut help window. If you switch from VisualEditor to wikitext editing, your edit will now be tagged.The developers apologize for a regression bug with the deployment on 6 March 2014, which caused the incorrect removal of |upright
size definitions on a handful of pages on the English Wikipedia, among others. The root cause was fixed, and the broken pages were fixed soon after.
Looking ahead: Several template dialogs will become more compact. Looking further out, the developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments. You will be able to see the Table of Contents change live as you edit the page, rather than it being hidden. In-line language setting (dir="rtl"
) may be offered to a few Wikipedias soon.
If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback or by joining the office hours on 19 April 2014 at 2000 UTC. Thank you! MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 22:44, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
They sing in G major, right ? 166.48.189.125 ( talk) 23:03, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
Is there a big difference ? 166.48.168.168 ( talk) 14:57, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
The first video is in A♭ major and the second video is in F major ? 166.48.169.186 ( talk) 12:29, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
I knew that the first video is certainly in A♭ major, but you don't know that the second video is in which key ? 166.48.173.55 ( talk) 19:56, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
Maybe the second video is in G♭ major ? 166.48.173.71 ( talk) 11:43, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
Do you like this key ? This is my favorite key. 166.48.196.96 ( talk) 01:17, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
This song is in G♭ major or G major ? 166.48.180.95 ( talk) 11:32, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
That's my synesthesia. I'm capable to guess the keys, but I only have difficulty to distinguish D major/D♯ major, A major/A♯ major, B minor/C minor and F♯ minor/G minor. When you were 10 years old, you were capable to guess the keys ? 166.48.188.111 ( talk) 00:06, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
Do you have a synesthesia ? 166.48.188.111 ( talk) 11:59, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
Do you have an emotion for the F♯ major ? 166.48.188.111 ( talk) 14:35, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
F major and F♯ major sounds similar for you ? 166.48.174.75 ( talk) 11:19, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
F♯ major or G♭ major ? Which name is more popular ? 166.48.174.75 ( talk) 22:41, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
The F♯ major is present in this song ? 166.48.172.41 ( talk) 00:35, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
At 0:57, the key changes ? 166.48.185.115 ( talk) 12:46, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
Where is the minor key ? The song is in A major, isn't it ? 166.48.185.115 ( talk) 20:32, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
I don't hear a B minor. I hear the A major, F♯ major at 0:57 and G major at 2:57. The B minor is in which part ? 166.48.173.187 ( talk) 02:14, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
This key is neither F♯ major nor G major ? 166.48.173.187 ( talk) 02:29, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
It is in G major at 3:31 ? 166.48.184.79 ( talk) 18:59, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
It is in G major in 3:33 ? 166.48.177.125 ( talk) 11:09, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
The first song is in G major and the second song hasn't not a standard key ? 166.48.177.125 ( talk) 21:30, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
These two songs are in the same key ? 166.48.177.125 ( talk) 12:16, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
Both are in F♯ major, isn't it ? 166.48.177.125 ( talk) 15:01, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
This song is in A major ? 166.48.177.125 ( talk) 15:40, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
F♯ minor ? 166.48.177.125 ( talk) 16:06, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
But the singing part is in another key ? 166.48.177.125 ( talk) 11:13, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
This key's name is "F♯ major 7" ? Fort123 ( talk) 16:30, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
F♯ major with a 7 ? 166.48.177.125 ( talk) 11:14, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
This key is neither F major nor F♯ major. This key has not a name ? Maybe it's "tuned F major" ? 166.48.177.125 ( talk) 16:29, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
The intro is in F minor, it's in B♭ major in 0:11 and it's in D minor in 1:06, right ? 166.48.176.148 ( talk) 02:13, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
It is in F major at 0:13 ? 166.48.192.144 ( talk) 20:21, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
The first video is in G major, but the second video is between G♭ major and G major ? 166.48.177.32 ( talk) 21:47, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
This song is in F major ? 166.48.177.32 ( talk) 00:33, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
The Canadian French pronunciation is [seɪ̯n] or [saɪ̯n] ? 166.48.172.215 ( talk) 02:08, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
Your last name is pronounced [aʊ] ? 166.48.177.32 ( talk) 13:10, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
It's 歐 ? 166.48.177.32 ( talk) 15:43, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
In Cantonese, the word 区 has two pronunciations, [køy] for district and [au] for the last name. 166.48.180.115 ( talk) 15:15, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has mostly worked on performance improvements, image settings, and preparation for a simplified citation template tool in its own menu.
Looking ahead: A new, locally controlled menu of citation templates will put citations immediately in front of users. You will soon be able to see the Table of Contents while editing. Support for upright image sizes (preferred for accessibility) is being developed. In-line language setting (dir="rtl"
) will be offered as a Beta Feature soon. Looking further out, the developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments. It will be possible to upload images to Commons from inside VisualEditor.
If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback or by joining the office hours on Monday, 19 May 2014 at 18:00 UTC. If you'd like to get this on your own page, subscribe at Wikipedia:VisualEditor#Newsletter for English Wikipedia only or at meta:VisualEditor/Newsletter for any project. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) ( talk) 20:23, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
It rhymes with montagne ? 166.48.180.115 ( talk) 11:04, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
This song has a standard key or a microtone (Dm/E♭m) ? 166.48.196.49 ( talk) 21:56, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
This key is slightly closer to F major than it is to G♭ major ? 166.48.170.90 ( talk) 11:20, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
These two songs have a standard key or a microtone ? 166.48.181.176 ( talk) 02:09, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
This song is in a standard key or a microtone ? 166.48.181.176 ( talk) 00:01, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
It's not exactly in F♯ major ? 166.48.181.176 ( talk) 11:02, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
The second video's key is higher than the former ? 166.48.192.166 ( talk) 12:50, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
This song is in E major ? 199.59.76.43 ( talk) 23:07, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
At 4:40 until 5:07, it's in a major key or a minor key ? 166.48.188.186 ( talk) 14:35, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
This song is in a microtone ? 166.48.189.109 ( talk) 01:39, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
This song is in a microtone ? 162.247.121.237 ( talk) 12:13, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
It's in the side of F major ? 162.247.121.237 ( talk) 14:45, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
The difference is clear ? The former sounds like F♯ major and the latter sounds like F major ? 162.247.121.237 ( talk) 01:29, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
The first video is lower than F♯ major ? 162.247.121.237 ( talk) 11:28, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
But I heard a slight difference. Are you certain that the second song´s key is lower than the first video ? Fort123 ( talk) 19:12, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
This song is not exactly in G major ? 162.247.121.237 ( talk) 12:24, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
It sounds a bit like the F♯ major too ? 162.247.121.237 ( talk) 16:32, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
Can you block me please because my internet not good
I'm Fête, the above message is written by my younger brother, so my younger brother wasn't nice, he wanted to block me. 166.48.169.143 ( talk) 20:06, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
Gandrayda is not Fête. 162.247.121.237 ( talk) 11:44, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
At 1:12, the word hiver is pronounced [ivɛːʁ] or [ivaɪʁ] ? 162.246.53.114 ( talk) 15:06, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
Did you know?
The cite menu offers quick access to up to five citation templates. If your wiki has enabled the "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽" menu, press "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽" and select the appropriate template from the menu.
Existing citations that use these templates can be edited either using the "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽" tool or by selecting the reference and choosing the "⧼visualeditor-dialogbutton-reference-tooltip⧽" item in the "Insert" menu.
Read the user guide for more information.
Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has mostly worked on the new citation tool, improving performance, reducing technical debt, and other infrastructure needs.
The biggest change in the last few weeks is the new citation template menu, labeled "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽". The new citation menu offers a locally configurable list of citation templates on the main toolbar. It adds or opens references using the simplified template dialog that was deployed last month. This tool is in addition to the "⧼visualeditor-dialogbutton-reference-tooltip⧽" item in the "Insert" menu, and it is not displayed unless it has been configured for that wiki. To enable this tool on your wiki, see the instructions at VisualEditor/Citation tool.
Eventually, the VisualEditor team plans to add autofill features for these citations. When this long-awaited feature is created, you could add an ISBN, URL, DOI or other identifier to the citation tool, and VisualEditor would automatically fill in as much information for that source as possible. The concept drawings can be seen at mw:VisualEditor/Design/Reference Dialog, and your ideas about making referencing quick and easy are still wanted.
<span lang="en" dir="ltr">English</span>
. This tool is most useful for pages whose text combines multiple languages with different directions, common on Right-to-Left wikis.Looking ahead: The toolbar from the PageTriage extension will no longer be visible inside VisualEditor. More buttons and icons will be accessible from the keyboard. The "Keyboard shortcuts" link will be moved out of the "Page options" menu, into the "Help" menu. Support for upright image sizes (preferred for accessibility) and inline images is being developed. You will be able to see the Table of Contents while editing. Looking further out, the developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments. VisualEditor will be available to all users on mobile devices and tablet computers. It will be possible to upload images to Commons from inside VisualEditor.
If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback or by joining the office hours on Thursday, 19 June 2014 at 10:00 UTC. If you'd like to get this newsletter on your own page (about once a month), please subscribe at w:en:Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Newsletter for English Wikipedia only or at meta:VisualEditor/Newsletter for any project. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 22:16, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
Do you hear [tʀaɛ̯zə] if you slow down the audio using Audacity ? 162.222.81.152 ( talk) 13:26, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
Is there really an [a] before the [ɛ] ? 162.247.122.26 ( talk) 20:51, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
Is there a short [a] ? 162.246.52.229 ( talk) 02:33, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
Ok, but it's actually [tʀɛzə] or [tʀæzə] ? 162.246.52.229 ( talk) 12:59, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
It's [ɑ̃kɛːt], [ɑ̃keɪt] or [ɑ̃kaɪt] ? Fort123 ( talk) 01:15, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
I believe the reason it has not been updated on stats.wikimedia.org is here, if you're interested. Please don't quote me on this; I'm not sure of the details. Of course, the database includes all edits of every page, as well as every log entry. πr2 ( t • c) 03:56, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
![]() | This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked on some toolbar improvements, fixing bugs, and improving support for Indic languages as well as other languages with complex characters. The current focus is on improving the reference dialog and expanding the new character inserter tool.
There have been dozens of changes since the last newsletter. Here are some of the highlights:
?veaction=edit
to the end of the page name. For example, change
/info/en/?search=Special:Random
to
/info/en/?search=Special:Random?veaction=edit
to open a random page in VisualEditor. This is intended to support bug testing across multiple browsers, without requiring editors to login repeatedly.Looking ahead: The transclusion dialog will see further changes in the coming weeks, with a simple mode for single templates and an advanced mode for more complex transclusions. The new character formatting menu on the toolbar will get an arrow to show that it is a drop-down menu. The reference dialog will be improved, and the Reference item will become a button in the main toolbar, rather than an item in the Insert menu.
If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) ( talk) 20:50, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
Can you write [tæɪ̯t] instead of [taɪ̯t] in the file File:FRQC-tête.ogg in Wiktionnaire please ? I can't do it, because I'm block in Wiktionaire. 166.48.185.117 ( talk) 14:08, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
You can edit it with your IP address, isn't it ? 166.48.185.117 ( talk) 15:03, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
[fɔ], [faʊ̯] or [fə] ? 166.48.196.217 ( talk) 02:24, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
This pronunciation possesses the [ø] sound ? 166.48.173.31 ( talk) 23:15, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
It rhymes with feuille ? 166.48.173.31 ( talk) 02:22, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked mostly minor features and fixing bugs. A few significant bugs include working around a bug in CSSJanus that was wrongly flipping images used in some templates in right-to-left (RTL) environments ( bug 50910) a major bug that meant inserting any template or other transclusion failed ( bug 59002), a major but quickly resolved problem due to an unannounced change in MediaWiki core, which caused VisualEditor to crash on trying to save ( bug 59867). This last bugs did not appear on any Wikipedia. Additionally, significant work has been done in the background to make VisualEditor work as an independent editing system.
As of today, VisualEditor is now available as an opt-out feature to all users at 149 active Wikipedias.
__NOTOC__
and __FORCETOC__
as selection (forced on, forced off, or default setting; bugs
56866 and
56867) and __NOEDITSECTION__
as a checkbox (
bug 57166).Looking ahead: The character formatting menu on the toolbar will get a drop-down indicator next Thursday. The reference and media items will be the first two listed in the Insert menu. The help menu will get a page listing the keyboard shortcuts. Looking further out, image handling will be improved, including support for alignment (left, right, and center) and better control over image size (including default and upright sizes). The developers are also working on support for editing redirects and image galleries.
Subscriptions to this newsletter are managed at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Newsletter. Please add or remove your name to change your subscription settings. If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 20:15, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
The /ʁ/ are the same or different ? 166.48.190.77 ( talk) 02:54, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
The eu sound and ê sound are also different ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.48.190.77 ( talk) 10:19, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
[pøtɛtχ] and [pətaɪ̯tʀ] ? Do you know the difference of [ø] and [ə] ? 166.48.180.212 ( talk) 21:17, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
The Quebec pronunciation sounds really like [pətaɪ̯tʀ] with an [ə] ? 166.48.176.17 ( talk) 03:15, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
In the page User talk:Johnny Au/Archive3#tempête 3, you told me that it sounds like [tãpeɪ̯t]. Is that a right answer ? 166.48.180.174 ( talk) 18:18, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
Usb10 plug me in 02:19, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
Sorry for the belated response. A few weeks ago I removed a remark on the Toronto Raptors page attributing their success in 2007 to Andrea Bargnani. This was not a mistake or "experimentation;" it's simply inaccurate to assert that Bargnani had anything but a negative impact upon his team's performance, and in fact had Bargnani not been on the Raptors, even considering the atrocious careers of essentially every draftee of the 2006 NBA draft, the Raptors would have, setting aside randomness, won even more games. I don't particularly desire to engage in a debate about the effectiveness of Bargnani as a basketball player because it's not a serious question, but I would be moderately happy to provide mountains of evidence that Bargnani is, in fact, one of the actual worst players in NBA history. I did explain my reasoning in the removal of the Bargnani-related information in my comments on my edit, but I'd be happy to discuss this further. It's simply not accurate to attribute any degree of success on the part of the Toronto Raptors to Bargnani, who is, as I have asserted, one of the most counterproductive players in NBA history. Your response to my original edit, "Regardless, Bargnani still contributed to the Raptors division title in 2007," could apply equally to any 4'10 quadriplegic serving as the 15th man on an NBA team that happens to do well. Merely playing for an NBA team does not entail "contribution" to that team's record of wins against losses.
Johnfloyd6675 ( talk) 06:00, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
It doesn't exactly rhyme with "fight" ? 166.48.169.125 ( talk) 17:39, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
The vowel is not exactly [aɪ̯] ? 198.99.29.15 ( talk) 11:53, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Seven songs use this key. 166.48.181.40 ( talk) 15:20, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
You hear [ɚ̃ kilɔmaɪ̯tʁ] or [ɚ̃ tʃilɔmaɪ̯tʁ] ? It's hard to tell ? 166.48.174.13 ( talk) 02:34, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Countering Systemic Bias for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. –Mabeenot ( talk) 00:54, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
Hey, I see you're one of the main contributors to the Robyn Doolittle article. I added some content from a Flare article which just came out (and which seems to be the first secondary source I can find covering Doolittle's pre-Star years), but it's 3:30 in the morning and I'm not sure how good it is so I'd appreciate if you'd be willing to give it a look over. Also I cited everything in there to that Flare article, because again, 3:30, but it really shouldn't be difficult to get other sources for a lot of the sentences (particularly regarding the timeline of the crack video, for which there's already its own article). I'm a bit Wikipedia'd out right now so I don't know that I'll get to it myself for a day or two, but if you're looking for something to do it's probably best if not the entire article is cited to that one Flare piece. Cheers! Wieno ( talk) 08:38, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
This song is in E minor ? 166.48.189.105 ( talk) 00:32, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
Is there a minor key in 1:32 ? 166.48.180.174 ( talk) 15:35, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
This song is in F# major or D# minor ? It's hard to tell. 166.48.197.237 ( talk) 02:39, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
This song is in A-flat minor ? 166.48.197.165 ( talk) 23:38, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
This song is in F# major ? 162.222.82.25 ( talk) 02:55, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
But not exactly in F# major ? 166.48.173.135 ( talk) 13:39, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
It is close to F major too ? 166.48.184.155 ( talk) 16:44, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
This song is in A major ? 166.48.180.106 ( talk) 03:17, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
The former is in G major and the latter is in F major ? 166.48.193.96 ( talk) 02:14, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
This page says this song is in F major, but that is not true ? 166.48.193.96 ( talk) 21:59, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
This song is between B major and C major ? 166.48.184.120 ( talk) 22:34, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
This key is closer to F major or G-flat major ? 166.48.172.142 ( talk) 02:07, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
The French pronunciation rhymes with "glasses", the Quebec pronunciation rhymes with "size" ? 198.99.29.198 ( talk) 16:05, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
The Quebec pronunciation rhymes with "type" ? 166.48.169.109 ( talk) 13:05, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
The Jèrriais pronunciation is "tor" with a trilled R, the Quebec pronunciation is "toe" ? 166.48.169.109 ( talk) 23:33, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
This man is a bass or a baritone ? 166.48.169.109 ( talk) 03:17, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
In 1:18, it's in F# major or D# minor ? 166.48.182.20 ( talk) 02:42, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Hello. Thank you for using VisualEditor! Having editors use it is the best way for the Wikimedia Foundation to develop it into the best tool it can be.
While we always welcome general feedback (please report any issues in Bugzilla in the "VisualEditor" product or drop your feedback on the central feedback page on MediaWiki.org), the developers are especially interested right now in feedback on the special character inserter. This new tool is used for inserting special characters (including symbols like ₥, IPA pronunciation symbols, mathematics symbols, and characters with diacritics). It is intended to help people whose computers do not have good character inserters. For example, many Mac users prefer to use the extensive "Special Characters..." tool present at the bottom of the Edit menu in all applications or to learn the keyboard shortcuts for characters like ñ and ü.
The current version of the special characters tool in VisualEditor is very simple and very basic. It will be getting a lot of work in the coming weeks and months. It does not contain very many character sets at this time. (The specific character sets can be customized at each Wikipedia, so that each project could have a local version with the characters it wants.) But the developers want your ideas at this early stage about ways that the overall concept could be improved. I would appreciate your input on this question, so please try out the character inserter and tell me what changes to the design would (or would not!) best work for you.
Issues you might consider:
The developers are open to any thoughts on how the special character inserter can best be developed, even if this requires significant changes. Please leave your views on the central feedback page, or, if you'd prefer, you can contact me directly on my talk page. It would be really helpful if you can tell me how frequently you need to use special characters in your typical editing and what languages or other special characters are important to you.
Thank you again for your work with VisualEditor and for any feedback you can provide. I really do appreciate it.
P.S. You might be interested in the current ideas about improving citations, too. Whatamidoing (WMF) ( talk) 00:20, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked on some small changes to the user interface, such as moving the reference item to the top of the Insert menu, as well as some minor features and fixing bugs, especially for rich copying and pasting of references.
The biggest change was the addition of more features to the image dialog, including the ability to set alignment (left, right, center), framing options (thumbnail, frame, frameless, and none), adding alt text, and defining the size manually. There is still some work to be done here, including a quick way to set the default size.
==section headings==
in references), it now strips out the inappropriate HTML.Looking ahead: The link tool will tell you when you're linking to a disambiguation or redirect page. The warning about wikitext will hide itself after you remove the wikitext markup in that paragraph. Support for creating and editing redirects is in the pipeline. Looking further out, image handling will be improved, including default and upright sizes. The developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments, some behavioral magic words like DISPLAYTITLE, and in-line language setting (dir="rtl"
).
If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 04:20, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
This song is between G major and A-flat major. I already know a lot of songs that uses a microtone ! 166.48.189.93 ( talk) 00:05, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
This song is exactly in G♭ major ? 166.48.189.93 ( talk) 01:56, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
This song is in G♭ major or G major ? 166.48.168.39 ( talk) 01:04, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
This key can make someone think of the color purple ? 166.48.185.170 ( talk) 16:48, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
The intro is in B major ? 166.48.168.185 ( talk) 11:26, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
The intro is in which key ? 198.99.28.211 ( talk) 16:39, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
The singing part is in F♯ major, but maybe it's in B major at 0:06 ? 162.222.80.37 ( talk) 12:07, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
The G♭ major and the E♭ minor sound very different ? 198.99.29.206 ( talk) 14:00, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
At 1:35, it's in G♭ major or E♭ minor ? 166.48.169.32 ( talk) 13:01, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
This song is played using black keys or not ? Fort123 ( talk) 13:43, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
First time, you told me that this song is in G major, because you didn't pay attention ? 166.48.185.102 ( talk) 23:34, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
Hi Johnny, I'm writing because you do a lot of edits to the Toronto roads articles. There seems to be three list articles about Toronto roads: List of east–west roads in Toronto, List of north–south roads in Toronto, and List of roads in Toronto. It's the "List of roads in Toronto" article I want your opinion about. I see there was some discussion about merging it on the talk page. It's mostly about diagonal roads, and may be better if it was called "List of diagonal roads in Toronto". And the non-diagonal roads in the article could be moved to the other lists. Also, all three list pages should have "see also" links to the others. Thanks for you opinion. Magnolia677 ( talk) 13:00, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has mostly worked on changes to the template and image dialogs.
The biggest change in the last few weeks was the redesign of the template dialog. The template dialog now opens in a simplified mode that lists parameters and their descriptions. (The complex multi-item transclusion mode can be reached by clicking on "Show options" from inside the simplified template dialog.) Template parameters now have a bigger, auto-sizing input box for easier editing. With today's update, searching for template parameters will become case-insensitive, and required template parameters will display an asterisk (*) next to their edit boxes. In addition to making it quicker and easier to see everything when you edit typical templates, this work was necessary to prepare for the forthcoming simplified citation dialog. The main priority in the coming weeks is building this new citation dialog, with the ultimate goal of providing autofill features for ISBNs, URLs, DOIs and other quick-fills. This will add a new button on the toolbar, with the citation templates available picked by each wiki's community. Concept drawings can be seen at mw:VisualEditor/Design/Reference Dialog. Please share your ideas about making referencing quick and easy with the designers.
__STATICREDIRECT__
, __[NO]INDEX__
and __
[NO]NEWEDITSECTION__
, and more. New keyboard shortcuts are listed there, and include undoing the last action, clearing formatting, and showing the shortcut help window. If you switch from VisualEditor to wikitext editing, your edit will now be tagged.The developers apologize for a regression bug with the deployment on 6 March 2014, which caused the incorrect removal of |upright
size definitions on a handful of pages on the English Wikipedia, among others. The root cause was fixed, and the broken pages were fixed soon after.
Looking ahead: Several template dialogs will become more compact. Looking further out, the developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments. You will be able to see the Table of Contents change live as you edit the page, rather than it being hidden. In-line language setting (dir="rtl"
) may be offered to a few Wikipedias soon.
If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback or by joining the office hours on 19 April 2014 at 2000 UTC. Thank you! MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 22:44, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
They sing in G major, right ? 166.48.189.125 ( talk) 23:03, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
Is there a big difference ? 166.48.168.168 ( talk) 14:57, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
The first video is in A♭ major and the second video is in F major ? 166.48.169.186 ( talk) 12:29, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
I knew that the first video is certainly in A♭ major, but you don't know that the second video is in which key ? 166.48.173.55 ( talk) 19:56, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
Maybe the second video is in G♭ major ? 166.48.173.71 ( talk) 11:43, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
Do you like this key ? This is my favorite key. 166.48.196.96 ( talk) 01:17, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
This song is in G♭ major or G major ? 166.48.180.95 ( talk) 11:32, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
That's my synesthesia. I'm capable to guess the keys, but I only have difficulty to distinguish D major/D♯ major, A major/A♯ major, B minor/C minor and F♯ minor/G minor. When you were 10 years old, you were capable to guess the keys ? 166.48.188.111 ( talk) 00:06, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
Do you have a synesthesia ? 166.48.188.111 ( talk) 11:59, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
Do you have an emotion for the F♯ major ? 166.48.188.111 ( talk) 14:35, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
F major and F♯ major sounds similar for you ? 166.48.174.75 ( talk) 11:19, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
F♯ major or G♭ major ? Which name is more popular ? 166.48.174.75 ( talk) 22:41, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
The F♯ major is present in this song ? 166.48.172.41 ( talk) 00:35, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
At 0:57, the key changes ? 166.48.185.115 ( talk) 12:46, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
Where is the minor key ? The song is in A major, isn't it ? 166.48.185.115 ( talk) 20:32, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
I don't hear a B minor. I hear the A major, F♯ major at 0:57 and G major at 2:57. The B minor is in which part ? 166.48.173.187 ( talk) 02:14, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
This key is neither F♯ major nor G major ? 166.48.173.187 ( talk) 02:29, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
It is in G major at 3:31 ? 166.48.184.79 ( talk) 18:59, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
It is in G major in 3:33 ? 166.48.177.125 ( talk) 11:09, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
The first song is in G major and the second song hasn't not a standard key ? 166.48.177.125 ( talk) 21:30, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
These two songs are in the same key ? 166.48.177.125 ( talk) 12:16, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
Both are in F♯ major, isn't it ? 166.48.177.125 ( talk) 15:01, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
This song is in A major ? 166.48.177.125 ( talk) 15:40, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
F♯ minor ? 166.48.177.125 ( talk) 16:06, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
But the singing part is in another key ? 166.48.177.125 ( talk) 11:13, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
This key's name is "F♯ major 7" ? Fort123 ( talk) 16:30, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
F♯ major with a 7 ? 166.48.177.125 ( talk) 11:14, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
This key is neither F major nor F♯ major. This key has not a name ? Maybe it's "tuned F major" ? 166.48.177.125 ( talk) 16:29, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
The intro is in F minor, it's in B♭ major in 0:11 and it's in D minor in 1:06, right ? 166.48.176.148 ( talk) 02:13, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
It is in F major at 0:13 ? 166.48.192.144 ( talk) 20:21, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
The first video is in G major, but the second video is between G♭ major and G major ? 166.48.177.32 ( talk) 21:47, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
This song is in F major ? 166.48.177.32 ( talk) 00:33, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
The Canadian French pronunciation is [seɪ̯n] or [saɪ̯n] ? 166.48.172.215 ( talk) 02:08, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
Your last name is pronounced [aʊ] ? 166.48.177.32 ( talk) 13:10, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
It's 歐 ? 166.48.177.32 ( talk) 15:43, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
In Cantonese, the word 区 has two pronunciations, [køy] for district and [au] for the last name. 166.48.180.115 ( talk) 15:15, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has mostly worked on performance improvements, image settings, and preparation for a simplified citation template tool in its own menu.
Looking ahead: A new, locally controlled menu of citation templates will put citations immediately in front of users. You will soon be able to see the Table of Contents while editing. Support for upright image sizes (preferred for accessibility) is being developed. In-line language setting (dir="rtl"
) will be offered as a Beta Feature soon. Looking further out, the developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments. It will be possible to upload images to Commons from inside VisualEditor.
If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback or by joining the office hours on Monday, 19 May 2014 at 18:00 UTC. If you'd like to get this on your own page, subscribe at Wikipedia:VisualEditor#Newsletter for English Wikipedia only or at meta:VisualEditor/Newsletter for any project. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) ( talk) 20:23, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
It rhymes with montagne ? 166.48.180.115 ( talk) 11:04, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
This song has a standard key or a microtone (Dm/E♭m) ? 166.48.196.49 ( talk) 21:56, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
This key is slightly closer to F major than it is to G♭ major ? 166.48.170.90 ( talk) 11:20, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
These two songs have a standard key or a microtone ? 166.48.181.176 ( talk) 02:09, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
This song is in a standard key or a microtone ? 166.48.181.176 ( talk) 00:01, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
It's not exactly in F♯ major ? 166.48.181.176 ( talk) 11:02, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
The second video's key is higher than the former ? 166.48.192.166 ( talk) 12:50, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
This song is in E major ? 199.59.76.43 ( talk) 23:07, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
At 4:40 until 5:07, it's in a major key or a minor key ? 166.48.188.186 ( talk) 14:35, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
This song is in a microtone ? 166.48.189.109 ( talk) 01:39, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
This song is in a microtone ? 162.247.121.237 ( talk) 12:13, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
It's in the side of F major ? 162.247.121.237 ( talk) 14:45, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
The difference is clear ? The former sounds like F♯ major and the latter sounds like F major ? 162.247.121.237 ( talk) 01:29, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
The first video is lower than F♯ major ? 162.247.121.237 ( talk) 11:28, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
But I heard a slight difference. Are you certain that the second song´s key is lower than the first video ? Fort123 ( talk) 19:12, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
This song is not exactly in G major ? 162.247.121.237 ( talk) 12:24, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
It sounds a bit like the F♯ major too ? 162.247.121.237 ( talk) 16:32, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
Can you block me please because my internet not good
I'm Fête, the above message is written by my younger brother, so my younger brother wasn't nice, he wanted to block me. 166.48.169.143 ( talk) 20:06, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
Gandrayda is not Fête. 162.247.121.237 ( talk) 11:44, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
At 1:12, the word hiver is pronounced [ivɛːʁ] or [ivaɪʁ] ? 162.246.53.114 ( talk) 15:06, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
Did you know?
The cite menu offers quick access to up to five citation templates. If your wiki has enabled the "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽" menu, press "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽" and select the appropriate template from the menu.
Existing citations that use these templates can be edited either using the "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽" tool or by selecting the reference and choosing the "⧼visualeditor-dialogbutton-reference-tooltip⧽" item in the "Insert" menu.
Read the user guide for more information.
Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has mostly worked on the new citation tool, improving performance, reducing technical debt, and other infrastructure needs.
The biggest change in the last few weeks is the new citation template menu, labeled "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽". The new citation menu offers a locally configurable list of citation templates on the main toolbar. It adds or opens references using the simplified template dialog that was deployed last month. This tool is in addition to the "⧼visualeditor-dialogbutton-reference-tooltip⧽" item in the "Insert" menu, and it is not displayed unless it has been configured for that wiki. To enable this tool on your wiki, see the instructions at VisualEditor/Citation tool.
Eventually, the VisualEditor team plans to add autofill features for these citations. When this long-awaited feature is created, you could add an ISBN, URL, DOI or other identifier to the citation tool, and VisualEditor would automatically fill in as much information for that source as possible. The concept drawings can be seen at mw:VisualEditor/Design/Reference Dialog, and your ideas about making referencing quick and easy are still wanted.
<span lang="en" dir="ltr">English</span>
. This tool is most useful for pages whose text combines multiple languages with different directions, common on Right-to-Left wikis.Looking ahead: The toolbar from the PageTriage extension will no longer be visible inside VisualEditor. More buttons and icons will be accessible from the keyboard. The "Keyboard shortcuts" link will be moved out of the "Page options" menu, into the "Help" menu. Support for upright image sizes (preferred for accessibility) and inline images is being developed. You will be able to see the Table of Contents while editing. Looking further out, the developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments. VisualEditor will be available to all users on mobile devices and tablet computers. It will be possible to upload images to Commons from inside VisualEditor.
If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback or by joining the office hours on Thursday, 19 June 2014 at 10:00 UTC. If you'd like to get this newsletter on your own page (about once a month), please subscribe at w:en:Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Newsletter for English Wikipedia only or at meta:VisualEditor/Newsletter for any project. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 22:16, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
Do you hear [tʀaɛ̯zə] if you slow down the audio using Audacity ? 162.222.81.152 ( talk) 13:26, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
Is there really an [a] before the [ɛ] ? 162.247.122.26 ( talk) 20:51, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
Is there a short [a] ? 162.246.52.229 ( talk) 02:33, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
Ok, but it's actually [tʀɛzə] or [tʀæzə] ? 162.246.52.229 ( talk) 12:59, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
It's [ɑ̃kɛːt], [ɑ̃keɪt] or [ɑ̃kaɪt] ? Fort123 ( talk) 01:15, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
I believe the reason it has not been updated on stats.wikimedia.org is here, if you're interested. Please don't quote me on this; I'm not sure of the details. Of course, the database includes all edits of every page, as well as every log entry. πr2 ( t • c) 03:56, 17 June 2014 (UTC)