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28bytes asked me to take a look at the situation involving Fountainviewkid and other editors. Since this has ended up on noticeboards such as the COI noticeboard, I think that you can safely say you've done your job here and can probably let other people deal with it, since it appears there are administrators aware of it right now. If it's an issue of tone and not outright vandalism, it's okay to sit back and allow others to deal with it if you're in doubt at all (and you did a good job here asking 28bytes when you weren't sure).
I can definitely tell you're doing a whole lot better AGFing and learning the ropes of being a good Wikipedian. One piece of advice I might give you is that, when somebody else gives a warning, such as how Kuru did here: [1] , it's usually not a good idea to immediately add another warning before the person being warned has a chance to respond. That usually makes them feel like they're being targeted by many people and might make them lash out instead of calmly asking what they did wrong. Kansan ( talk) 23:07, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Is BelloWello canvassing?. Lionel ( talk) 22:15, 7 May 2011 (UTC) (Using {{ pls}})
If you have a chance, do you mind looking over this article? I think its ready for mainspace but would like a few more eyes on it to confirm before it is moved. I also plan for a DYK hook out of it. BelloWello (talk) 11:25 pm, Today (UTC−4)
[2]: Usernames are allowed to be similar (and they undoubtedly will be), but only add this template to someone's talk page if you see reason for impersonation. Eagles 24/7 (C) 01:42, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
Please explain this revert. Eagles 24/7 (C) 02:29, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Yes. It looked like vandalism but ultimately, it was just letting off steam, as 28bytes said. Jasper Deng (talk) 03:34, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I thought you were hanging off patrolling for a while? I've just seen your (very fast) CSD at Matt_shrader. Happen I suspect that you were right to CSD on some of the grounds that you mention - but are you sure about G10 and the courtesy page blanking? Looks like some kids fooling around to me. - Sitush ( talk) 01:10, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi Jasper. I thought we were on the same page about patrolling? Meaning you were going to take a break from it for a while and instead read up on the manual of style? 28bytes ( talk) 01:36, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Jeez I'm sorry that happened. It certainly wasn't intentional. I was just about to come here and tell you that when I saw your query on my talk. It's not really my style being an inclusionist and all. I am using Opera and when I "saved" my response to the bloke who asked for an apology it came back with a preview page and the text edit box was blank. Foolishly I hit the save page button and the rest you know. I'll test on a test page and see if I can reproduce the error and let you now. Can we keep the discussion here as I'll put your page in my watch list. Silent Billy ( talk) 02:33, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
I did a very simple test on my talk page and could not duplicate what happened. But another user has suggest that the blanking may have been caused by an edit conflict. I don't know but I will be cautious about this from now on. I hope you are reassured. 02:53, 10 May 2011 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Silent Billy ( talk • contribs)
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Thanks, I know, I'm actually a registered user, just at the library and not signed in, and it just caught my interest as all the Miami-Dade library computers are still XP, and since I was looking up XP here to see how old it was and stuff, I was surprised so it just seemed most fitting to ask the question here. 169.139.19.108 ( talk) 23:31, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Please note that at least one of your recent edits also introduced some extraneous text around some numerical characters. This
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[3]. This may be due to Skype or editing via a proxy, I don't know. I think you know more about this kind of stuff than I do.
Eagles
24/7
(C)
20:04, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Probably. Jasper Deng (talk) 23:35, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
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Jasper, this is a sock situation from some time ago. Myself, SudoGhost & C.Fred saw it through and we're all involved again. My guess is that she'll be blocked before too long. - Sitush ( talk) 05:22, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
I looked at that IP address's other recent contributions and it definitely looks like they were trolling. I see it has now been blocked for a month so yes, I would say you did the right thing. Kansan ( talk) 05:52, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Sorry I'm a little late here. I think it kind of depends on how serious the information is. If it's serious BLP violations, ANI is the place to go. If it's something less serious, it would probably be a case-by-case situation. Could you show me which article it is and what they are putting in? Kansan ( talk) 14:40, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
If this guy reappears after his short block expires and takes back up with his edit warring, you probably should refrain from doing a fourth revert yourself. But if you let me know (or I see for myself) that he is back to more of the same, then of course he's up for a longer block. -- RL0919 ( talk) 00:35, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
An old revert by you [4] has been mentioned at Wikipedia:Help desk#error on your page divorce the United States and User talk:Csol222. PrimeHunter ( talk) 00:31, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
I have been warned about reverting in an edit war with our suspected sockpuppet. Any advice? I know you are under mentoring but you seem to know more than me. What can I do? Fountainviewkid 23:17, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
I knew something was fishy... Jasper Deng (talk) 00:18, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
It appears that you have had some constructive advice for User:Fountainviewkid in the past. Please see User_talk:Fountainviewkid#Southern_Adventist_University. I am not familiar with the article, but he really needs to cite a reliable source or remove the material. Thanks. Mojoworker ( talk) 19:32, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
Jasper, I don't know if you've been following this at Talk:Southern Adventist University and User_talk:Fountainviewkid, but I'm not convinced that the text in contention which is supported by the link to Bluehost.com is a reliable source. This may fall under WP:BURDEN and/or WP:CHALLENGE -- so Tatababy's edit may not actually be edit warring, but a justified reversion. I'm tempted to revert your reversion, but I don't want to step on any toes, so I thought I'd ask you first -- or perhaps you would self revert. I dunno, this whole mess may need to go to WP:RSN or WP:ANI. I'm kinda sorry I got involved in this shitstorm. Mojoworker ( talk) 21:27, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
I'm bringing this to your attention because of your mostly neutral (although mostly adversarial to me..) position on the Southern Adventist University article. This pov was made because Fountainviewkid canvassed for it. Wouldn't this be gaming the system, and what can be done about it? b W 00:32, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
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28bytes asked me to take a look at the situation involving Fountainviewkid and other editors. Since this has ended up on noticeboards such as the COI noticeboard, I think that you can safely say you've done your job here and can probably let other people deal with it, since it appears there are administrators aware of it right now. If it's an issue of tone and not outright vandalism, it's okay to sit back and allow others to deal with it if you're in doubt at all (and you did a good job here asking 28bytes when you weren't sure).
I can definitely tell you're doing a whole lot better AGFing and learning the ropes of being a good Wikipedian. One piece of advice I might give you is that, when somebody else gives a warning, such as how Kuru did here: [1] , it's usually not a good idea to immediately add another warning before the person being warned has a chance to respond. That usually makes them feel like they're being targeted by many people and might make them lash out instead of calmly asking what they did wrong. Kansan ( talk) 23:07, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Is BelloWello canvassing?. Lionel ( talk) 22:15, 7 May 2011 (UTC) (Using {{ pls}})
If you have a chance, do you mind looking over this article? I think its ready for mainspace but would like a few more eyes on it to confirm before it is moved. I also plan for a DYK hook out of it. BelloWello (talk) 11:25 pm, Today (UTC−4)
[2]: Usernames are allowed to be similar (and they undoubtedly will be), but only add this template to someone's talk page if you see reason for impersonation. Eagles 24/7 (C) 01:42, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
Please explain this revert. Eagles 24/7 (C) 02:29, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Yes. It looked like vandalism but ultimately, it was just letting off steam, as 28bytes said. Jasper Deng (talk) 03:34, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I thought you were hanging off patrolling for a while? I've just seen your (very fast) CSD at Matt_shrader. Happen I suspect that you were right to CSD on some of the grounds that you mention - but are you sure about G10 and the courtesy page blanking? Looks like some kids fooling around to me. - Sitush ( talk) 01:10, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi Jasper. I thought we were on the same page about patrolling? Meaning you were going to take a break from it for a while and instead read up on the manual of style? 28bytes ( talk) 01:36, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Jeez I'm sorry that happened. It certainly wasn't intentional. I was just about to come here and tell you that when I saw your query on my talk. It's not really my style being an inclusionist and all. I am using Opera and when I "saved" my response to the bloke who asked for an apology it came back with a preview page and the text edit box was blank. Foolishly I hit the save page button and the rest you know. I'll test on a test page and see if I can reproduce the error and let you now. Can we keep the discussion here as I'll put your page in my watch list. Silent Billy ( talk) 02:33, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
I did a very simple test on my talk page and could not duplicate what happened. But another user has suggest that the blanking may have been caused by an edit conflict. I don't know but I will be cautious about this from now on. I hope you are reassured. 02:53, 10 May 2011 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Silent Billy ( talk • contribs)
(Template removed)
Thanks, I know, I'm actually a registered user, just at the library and not signed in, and it just caught my interest as all the Miami-Dade library computers are still XP, and since I was looking up XP here to see how old it was and stuff, I was surprised so it just seemed most fitting to ask the question here. 169.139.19.108 ( talk) 23:31, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Please note that at least one of your recent edits also introduced some extraneous text around some numerical characters. This
may be due to a combination of your browser and
Skype trying to identify and highlight telephone numbers. Please double-check any edits you may perform that include numbers, as this may introduce unnecessary characters into the page. Thank you. See
[3]. This may be due to Skype or editing via a proxy, I don't know. I think you know more about this kind of stuff than I do.
Eagles
24/7
(C)
20:04, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Probably. Jasper Deng (talk) 23:35, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
A tag has been placed on Sunday School Publishing Board, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect to an article talk page, file description page, file talk page, MediaWiki page, MediaWiki talk page, category talk page, portal talk page, template talk page, help talk, user page, user talk or special page from the main/article space.
If you can fix the redirect to point to a
mainspace page, please do so and remove the speedy deletion tag. However, please do not remove the speedy deletion tag unless you are fixing the redirect. If you think the redirect should be retained as is for some reason, contest the deletion by clicking on the button that looks like this: which appears inside of the speedy deletion (
{{db-...}}
) tag (if no such tag exists, the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate). Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the
the article's talk page directly to give your reasons. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this.
DASHBot (
talk)
18:00, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
Jasper, this is a sock situation from some time ago. Myself, SudoGhost & C.Fred saw it through and we're all involved again. My guess is that she'll be blocked before too long. - Sitush ( talk) 05:22, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
I looked at that IP address's other recent contributions and it definitely looks like they were trolling. I see it has now been blocked for a month so yes, I would say you did the right thing. Kansan ( talk) 05:52, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Sorry I'm a little late here. I think it kind of depends on how serious the information is. If it's serious BLP violations, ANI is the place to go. If it's something less serious, it would probably be a case-by-case situation. Could you show me which article it is and what they are putting in? Kansan ( talk) 14:40, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
If this guy reappears after his short block expires and takes back up with his edit warring, you probably should refrain from doing a fourth revert yourself. But if you let me know (or I see for myself) that he is back to more of the same, then of course he's up for a longer block. -- RL0919 ( talk) 00:35, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
An old revert by you [4] has been mentioned at Wikipedia:Help desk#error on your page divorce the United States and User talk:Csol222. PrimeHunter ( talk) 00:31, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
I have been warned about reverting in an edit war with our suspected sockpuppet. Any advice? I know you are under mentoring but you seem to know more than me. What can I do? Fountainviewkid 23:17, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
I knew something was fishy... Jasper Deng (talk) 00:18, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
It appears that you have had some constructive advice for User:Fountainviewkid in the past. Please see User_talk:Fountainviewkid#Southern_Adventist_University. I am not familiar with the article, but he really needs to cite a reliable source or remove the material. Thanks. Mojoworker ( talk) 19:32, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
Jasper, I don't know if you've been following this at Talk:Southern Adventist University and User_talk:Fountainviewkid, but I'm not convinced that the text in contention which is supported by the link to Bluehost.com is a reliable source. This may fall under WP:BURDEN and/or WP:CHALLENGE -- so Tatababy's edit may not actually be edit warring, but a justified reversion. I'm tempted to revert your reversion, but I don't want to step on any toes, so I thought I'd ask you first -- or perhaps you would self revert. I dunno, this whole mess may need to go to WP:RSN or WP:ANI. I'm kinda sorry I got involved in this shitstorm. Mojoworker ( talk) 21:27, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
I'm bringing this to your attention because of your mostly neutral (although mostly adversarial to me..) position on the Southern Adventist University article. This pov was made because Fountainviewkid canvassed for it. Wouldn't this be gaming the system, and what can be done about it? b W 00:32, 27 May 2011 (UTC)