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Thank you for expressing interest at User:Abd/RfC/Proxy Table in my standing userspace RfC. The first questions to be addressed are at User:Abd/RfC/8.11.08 block, which is a page for the questions and (later) a summary of consensus. Comments and discussion have been begun, by me, at User talk:Abd/RfC/8.11.08 block. Because the first questions address the warning issued to me by Jehochman before the block on 8/11, and should not involve extensive research, I have several times asked Jehochman to comment, but he has declined so far. I have also asked Carcharoth, as suggested by Jehochman, to look at it, but so far he hasn't found time; perhaps he will in the next few days. If you are able to look at the pages ref'd above, and comment regarding the questions, or otherwise as you see fit, it would be appreciated. I am waiting to see if these questions can be resolved and a preliminary consensus found, without going to a wider forum, such as the Village Pump, AN, or a standard user RfC. Thanks for any time you can give this. -- Abd ( talk) 21:12, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
I added the talk section header to better match what seemed to be the comment content. I removed nothing of existing content from anyone. Sorry if in doing so I missed something you were intending. Please revise the section headings to better reflect what you intended. ww ( talk) 17:19, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Administrator William M. Connelly twice deleted my comment on talk:James Hansen stating that even though Hansen is a clown for supporting green radicals who vandalised a British coal power plant, until the mainstream media reports on the subsequent campaign to have him fired we cannot add it to his article (in response to someone wondering if we should).
William M. Connelly has previously posted on talk:Christopher Monckton calling the subject a "rabid septic". When asked why his comment was acceptable but mine was not, he chose to simply delete my question from his talk page, per below.
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk%3AWilliam_M._Connolley&diff=239649126&oldid=239618847
Jaimaster ( talk) 23:54, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
My final warning to you is still in effect. If you continue to disrupt our articles on global warming, I'm going to block you. Raul654 ( talk) 04:56, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
This edit is not disruptive -
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Global_warming&diff=244262247&oldid=244195678
Reverting that section back to the poor state it was in is a waste of everyone's time.
I feel am I being deliberately bullied, and I believe you are knowingly using your admim privleges in an attempt to gain advantage in a content dispute, per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Admin#Misuse_of_tools.
I will start an ANI saying so shortly. Jaimaster ( talk) 05:07, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
The only big worry was the edit warring, which he seems to understand now. Gwen Gale ( talk) 14:47, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
I've commented at the ANI thread here. As I said there, please check in at the ANI thread before editing any global warming related articles. I've also been reviewing your contributions in general, and while you've only been here a short while and haven't had much of a chance to develop other interests, I'd recommend that you broaden your interests into other areas of the encyclopedia. As a new user, focusing on global warming issues, you are not going to make much headway with an aggressive approach like this. You need to focus on talk page discussion of sources before any changes. That is the only way any reputable changes in this area can take place. Carcharoth ( talk) 02:53, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
I don't see any need to limit you to 0rr. However, you might want to try sticking with 1rr as the upper limit, as much as you can, be very clear with your edit summaries along with carefully citing sources and talking about these and wordings on the talk page. Also, if you widen the topics you edit, you'll likely gain more understanding about how to deal with editing disagreements. Gwen Gale ( talk) 14:52, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
See, edit warring involves a lot of intense activity. An editor will visit the article several times a day, trying to make sure that it stays in the "right" state, their preferred version. It is far more powerful to trust the community to maintain the article, to simply make, at an appropriate pace, whatever changes one thinks best at the time, adapting as circumstances change, growing and incorporating what has come along, which is impossible to anticipate, at least in detail. The slower changes take place to the article, the more wide participation there will be. Editing intensely brings out the defenders of an article, the "cabal." (There is no cabal, strictly, but it is sometimes as if there is one.) As soon as an editor thinks that it is crucial that he make this change, now, that he can't let those jerks get away with their blatant whatever-it-is, he's dead meat. Look how much activity there was in Global warming with a very simple edit to a very simple section. Several editors essentially committed themselves to preposterous positions. Boris's edit was the cleanest response, but ultimately not correct. Sourced material, removed for what reason? To avoid controversy? No, not good. As I've mentioned, I've used removal as a tactic, where a cabal insisted on putting in half of what was in the source, omitting anything they didn't like from it, I'd try to put in the rest, and when faced with edit warring to keep it out, I'd then remove it all. They, because the good stuff was really good, they thought, would then put it back in, I'd "complete" what they did, etc. This was in the lead of an article, and the half-quotation really was good for their desired spin. But the completion of the quotation really did, if anything, spin the other way, because the source was critical of their position. At one point I'd moved the material deeper in the article, to address the question of the amount of text necessary to completely address what was in the source. They, then, reinserted the part they liked into the lead, knowing that their target audience would preferentially read the lead. (This was a true cabal, with a paid spinmaster leading it.) They asserted over and over how important this reference was, how notable, how very significant. What happened eventually? The community noticed, other editors came in to keep the full quotation in the lead, where it was damaging to their POV. They tried to remove it from the lead, because of the more extended discussion in the middle of the article. "Redundant," they now said. Of course, they'd been arguing for long how important it was, and the removal didn't fly, and I didn't have to lift a finger. It's still there, in the lead, with more detail deeper in. They kept trying to reword or interpret away the problem parts, but by staying very, very close to the original text, exact quotation for the most part, what I'd set up stuck, it's been stable for, I don't know, nine months now?
Jaimaster, my goal is for the Global warming article to be truly NPOV. My belief, by the way, is that, in the long run, this is more politically effective. It's just like the problem with the definition of global warming. I want my work to be politically effective. What does that mean? It means that it helps society. Helps society in what way? I don't know. I just trust that if people have clear access to good information, verifiable, reliable, they will make better decisions than if the information is predigested to attempt to induce them to come to the "correct" conclusions. The right wing has no monopoly on a distrust of the ability of common people to make good decisions, it's quite common on the left as well. I was initially shocked to discover that organizations which exist to reform democratic institutions don't use democratic process, they almost always use oligarchical governing structures. Why? So that the founders can control them. But wait, don't they trust democracy?
And the simple answer is that, no, they don't. They want "democracy," but only so long as it makes the decisions that they consider correct. And so with Wikipedia articles: editors may want NPOV, as long as it's "scientifically correct." By their standards. -- Abd ( talk) 03:43, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Re-deleted, thanks for pointing this out. -- Skyemoor ( talk) 01:04, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Re [3]: I'm not hysteric, but I may slowly become a cynic. To be honest, 9/11 was barely a blip on the US death statistics, and not that significant even among murders - less than a 20% rise for the year. We only notice these events because they happen in close temporal and spatial proximity. The same number of death spread over a larger area is considered "normal" - in November 2001, probably more people died in traffic accidents than in the WTC.-- Stephan Schulz ( talk) 01:23, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Your edits to the global warming FAQ have been detrimental. Please cease and desist. Raul654 ( talk) 04:54, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
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03:51, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for expressing interest at User:Abd/RfC/Proxy Table in my standing userspace RfC. The first questions to be addressed are at User:Abd/RfC/8.11.08 block, which is a page for the questions and (later) a summary of consensus. Comments and discussion have been begun, by me, at User talk:Abd/RfC/8.11.08 block. Because the first questions address the warning issued to me by Jehochman before the block on 8/11, and should not involve extensive research, I have several times asked Jehochman to comment, but he has declined so far. I have also asked Carcharoth, as suggested by Jehochman, to look at it, but so far he hasn't found time; perhaps he will in the next few days. If you are able to look at the pages ref'd above, and comment regarding the questions, or otherwise as you see fit, it would be appreciated. I am waiting to see if these questions can be resolved and a preliminary consensus found, without going to a wider forum, such as the Village Pump, AN, or a standard user RfC. Thanks for any time you can give this. -- Abd ( talk) 21:12, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
I added the talk section header to better match what seemed to be the comment content. I removed nothing of existing content from anyone. Sorry if in doing so I missed something you were intending. Please revise the section headings to better reflect what you intended. ww ( talk) 17:19, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Administrator William M. Connelly twice deleted my comment on talk:James Hansen stating that even though Hansen is a clown for supporting green radicals who vandalised a British coal power plant, until the mainstream media reports on the subsequent campaign to have him fired we cannot add it to his article (in response to someone wondering if we should).
William M. Connelly has previously posted on talk:Christopher Monckton calling the subject a "rabid septic". When asked why his comment was acceptable but mine was not, he chose to simply delete my question from his talk page, per below.
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk%3AWilliam_M._Connolley&diff=239649126&oldid=239618847
Jaimaster ( talk) 23:54, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
My final warning to you is still in effect. If you continue to disrupt our articles on global warming, I'm going to block you. Raul654 ( talk) 04:56, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
This edit is not disruptive -
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Global_warming&diff=244262247&oldid=244195678
Reverting that section back to the poor state it was in is a waste of everyone's time.
I feel am I being deliberately bullied, and I believe you are knowingly using your admim privleges in an attempt to gain advantage in a content dispute, per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Admin#Misuse_of_tools.
I will start an ANI saying so shortly. Jaimaster ( talk) 05:07, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
The only big worry was the edit warring, which he seems to understand now. Gwen Gale ( talk) 14:47, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
I've commented at the ANI thread here. As I said there, please check in at the ANI thread before editing any global warming related articles. I've also been reviewing your contributions in general, and while you've only been here a short while and haven't had much of a chance to develop other interests, I'd recommend that you broaden your interests into other areas of the encyclopedia. As a new user, focusing on global warming issues, you are not going to make much headway with an aggressive approach like this. You need to focus on talk page discussion of sources before any changes. That is the only way any reputable changes in this area can take place. Carcharoth ( talk) 02:53, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
I don't see any need to limit you to 0rr. However, you might want to try sticking with 1rr as the upper limit, as much as you can, be very clear with your edit summaries along with carefully citing sources and talking about these and wordings on the talk page. Also, if you widen the topics you edit, you'll likely gain more understanding about how to deal with editing disagreements. Gwen Gale ( talk) 14:52, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
See, edit warring involves a lot of intense activity. An editor will visit the article several times a day, trying to make sure that it stays in the "right" state, their preferred version. It is far more powerful to trust the community to maintain the article, to simply make, at an appropriate pace, whatever changes one thinks best at the time, adapting as circumstances change, growing and incorporating what has come along, which is impossible to anticipate, at least in detail. The slower changes take place to the article, the more wide participation there will be. Editing intensely brings out the defenders of an article, the "cabal." (There is no cabal, strictly, but it is sometimes as if there is one.) As soon as an editor thinks that it is crucial that he make this change, now, that he can't let those jerks get away with their blatant whatever-it-is, he's dead meat. Look how much activity there was in Global warming with a very simple edit to a very simple section. Several editors essentially committed themselves to preposterous positions. Boris's edit was the cleanest response, but ultimately not correct. Sourced material, removed for what reason? To avoid controversy? No, not good. As I've mentioned, I've used removal as a tactic, where a cabal insisted on putting in half of what was in the source, omitting anything they didn't like from it, I'd try to put in the rest, and when faced with edit warring to keep it out, I'd then remove it all. They, because the good stuff was really good, they thought, would then put it back in, I'd "complete" what they did, etc. This was in the lead of an article, and the half-quotation really was good for their desired spin. But the completion of the quotation really did, if anything, spin the other way, because the source was critical of their position. At one point I'd moved the material deeper in the article, to address the question of the amount of text necessary to completely address what was in the source. They, then, reinserted the part they liked into the lead, knowing that their target audience would preferentially read the lead. (This was a true cabal, with a paid spinmaster leading it.) They asserted over and over how important this reference was, how notable, how very significant. What happened eventually? The community noticed, other editors came in to keep the full quotation in the lead, where it was damaging to their POV. They tried to remove it from the lead, because of the more extended discussion in the middle of the article. "Redundant," they now said. Of course, they'd been arguing for long how important it was, and the removal didn't fly, and I didn't have to lift a finger. It's still there, in the lead, with more detail deeper in. They kept trying to reword or interpret away the problem parts, but by staying very, very close to the original text, exact quotation for the most part, what I'd set up stuck, it's been stable for, I don't know, nine months now?
Jaimaster, my goal is for the Global warming article to be truly NPOV. My belief, by the way, is that, in the long run, this is more politically effective. It's just like the problem with the definition of global warming. I want my work to be politically effective. What does that mean? It means that it helps society. Helps society in what way? I don't know. I just trust that if people have clear access to good information, verifiable, reliable, they will make better decisions than if the information is predigested to attempt to induce them to come to the "correct" conclusions. The right wing has no monopoly on a distrust of the ability of common people to make good decisions, it's quite common on the left as well. I was initially shocked to discover that organizations which exist to reform democratic institutions don't use democratic process, they almost always use oligarchical governing structures. Why? So that the founders can control them. But wait, don't they trust democracy?
And the simple answer is that, no, they don't. They want "democracy," but only so long as it makes the decisions that they consider correct. And so with Wikipedia articles: editors may want NPOV, as long as it's "scientifically correct." By their standards. -- Abd ( talk) 03:43, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Re-deleted, thanks for pointing this out. -- Skyemoor ( talk) 01:04, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Re [3]: I'm not hysteric, but I may slowly become a cynic. To be honest, 9/11 was barely a blip on the US death statistics, and not that significant even among murders - less than a 20% rise for the year. We only notice these events because they happen in close temporal and spatial proximity. The same number of death spread over a larger area is considered "normal" - in November 2001, probably more people died in traffic accidents than in the WTC.-- Stephan Schulz ( talk) 01:23, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Your edits to the global warming FAQ have been detrimental. Please cease and desist. Raul654 ( talk) 04:54, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Given our past interactions on various topics I thought I would make the following offer.
If you ever have something you want me to offer an opinion on or that you feel I might personally be interested in anywhere on wikipedia, its talk pages, or within any of the official forums such as noticeboards, RfCs, RfAs, and the like, please contact me directly on my talk page and feel free to reference this standing request. I trust your judgment in deciding which topics might be of interest to me, and please keep me informed of any topics in general as well as items specifically involving you personally. -- GoRight ( talk) 01:08, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
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Hi, I'd like to invite you to participate in the Guild of Copy Editors July 2010 Backlog Elimination Drive. In May, about 30 editors helped remove the {{copyedit}} tag from 1175 articles. The backlog is still over 7500 articles, and extends back to the beginning of 2008! We really need your help to reduce it. Copyediting just a couple articles can qualify you for a barnstar. Serious copyeditors can win prestigious and exclusive rewards. See the event page for more information. And thanks for your consideration. ɳorɑfʈ Talk! 14:49, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
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We have reached the midway point in our backlog elimination drive, so here is an update. Participation report — The November drive has 53 participants at this point. We had 77 participants in the September drive. In July, 95 people signed up for the drive, and in May we had 36. If you are not participating, it is not too late to join! Progress report — The drive is quite successful so far, as we have already almost reached our target of a 10% reduction in the number of articles in the backlog. We are doing very well at keeping our Requests page clear, as those articles count double for word count for this drive. Please keep in mind the possibility of removing other tags when you are finished with an article. If the article no longer needs {{ cleanup}}, {{ wikify}}, or other similar maintenance tags, please remove them, as this will make the tasks of other WikiProjects easier to complete. Thanks very much for participating in the Drive, and see you at the finish line!
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We have reached the end of our fourth backlog elimination drive. Thanks to all who participated. Stats
Barnstars If you copy edited at least 4,000 words, you qualify for a barnstar. If you participated in the September 2010 backlog elimination drive, you may have earned roll-over words (more details can be found here). These roll-over words count as credit towards earning barnstars, except for leaderboard awards. We will be delivering these barnstars within the next couple of weeks. Our next drive is scheduled for January 2011. In the meantime, please consider helping out at the Wikification drive or any of the other places where help with backlogs is needed. Thank you for participating in the last 2010 backlog elimination drive! We look forward to seeing you in January! Your drive coordinators – The Utahraptor Talk to me/ Contributions, S Masters ( talk), and Diannaa ( Talk) |
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We have eliminated two months from the backlog – January and February 2009. One of our goals is to eliminate as many months as possible from the 2009 backlog. Please help us reduce the size of this part of the backlog if you haven't already. Another goal is to reduce the entire backlog by 10%, or by 515 articles. Currently, we have eliminated 375 articles from the queue, so if each participant copy edits four more articles, we will reach that goal. Thank you for participating in the January 2011 drive. We anticipate it will be another big success! Your drive coordinators – S Masters ( talk), Diannaa ( Talk), The Utahraptor Talk to me, and Tea with toast ( Talk) |
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The latest GOCE backlog elimination drive is under way! It began on 1 July and so far 18 people have signed up to help us reduce the number of articles in need of copyediting. This drive will give a 50% bonus for articles edited from the GOCE requests page. Although we have cleared the backlog of 2009 articles there are still 3,935 articles needing copyediting and any help, no matter how small, would be appreciated. We are appealing to all GOCE members, and any other editors who wish to participate, to come and help us reduce the number of articles needing copyediting, as well as the backlog of requests. If you have not signed up yet, why not take a look at the current signatories and help us by adding your name and copyediting a few articles. Barnstars will be given to anyone who edits more than 4,000 words, with special awards for the top 5 in the categories: "Number of articles", "Number of words", and "Number of articles of over 5,000 words". |
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The Guild of Copy Editors invites you to participate in their September 2011 Backlog elimination drive, a month-long effort to reduce the size of the copy editing backlog. The drive will begin on September 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and will end on September 30 at 23:59 (UTC). We will be tracking the number of 2010 articles in the backlog, as we want to copy edit as many of those as possible. Please consider copy editing an article that was tagged in 2010. Barnstars will be given to anyone who edits more than 4,000 words, with special awards for the top 5 in the categories "Number of articles", "Number of words", and "Number of articles of over 5,000 words". See you at the drive! – Your drive coordinators: Diannaa, Chaosdruid, The Utahraptor, Slon02, and SMasters. |
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Elections are currently underway for our third tranche of Guild coordinators. The voting period will run for 14 days: 00:01 UTC, 16 December – 23:59 UTC, 31 December. All GOCE members, as well as past participants of any of the Guild's Backlog elimination drives, are eligible to vote. There are five candidates vying for four positions. Your vote really matters! Cast your vote today. |
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Guild of Copy Editors 2011 Year-End Report
We have reached the end of the year, and what a year it has been! The Guild of Copy Editors was full of activity, and we achieved numerous important milestones in 2011. Read all about these in the Guild's 2011 Year-End Report.
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