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I am offended by your make it into high school comment in the Jose of the Future deletion page. I am going to publish this book soon enough. As for you: tell me why you did this at User Talk: FE411.
The article Woburn Gifted clearly does not fall under the description "it is an article about a real person that does not assert the importance or significance of the subject," with which you tagged it. It is an article about a school department. Please be more considerate with your use of these tags. But welcome to Wikipedia and good luck. Christopher Parham (talk) 05:11, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
Copyright issues are tricky. As per my comment on the deletion page- The label may be non-profit, but the boltfish site clearly asserts copyright (scroll to bottom of page) and has the same text as Wiki article [ [1]] -- JJay 23:17, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
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Hey there! Thanks for helping out with creating AfDs. The one you made for Pandilla Graphica seems to refer to a nonexistent article. Which article was it that you wanted to set the AfD for? -- HappyCamper 00:30, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for working on RC Patrol to catch copyvios. You might also want to consider plinking the uploading user's page with {{ nothanks-sd}}. I went ahead and used it on the anon's page. It's not a huge deal, I only just used it for the first time on the anon that uploaded that article, but I'd like to encourage other users to consider using it as well, just to help spread the gospel of trying to avoid copyright infringements. Keep up the good work! Ëvilphoenix Burn! 06:23, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
...for extensive work on VFD.
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23:45, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
Your French?. C'est magnifique! -- JJay 21:16, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
thanks for reverting the vandalism on my user page. At least we can't deny the guy/girl's got perseverance. DocendoDiscimus 17:44, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
I am sorry it looks like a flame war. I am trying my best to continue to keep my responses to JM as civil as possible, under the circumstances. I know they have accused me of calling them names. The record shows, however, this is untrue.
I have suggested that their edits, and attempts to subvert wiki procedures, give the strong appearance of bad faith. I stand by that. I don't think I am doing the wikipedia community any good by enduring their attacks without comment.
As you can see they have been attacking me personally, my judgement, maturity, grammar, intellectual honesty. And they have been following me around, and slapping bogus {copy-vio}, {AfD}, {npov}, {disputed} tags on just about every article I touch. Or they make massive excisions, unexplained, or with bald explanations like "removing obvious bias". Believe me, it is extremely unpleasant.
I know it is unpleasant to watch a flame war. But I don't think I am flaming back.
I went through almost whole week of unpleasantness from them, misrepresentations of what I said, ignoring my attempts to reach compromise, while I continued to reply in a textbook manner of conciliation and assuming good will. Or, at least, that is how I remember it. Finally their misrepresentations on the {copy-vio} page caused me to be prepared to be more blunt. And I openly said I thought they were giving the appearance of bad faith.
JM is following me around, and every article they see me edit they consider making a target for deletion. This phase of their attacks has been going on for six days now. And my well of ability to "assume good will" on their part is pretty well exhausted. Yes, I reply to those, I reply to their bogus {npov} tags, their bogus {disputed} tags, their unexplained massive excisions. Under the circumstances I think I am as civil as anyone could reasonably expect from me. Could I be wrong about that? Sure. I won't ask you to give our exchanges a more than cursory study. But, if you do give it a more than cursory study, and still think I should be more moderate in my replies to them, please feel free to tell me.
A couple of days ago they made a series of responsible mature edits. And since they were making comments in the talk pages to draw people's attention to the responsible efforts they made I gave them some sincere praise and encouragement, to show that I could assume good will as soon as they started acting responsibly. It seems to have backfired. It seems to have just triggered a further barrage of attacks.
I didn't paste the contents of Bush on the Couch into Justin Frank. You and I started editing out the obvious malice from the Justin Frank article at the same time. You finished first, when you scaled it back to a mere stub. I finished second, with my removal of the attacking material. Do you think I should revert my edit, back to your stub, to accomodate JM?
Do you think I should roll it back to your stub in case the result of the {AfD} is a delete? I think that deletion is unlikely at this point.
But, if you really think it is well advised to scale Justin Frank back to a mere stub, I will do so.
Thanks for your removal of the personal attack. -- Geo Swan 17:44, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
Just wondering, why did you move Indu to [ [2]]? It seems very strange. Thelb ' 4 16:22, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I've modified AFD:Al-Zubair with facts and references. It would be nice if you can spare some time to read it, and hopefully to reconsider its deletion (or make some comments on my talk page). -- Goldie (tell me) 22:18, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Is there any reason why you removed a comment on this page? They should be left there as part of the public record. If it was because the comment was not signed, the proper resonse would have been to add the unsigned template. -- JJay 13:57, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
My apologies, shoddy editing, I did not intend to remove the comment. Rjayres 16:12, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
Hallo JJay
Because of the articles (Iraqi Kurdistan front), (Action Party for the Independence of Kurdistan), (Conservative Party of Kurdistan), (Kurdistan National Democratic Union), (Kurdish Revolutionary Hizbullah), (Kurdistan Revolutionary Party) and (Kurdistan Socialist Democratic Party) I would like to say to them that the author John E. Pike permission given only whom John E. Pike mentioned becomes
Iraqi Kurdistan Front (Kurdish: Berey Kurdistani Iraq) In 1988 the Kurdistan Democratic Party, the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, the KPDP, the Kurdistan Democratic Party of Iran, and the Popular Alliance of Socialist Kurdistan together formed the Iraqi Kurdistan Front and and and and and
See also author: John E. Pike
Please again back the article (I thanks you) melat 16:35, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
The author (John E. Pike) permitted only to whom its name in the article be stand you understand
JJay see Iraqi Kurdistan Front
you understand now
Hi HappyCamper
Die ganze zeit versuche ich JJay zur erklären das diese Artikel nur veröffentlichen darf wen der Autor des Artikel John E. Pike im Artikel stehet. ich habe gerade eine Beispiel gemacht in dem ich Iraqi Kurdistan Front veröffentlichte und gezeigt habe wo der Autor des Artikel stehen soll aber es wurde wieder gelöscht schau einfach rein. melat(UTC)
I have a feeling that none of that site's content is permissible on Wikipedia and will likely be deleted, if not by me, then by another admin. I've put in a request for Angr to take a look at it because he can speak German very well. See the bottom of his talk page for more details.
By the way, thanks for all your work with tagging copyrighted material on Wikipedia. It's a big help around here. :-) -- HappyCamper 20:11, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
Could you kindly go back and have a look at it now! It is still very basic; but perhaps restoring the "stub" tag would help. At this stage it seems a pity to lose the links, since they may help competent editors to expand the article. (Not that they themselves cannot find them, if they have the time to make a search.) Many thanks! 09:13, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
You listed this article for CSD, and it was so speedied. The discussion at WP:DRV#Modojo for 3 Nov concludes this speedy was in error: you may like to have a look at the discussion. In general you should not list an article for CSD with half an hour of its creation, and particularly not if it is receiving many edits, even if the article would otherwise qualify. --- Charles Stewart 15:26, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
I take issue with this comment "Bad faith nom per Geo Swan. -- JJay 15:22, 5 November 2005 (UTC)" As I said over there, before (or in this case after) you accuse someone of bad faith, why not look at the article, as it existed when the AfD was made. In this case, here is the original text:
Executive Order 12333 extends the powers and responsibilities of US intelligence agencies and directs the leaders of other US federal agencies to co-operate fully with CIA requests for information.
That was it, verbaitm. Is that "encyclopedic"? While we are on the subject, please take a look at the dozens of poorly written articles that Geo Swan has put up, including the ones I have taken the time to fix. I can't keep up with him. Cleanup tags don't work. AfD's don't work. The talk page does not work. For example, please look at the before and after (my edits and his originals) on
There's a lot more, but... this should be enough for now. Joaquin Murietta 16:13, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
Would you please take a look at Juma Mohammed Abdul Latif Al Dossary, at both versions and give us your considered advice. I edited the article and Geroge reverted it. I think that his version has clear spelling errors and POV issues. If you run google on the subject's name, Wikipedia] is the first entry, so I think the article should be stronger. Joaquin Murietta 16:56, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
I have deleted The Video Surveillance of Presidents by the Justice Department. In the speedy tag and the talk page you refer to an AfD debate but don't link to it. It is not at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Video Surveillance of Presidents by the Justice Department. So where is it? -- RHaworth 18:11, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
Why do you keep vandalizing my pages? -- Beatyou 03:44, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
I had a conversation with the copyright holder. It can be seen in the Helpdesk-l mailing list archives here, following the "next message" link at the bottom. Generally, don't remove copyvio listings unless you are 100% sure the content was GFDL-licensed. Cheers, [[Sam Korn]] 16:12, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
Same goes for Ryan Lake. Do some research before you wantonly tag these things.
I think you're right. I could have sworn I did a cursory search to check the basic facts about the guy when I initally reverted vandalism on him, but it looks like I didn't. Google seems to get only wikimirors and non-related things. Go ahead an AfD. I'll support, unless someone can establish that he is a writer for the Village Voice (though whether that's sufficient notability is also debatable). - R. fiend 23:50, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
The Aetna information I added to thier site was from internal documents as an employee. I am using information we have for press releases and media, so all the info I added to the Aetna site was information that Aetna allows to be published to press, etc. Wikipedia would be considered that.
But the Footballers Wives information, you deleted storylines that were on a fan site that I updated and changed so it wasnt copy and paste and also deleted the following, all of which were not copyrighted: Footballers Wives: Extra Time With the success of Footballers Wives came the spinoff series, Footballers' Wives: Extra Time that began on ITV2 on 26 May 2005. It aired after Series Four of the original and many cast members, including Amber, Harley, Shannon, Bruno, Lucy and Seb, appeared on the series. It ran for 12 episodes.
Foreign Audience Footballers Wives currently airs in Sweden, Australia, Netherlands, Finland and Hungary. It began in the United States in the summer of 2005 on BBC America. It aired Series One & Two and Series Three is scheduled to premiere on 3 February 2006.
DVD Release Series One - Three have been released on DVD in the United Kingdom. Series Four has only been released in Australia. It will be released in the U.K. on 27 March 2006. Series One was also released in the U.S.
Mark concerning the storylines, its ok to draw on stuff from websites, just don't take it word for word. Rewrite it so it doesn't sound like advertising copy and then cite the source as a link (and try to use mainstream sources).
With the Kent School District, I thought the legal stuff was a good addition but maybe a bit too long. If it can be condensed it would be more effective. Also links to sources or opposing viewpoints are obviously a plus.
Anyway I didn't mean to come down on you and I realize you didn't know the policy on copyvios (which are one of my pet peeves). I've made plenty of mistakes too. Wikipedia can be complicated but its fun and I know you'll enjoy contributing. Welcome aboard. -- JJay 01:54, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
Hello Cryptic. What's the policy on use of material from www.wga.hu. I've noticed that numerous verbatim articles and images are being submitted from this site. They state their policy as follows:
Does Wikipedia have blanket approval for using this material? Also, www.wga.hu provides extensive references for their content, which they themselves may or may not have permission to use. See sources [ [8]]. At the very least, shouldn't Wikipedia's use of this content be clearly acknowledged on article talk pages. -- JJay 19:08, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your speedy response. I've reviewed the new pages submitted by Attilios so far this month. The following are all copyvios from www.wga.hu without any reference on the article talk pages:
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There are probably many more if I look at edits from Attilios in October or earlier. Unless www.wga.hu has released their database under GFDL, I think we need to state clearly where we are getting our material (particularly as none of the articles have links or sources). Could you let me know how to proceed? I don't really want to tag all this as copyvios, but I will without a clear direction on policy. -- JJay 01:26, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your response. Enthusiasm is good and I'm not accusing you of fraud or anything like that. I am contacting www.wga.hu to secure GFDL permission for all the articles submitted as well as future content. They may very well grant permission for this. In that case, the main thing that needs to be done is to acknowledge the permission on the article talk pages. If they refuse permission, though, then I'm afraid that the copyright material would have to be removed from the articles. -- JJay 19:43, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
You voted "strong keep" because you suspected bad faith on that vote. I think you are mistaken - according to wikipedia a list can be immediately revoted for deletion if there was a no "consensus" - which there was in the last case. Clearly, with so many DELETE votes now, the call for revote was a good call. Please reconsider your vote for "stong keep" as it will probably slow down the process for the deletion of this - as it may create another "no consensus" - thank you for reading. 65.9.143.84 20:13, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
Hi - Appearances notwithstanding, I didn't actually mean to single you out in my comment. I apologize if you took this as a personal comment. By and large, I really don't care for any of the "intersection" categories. I'm not sure what to do about this (it's irked me for quite some time), but in this specific instance there seems to be a claim that this category carries an inherent anti-LGBT POV. It might - but, it might not as well. In any event, I thought a personal message about this might be warranted. -- Rick Block ( talk) 05:38, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
User talk:67.171.237.88 created Category:LGBT murderers this morning, you may want to cfd it or watch it so you know when its been cfded. Arniep 16:00, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
Hi, the sock puppet you spotted, the nominator of Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2005_November_18#List_of_Jewish_jurists (your comment:Strong Keep. Changing my vote. Don't like anon noms here + 2nd anom vote, both out of Atlanta.-- JJay 05:55, 23 November 2005 (UTC)) is back at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2005_November_26#List_of_Jewish_American_scientists Thanks Arniep 01:09, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
Is you. That was a great response to IZ or whatever his name is on the deletion page for the Jewish categories. I too am sick of the constant nominations and I have been a very strong supporter of categories for every single religious and ethnic group (I was behind Spanish-Americans and Portuguese-Americans, among others). Way to go and it's pretty clear, based on the votes, that these categories aren't getting deleted. I'm just worried that we are now going to get every single Jewish category nominated separately, in which case I am pretty sure that I am just going to remove the AFD on grouds of Extreme Annoyance and the heck with the consequences. Vulturell 07:35, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
Two users in particular The Literate Engineer & Voice of All(MTG) have apparently made it their duty to get rid of the list and they have been using underhanded tactics in an attempt to do so in any way they can.
But word is getting out, and supporters of the list are starting to rally against them and protect the list (via rerverting vandalism, countering their tactics, etc.).
The following anonymous clean-up notice was posted to the list on November 1st:
23:44, 1 November 2005 68.17.227.41
The notice was placed without group consensus, and there was no edit comment. Pretty sneaky.
This was the user's only edit. Nothing before or after. A sock-puppet.
That's 10 votes to keep, out of which 3 voted to clean up. Seven out of ten clearly voiced their desire to retain the list without deleting its entries.
Voice of All(MTG) reported the results as " ", and he and The Literate Engineer used that as the basis to erase the content of the list, which they did in successive edits.
During the 10 November AfD discussion, Voice of All(MTG) moved the list to the new article name sexual slang, citing the introduction at the top of the list as the basis for the move ("it is more than a list"). Several users then used the article title as an argument against including any list entries.
When an article is moved, the change history is moved with it, and a redirect is placed under the original article's title. If the redirect is edited, then the article cannot be moved back. That is exactly what has happened to the list. See Wikipedia:Merging and moving pages for more information.
The change history of the list is currently stranded as the change history of Sexual slang.
The content of the list itself has been restored to List of sexual slang, where it was originally. This preserves the spirit of the results of the two AfD discussions mentioned above.
Remember, the three reversion limit does not apply when reverting vandalism. Only if enough concerned users participate will this be successful.
Thank you for taking the time to read this letter. Red Rover 21:58, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
JJay can you have a look at the discussion here User_talk:OwenX#User:StabRule. User:StabRule has now placed a third vote on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Jewish jurists and Owenx for some reason is refusing to even warn the user, I don't understand whats going on here. Arniep 22:15, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
I hearby award you these non-yellow tennis-balls of friendship.
And for your clothing preference: http://www.tenniscompany.com/images/Clothing_Volkl_BlackShorts.JPG
Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 19:03, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
What in the world are you referring to? Do you really expect me to know what you're talking about? john k 00:35, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Looking at it now, I have no idea how the revert came about. I was not attempting to revert at all, simply to add a period. I suppose I must have been looking at an old version of the article, or something. At any rate, it was an accident, and I would appreciate it if you didn't make accusations against me, without any specifics, and then refuse to even explain what you mean. john k 04:09, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
If you had simply said what you were referring to, I would not have responded with annoyance. As it was, I was standing accused of something which I had no memory of doing. Obviously, I was somewhat careless in accidentally reverting. If you had cited the change and asked me why I reverted in your initial comment, I would have quickly seen that I made a mistake, and apologized. As it stands, I'm not going to apologize for anything, because you've been a dick about the whole thing. john k 05:23, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Okay, I may have been a bit quick off the handle here. I apologize for being rude, and I shouldn't have called you a dick. That said, your original comment was one about what was obviously an inadvertent reverting mistake - even if the revert itself had been purposeful, it can be presumed that I wasn't trying to change usage back to "oppresicly." As such, it was, from the beginning, quite likely that I would not be able to gather what you were talking about from your initial comment. This would have been easily solved by you simply saying what you were talking about. I (perhaps rather rudely) responded, indicating that, indeed, I did not know what you were talking about. In your second comment, you continued to refuse to indicate what you were talking about, forcing me to go back through the contributions list and figure out what was going on. Once again, all that would have been necessary to prevent this entire unfortunate exchange would have been if you had simply indicated the article you were referring to in your first comment to me. Most of the unpleasantness could have been prevented if you had simply linked me after my first comment. Basically, people do a lot of stuff on wikipedia. If you provide a completely out of context statement on a talk page, you ought not be surprised that the person you are speaking to does not know what you are referring to. If that out of context statement is a criticism, you ought not be surprised that the person responds somewhat hostilely. And if you continue to act as though they should automatically know what you're talking about, after they've indicated that they don't, you ought not be surprised that they react even more hostilely. This is not to defend my conduct in this exchange - I have clearly not handled this very well - but just to say that my conduct does not arise out of natural irascibility, but as a fairly predictable result of the way you have dealt with this issue. john k 06:35, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi, you may be interested in this: Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Antidote. I would appreciate if you could endorse the dispute at Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Antidote#Users_certifying_the_basis_for_this_dispute Thanks, Arniep 15:14, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
I acknowledge that you may be right as for the Hilton Becker thing: I'm a little preoccupied today, and may not have given the merits of the article proper consideration relative to its flaws.
Once I'm finished with my today's (paying) project, I'll go over the relevant pages more carefully and perhaps undelete the page. Or perhaps I'll leave it deleted, but either way I'll let you know. Okay? DS 18:04, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
I'm making them - see Stanford Ovshinsky - so if you have time go ahead and help me out. Antidote 23:32, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
It's pretty funny that Antidote recently made Category:Slovak inventors and Category:Serbian inventors under an anon ip and another of his interestingly named accounts User:EscapeArtistsNeverDie, and just said "one does not wish to start a revolution of ethnic battling on wikipedia with List of German inventors, List of Chinese inventors, and List of Native Inuit Eskimo inventors". LOL Arniep 20:46, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
So how far did it get? Can those articles stay? I would like to end it once and for all. Renata3 22:14, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
I'd just like to say 'thanks' for defending List of fictional Elvis impersonators. I am the creator (something I'm not pointing out on the VfD page), but I am by no means the only contributor. I admit it's not something of striking importance, but it's good to know there are other people who consider it worth keeping. - Litefantastic 00:43, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
Please do not delete us. There are tons of Ghava™ collaborators listed on Wikipedia that discuss projects in which Ghava™ has been involved in creatively. We are in the process of adding more information discussing the art exhibitions GHava™ has been involved with domestically as well as internationally.
On a separate note, The Designers Republic are listed here. Why is GH avisualagency™ being marked for deletion. GHava™ is the same type of collective and have collaborated with many of the same people. This is not making any logical sense.-- lerner
I have created an article about the England cricketer called Barry Wood (cricketer). If the current article in the namespace is deleted as seems likely, I would like to move the article about the cricketer into the namespace. Most of the What Links Here for Barry Wood are for the cricketer. Capitalistroadster 09:50, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi JJay,
You voted keep on Consumerpedia. I have lodged a comment on that page disagreeing, with a bit of new information. Please reconsider your vote. Thanks!
DanKeshet 22:12, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
I know we've never seen eye to eye, but they're trying to delete this article. Deleting it and keeping NA and Black American lists is just racist IMHO. Gateman1997 00:42, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I think it would be a pity to have this disappear but it has to be reduced in size to meet wiki standards. The easiest would be to turn it into a top level page pointing to 26 alphabetical linked pages. But I think added value would be got by breaking it down by arrondissement - you ask how would this make it smaller and it's true that some streets would duplicate over of the 20 arrondissement but, even still, each of the 20 articles would be close to the recommended 30K or so. The two solutions are complementary rather than mutually exclusive. Dlyons493 Talk 11:07, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
I mentioned it because that particular construction is rather confusing. Expand is obviously a keep-style comment, but you didn't actually say "and delete unless expanded", you just offered delete as another, opposing, option. It would have been clearer had you expanded the article (or phrased differently). On the broader point, I personally think those who say an article should be expanded should do some of the legwork they are mandating. That's just a personal opinion, though. - Splash talk 01:14, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for switching to the correct template! Bjelleklang - talk 06:12, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
i read your comment on the GH avisualagency AfD page and saw that you have extensive experience on here. i am trying to contribute to the GH article but everyone on the discussion page keeps giving me the wrong advice. most insisted that i have to prove notability, then they said that it was wrong to list articles about the collective. i don't know who to believe as they all keep leading me astray. if you could please offer me any advice on how to make the article better or make any adjustments yourself i would sincerely appreciate it. even if it does get deleted, at least i will have known that i tried my best to make it a better article. thanks so much.
Inspectorpanther 16:38, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
Cheers! -- Ezeu 14:41, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi JJay. The guy is obviously getting bothered by your replying to a bunch of his votes on AfD, so see if you can refrain doing it, as things are better when things are mellow. Thanks! Proto t c 15:13, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
Wondering what you think of exploding animal now? CanadianCaesar The Republic Restored 20:47, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi, how do you go about getting an undeletion vote? The above article was deleted with a 10 Keep/Merge to 12 Delete vote, which sure as hell aint the two thirds majority supposedly needed! Jcuk 07:32, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
Hmm... so what's the difference in correct usage between copyvio and db-copyvio? Melchoir 08:01, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
OK, so I mistagged something a few minutes after entry. I err on the side of dropping an SD tag on most of the questionable Newpage stuff I find. If anything, this appears to be my third mistagged speedy delete out of 471 speedies (inclusive of those three), so overall it's not so bad. Heck, that's better than the US Army right now. It sounded like a stack of nonsense to begin with, and I admit I should've googled it, but I went to Allmusic first and there was no entry for them. That said, I don't think that the album itself needs an entry. Overall, the group doesn't meet WP:MUSIC either, so I'm going to keep an eyeball on it for a little while. RasputinAXP talk contribs 14:20, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
1. The AfD discussion was not closed at the point I posted to it, nor was it closed (according to my browser) when I exited it. I assume, this having happened before, that there is some lag time between when an article is closed and when that closure is effective. Whatever the case, I know what I am doing, and at the time I posted my comment, the AfD was still open for comment. I feel no need to apologise for technical issues.
2. I have no idea whether you are just now completing junior high (or whatever you call it where you live) or if you have a Master's degree. I did not venture a guess on that in my post. I can speak only for my experience, not for yours. My remarks concerning your school experience are entirely relevant. Those people who remain connected with their schools have an entirely different perception of the importance of that school than those who do not. Were I to learn that you have not been in touch with your high school since the day you walked out the door, I wouldn't touch your perception as far as I could hurl it. On the other hand, if you have continued to maintain touch with staff and former students, or if you have a child who is attending this school, I would be more than willing to give credence to your account (while still subjecting it to the necessary requirements of noteworthiness).If you are indeed "surrounded by other snickering acne-covered juveniles, many of whom will go on to become distinguished alumni, notable enough to warrant mention on a wikipedia page", you may wish to reconsider an article when in fact these juveniles are actually "distinguished".
Wikipedia is not a crystal ball.
3. My perspective is well outside the mainstream? Nice try. While school debates are regularly closed with no consensus, it is extremely rare that they are closed with consensus. Heretical? You've only been here a few weeks. I will allow you the right to be wet behind the ears.
4. I beg mercy for the inability to read your mind. "...while I was adding information..." is not exactly a good reason for me to be shouting hurrahs for the completeness of this article. Moreover, your implicit criticism of my inability to type is petty at least.
If you can find me a notable high school beside which I may be properly recondite, fine. I have no issue with articles on schools which are properly notable, and that notability may occur for several reasons. I will not, however, accept, as you appear to, that a school is notable merely because there are students in the building. This is an encyclopedia, not a yellow pages. We require that individuals, bands, businesses, and web sites show some degree of worthiness for inclusion in Wikipedia. In my judgement, if a school has not been deemed worthy of inclusion in some non-school documentation, then it is not worthy of inclusion here. I trust you understand my position now. Please enlighten me on yours.
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I had noticed you regularly vote to keep almost every article on WP:VFD, especially lists of X. I can assure you that to keep open ended and popular enough list is very hard and unpleasant experience. Maybe if you try to do it yourselves you may change your opinion.
It is quite common for novices to forget encyclopedia is not repository of everything. The task of VFD should be to give more experienced people tool to stick with WP rules and aims. Pavel Vozenilek 03:03, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for being one of the few people who found us interesting enough to keep in the discussion about deleting S23 Wiki. Mutante23 08:12, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
Mr/Ms JJay thank you for your almost sole vote to keep my article Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Promises of troop withdrawal by American presidents. FYI, I have given up on the article, attempted to mend fences with the perp who started this, and now will include the info in Election promise.
I also really liked your wit in the above post when the guy accused you of being a novice because you almost always vote to keep an article. Thank you sir/ma'am. Travb 12:43, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
I posted my Google search results to the talk page. User:Dzonatas created this page and three templates last night as a result of a discussion about copyediting Joan of Arc.
He asserts that the United States Securities and Exchange Act of 1934 is a usage guideline for medieval history articles. "Forward-looking statement" is not a linguistics term. To toss this together with "gerund" and assert it has anything to do with centuries-old subjects is WP:Complete Bollocks. The term has a very narrow technical application in United States financial law. Either this editor is very confused or it's a deliberate attempt to snow people. Durova 18:56, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
Just wanted to say awesome job on the copyedit and merging! Nice work. Tom Foolery 00:18, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
I understand your position (I've seen it e.g., at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/TEACCH) and respect you vote. I just want to let you know that I knew what I was doing when I was nominating this page. I could have explained you in more detail, but at the moment it will be just waste of our time. Cheers, mikka (t) 03:30, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for helping out on that article. The supporters to keep it really appreciate the feedback, especially me. However, it has, unfortunately been deleted. One of the Wikipedians' rationale for deleting it was the paper thing, and 'that it justifies POV?' Well, as I previously stated, the article could've been edited to conform to NPOV. But you can't stop a deletionist any way you try in most cases. I supposes deletionism is predominant among members of Wikipedia, and thus it would be very difficult to keep any article, even with diligence. I just don't seem do understand it in most cases. But anyway, thank you for all the feedback you offered us Inclusionists, and others against deleting that informative article. Эйрон Кинни 04:36, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
On December 21, you voted on this AfD, stating "Weak keep and cleanup. May be notable as president of the Federation. Need some Australian input."
At the moment, it's 4-2 including your vote, so it's at risk of being a no-consensus keep. Every Australian to vote has voted delete, as he's not notable here. More importantly, however, the article isn't in any way verifiable, and it concerns me that such an article might be kept. Would you consider changing your vote? Ambi 09:17, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
Please reconsider your vote at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Crabtree. I believe the subject of the article being AFDed is not the same person as the Guardian author. His blog seems even less than non-notable, and the article completely vanity. Please see the updates I've posted at the AFD. Thanks. Blackcats 22:47, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
Well, I now know personally that you do vote to delete articles, Have you considered the merge option? I have added some comments to the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of U.S. foreign interventions since 1945 page which may help change your mind. Travb 01:15, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
Nobody ever said look was a criteria for deletion. We were merely poking fun. We are allowed to have fun, aren't we? Search 4 Lancer 07:50, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for your comment. Regards, Durova 17:27, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
Hey there, thanks for merging the headmaster thing... I wasn't sure what to do there, but the headmaster part I thought would look weird because I just realised I don't have the full list of headmasters from both the high school and junior school and I thought it might look rather dumb... I'll get the full list for the past 176 years and then post it... -- KryptonZone 12:34, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
Yeah agreed, I will be able to stick it in, only 9 for the high school and like another 6 or 7 for the junior school. Thanks for the help anyways, it's really nice :) -- KryptonZone 13:02, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi JJay,
Tally count is 10 keep votes, 6 merge votes, and 1 delete. Majority vote 59%. Merge is not very similiar to keep, because the content is brought over to another article, and the original article deleted/redirected. No consensus is just something academic, because by default it is a "keep" conclusion de facto. So there. :)
Let me know if you need further clarification on my talkpage.
- Greetings!, Mailer Diablo 19:16, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your comment. I only disputed the inaccurate claim that Marx converted from Judaism: it is misleading to claim that a baptism in childhood in an irreligious family constitutes a conversion. --- Charles Stewart 19:46, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks kindly for the heads-up. I definitely had to weigh in there. I agree that he's kind of a borderline case, but for me he's at least marginally on the keep side too. Bearcat 05:43, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for improving this. I've noticed, that lately you've been one of the top, new school article improvers around here; which is nice to see . -- Rob 03:25, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
No sweat. Even if you don't sign up, you're always welcome contribute to it, in any area, like the notable alumni info I'm gathering there. -- Rob 06:42, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
Added: If you are really keen on saving speedied articles, you may wish to check out Wikipedia:Watch/schoolwatch/New, as the red-links are generally speedied articles. Often the entire contents are so small they are included in the deletion summary (which you can view). You'll never catch ever speedy-tagged article before delete, so it's worthing noting they're still "saveable" after (mostly, not always). -- Rob 07:38, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
JJay,
I've noticed that you're a bit, well, terse in AfD discussions. There are several reasons that this is less than desirable, most of which I've already mentioned. However, it also lends to the less-than-collegial atmosphere of the discussions. We expect that people who nominate will take a little bit of time to explain why they think something should be deleted, and anyone else who takes part in the discussion should also make some effort to add something other than a naked vote. -
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I wish you hadn't removed my speedy req on the List of insider traders page I started. I want to go back to the drawing board on that one. I think the categories and lists of market stuff are not in good shape, or at least I have a lot of trouble navigating through things that should be related, but I now reckon what I started won't improve the situation. The problems will be with charges being brought as other offences (say securities fraud in the US, I think), with how widespread insider trading was reputed to be in the US in the 1920s (but which will be very difficult to prove enough to add a pejoritive like insider trader to people from that time), and with closely related scandals missed for not quite being literally insider trading (I'm thinking for instance of Sumitomo copper here). So, as I say, I want to revert and look probably at improving the categories, then think carefully about what manual summaries could be maintained. -- Kevin Ryde 01:14, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
Please remember to be civil. Your latest comments were in violation of that rule. Also your comment was not changed, the categorization it had incorrectly placed on the AFD was. Please note the difference as you had placed that AFD in a category it did not belong in, that was all that was corrected. Gateman1997 04:16, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
Excellent news. -- JJay 05:04, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
JJay, I appreciate your sense of humor in the AfD. I got a huge laugh from your idea of having a bot add GWB to every list, indluding List of Elvis impersonators. Thanks. Logophile 16:34, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
I researched and followed what I believed to be the correct course of action. Did I jump the gun; did I step in where an admin should have trod? Apparently. Was I attempting to "disrupt" something? Absolutely not. Has the assumption of good faith gone out the window? You tell me. One Wikipedian's edit summary—"what are you doing?"—might just as well have included the untyped "the hell" for the tone it took. This was not a pleasant experience... Radio Kirk talk to me 23:22, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
I was just wondering if it was just me who thinks aladin is notable. Thanks for verifying the Times - although if you see my discussion page girlinwhite did that a while back. Not that they pay any notice at AfD. Now - what more than a three page article in the world's leading newspaper could establish a person's notability? Probably the spread aladin got in the Asian Age! Call me a cynic about this one. Autumnleaf 01:41, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
I think you have a somewhat non-standard view of what Afd means, with respect to merges. There's a bit of discussion on this at Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_deletion#Is_vote_for_merger_binding_on_destination_article.3F that you might want to read. Merges and redirects can be done by anyone at any time. Of course, if there's disagreement, you talk it over on the talk page, just like any other content dispute. Articles are subject to editing at any time. A prior Afd is not meant to prevent normal editing of the article after it's over. Friday (talk) 19:51, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
The situation is relatively simple. You did not perform a merge. I undid the redirect. The AfD outcome was Keep, not merge. The discussion above is not relevant. -- JJay 19:55, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
Please stop attacking AfD nominations and nominators, or I will start deleting your comments. User:Zoe| (talk) 03:37, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi. An attempt is being made to force the deletion of all Jewish lists from Wikipedia. Please see the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Centralized_discussion/Lists_by_religion-ethnicity_and_profession#Proposed_amendment:_remove_most_Jewish-related_lists and my compromise proposals at Wikipedia_talk:Centralized_discussion/Lists_by_religion-ethnicity_and_profession#Proposal_to_make_Jewish_lists_and_categories_historical_only. Thanks Arniep 10:04, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi, you have voted in the afd for various Home&Away character articles. I have had a go at combining all the articles in a single article (which I admit still needs a lot of work). You can find it at Current Home and Away characters. I suggest we keep this article are either delete or re-direct the others. What do you think? I've given a couple of reasons on the deletion page why I think one aticle is better than individual ones. Thanks, Evil Eye 13:07, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
Please do not hesitate to continue to tell me when I say something you think is out of line. There's no tone of voice in text, and I'm always happy to err on the side of not offending. If you'd like, I'll dig up some diffs where I've given it good to people who nominate with "NN D". A nomination that does not both clearly state its reasoning and provide some evidence that the person had done some research really does no one any good. Not that mine are always perfect, but I do try.
I'm now off to redact.
brenneman (t) (c) 01:13, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
You voted to cleanup, can you be more specific. Do you want to prune the list or remove it? Thanks. Voice of All T| @| ESP 19:15, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
I realize you don't approve of merging, but there is no reason for you to do a merge template removal as you did here. This is unhelpful to the discussion and disrepectful to other editors. I'm glad you explained yourself on the talk page, but where's the harm leaving the template up? It may draw in more people to comment on the merits of the merge. Friday (talk) 15:07, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
Do you even keep track of your edits? To refresh your memory, here is a link to your edit redirecting the page. [14]. You did not explain this redirect, on the talk page or anywhere else. What gave you the right to shutdown through this unilateral redirect an ongoing discussion on improving the article, in which you were not a participant? You also did not seek to explain the merge tag you later placed on the article until after it was removed. The fact that you do not like an article's contents does not give you license to suppress the article. I would strongly ask that you consider respecting other editors and normal procedure. -- JJay 19:30, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
I was confused by an edit you made with a summary of "rv non-working redirect", please see Talk:Mootstormfront#non-working_redirect. Thanks. Friday (talk) 22:39, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
I'm rather busy. If you have a problem I can help you with, please let me know. However, your continued disingenuous distortions are growing tiresome, such as above where you first accuse me of trolling, deny redirecting, then admit I was right. In short, I can not devote all of the very limited amount of time I have available for this project in responding to your incessant inquiries. I would strongly suggest that you find a more useful way of contributing to wikipedia. -- JJay 23:00, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
You wrote: "What is more troubling is your propensity to only question votes that do not adhere to your line of thinking. In my opinion, that sort of rigid tunnel vision is best avoided if we want to build a viable project that serves the interests of all users. -- JJay 05:36, 10 January 2006 (UTC)"
If you have some links that are worth seeing, why not? Can you also point me to the page that lists project goals (and I don't mean guidelines or policy). Otherwise, thanks for being frank. -- JJay 05:55, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
These are in reverse order, just the last eight (?) times I saw that I gave someone my opinion of AfD. I haven't (willfully) biased the sample, just took what came quasi-randomly. I won't annotate, I'd prefer you just looked for yourself. -
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This is good stuff. I don't have time to make observations right now, but do you have links that date prior to Jan 1? -- JJay 10:13, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Yea, if it doesn't make sense than revert. I thought that it was totally transparent. Trying to eliminate the most eggregious "stick something in a list even if only twelve people say it" entries using the bluntest of tools.
There are mostly two urls per edit summary, but only for deleted entries. It took me a few tries to figure out what would fit. For things that looked like they were protologisms but appeared to have some provenance, I pasted the link in html comments.
Which entry was footnoted?
brenneman (t) (c) 09:33, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
The list needs to be pruned. There's no doubt about that and I hope to participate if it survives AfD. The footnoted term you removed was woofter. Also I almost never use standard google for references, I source using books or publication databases. -- JJay 09:43, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Please take this in the spirit in which it's intended.
I was looking for a particular item in my history, and couldn't find it. Recalling that you had commented on my comment, I looked at your contribution history. It's pretty striking. In your last 500 contrubtions, over half have been to AfD. That's a lot.
I'm a pretty heavy participant in AfD. Out of my last 500 contributions, 55 have been to AfD, and that includes the ten that I've closed.
I understand that you've got some pretty strong feelings regarding what should and shouldn't be included. I also note that the contributions that you do make to mainspace are fantastic. [23] But your time and energy would be much better spent making more of those and less time arguing on AfD.
The simple fact is that well written, well referenced articles about notable topics are very _very_ rarely deleted. Using the Jewfro example, merges result in no loss of information. I love merges. It's just not efficient to spend your time "saving" things. You'll wear yourself out. brenneman (t) (c) 02:03, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi there, I couldn't dig up anything on whether or not you were already an administrator, so excuse me if you already are, but I would like to nominate you for an RfA. I have seen you around on AfD, as I spend much time there myself, and I believe your reasoning and commitment are commendable. I think you would make a fine Admin. If you have no objection, I will nominate you as soon as I receive word that you will accept it. Contact me either on my talk page or on yours, I will watch this page to await your reply. Thanks, and good luck! Werdna648 T/ C\ @ 03:26, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
I see you echoed my comments on the Stockton Massacre discussion page. I was rather peeved when my nice straightfoward clean-up (IMHO) of the article was reverted. Rather than getting into a revert war, however, I decided to leave the situation sit for a while. I left an admin a note on the matter, but he said that resolving these questions wasn't his strong point.
Well, that was almost a month ago and the article hasn't changed. So, what should we do about this?? I've been considering going for mediation. Your thoughts?? Madman 00:06, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
I don't think that a discussion of gun control belongs here, no. This sort of discussion belongs under "gun control and assault weapons" or any some other gun control article. This article is supposed to be about the Stockton Massacre but spends most of its time discussing the cons of gun control. It shows an anti-gun control POV by quoting the Violence Policy Center's strategy on the matter.
And, no, the perpetrator's name is not mentioned, nor the victims, although the victims' names seem to be difficult to come by (I've looked). Madman 23:14, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
Why not move this into sexual slur as its own subsection, with a different name? Voice of All T| @| ESP 04:18, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
It is very counterproductive to be focusing on that when we are trying to establish criteria for the list. Please try to contribute constructively to the discussions. -- JJay 04:25, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
An AfD you participated in is now at deletion review. - brenneman (t) (c) 23:49, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
Was the result of the vote to keep the article or was it to redirect it to Aladdin? Or am I missing something? Englishrose 14:00, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
A crackpot is again requesting deletion of the article. [25] Your vote would be appreciated. Prof. Afshar 18:01, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
I wanted to clarify my last comment on the talk page and ask your opinion without it being part of the debate over there. When I said that I wanted to put together a list of terms and then get the references, I meant on the talk page, not the actual article. It occured to me you might have thought I meant in the article itself (which would of course would be counterproductive to everything we've discussed).
What I meant was that I thought perhaps we could develop a short proto-list on the talk page, with perhaps 10-15 popular terms under each category. We could generate the terms, but no term would be put in the actual article without references. I thought this would give us a chance to arrive at major terms we all agreed on (and debate the ones we didn't), and then we'd find the references for each terms before putting it in the article.
I'm concerned that the page is currently just at a standstill, so hope that we can move forward.
What do you think of this idea? StrangeAttractor 14:57, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
JJay, hi, I wanted your opinion on something... I have been attempting to follow the dispute resolution process to ask DreamGuy to cease his personal attacks. However, every time I post something on his discussion page at User_talk:DreamGuy, he simply deletes it, and accuses me of harassment. He's also deleting comments by User:Englishrose, and those of a third party. I spoke to an admin about it, and they advised me that for now, I should try to get other opinions. Could you please take a look at the page's history, and let me know your thoughts on the situation? Thanks. Elonka 00:37, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi,
Thank you for rescuing the article; your efforts are greatly appreciated. Cheers! Folajimi 01:19, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your vote on my RfA, and for taking your time to provide diffs for your issues. I am sorry that you feel so strongly about my edit to the Godcasting article, but what I deleted was crap - see the difference between the edit prior to mine (where I stub-tagged the article), and just ten or so edits earlier [26]. I didn't mean any offence, and am surprised that it bothered you.
I don't necessarily support the 'War on Blogs' fully (and I don't like the name) - but I do feel that there needs to be a project aimed at applying quality control to the blog-related articles on Wikipedia. This does not necessarily mean deleting articles - many just require cleaning up, and I do feel that information on blogs that does not deserve an article of its own could be merged into the article on the blogger. That is my opinion, though, and I appreciate many feel differently - and I would always respect that if I were to be named as an administrator.
The name 'War on Blogs' is unfortunate. If it was called Wikiproject:Blogs or something similar, then perhaps not only would it be less controversial, but editors from the other side of the fence would be more involved, providing some necessary balance. I would note that I or any of the other people keeping an eye on the 'war' have not seen the people involved do anything against policy.
When I said Timecop was my hero, I thought it was just a bit of fun, and I certainly wasn't aware he was the leader of the GNAA. I actually had to look up what GNAA meant. I don't expect you to change your vote, so I won't ask. But I did want to explain myself a little better, and I hope that I've done so. I don't like bad feeling going around. If you have any questions or issues that you would like me to respond to, please post them on my talk page. No hard feelings. All the best, Proto t c 14:31, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
I object to the derogatory approach that is displayed in AfD discussions and edit summaries. Regarding the GNAA, I have commented on Proto's user page. If as recently as 2.5 weeks ago he was not aware of this group, and was capable of signing a petition without any investigation, he is not ready to be an admin. -- JJay 15:32, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Hello JJay. I'm sorry that our first meeting would be head-on like that. You are welcome to check and pick my other edits apart, in search for anything done in bad faith. If you don't find anything, then I hope that you at least consider that my input at "aladin" isn't in bad faith either. No, I'm well aware that my knowledge of the business isn't fit to be posted in the encyclopedia, if it isn't verified in print. But the talk pages isn't the encyclopedia. Thanks to said knowledge, I'm able to find sources that are hard to find elsewhere, as well as directing focus to places where verification can be found, or where it should be found if it exists. To disregard the expertise and possible printed verification of known historians in the field, and noted publishers of trade journals, on the merits that they've met me, doesn't strike me as being fair. Had for example David Berglas said that aladin was a good performer who keeps to himself - that statement would not be suited for inclusion, but it would have been a good hint that it was worth the effort to find more sources. And the input of his son Marvin Berglas (head of the toy company "Marvin's Magic" ), who makes a lot of effort on finding and hiring young and deserving magicians in England - his opinion might also reveal whether it's possible to find proper verification or not.
I don't take questions like this lightly. Yesterday I searched through 9 volumes of Genii magazine (international trade magazine, 12 issues/volume) but not a single mention of aladin. I also went through Opus magazine (known british trade magazine) from 1994-1995, which is equally void of aladin's name. So far I've just flicked through the pages of Magic magazine, but I'm at this point quite certain that there will be no mention of his name there either. I was the editor of Tricks magazine in scandinavia until 1994-95, and continued with the magazine "Dr. Faustus Journal" in 1995, and got reports from all over the world. I've checked my old files, but nothing there either. There is the claim that aladin introduced Lennart Green to Ricky Jay, which is untrue. But the only places in England where both Green and Ricky Jay can have met is the McMillan convention in early 90's or possibly the Blackpool convention. I can check which year and ask Martin McMillan to check the list of registrated participants from those years, to see if it's likely that aladin has been even close to them - but as always, it's hard to prove a negative. Would the absense of aladins name from the list of participants at a convention be considered valid verification of a negative?
I'm also sorry that you believe it insulting to suffer from mythomania, but that should be considered an alert rather than an attack. I'm unfortunately familiar with it, as I lived two years with a girl who suffered from the combination Borderline personality disorder and mythomania, before I understood that something was wrong, and since then I've studied DSM-IV so hard I can quote it in my sleep. And I don't put moral values on the affliction, as I've seen the pain it causes. There are patterns that are easy to recognize for anyone with either education or personal knowledge. That is also not fit for an encyclopedia, but it should be an alert to people gathering verification that all facts has to be checked and re-checked, even down to the date of birth. That I possess a large knowledge of the field, have friends who are noted authorites and historians, and that I've got personal experience that enables me to recognize an illness shouldn't really be held against me, unless it seems likely that I use my knowledge to cause harm (check my previous edits). To avoid further misunderstandings, I will refrain from posting, researching or even visit that topic again, as I find it quite troublesome to be suspected of bad will. You are welcome to delete anything I've written there (consider that an official permission). And finally, I'm sorry that our first meeting had to be in this shape -- TStone 10:27, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
My apologies for calling you a vandal. Maybe you could apologize to the people you called vandals for removing spam from California State Polytechnic University, Pomona.-- Curtis Clark 15:24, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks JJay. Out of curiosity, where did you get 1903 and trojans? -- Dystopos 02:39, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
I see you undid the move -- while I was posting an explanation of the situation, i might add. I also see that you did NOT move the archived talk pages, so tht those links are now broken. If you are going to undo page moves, please undo them throughly. I would like to ask you please NOT to do any more page moves on this topic, except to finish the one you did by moving the archived pages, until there is agreement. i am making the same request of Elonka and others involved. Please read my commetns on the talk page. Thank you. DES (talk) 17:43, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
JJay, I give you my word, I did not "immediately move the page in response" to your post. They happened around the same time. You've done enough editing on the Wikipedia to know how time can pass... You edit a page, enter in information, preview it, save, and then find out that something else changed while you were in the edit screen. ;) I promise you, it was an accident. I'd already seen your earlier comments [29] where it appeared that you didn't care what the page title was, and I was unaware that you had changed your mind. Please accept my apology and assume good faith? I'm willing to gather a new consensus, to keep everyone happy. Elonka 18:22, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
In this section of the discussion on Aaron's RfA you say "The comments from freakofnurture, Johnleemk and Lar are mischaracterization and deeply insulting". I'm not sure what comment of mine you were referring to, but it was not my intent to insult you or anyone else. If you can let me know which comment you meant, and how it was a mischaracterisation I will redact it immediately. In any case let me assure you no insult was intended, and further, I sincerely apologise for any insult you perceived. ++ Lar: t/ c 17:01, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
I've left a message on the talk page about a title--you may be interested. Thanks. Chick Bowen 17:57, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Please do not keep undoing other people's edits without discussing them first. This is considered impolite and unproductive. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert an article to a previous version more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you. Ardenn 21:49, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
You are in danger of violating the three-revert rule. Please cease further reverts or you may be blocked from further editing. Ardenn 22:03, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Thank you Hello JJay, and thank you for your support in my request for adminship! It passed with a final count of 63/4/3. I am honoured by the community support and pledge to serve the project as best as I can. CanadianCaesar The Republic Restored 17:05, 12 February 2006 (UTC) |
Hi I noticed we share a similiar POV on the Whidden Hall article. It seems that Friday and Jonel would do anything to de-value the page and lets not forget Ardenn. I just noticed Jonel has once again re-directed the page back to the McMaster page before it was even discussed. Is there anything to stop this kind of behaviour? Btw, are you an admin? or shall we bring an admin to solve this simple issue which somehow escalated into something so fustrating and complicated. 24.57.131.18 04:14, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the help with the Golden State League article. I never thought putting it up for AfD would get it cleaned up so quickly, or at all. When I first saw it, it was in such a bad state that I didn't think it could be rescued. And then it came back to life! Just one quick question: where did you get that book reference? Did you just happen to have that book lying around?? Carcharoth 07:21, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
It would be better for everyone involved if you'd use the talk page just to discuss changes to the article, and not as a place for complaining about other editors. I think everyone involved is trying to improve the encyclopedia, we just don't always agree on what's an improvement. A little bit of "assume good faith" goes a long way. Friday (talk) 15:05, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
PROD was removed once by someone who later changed their mind, and no longer objects, and was removed a second time by a new user in their first edit. I think it's safe to say those are not "obvious objections". Particularly since in neither case did anyone actually state a reason for taking the tag off, without which the process can't work.
Hi there. I recently came across this article, Project_Quicksilver, and noted some concerns on the talk page. I was wondering what the best way is to proceed from here? Is there a non-encyclopedic POV tag that can be slapped on an article? Is there a convention that it is OK to talk at length from the POV of a fictional world? Sorry to ask you these questions. Is there somewhere that summarises the different ways to critique an article, and how to draw attention to them (if you are uncertain how to correct a possible problem yourself)? Carcharoth 11:14, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Hi Jjay. You contributed to the (withdrawn) AfD on Olivia Cenizal - thought you may (or may not) appreciate the heads up.
I've put a list of all the stubs I originally tried to batch nominate here, and I'll go through them systematically.
As you are clearly someone who feels very strongly about articles being deleted, particularly if they are non-Western, I thought I would let you know that I don't plan to AfD any of these now, at first. I will tag them for proposed deletion, giving any contributors five days to fix the articles up to assert notability and find suitable verification. I have started to go through them myself. Any I can find an IMDB page for, or any other reasonable sources, I am instead tagging for cleanup. I am sorry if my original method to try and clear these stubs up did not sit well with you. All the best, Proto|| type 14:19, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Why are you accusing me of stalking you on various talk pages? What can we do to resolve this conflict? I've tried to "bury the hatchet" as they say, but it didn't seem to work. I'm sorry for whatever offense I have caused you. Is it possible to start over? Also, fyi, I was going to email you instead as your talk page instructions indicate, but it says you can't be emailed. Friday (talk) 23:12, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
[41]: you changed from 1889 to 1880. I'm guessing you are right, but could you please provide a citation? - Jmabel | Talk 03:31, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Nice one JJ, always fun to lock horns. Seriously, who do you expect to establish the notability of an article - editors who vote to delete and have no knowledge of the subject matter, or editors who vote to keep and claim the subject is frequently in the news? Instead of putting the links on the AfD page, why not actually edit the article and put them there? I'm an editor first and a deletionist second, you sometimes seem to be an inclusionist first and an editor second. I'm not saying that everyone who votes to keep an article is obliged to improve it but in some cases - and I believe this is one - you just have to put your money where your mouth is and worry about the article rather than the AfD banter. I don't want to see this deleted if it is notable, but if it is notable I want the article to reflect that. Much love as always Deizio 22:51, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Well, having now compared our edits for one day (i.e. March 6), it looks like you weren't doing any serious editing until you suddenly got motivated with the Hmong stuff. Prior to that you were mostly participating in AfD. I had already created one article on a High school and added content or references to various other articles. Therefore, rather than complaining about it, you should thank me for allowing you to state truthfully that you are an "editor first and a deletionist second". Also, if you intend to continue, I'd be happy to send you any of the articles from the link I provided.
Otherwise, the driving force for me in AfD is participation. I believe the only way that article quality, and by extension wikipedia, can improve is through massive participation. Every deletion drives editors away who care/cared about the material being deleted. If something is verifiable it is good enough for me. Notability is meaningless. What is really "notable" to me would interest very few people. What is notable for you is probably not notable to me. The quality of the article doesn't matter to me either. Since I view this as a very long-term process that should continue well beyond my lifespan, the actual state of an article at a given moment in time is completely unimportant. Now I don't object to people who have a different point of view on this. What I do object to are derogatory comments such as those you made initially. Lastly, regarding your point about "editors who vote to delete and have no knowledge of the subject matter"- I don't believe anyone should participate on AfD if they have no knowledge of the subject matter. Keep, Delete, merge: expressing an opinion without doing your homework is a very dangerous game.-- JJay 01:45, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Man, I can't believe that I'm having edit conflicts on this page despite the warning. Despite that, that point that you and others like to quote from WP:V just makes me laugh because it's taken so wildly out of context. I also don't believe games need rules, and "notability" is not the rule here for me. Finally, regarding your new comment, you should know I always do research before voting on AfD. I always google the topic. I always check our other coverage. I always check the topic on Newsbank and other databases. What I choose to do after that is up to me. -- JJay 01:53, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Ok fine. Nice sarcasm at the end but that's cool. I have to admit that I don't remember talking to you about a school article, but it must be my advanced years. You are right that a one day comparison is not fair. Any more comparison though would have bored me to tears. -- JJay 02:13, 7 March 2006 (UTC) PS. Not sure if I mentioned it above, but I liked what you did with the two AfD articles. I would change my votes to merge except that could create problems down the road if someone wants to expand one of the articles to the point where it needs to be demerged. -- JJay 02:15, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Hello! Thank you for taking the time to vote for me in my recent request for adminship It ended successfully with a final score of (40/10/5). I value all of the contributions made during the process and I will take a special note of the constructive criticism regarding interacting with users in the user talk space. If you have questions or requests, please leave a message. (aeropagitica) 17:26, 7 March 2006 (UTC) |
Hi, JJay. Could I ask that if you state an article is verifiable, please could you provide a reference (it doesn't need to be an online reference) to back this up? It would make assessing the validity of an article on AfD a lot easier. Proto|| type 11:57, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Please see my response to your unsubstantiated personal attacks against me in this deletion debate. I have repeatedly argued that the general concept of fuck truck is notable while a specific college shuttle is not. At the worst, my feelings that this is true have become stronger and, admittedly, I have become less willing compromise and name the article after this one shuttle. I have made a fairly large number of good faith edits. My intention is not to make a joke (see the explanation of what I am up to on my user page). I would appreciate an apology for your efforts to defame me and my good faith actions. Interestingstuffadder 00:23, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi JJay. I've just been reviewing my involvement in articles for deletion and I stopped at this one. I don't believe consensus was reached and may have changed my vote given more discussion. I'f you'd like to request debate is reopened or WP:DRV I would support that. Not that it will change anything in the long run, but it might. Peace. ॐ Metta Bubble puff 10:09, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
Dear JJay,
You're being harsh. My intention was to draw attention to the important message - it's a certain no-consensus, and I wanted to make sure the admin didn't gloss over it. I won't go and revert it - but regardless, you've been mean. It's not nice to be mean. -
the.crazy.russian
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JJay,
We're drafting the document, and will eventually post it for people to comment on. Because you were so vocal in the Riverbend Mall debate, I am inviting you to join in our deliberations. Feel free to tweak the text and/or add comments.
Regards,
the.crazy.russian
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I tried proposing it several times. However, many people (or some) object the idea of having it deleted after 5 days by letting admistration board notifying it.
I created that page because I assumed there could be more than two different definitions. However, I did not appreciate that kind because that was all I researched.
Why should not it be deleted? Should I or someone put it under debate of making it deleted? Why or why not? — 69.27.173.21 20:28, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
JJay - I'd suggest that your commments here: "designed to intimidate," "distorted summaries," "Yeah, whatever," were outside the bounds of civility. - brenneman {L} 03:06, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
Email me if you really want to talk about that, or I'll email you. I will say that while your many posts here on the topic have convinced me of your good faith (which was rather difficult to assume at first), your justification is a bit harder to swallow. -- JJay 12:07, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
Had you taken the time to review Transnational Association of Christian Colleges and Schools you would have noticed that 1) I created the page 2) a suspect sock puppet of a banned user added links to pages that did not have articles. I removed those links and thus the fork that is up for AfD was created. I removed the links added a speedy tag and a AfD tag. Don't assume bad faith without reviewing the full situation. Instead you listened to possible two meat puppets of the suspected sock that has a off wikipedia webpage that aims to put Christianity at wikipedia. You can read the full discloser at Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Jason_Gastrich. Arbusto 01:11, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
JJay, thank you for your constructive opposition in
my recent RfA. Although it did not succeed as no consensus was declared (final: 65/29/7), I know that there is always an opportunity to request adminship again. In the meantime, I will do my best to address your concerns in the hope that when the opportunity for adminship arises once again, you will reconsider your position. If at any time I make any mistakes or if you would like to comment on my contributions to Wikipedia, you are more than
welcome to do so. Regardless of your religious, cultural, and personal beliefs, I pray that whatever and whoever motivates you in life continues to guide you on the most righteous path.
--- joturner 05:29, 1 April 2006 (UTC) |
Why are you following every single page I edit and add? You have added nothing to the articles. Arbusto 00:59, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
Regarding your comment, it is standard practice to only link once in an article as per Wikipedia:Only make links that are relevant to the context. There is thus no need to list terms under "see also" that have already been linked in the article body. As to the ABBC page, I reviewed their website and they do not refer to themselves as "fundamentalist". They refer to themselves as Baptist. Since no other source was provided for the article, I replaced "fundamentalist" with "Baptist". I would remind you that it is not for us to make judgements, bur rather to report data based on WP:RS. If you have a source that calls ABBC "fundamentalist" then please correct my "mistake". Otherwise, I would ask that you adjust your tone here and try to refrain from POV when editing. Cheers. -- JJay 01:34, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
Regarding your comment on the Jackson vote [51], I have no idea how you can construe what I've said as a "personal attack." If you consider your own experience of hearing Jackson's story as being "the human face of the Katrina tragedy for millions," okay, more power to you. Disagreeing and pointing out that your statement is strongly point-of-view rather than an actual statement of fact is not an attack.
"I would ask that you adjust your tone here and try to refrain from POV when editing." Your own words, right above this section. Please don't take the AfD so personally. Tijuana Brass 04:36, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
I took a look at the diff you cited in your opposing comment on RGTraynor's now withdrawn RFA. Although I neither supported nor opposed him, I think your comment was a little strong. If you read not only the article being AfD'd but also who the author was (and read the author's article on his own professional wrestling career), you would see that calling that article "vanity" was not much of a stretch. -- DS1953 talk 19:43, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
You re-inserted "researcher" - I would say that is problematic. A career total of under 30 published papers is well below the level normally expected of an active academic researcher in these fields. A hundred or more would be much closer to the mark. Here's the list for a friend of mine (with no Wikipedia article that I know of): [54] - this guy is around 40 and still publishing actively. I'm not going to remove the word, but I don't tink it is necessarily accurate or neutral in context. Just zis Guy you know? 22:45, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
This is the only time I will ask you before seeking admin help to remove what I have written on your talk page, as you have changed my original wording. You may also restore them to their original form. You may not represent what I, or any other editor, has said by editing things into talk pages. Tijuana Brass 02:56, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Do you know or are you/ever have been in contact with Jason Gastrich, wiki4christ, or any connection no matter how loose? Thanks. Arbusto 03:47, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
Is your name Javert or Spitzer, please clarify, yes or no? We've seen these types of thought police mindgames before. We also refuse to be indoctrinated into whatever DoublePlusUnGood you are pushing. Wikipedia is not the the right place for that. Accusations have their forums. Articles have their talk pages. If you feel the need, use them. Otherwise, the committee has enormous patience in the face of nonsensical queries. Big brother is watching. -- JJay 19:39, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
-- JJay 01:42, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar | ||
JJay, this barnstar is for going above and beyond the call of duty in the Dominionist political parties debate. GUÐSÞEGN – U T E X – 05:07, 18 April 2006 (UTC) |
[56] + [57] + [58] = irony. That was cute of you. There's no prohibition on hipocrisy at Wikipedia. But there are rules on personal attacks and causing disruption, and a number of your comments both here and at WP:AN/I cross those lines. You need to stop trolling others and find a more constructive way to contribute to the project. FeloniousMonk 06:00, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
This was a borderline close and currently doesn't have the numbers to be re-opened, but since I don't believe in voting anyway I'm dropping you a line. You were a bit brief in your rational at the AfD and regardless of where you do it (at DrV or AfD if I re-open it) it would be more convincing if you expounded. - brenneman {L} 05:03, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Hey JJay,
Did my e-mail ever get through?
See ya,
Primetime 05:08, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
I have opened a Request for Comment on User:Woggly due to harassment which is clearly evidenced by her in a harassment campaign that she has organized on her talk page User:Woggly 4 On this page one can witness how accusations of using sockpuppets were never confirmed before she accused me of these actions and others. JJay - can you please provide advice on this matter through e-mail. Thanks, IsraelBeach 01:20, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for pointing that out. I knew that I had done that occasionally but I didn't realize until you pointed it out how often I've reverted to unsourced material like that. I definitely need to work on that. Again, thanks. JoshuaZ 16:49, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
I just thought I'd link The Game (game) here on the off chance :-D Just zis Guy you know? 20:09, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Hey, I just wanted to thank you for what you said under the strong throw out altogether section. You got a chuckle out of me. I am pretty new at Wikipedia but am being watched like a hawk. I need all the help I can get at this point. I've been harassed, lied to, insulted, lawyerized in debate and blocked four times since I joined on 3/22/06. All I want to do is bring neutrality back into Wiki articles. At the bottom of my page is a warning left by SlimVirgin. Can you help me please? Maggie thewolfstar 05:36, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi, My RfA passed. I'd like to again thank you for your constructive criticism in my RfA and assure you that I will work on the issues you brought up. JoshuaZ 14:28, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
Hey JJay –
You opposed my last RfA in March on rationale I believe may have been related to my user page. In the time since then, I have changed my page to be more universalist (which still conforms with my personal beliefs) and removed the majority of information regarding my conversion to Islam in favor of a section on my philosophy (as well as yours if you desire). Now, I'm looking for your feedback on what you think of the redesign of the page and whether it is sufficient in quelling the March controversy over the page as well as solving the issue about possible inability to maintain a neutral point of view, especially in religion-related articles. For what it's worth, the reason I kept a condensed version of the timeline was because there were, and still are, many people who find it interesting instead of a form of proselytization. Many people have also given me positive feedback on my talk page regarding the look of the page. I personally believe that it is okay to insert individuality onto user pages, especially if it still promotes a sense of community. That is what I was going for with this current version of my user page.
Please make comments regarding the user page on my editor review page. Thanks in advance. joturn e r 15:06, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
JJay, give me a shout if anything I do with the mop concerns you. We may not see eye to eye on everything but I respect you and your opinion. Nice one, Deizio talk 23:41, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
JJay, I feel , like some others who voted for keeping this article on WP , that the admins were biased. So since there is a wkikipedia fork which allows sympathetic point of view could be the place to keep this article. I don't feel this article should die and it deserves to be here at WP more than many articles we have here. But probably for some time , the best option we have for keeping this article alive is by taking it to another encyplaediac project. I hope you reply back to me about it because we both feel trhe same way about this article.
Unitedroad 09:48, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
You might want to bring some of your references to Men's fashion freedom. I think the subject can be encyclopaedically covered there - while there is no real evidence of independent usage outside this small movement, it is undoubtedly a part of that movement, as evidence the small number of highly passionate advocates seen defending the term. Just zis Guy you know? 09:46, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
I was somewhat concerned with what's going on, so I did something utterly unprecedented: I actually just went and asked the nominator. :-)
It turns out that the string of nominations is simply a category sweep, where you check all the articles in a catagory, and nominate the more wonky ones on AFD.
Some other time someone might do a sweep of all software related articles, or of sailing articles or school articles.
PZFUN typically hangs out writing featured articles, and he thought he'd make himself useful as an Admin for a bit as well. Little did he know ...
Note that many of the nominated articles *do* need a cleanup, even if they're kept. Else sooner or later someone else will come along and nominate them again, as per wikipedia content policy.
Would you care to amend your comments on Articles for Deletion, now that you know this?
Kim Bruning 00:39, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Israeli_apartheid_%28phrase%29
You seem to be well informed on the subject, and would be very welcome in the discussion on Wikipedia talk:Notability (pornographic actors). You are quite right that it is not a guideline or policy yet, but in theory, neither is Wikipedia:Notability, yet that is the main reason for deletion on AFD. With enough work, WP:PORN BIO will be a good guideline, rather than a bad one. AnonEMouse (squeak) 16:43, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
You said you thought the article about legal precedent and professional misconduct useful. The author of the article has taken it to mediation - not hte article, just this paragraph, because why? The author was a student of this surgeon, and wants to burnish his reputation. He does not want a biography. Instead, he wants a hagiography. PLease come discuss at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2006-06-08_G._Patrick_Maxwell
This is most telling. The author wants nothing that hints of a true biography of this man. MollyBloom 20:58, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
LOL! If needed, checkuser will demonstrate I'm no one's sockpuppet, sockpuppeteer or proxy. Disruption has its boundaries, no matter the user. Radio Kirk talk to me 03:56, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
For the moment I'll completely ignore the numerous complaints about you on your talk page, because they simply aren't relavent to what goes on between the two of us, even if the theme may be the same. Basically, I want you to chill out and let me do my thing until it impinges on your freedoms or rights. I've noticed that you get pretty excited over AfD's, often over AfD's for articles of extremely questionable worth. Sometimes, you say how "excellently written" they are, necessitating me to check the writing of the article, only to find that the writing is very poor. Maybe you have low standards. Maybe you write like those film critics who praise every b-movie they see to the skies! I don't know, but I'd like to know why you do things like mockingly pointing out that I used the word "worthless.?" Of course I did, and I put it in my nom. "Worthless" to me doesn't mean nearly the same as it does to you, apparently, and you don't seem to have any respect for the way I use words, which, by the way, is perfectly grammatical and in line with Wikipedia's PC polices. So, I get pissed off when you pick on my language. Most people probably do. I suggest you stop it as far as I'm concerned. If you want to take part in AfD's that I nominate, go ahead, it's your right, but please, hold back your impulse to bark orders or tell others how things ought to be done. You've already made my experience here less enjoyable, and I'd really rather never hear from you again. If you snark at me in a debate again, I really should take some action. It would be the honorable thing to do. I follow the Golden Rule, and I hope you do to. Please take what I've said seriously, because I'd hate for things to escalate. Also, I'd really appreciate it if you'd quit following my contributions around. I don't want to have to get another login name just to evade you. Erik the Rude 23:53, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
Editors such as Maxwell Perkins are considered writers, not publishers. ( Category:Print editors is a great-grandchild of Category:Writers.) If he were a publisher he would have owned Charles Scribner's Sons, which as far as I can tell from the stub, he did not. Editors should soon have a stub type of their very own, Both {{ editor-stub}} and {{ US-editor-stub}} have been proposed and barring the unexpected, will be created sometime after the 7-day waiting period finishes. Until then, editors belong among the writers. Caerwine Caerwhine 03:14, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
I know what POV is, but what the heck's a "POV fork"? And more importantly, is it any good for eating peas more than 1 at a time? -- Dweller 23:12, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Please assume good faith when dealing with other editors. See Wikipedia:Assume good faith for the guidelines on this. — Mike • 11:31, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Hehe... went looking all the way to January, I see? Cute... - CrazyRussian talk/ email 19:39, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
When you added back in these links, you may have missed the existing http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk:Nude_beach&diff=61818990&oldid=45452511 thread I made on the talk page to discuss it. I also note that you http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Nude_beach&limit=500&action=history only contribution to this article has been to add in those links. Can I ask that you take part discussion on the talk page, please? - Aaron Brenneman 12:15, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Thank you, JJ, for giving of your time to take part in my RfA. While I am happy that wikipedia as a whole reached a consensus to allow me to perform administrative tasks, I will keep in mind everything I have learned through the process, of which you were a part. Please feel free to provide constructive criticism. Although, I must say that for someone who disapproves of essays, you did see fit to improve WP:WING 8-) -- Avi 03:45, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Greetings, I see that you have added to the list Writers of German-language philosophy in the recent past. I have called for a renaming of the related category (German philosophers), and want to invite you to join discussion. The more rational voices, the better. (My suggestion is to rename to "German-language philosophers," so that the category becomes one of language rather than ethnicity.) Thanks in advance for any thoughts you might have. Universitytruth 13:56, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Ok, so neither of my links work. Still a newbie, I'm afraid. Anyway, I hope you'll know what I'm talking about! Universitytruth 14:00, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
To keep it short, non-admins are not permitted to remove speedy delete notices. If you disagree with my actions, throw a {{ hangon}} template on the page and put your reasoning in the talk page — the admin reviewing my speedy-delete notice catches it that way, especially when alerted by the {{ hangon}} template. But flat-out removing speedy-delete notices is actually considered vandalism. -- User:WCityMike 02:43, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Though Afshar's work is still the subject of ongoing interpretation and discussion, a significant portion of the scientific community is of the opinion that Afshar's experiment does not refute complementarity.
Some general criticisms are:
As Michael claims, those statments are supposedly "popular views" that preexisted my experiment, and as such must be present in peer-reviewed publication predating my work. All I have asked him to do is to provide such valid ref.s but he has persistently avoided doing so and instead engaged in personal attacks. He seems to have a lot of time on his hands to be on Wikipeida constatntly, but I don't. This is turning to oneupmanship, and I don't have time for such antcis. Maybe he would heed your request. Thanks!-- Prof. Afshar 13:51, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. I don't know what he imagines he's playing at removing these common words, but it's nice to see someone else doing excellent work on this. -- Tony Sidaway
I'd direct (both of) your attention to the big bold letters in one of our core policies:
1. Articles should contain only material that has been published by reputable sources.
2. Editors adding new material to an article should cite a reputable source, or it may be removed by any editor.
3. The obligation to provide a reputable source lies with the editors wishing to include the material, not on those seeking to remove it.
If you think that this should be changed as "pedantry," take it up on Wikipedia_talk:Verifiability. What I utterly fail to understand is why anyone would, to use the "Freebord" example cited, add a dozen odd references to the AfD while adding nothing to the article, or to use the List of sexual slurs example argue over (and re-add) terms rather than finding and adding sources. If these terms are so common, so widely used, surely the path of least resistance would be to follow the policy as written? User:Aaron Brenneman 06:13, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Since you seem to be more interested in character assassination than the truth, I'll point out the following:
On the other hand, you have removed numerous sourced entries from the list. You have challenged the validity of the sourcing. You have never added any references to the list. Your approach has been continuously obstructionist. You are thus in no position to lecture anyone about sources, nor to imply - in any way, shape or form - that I am opposed to sourcing. The next time you want to make bogus accusations of that sort, do it in a public forum and back it up with diffs.
Regarding your AfD diffs and the nonsense about my "intense argumentative nature":
I'm not sure what point you are trying to make with your personal edit diffs. That you know how to write 3-line stubs??? Is that supposed to impress me?? When you start producing this sort of response- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/West 4th Street (Greenwich Village) and producing this sort of diff [81], I will be the first to applaud. In the meantime stop wasting my time. -- JJay 15:42, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Greetings; if you would visit the call for discussion at this page, I'd be grateful for your input. Thanks! Talk:List_of_German-language_philosophers Best, Universitytruth 13:13, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
So why not share? - BalthCat 19:29, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Hey JJay,
I'm borrowing your warning template to put on my talk page if you don't mind. Thanks. YCCHAN 03:50, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
You haven't been your old nasty flame-baiting self for the past few days. I'm glad to see that. I congratulate you for the improvement, and I hope it continues so that an RfC on your behavior will not be necessary. I'd be happy to open one. That template on the top of this talk page is funny when I consider how many people you have wikistalked yourself. Obvious hypocrisy is such an ugly character defect. Maybe you've been making use of the rolling papers recently? Whatever it is, keep it up. Erik the Rude 12:47, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
And I'd strongly encourage you not to provoke me or continue to be uncivil, or things could really get much worse for you. I will use the tools available to me to make your Wikipedia life as miserable as possible to change your behavior for the better. You reap what you sow. You are treated as you treat others. Bullying should not be tolerated. My account isn't a sock puppet account. It's a new account I created to make a fresh start. I admit I made some newbie mistakes in the past, but I'm older and wiser now. I do productive work and try to stay away from AfD unless there's no choice. You think that email I sent you was threatening? It was nothing. If you want to be a baby about it, call the police. Since you probably don't live in the State of West Virginia, they would tell you that there is simply nothing that they can do. If you lived in W.Va. you might have a case for a restraining order or a civil action. Trust me, I know the all the ins and outs of what legally constitutes a threat, and what I said doesn't qualify in any American jurisdiction. Apparently, you need a little legal education. I've indicated no intention to harm you physically, I have no idea where you live, and I'm not going to track you down and come find you. Let me make myself perfectly clear. YOUR BEHAVIOR IS UNACCEPTABLE. I will keep telling you that until I can get you to accept it. I won't personally attack you on WP, and I'll be as civil as I can. I don't even know you personally, but if I did, I suspect I could help you out. I'll even be polite. I look forward to your progress from agitator to good contributor. I look forward to you spending less than half your time in AfD. If you have problems with anger, try my suggestion and talk to a therapist. Hell, you can even talk to me. I'll listen. I can advise you in making more appropriate responses. Remember, I'm here for you, JJay. Nemo me impune lacessit. Erik the Rude 19:00, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
This is typical of your behavior, digging up dirt on your opponents rather than trying any kind of change. You'll do anything than address the topic at hand, the fact that you have maladaptive behavior that needs to change and that lots of users have serious problems with you on a constant basis. You wasted your time typing in all those diffs, everyone has seen them. I did my time for the incivility. Also, I'm rather proud of some of those as flames. They remind me of my glory days in USENET. I was on pills and booze at the time -- Lortab and strong beer, a bad combination. What exactly is your excuse for what you do? Do you drink and edit too? Do we need a support group for our kind? Do tell! Like I said, JJay, you have problems. We're going to get them sorted out so that you don't piss people off. If you don't like that, that's too bad, because I have a cause of action here, and I resent being consistently ignored by you. You dig up stuff that doesn't even matter and you say things that have no meaning. Why won't you be honest and real? Erik the Rude 00:37, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi, you recently voted to keeep the article Macarthur Square. Could you please suggest something that could be added to the article to make it notable compared to all the other articles for shopping malls on Wikipedia? I ask this because I cannot see what makes one shopping centre notable compared to the one in the next suburb. Not every house has an article, why should every shopping centre? Thanks, I hope to implement some of your suggestions. I am happy to conduct a reasonable amount of web-based investigation to implement some of your thoughts. BTW - please if you want me to email you instead, be more upfront about how to do it. -- Ga rr ie 06:00, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Your comments here that I'm "biased," "pretending" in my explenations, and discussion with me are "an exercise in futility" are at the very least incivil. I also note that at the DRv you've stated twice that I used the word "sockpuppet." This is simply inaccurate. User:Aaron Brenneman 12:16, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
I've made a proposal here, and am seeking feedback. Best,-- Anthony Krupp 14:00, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
I have a soft place in my heart for school articles, and I have tried to temper my inclusionist tendencies on the issue with concise explanations of why I think school articles should be retained. I have long been baffled by the opinion that a notable graduate confers notability on a school, as if the school had anything to do with it in almost all cases and as if the school has an obligation to churn out individuals who will meet Wikipedia's standards of notability. While I thought I had honed my cynicism on the issue in some of my Keep votes, I must bow down and prostrate myself before your majestic take on the subject in the abovementioned AfD. Down with School Deletionism! After all, even Deletionists went to school somewhere (and if they didn't, that explains a great deal). Bravo! Alansohn 03:35, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert a single page more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you. ST47 Talk 21:29, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
Shadowing my AfD participation is not very nice. [86], [87]., [88], [89]. Taking it to the next level by entering an edit war on an article you have never edited based on my participation is out of line [90] and serves just to inflame the situation. Stalking is not very becoming. Please tone down the insults as well. [91]. -- JJay 23:12, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
You reasoning is inconsistent in an effort to vote keep in two of my afds.
Regarding Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of ...for Dummies books (2 nomination), (this is a copy and pasted list) you wrote keep [99], but in an effort to keep an unnotable diploma mill you said [100]"However, copying diploma mill names from government websites in order to construct a pseudo-official diploma mill list at wikipedia... It violates both the meaning and spirit of the list guidelines."
Stop using the afd to STALK and make a POINT. Arbusto 02:14, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
I've reviewed your contribution history, both in the articles noted above and elsewhere. I'm of the opinion that your use of the revert is tantamount to disruption, as well as your style of contribution to deletion discussions being problematic. This can be handled lots of ways, in my order of preferance:
Dispute resolution (like mediation) probably isn't appropiate, since I don't actually have a dispute with you. However, I do intend to pursue this.
User talk:Aaron Brenneman 02:18, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
I have opened an Arcom case: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration. Arbusto 17:38, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
Some of the articles nominated by the sock were in fact deleted. You may want to consider DRVing them. Incidentally, process-wise this will presumably also overturn those which ended as keeps and thus they will not count for consensus in that regard. JoshuaZ 22:30, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
JJay, recognizing that you may not read this (per your comment at the top of the page), I'd still like to ask: would you mind weighing in on the deletion review for XPLANE at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2006 November 24? I believe your voice is important to this review and your comments/opinions are much appreciated. Dgray xplane 15:47, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I was in the process of editing this article when you deleted it. There are lots of reasons why this is not a valid prod, including the previous AFD for its 2000 counterpart and the stated reason of OR, which is belied by scholarly research on the topic. My edit recreated the article( unfortunately without the history). -- JJay 14:50, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
I agree with you that signatures that take a large amount of space in the wiki markup language or the final rendering are disruptive. This encyclopedia is less about it's generous contributors than it is about it's final goal of a free encyclopedia for all the world. HighInBC (Need help? Ask me) 02:23, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
You have been temporarily blocked for violating WP:3RR on Wikipedia:External links; see WP:AN/3RR. When you return, please work out edit conflicts on the article Talk: page. FeloniousMonk 00:30, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for voting in my RfA, I passed. I appreciate your input. Please keep an eye on me(if you want) to see if a screw up. HighInBC (Need help? Ask me) 15:54, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Commenting here, since as I mentioned I don't feel it's appropriate to continue at that venue.
You wrote: A contribution history dating back ten edits is not a real contribution history. I have a right to have an idea who is nominating articles for deletion based on their history - that is explicit in policy. I'm alleging violation of policy (bad faith is irrelevant) and as to double voting, a sock nomination automatically raises the suspicion. How could it not? Furthermore, Wikipedia:Deletion policy mandates discounting sock puppet "votes" in deletion discussions. Why should it be different for nominators? I am not aware who is behind the account - the user in question has declined to respond to messages on his talk page - and am not particulalry concerned with abuse. I am concerned with what I view as an invalid nomination by a new account.
Again I ask whether you have any evidence that the nomination is invalid or that the account is not a legitimate sock. Failing to assume good faith is not irrelevant when you proceed to declare a user suspect of double voting, vandalism, circumventing blocks, and breaking policy. It's irresponsible at best to make such statements without anything but a hunch to go on. The administration may ignore his !vote, but there's nothing I can see against bringing an article for deletion in that manner. If a double vote actually occurred, then that would be in violation of policy, but I don't think it's reasonable to assume that that's happened without any actual investigation into the matter.
I note also that you've made no such allegations about Highfructosecornsyrup, even though his account is only a week old and his contributions are limited to school articles and AfDs. I choose to assume good faith on his part, in the absence of evidence -- and in the same vein I'll assume you simply overlooked him. I admit to some curiosity, though, about your thoughts.
Anyway, while recognizing that there's reason for concern (the choice of username does not inspire confidence, and abusive sockpuppetry does make a mess of the situation), I still feel we should assume good faith in the absence of any concrete reason to do otherwise -- it's policy, but more importantly, it's the right thing to do. Although P.S. seems pretty clearly to be a sock, and is used specifically for this purpose, I haven't seen any reason to believe that the editor behind the account isn't attempting in good faith to improve the encyclopedia. I realize that there are people who take attempted deletion of articles personally (and there are people who take failed deletion attempts personally), but I don't think it serves any purpose to do so. Most articles are not nominated for deletion out of malice, and most keep !votes are not out of spite. I think we should assume that to be the case even for new accounts such as P.S. and HFCS, until we've got reason to believe otherwise. That's all I'm trying to get at.
(In that vein, I apologize for the sniping about ad hoinem arguments in my last reply. It might've been true, after a fashion, but it was glib and not helpful to the discussion.) Shimeru 09:15, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
I meant "stronger" as in the previous criteria (time here,activity level), not who has more power. I hope you did not interpret it as meaning "power". Voice-of-All 04:42, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Re your comments on the deletion review of the Starfleet alternate ranks and insignia article.
A line from my original comment in the DRV:
Your version of it:
I could now feel entirely justified in ignoring everything you contribute to a discussion, ever again, as you and the truth clearly have nothing more than a passing acquaintance. I won't, but come on, you have more sense than this. Nobody will pay attention to you if you continue act like this.
Even better is that you then complain about people misrepresenting your words. The hypocrisy of this is marvellous, and JJay, I salute you. Proto:: ► 10:08, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Hey, JJay! I didn't deliberately move your comment on the Michael Richards page. Another editor had inserted a comment in the middle of my comments. I was just moving his response to the bottom of my statements. I hadn't noticed that your edit came before his. Sorry for any misunderstanding. Cleo123 06:10, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi there! You said that "many users claim this page is inaccurate". Could you please point out a single user who makes this claim, and/or a single inaccuracy in this page? Because on the talk page, there is indication of neither. Rather, the dispute is about the "guideline" tag. User:Radiant 17:38, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
That wasn't so hard, was it? - brenneman 23:02, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm really annoyed.
After I and you and many others worked hard to make this article truly excellent and indeed an exemplar list on wikipedia, the same people that tried to get the previous list deleted come along a pull a scam like this.
I don't know if the deletion was marked at the top of the page, but I check the article from time to time and didn't notice it. They picket the holiday season when no one was looking, lost the vote, deleted anyhow using the same argument that was explicitly rejected by the community now and before. They gave no notice to the people who were watching the article. Doc Glasgow had previously been involved in the article and should have recused himself anyway. Hundreds of hours of people's time have been deleted on the whim of a admin with in axe to grind.
Carefully worked out criteria, methods of discussion, 120 references, dozens of articles linking in, a fantastic resource.
Again to refute the silly argument made by some that dictator is an "inherently POV" descriptor, simply search wikipedia for the word dictator and notice how many people are described that way. Britannica, Encarta etc all do so, as do all news outlets.
What can we do?
juicifer 13:48, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Please see I have written to complain about Tom Stone (magician). Jan Antwerpmagic 03:04, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
You keep reverting the proposed template. You seem to be a lone voice disputing this so may I suggest you use the talk page before reverting this again without a discussion. -- Spartaz 22:39, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the consideration you gave to my RfA. To be chosen as an administrator requires a high level of confidence by a broad section of the community. Although I received a great deal of support, at this time I do not hold the level of confidence required, and the RfA did not pass. You were one of the oppose votes, and raised concerns. I am more than willing to discuss those concerns with you if you are interested. Please let me know. Sincerely, -- BostonMA talk 03:29, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Hello, after a revert, you are supposed to leave the page as is and take things to talk, as per WP:1RR, WP:HEC, or WP:BRD (take your pick). You have not read the talk page for WP:TRI, where your concerns were already addressed. You have not responded to email yet (which you had requested in preference to talk page posting), so now I'm posting on your talk page... if you were not yet aware, please do not blindly revert. Always go to talk! (And then stay there until the situation is resolved). Thank you!
-- Kim Bruning 20:06, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Do not give people warnings if you're engaging in the same behavior yourself. Do not threaten people with blocks if you're not an admin. Do not issue condescending templated warnings to regular users. And do not throw stones if you're living in a glass house. Radiant 12:21, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Per my earlier note, I've opened a request for comment. - brenneman 02:30, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
You're a valuable editor. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 07:17, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Just a note, because I didn't want to revert anything before speking to you, that you removed a link to the JREF store on grounds that it was a "commercial bookstore". I wanted to explain that firstly, the link in question was direct to the authors website and thus surely should be allowed to be linked to in the relevant section of the page? And secondly that the JREF is a non commecial not-for-profit organisation. -- Mercifull ( Talk/ Contribs) 13:46, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Greetings JJay, I'm writing to inform you that I've decided to head up getting this page back to its former guideline designation. As one might guess User:Radiant! is editing to try to negate this push. Given your familiarity with this I was wondering if you might join the discussion about this. Also your previously edited on the shortcut WP:POLL which apparently you agreed with in terms of it pointing to Wikipedia:Straw polls (rather logical no WP:POLL → WP:POLLS ?). Radiant! doesn't agree with this logical redirection (and neither for WP:POLLS as well). Could you take a look at these too? Thanks. ( → Netscott) 08:16, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
It's things like this and this that inspire feelings of great justice in fellow Wikipedians. It's good to know that someone still has the energy to flip the argument back at Bus stop. I've all but zombified. -- C.Logan 01:29, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
Well, this makes a lovely read. -- C.Logan 05:53, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
I'll laugh if Cleo tries to represent communication like this as some sort of actual teamwork, but I'd like to ask you something. What's up with this? I'm curious as to why they consider you in such a light. It seems that Cleo had accused me of being a troll for responding to comments on Bus stop's page directly related to the discussion. I'm assuming you are in the same boat, but as it seems that they take your reasonable removal of Bus stop's latest personal attacks as vandalism, it's worth asking. Apparently, they aren't aware that there's no consensus on Wikipedia regarding the act of removing personal attacks, but that it is permissible in some instances- and considering that the statements you removed were somewhere near the hundreds mark for Bus stop's personal-attack-o-meter, I find this to be an acceptable instance.
Unfortunately, I'm reminded by this that many of my own statements are offensive and could be considered attacks. Though they are usually from frustration (or disbelief at the argument being put forth), I hope to curb such statements in future comments. -- C.Logan 10:02, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Well, this makes a lovely read. -- C.Logan 05:53, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
I'll laugh if Cleo tries to represent communication like this as some sort of actual teamwork, but I'd like to ask you something. What's up with this? I'm curious as to why they consider you in such a light. It seems that Cleo had accused me of being a troll for responding to comments on Bus stop's page directly related to the discussion. I'm assuming you are in the same boat, but as it seems that they take your reasonable removal of Bus stop's latest personal attacks as vandalism, it's worth asking. Apparently, they aren't aware that there's no consensus on Wikipedia regarding the act of removing personal attacks, but that it is permissible in some instances- and considering that the statements you removed were somewhere near the hundreds mark for Bus stop's personal-attack-o-meter, I find this to be an acceptable instance.
Unfortunately, I'm reminded by this that many of my own statements are offensive and could be considered attacks. Though they are usually from frustration (or disbelief at the argument being put forth), I hope to curb such statements in future comments. -- C.Logan 10:02, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your reasonable comments of late regarding religious issues. However, I note that your talk page is getting almost as long as some of the threads in the Talk:List of notable converts to Christianity page. Anyway, keep up the good work. :) John Carter 13:58, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
I have requested ArbCom leave your comments here. Arbustoo 17:23, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
JJay, I'm unsure why you keep removing that template, which is trying to fix the very problem you have with the lists in the first place. The lists are filled with unsourced claims; the template encourages people to remove dubious items. Jayjg (talk) 22:01, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/HHO gas (4th nomination)#ems_comments. Those sources are not worth much of anything. -- EMS | Talk 23:24, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
With regards your edit summary here, I would suggest you "get real" and stop violating our biographies of living people policy. This was the version that complied with policy, and this edit inserted a BLP violation into the article as it had no sources. One Night In Hackney 303 03:13, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Damnit JJay - I'm so sorry about this! I have no idea how I managed to revert the Chicago Graduate School of Divinity back into the article twice. I was obviously trying to keep the well-cited fact removed (twice, I think) by anonymous editors but somehow I got my wires crossed and the Chicago Graduate School of Divinity got caught up in my reverts. Thanks for noticing and fixing my mistakes! -- ElKevbo 16:49, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
On the Talk:Bob Dylan page, we have once again been told that there is no evidence of the subject having ever converted by you know who. I think you can answer this better than I can. John Carter 01:17, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
An article that you have been involved in editing, List of unaccredited institutions of higher learning, has been listed by me for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of unaccredited institutions of higher learning. Thank you. --Dynaflow babble 04:41, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
I have submitted a report on User:Bus stop on the ArbCom page here. As an individual who was involved in this debate, your participation would be appreciated. Thanks. Drumpler 17:29, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Hello,
You were involved in a debate back in March/April regarding an article on the band Dryve.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Dryve
For whatever reason, it was resurrected again for debate and deleted.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Dryve_%28second_nomination%29
Could you be of help in reversing the deletion? I was a founding member of the band and I can fully verify any and all of the information in the article. I firmly believe it meets the requirements laid out in WP:MUSIC.
Thank you and please contact me if you need any more information.
Keith Andrew kickstar1@hotmail.com -- Kickstar1 04:55, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
Please involve yourself on my count Idontwantaccount2 17:23, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
This is to inform that the Singapore Airlines fleet article has been nominated for deletion by Russavia. Please refer to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Singapore Airlines fleet (2nd nomination) and weigh in your opinion if you wish. Thank you!-- Huaiwei 06:58, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
As you participated in the prior TfD, I thought you would be interested that it has been proposed for deletion once again. You can find the discussion here. SkierRMH 02:43, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
An article that you have been involved in editing, Beecon, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Beecon (2nd nomination). Thank you. ... discospinster talk 23:06, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
The article Rebecca Cardon is being discussed concerning whether it is suitable for inclusion as an article according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rebecca Cardon (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 20:40, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
I saw one of your comments on a page giving guidance about external links to YouTube. You stated that if the link adds value and does not violate copyright, it should be linked.
I have added a requested edit to a medical topic; I’m a year away from my degree (medical doctor). The edit request is a link to a YouTube video that I created, and is therefore a conflict of interest (I also earn an insignificant amount from the ads that run on the video).
I have been declined by three people simply because it goes to YouTube, and/or because someone might earn money from it, but nothing actually addresses the value of the content or the copyright issue (which are both fine).
What advice do you have? Talk page on hepatic encephalopathy Tmbirkhead ( talk) 03:02, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
Warning:
Due to excessive wiki-stalking, trolling and ongoing provocation, messages should not be left on this page unless absolutely necessary. Please use Email or article talk pages. Note that pages mentioned here are often nominated very rapidly for deletion or otherwise targeted for removal. I will generally not respond to messages left here.
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I am offended by your make it into high school comment in the Jose of the Future deletion page. I am going to publish this book soon enough. As for you: tell me why you did this at User Talk: FE411.
The article Woburn Gifted clearly does not fall under the description "it is an article about a real person that does not assert the importance or significance of the subject," with which you tagged it. It is an article about a school department. Please be more considerate with your use of these tags. But welcome to Wikipedia and good luck. Christopher Parham (talk) 05:11, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
Copyright issues are tricky. As per my comment on the deletion page- The label may be non-profit, but the boltfish site clearly asserts copyright (scroll to bottom of page) and has the same text as Wiki article [ [1]] -- JJay 23:17, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
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Hey there! Thanks for helping out with creating AfDs. The one you made for Pandilla Graphica seems to refer to a nonexistent article. Which article was it that you wanted to set the AfD for? -- HappyCamper 00:30, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for working on RC Patrol to catch copyvios. You might also want to consider plinking the uploading user's page with {{ nothanks-sd}}. I went ahead and used it on the anon's page. It's not a huge deal, I only just used it for the first time on the anon that uploaded that article, but I'd like to encourage other users to consider using it as well, just to help spread the gospel of trying to avoid copyright infringements. Keep up the good work! Ëvilphoenix Burn! 06:23, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
...for extensive work on VFD.
Molotov
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23:45, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
Your French?. C'est magnifique! -- JJay 21:16, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
thanks for reverting the vandalism on my user page. At least we can't deny the guy/girl's got perseverance. DocendoDiscimus 17:44, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
I am sorry it looks like a flame war. I am trying my best to continue to keep my responses to JM as civil as possible, under the circumstances. I know they have accused me of calling them names. The record shows, however, this is untrue.
I have suggested that their edits, and attempts to subvert wiki procedures, give the strong appearance of bad faith. I stand by that. I don't think I am doing the wikipedia community any good by enduring their attacks without comment.
As you can see they have been attacking me personally, my judgement, maturity, grammar, intellectual honesty. And they have been following me around, and slapping bogus {copy-vio}, {AfD}, {npov}, {disputed} tags on just about every article I touch. Or they make massive excisions, unexplained, or with bald explanations like "removing obvious bias". Believe me, it is extremely unpleasant.
I know it is unpleasant to watch a flame war. But I don't think I am flaming back.
I went through almost whole week of unpleasantness from them, misrepresentations of what I said, ignoring my attempts to reach compromise, while I continued to reply in a textbook manner of conciliation and assuming good will. Or, at least, that is how I remember it. Finally their misrepresentations on the {copy-vio} page caused me to be prepared to be more blunt. And I openly said I thought they were giving the appearance of bad faith.
JM is following me around, and every article they see me edit they consider making a target for deletion. This phase of their attacks has been going on for six days now. And my well of ability to "assume good will" on their part is pretty well exhausted. Yes, I reply to those, I reply to their bogus {npov} tags, their bogus {disputed} tags, their unexplained massive excisions. Under the circumstances I think I am as civil as anyone could reasonably expect from me. Could I be wrong about that? Sure. I won't ask you to give our exchanges a more than cursory study. But, if you do give it a more than cursory study, and still think I should be more moderate in my replies to them, please feel free to tell me.
A couple of days ago they made a series of responsible mature edits. And since they were making comments in the talk pages to draw people's attention to the responsible efforts they made I gave them some sincere praise and encouragement, to show that I could assume good will as soon as they started acting responsibly. It seems to have backfired. It seems to have just triggered a further barrage of attacks.
I didn't paste the contents of Bush on the Couch into Justin Frank. You and I started editing out the obvious malice from the Justin Frank article at the same time. You finished first, when you scaled it back to a mere stub. I finished second, with my removal of the attacking material. Do you think I should revert my edit, back to your stub, to accomodate JM?
Do you think I should roll it back to your stub in case the result of the {AfD} is a delete? I think that deletion is unlikely at this point.
But, if you really think it is well advised to scale Justin Frank back to a mere stub, I will do so.
Thanks for your removal of the personal attack. -- Geo Swan 17:44, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
Just wondering, why did you move Indu to [ [2]]? It seems very strange. Thelb ' 4 16:22, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I've modified AFD:Al-Zubair with facts and references. It would be nice if you can spare some time to read it, and hopefully to reconsider its deletion (or make some comments on my talk page). -- Goldie (tell me) 22:18, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Is there any reason why you removed a comment on this page? They should be left there as part of the public record. If it was because the comment was not signed, the proper resonse would have been to add the unsigned template. -- JJay 13:57, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
My apologies, shoddy editing, I did not intend to remove the comment. Rjayres 16:12, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
Hallo JJay
Because of the articles (Iraqi Kurdistan front), (Action Party for the Independence of Kurdistan), (Conservative Party of Kurdistan), (Kurdistan National Democratic Union), (Kurdish Revolutionary Hizbullah), (Kurdistan Revolutionary Party) and (Kurdistan Socialist Democratic Party) I would like to say to them that the author John E. Pike permission given only whom John E. Pike mentioned becomes
Iraqi Kurdistan Front (Kurdish: Berey Kurdistani Iraq) In 1988 the Kurdistan Democratic Party, the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, the KPDP, the Kurdistan Democratic Party of Iran, and the Popular Alliance of Socialist Kurdistan together formed the Iraqi Kurdistan Front and and and and and
See also author: John E. Pike
Please again back the article (I thanks you) melat 16:35, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
The author (John E. Pike) permitted only to whom its name in the article be stand you understand
JJay see Iraqi Kurdistan Front
you understand now
Hi HappyCamper
Die ganze zeit versuche ich JJay zur erklären das diese Artikel nur veröffentlichen darf wen der Autor des Artikel John E. Pike im Artikel stehet. ich habe gerade eine Beispiel gemacht in dem ich Iraqi Kurdistan Front veröffentlichte und gezeigt habe wo der Autor des Artikel stehen soll aber es wurde wieder gelöscht schau einfach rein. melat(UTC)
I have a feeling that none of that site's content is permissible on Wikipedia and will likely be deleted, if not by me, then by another admin. I've put in a request for Angr to take a look at it because he can speak German very well. See the bottom of his talk page for more details.
By the way, thanks for all your work with tagging copyrighted material on Wikipedia. It's a big help around here. :-) -- HappyCamper 20:11, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
Could you kindly go back and have a look at it now! It is still very basic; but perhaps restoring the "stub" tag would help. At this stage it seems a pity to lose the links, since they may help competent editors to expand the article. (Not that they themselves cannot find them, if they have the time to make a search.) Many thanks! 09:13, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
You listed this article for CSD, and it was so speedied. The discussion at WP:DRV#Modojo for 3 Nov concludes this speedy was in error: you may like to have a look at the discussion. In general you should not list an article for CSD with half an hour of its creation, and particularly not if it is receiving many edits, even if the article would otherwise qualify. --- Charles Stewart 15:26, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
I take issue with this comment "Bad faith nom per Geo Swan. -- JJay 15:22, 5 November 2005 (UTC)" As I said over there, before (or in this case after) you accuse someone of bad faith, why not look at the article, as it existed when the AfD was made. In this case, here is the original text:
Executive Order 12333 extends the powers and responsibilities of US intelligence agencies and directs the leaders of other US federal agencies to co-operate fully with CIA requests for information.
That was it, verbaitm. Is that "encyclopedic"? While we are on the subject, please take a look at the dozens of poorly written articles that Geo Swan has put up, including the ones I have taken the time to fix. I can't keep up with him. Cleanup tags don't work. AfD's don't work. The talk page does not work. For example, please look at the before and after (my edits and his originals) on
There's a lot more, but... this should be enough for now. Joaquin Murietta 16:13, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
Would you please take a look at Juma Mohammed Abdul Latif Al Dossary, at both versions and give us your considered advice. I edited the article and Geroge reverted it. I think that his version has clear spelling errors and POV issues. If you run google on the subject's name, Wikipedia] is the first entry, so I think the article should be stronger. Joaquin Murietta 16:56, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
I have deleted The Video Surveillance of Presidents by the Justice Department. In the speedy tag and the talk page you refer to an AfD debate but don't link to it. It is not at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Video Surveillance of Presidents by the Justice Department. So where is it? -- RHaworth 18:11, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
Why do you keep vandalizing my pages? -- Beatyou 03:44, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
I had a conversation with the copyright holder. It can be seen in the Helpdesk-l mailing list archives here, following the "next message" link at the bottom. Generally, don't remove copyvio listings unless you are 100% sure the content was GFDL-licensed. Cheers, [[Sam Korn]] 16:12, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
Same goes for Ryan Lake. Do some research before you wantonly tag these things.
I think you're right. I could have sworn I did a cursory search to check the basic facts about the guy when I initally reverted vandalism on him, but it looks like I didn't. Google seems to get only wikimirors and non-related things. Go ahead an AfD. I'll support, unless someone can establish that he is a writer for the Village Voice (though whether that's sufficient notability is also debatable). - R. fiend 23:50, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
The Aetna information I added to thier site was from internal documents as an employee. I am using information we have for press releases and media, so all the info I added to the Aetna site was information that Aetna allows to be published to press, etc. Wikipedia would be considered that.
But the Footballers Wives information, you deleted storylines that were on a fan site that I updated and changed so it wasnt copy and paste and also deleted the following, all of which were not copyrighted: Footballers Wives: Extra Time With the success of Footballers Wives came the spinoff series, Footballers' Wives: Extra Time that began on ITV2 on 26 May 2005. It aired after Series Four of the original and many cast members, including Amber, Harley, Shannon, Bruno, Lucy and Seb, appeared on the series. It ran for 12 episodes.
Foreign Audience Footballers Wives currently airs in Sweden, Australia, Netherlands, Finland and Hungary. It began in the United States in the summer of 2005 on BBC America. It aired Series One & Two and Series Three is scheduled to premiere on 3 February 2006.
DVD Release Series One - Three have been released on DVD in the United Kingdom. Series Four has only been released in Australia. It will be released in the U.K. on 27 March 2006. Series One was also released in the U.S.
Mark concerning the storylines, its ok to draw on stuff from websites, just don't take it word for word. Rewrite it so it doesn't sound like advertising copy and then cite the source as a link (and try to use mainstream sources).
With the Kent School District, I thought the legal stuff was a good addition but maybe a bit too long. If it can be condensed it would be more effective. Also links to sources or opposing viewpoints are obviously a plus.
Anyway I didn't mean to come down on you and I realize you didn't know the policy on copyvios (which are one of my pet peeves). I've made plenty of mistakes too. Wikipedia can be complicated but its fun and I know you'll enjoy contributing. Welcome aboard. -- JJay 01:54, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
Hello Cryptic. What's the policy on use of material from www.wga.hu. I've noticed that numerous verbatim articles and images are being submitted from this site. They state their policy as follows:
Does Wikipedia have blanket approval for using this material? Also, www.wga.hu provides extensive references for their content, which they themselves may or may not have permission to use. See sources [ [8]]. At the very least, shouldn't Wikipedia's use of this content be clearly acknowledged on article talk pages. -- JJay 19:08, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your speedy response. I've reviewed the new pages submitted by Attilios so far this month. The following are all copyvios from www.wga.hu without any reference on the article talk pages:
...
There are probably many more if I look at edits from Attilios in October or earlier. Unless www.wga.hu has released their database under GFDL, I think we need to state clearly where we are getting our material (particularly as none of the articles have links or sources). Could you let me know how to proceed? I don't really want to tag all this as copyvios, but I will without a clear direction on policy. -- JJay 01:26, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your response. Enthusiasm is good and I'm not accusing you of fraud or anything like that. I am contacting www.wga.hu to secure GFDL permission for all the articles submitted as well as future content. They may very well grant permission for this. In that case, the main thing that needs to be done is to acknowledge the permission on the article talk pages. If they refuse permission, though, then I'm afraid that the copyright material would have to be removed from the articles. -- JJay 19:43, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
You voted "strong keep" because you suspected bad faith on that vote. I think you are mistaken - according to wikipedia a list can be immediately revoted for deletion if there was a no "consensus" - which there was in the last case. Clearly, with so many DELETE votes now, the call for revote was a good call. Please reconsider your vote for "stong keep" as it will probably slow down the process for the deletion of this - as it may create another "no consensus" - thank you for reading. 65.9.143.84 20:13, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
Hi - Appearances notwithstanding, I didn't actually mean to single you out in my comment. I apologize if you took this as a personal comment. By and large, I really don't care for any of the "intersection" categories. I'm not sure what to do about this (it's irked me for quite some time), but in this specific instance there seems to be a claim that this category carries an inherent anti-LGBT POV. It might - but, it might not as well. In any event, I thought a personal message about this might be warranted. -- Rick Block ( talk) 05:38, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
User talk:67.171.237.88 created Category:LGBT murderers this morning, you may want to cfd it or watch it so you know when its been cfded. Arniep 16:00, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
Hi, the sock puppet you spotted, the nominator of Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2005_November_18#List_of_Jewish_jurists (your comment:Strong Keep. Changing my vote. Don't like anon noms here + 2nd anom vote, both out of Atlanta.-- JJay 05:55, 23 November 2005 (UTC)) is back at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2005_November_26#List_of_Jewish_American_scientists Thanks Arniep 01:09, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
Is you. That was a great response to IZ or whatever his name is on the deletion page for the Jewish categories. I too am sick of the constant nominations and I have been a very strong supporter of categories for every single religious and ethnic group (I was behind Spanish-Americans and Portuguese-Americans, among others). Way to go and it's pretty clear, based on the votes, that these categories aren't getting deleted. I'm just worried that we are now going to get every single Jewish category nominated separately, in which case I am pretty sure that I am just going to remove the AFD on grouds of Extreme Annoyance and the heck with the consequences. Vulturell 07:35, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
Two users in particular The Literate Engineer & Voice of All(MTG) have apparently made it their duty to get rid of the list and they have been using underhanded tactics in an attempt to do so in any way they can.
But word is getting out, and supporters of the list are starting to rally against them and protect the list (via rerverting vandalism, countering their tactics, etc.).
The following anonymous clean-up notice was posted to the list on November 1st:
23:44, 1 November 2005 68.17.227.41
The notice was placed without group consensus, and there was no edit comment. Pretty sneaky.
This was the user's only edit. Nothing before or after. A sock-puppet.
That's 10 votes to keep, out of which 3 voted to clean up. Seven out of ten clearly voiced their desire to retain the list without deleting its entries.
Voice of All(MTG) reported the results as " ", and he and The Literate Engineer used that as the basis to erase the content of the list, which they did in successive edits.
During the 10 November AfD discussion, Voice of All(MTG) moved the list to the new article name sexual slang, citing the introduction at the top of the list as the basis for the move ("it is more than a list"). Several users then used the article title as an argument against including any list entries.
When an article is moved, the change history is moved with it, and a redirect is placed under the original article's title. If the redirect is edited, then the article cannot be moved back. That is exactly what has happened to the list. See Wikipedia:Merging and moving pages for more information.
The change history of the list is currently stranded as the change history of Sexual slang.
The content of the list itself has been restored to List of sexual slang, where it was originally. This preserves the spirit of the results of the two AfD discussions mentioned above.
Remember, the three reversion limit does not apply when reverting vandalism. Only if enough concerned users participate will this be successful.
Thank you for taking the time to read this letter. Red Rover 21:58, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
JJay can you have a look at the discussion here User_talk:OwenX#User:StabRule. User:StabRule has now placed a third vote on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Jewish jurists and Owenx for some reason is refusing to even warn the user, I don't understand whats going on here. Arniep 22:15, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
I hearby award you these non-yellow tennis-balls of friendship.
And for your clothing preference: http://www.tenniscompany.com/images/Clothing_Volkl_BlackShorts.JPG
Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 19:03, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
What in the world are you referring to? Do you really expect me to know what you're talking about? john k 00:35, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Looking at it now, I have no idea how the revert came about. I was not attempting to revert at all, simply to add a period. I suppose I must have been looking at an old version of the article, or something. At any rate, it was an accident, and I would appreciate it if you didn't make accusations against me, without any specifics, and then refuse to even explain what you mean. john k 04:09, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
If you had simply said what you were referring to, I would not have responded with annoyance. As it was, I was standing accused of something which I had no memory of doing. Obviously, I was somewhat careless in accidentally reverting. If you had cited the change and asked me why I reverted in your initial comment, I would have quickly seen that I made a mistake, and apologized. As it stands, I'm not going to apologize for anything, because you've been a dick about the whole thing. john k 05:23, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Okay, I may have been a bit quick off the handle here. I apologize for being rude, and I shouldn't have called you a dick. That said, your original comment was one about what was obviously an inadvertent reverting mistake - even if the revert itself had been purposeful, it can be presumed that I wasn't trying to change usage back to "oppresicly." As such, it was, from the beginning, quite likely that I would not be able to gather what you were talking about from your initial comment. This would have been easily solved by you simply saying what you were talking about. I (perhaps rather rudely) responded, indicating that, indeed, I did not know what you were talking about. In your second comment, you continued to refuse to indicate what you were talking about, forcing me to go back through the contributions list and figure out what was going on. Once again, all that would have been necessary to prevent this entire unfortunate exchange would have been if you had simply indicated the article you were referring to in your first comment to me. Most of the unpleasantness could have been prevented if you had simply linked me after my first comment. Basically, people do a lot of stuff on wikipedia. If you provide a completely out of context statement on a talk page, you ought not be surprised that the person you are speaking to does not know what you are referring to. If that out of context statement is a criticism, you ought not be surprised that the person responds somewhat hostilely. And if you continue to act as though they should automatically know what you're talking about, after they've indicated that they don't, you ought not be surprised that they react even more hostilely. This is not to defend my conduct in this exchange - I have clearly not handled this very well - but just to say that my conduct does not arise out of natural irascibility, but as a fairly predictable result of the way you have dealt with this issue. john k 06:35, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi, you may be interested in this: Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Antidote. I would appreciate if you could endorse the dispute at Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Antidote#Users_certifying_the_basis_for_this_dispute Thanks, Arniep 15:14, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
I acknowledge that you may be right as for the Hilton Becker thing: I'm a little preoccupied today, and may not have given the merits of the article proper consideration relative to its flaws.
Once I'm finished with my today's (paying) project, I'll go over the relevant pages more carefully and perhaps undelete the page. Or perhaps I'll leave it deleted, but either way I'll let you know. Okay? DS 18:04, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
I'm making them - see Stanford Ovshinsky - so if you have time go ahead and help me out. Antidote 23:32, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
It's pretty funny that Antidote recently made Category:Slovak inventors and Category:Serbian inventors under an anon ip and another of his interestingly named accounts User:EscapeArtistsNeverDie, and just said "one does not wish to start a revolution of ethnic battling on wikipedia with List of German inventors, List of Chinese inventors, and List of Native Inuit Eskimo inventors". LOL Arniep 20:46, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
So how far did it get? Can those articles stay? I would like to end it once and for all. Renata3 22:14, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
I'd just like to say 'thanks' for defending List of fictional Elvis impersonators. I am the creator (something I'm not pointing out on the VfD page), but I am by no means the only contributor. I admit it's not something of striking importance, but it's good to know there are other people who consider it worth keeping. - Litefantastic 00:43, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
Please do not delete us. There are tons of Ghava™ collaborators listed on Wikipedia that discuss projects in which Ghava™ has been involved in creatively. We are in the process of adding more information discussing the art exhibitions GHava™ has been involved with domestically as well as internationally.
On a separate note, The Designers Republic are listed here. Why is GH avisualagency™ being marked for deletion. GHava™ is the same type of collective and have collaborated with many of the same people. This is not making any logical sense.-- lerner
I have created an article about the England cricketer called Barry Wood (cricketer). If the current article in the namespace is deleted as seems likely, I would like to move the article about the cricketer into the namespace. Most of the What Links Here for Barry Wood are for the cricketer. Capitalistroadster 09:50, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi JJay,
You voted keep on Consumerpedia. I have lodged a comment on that page disagreeing, with a bit of new information. Please reconsider your vote. Thanks!
DanKeshet 22:12, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
I know we've never seen eye to eye, but they're trying to delete this article. Deleting it and keeping NA and Black American lists is just racist IMHO. Gateman1997 00:42, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I think it would be a pity to have this disappear but it has to be reduced in size to meet wiki standards. The easiest would be to turn it into a top level page pointing to 26 alphabetical linked pages. But I think added value would be got by breaking it down by arrondissement - you ask how would this make it smaller and it's true that some streets would duplicate over of the 20 arrondissement but, even still, each of the 20 articles would be close to the recommended 30K or so. The two solutions are complementary rather than mutually exclusive. Dlyons493 Talk 11:07, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
I mentioned it because that particular construction is rather confusing. Expand is obviously a keep-style comment, but you didn't actually say "and delete unless expanded", you just offered delete as another, opposing, option. It would have been clearer had you expanded the article (or phrased differently). On the broader point, I personally think those who say an article should be expanded should do some of the legwork they are mandating. That's just a personal opinion, though. - Splash talk 01:14, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for switching to the correct template! Bjelleklang - talk 06:12, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
i read your comment on the GH avisualagency AfD page and saw that you have extensive experience on here. i am trying to contribute to the GH article but everyone on the discussion page keeps giving me the wrong advice. most insisted that i have to prove notability, then they said that it was wrong to list articles about the collective. i don't know who to believe as they all keep leading me astray. if you could please offer me any advice on how to make the article better or make any adjustments yourself i would sincerely appreciate it. even if it does get deleted, at least i will have known that i tried my best to make it a better article. thanks so much.
Inspectorpanther 16:38, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
Cheers! -- Ezeu 14:41, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi JJay. The guy is obviously getting bothered by your replying to a bunch of his votes on AfD, so see if you can refrain doing it, as things are better when things are mellow. Thanks! Proto t c 15:13, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
Wondering what you think of exploding animal now? CanadianCaesar The Republic Restored 20:47, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi, how do you go about getting an undeletion vote? The above article was deleted with a 10 Keep/Merge to 12 Delete vote, which sure as hell aint the two thirds majority supposedly needed! Jcuk 07:32, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
Hmm... so what's the difference in correct usage between copyvio and db-copyvio? Melchoir 08:01, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
OK, so I mistagged something a few minutes after entry. I err on the side of dropping an SD tag on most of the questionable Newpage stuff I find. If anything, this appears to be my third mistagged speedy delete out of 471 speedies (inclusive of those three), so overall it's not so bad. Heck, that's better than the US Army right now. It sounded like a stack of nonsense to begin with, and I admit I should've googled it, but I went to Allmusic first and there was no entry for them. That said, I don't think that the album itself needs an entry. Overall, the group doesn't meet WP:MUSIC either, so I'm going to keep an eyeball on it for a little while. RasputinAXP talk contribs 14:20, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
1. The AfD discussion was not closed at the point I posted to it, nor was it closed (according to my browser) when I exited it. I assume, this having happened before, that there is some lag time between when an article is closed and when that closure is effective. Whatever the case, I know what I am doing, and at the time I posted my comment, the AfD was still open for comment. I feel no need to apologise for technical issues.
2. I have no idea whether you are just now completing junior high (or whatever you call it where you live) or if you have a Master's degree. I did not venture a guess on that in my post. I can speak only for my experience, not for yours. My remarks concerning your school experience are entirely relevant. Those people who remain connected with their schools have an entirely different perception of the importance of that school than those who do not. Were I to learn that you have not been in touch with your high school since the day you walked out the door, I wouldn't touch your perception as far as I could hurl it. On the other hand, if you have continued to maintain touch with staff and former students, or if you have a child who is attending this school, I would be more than willing to give credence to your account (while still subjecting it to the necessary requirements of noteworthiness).If you are indeed "surrounded by other snickering acne-covered juveniles, many of whom will go on to become distinguished alumni, notable enough to warrant mention on a wikipedia page", you may wish to reconsider an article when in fact these juveniles are actually "distinguished".
Wikipedia is not a crystal ball.
3. My perspective is well outside the mainstream? Nice try. While school debates are regularly closed with no consensus, it is extremely rare that they are closed with consensus. Heretical? You've only been here a few weeks. I will allow you the right to be wet behind the ears.
4. I beg mercy for the inability to read your mind. "...while I was adding information..." is not exactly a good reason for me to be shouting hurrahs for the completeness of this article. Moreover, your implicit criticism of my inability to type is petty at least.
If you can find me a notable high school beside which I may be properly recondite, fine. I have no issue with articles on schools which are properly notable, and that notability may occur for several reasons. I will not, however, accept, as you appear to, that a school is notable merely because there are students in the building. This is an encyclopedia, not a yellow pages. We require that individuals, bands, businesses, and web sites show some degree of worthiness for inclusion in Wikipedia. In my judgement, if a school has not been deemed worthy of inclusion in some non-school documentation, then it is not worthy of inclusion here. I trust you understand my position now. Please enlighten me on yours.
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I had noticed you regularly vote to keep almost every article on WP:VFD, especially lists of X. I can assure you that to keep open ended and popular enough list is very hard and unpleasant experience. Maybe if you try to do it yourselves you may change your opinion.
It is quite common for novices to forget encyclopedia is not repository of everything. The task of VFD should be to give more experienced people tool to stick with WP rules and aims. Pavel Vozenilek 03:03, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for being one of the few people who found us interesting enough to keep in the discussion about deleting S23 Wiki. Mutante23 08:12, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
Mr/Ms JJay thank you for your almost sole vote to keep my article Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Promises of troop withdrawal by American presidents. FYI, I have given up on the article, attempted to mend fences with the perp who started this, and now will include the info in Election promise.
I also really liked your wit in the above post when the guy accused you of being a novice because you almost always vote to keep an article. Thank you sir/ma'am. Travb 12:43, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
I posted my Google search results to the talk page. User:Dzonatas created this page and three templates last night as a result of a discussion about copyediting Joan of Arc.
He asserts that the United States Securities and Exchange Act of 1934 is a usage guideline for medieval history articles. "Forward-looking statement" is not a linguistics term. To toss this together with "gerund" and assert it has anything to do with centuries-old subjects is WP:Complete Bollocks. The term has a very narrow technical application in United States financial law. Either this editor is very confused or it's a deliberate attempt to snow people. Durova 18:56, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
Just wanted to say awesome job on the copyedit and merging! Nice work. Tom Foolery 00:18, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
I understand your position (I've seen it e.g., at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/TEACCH) and respect you vote. I just want to let you know that I knew what I was doing when I was nominating this page. I could have explained you in more detail, but at the moment it will be just waste of our time. Cheers, mikka (t) 03:30, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for helping out on that article. The supporters to keep it really appreciate the feedback, especially me. However, it has, unfortunately been deleted. One of the Wikipedians' rationale for deleting it was the paper thing, and 'that it justifies POV?' Well, as I previously stated, the article could've been edited to conform to NPOV. But you can't stop a deletionist any way you try in most cases. I supposes deletionism is predominant among members of Wikipedia, and thus it would be very difficult to keep any article, even with diligence. I just don't seem do understand it in most cases. But anyway, thank you for all the feedback you offered us Inclusionists, and others against deleting that informative article. Эйрон Кинни 04:36, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
On December 21, you voted on this AfD, stating "Weak keep and cleanup. May be notable as president of the Federation. Need some Australian input."
At the moment, it's 4-2 including your vote, so it's at risk of being a no-consensus keep. Every Australian to vote has voted delete, as he's not notable here. More importantly, however, the article isn't in any way verifiable, and it concerns me that such an article might be kept. Would you consider changing your vote? Ambi 09:17, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
Please reconsider your vote at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Crabtree. I believe the subject of the article being AFDed is not the same person as the Guardian author. His blog seems even less than non-notable, and the article completely vanity. Please see the updates I've posted at the AFD. Thanks. Blackcats 22:47, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
Well, I now know personally that you do vote to delete articles, Have you considered the merge option? I have added some comments to the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of U.S. foreign interventions since 1945 page which may help change your mind. Travb 01:15, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
Nobody ever said look was a criteria for deletion. We were merely poking fun. We are allowed to have fun, aren't we? Search 4 Lancer 07:50, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for your comment. Regards, Durova 17:27, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
Hey there, thanks for merging the headmaster thing... I wasn't sure what to do there, but the headmaster part I thought would look weird because I just realised I don't have the full list of headmasters from both the high school and junior school and I thought it might look rather dumb... I'll get the full list for the past 176 years and then post it... -- KryptonZone 12:34, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
Yeah agreed, I will be able to stick it in, only 9 for the high school and like another 6 or 7 for the junior school. Thanks for the help anyways, it's really nice :) -- KryptonZone 13:02, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi JJay,
Tally count is 10 keep votes, 6 merge votes, and 1 delete. Majority vote 59%. Merge is not very similiar to keep, because the content is brought over to another article, and the original article deleted/redirected. No consensus is just something academic, because by default it is a "keep" conclusion de facto. So there. :)
Let me know if you need further clarification on my talkpage.
- Greetings!, Mailer Diablo 19:16, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your comment. I only disputed the inaccurate claim that Marx converted from Judaism: it is misleading to claim that a baptism in childhood in an irreligious family constitutes a conversion. --- Charles Stewart 19:46, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks kindly for the heads-up. I definitely had to weigh in there. I agree that he's kind of a borderline case, but for me he's at least marginally on the keep side too. Bearcat 05:43, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for improving this. I've noticed, that lately you've been one of the top, new school article improvers around here; which is nice to see . -- Rob 03:25, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
No sweat. Even if you don't sign up, you're always welcome contribute to it, in any area, like the notable alumni info I'm gathering there. -- Rob 06:42, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
Added: If you are really keen on saving speedied articles, you may wish to check out Wikipedia:Watch/schoolwatch/New, as the red-links are generally speedied articles. Often the entire contents are so small they are included in the deletion summary (which you can view). You'll never catch ever speedy-tagged article before delete, so it's worthing noting they're still "saveable" after (mostly, not always). -- Rob 07:38, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
JJay,
I've noticed that you're a bit, well, terse in AfD discussions. There are several reasons that this is less than desirable, most of which I've already mentioned. However, it also lends to the less-than-collegial atmosphere of the discussions. We expect that people who nominate will take a little bit of time to explain why they think something should be deleted, and anyone else who takes part in the discussion should also make some effort to add something other than a naked vote. -
brenneman
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(c) 00:44, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
I wish you hadn't removed my speedy req on the List of insider traders page I started. I want to go back to the drawing board on that one. I think the categories and lists of market stuff are not in good shape, or at least I have a lot of trouble navigating through things that should be related, but I now reckon what I started won't improve the situation. The problems will be with charges being brought as other offences (say securities fraud in the US, I think), with how widespread insider trading was reputed to be in the US in the 1920s (but which will be very difficult to prove enough to add a pejoritive like insider trader to people from that time), and with closely related scandals missed for not quite being literally insider trading (I'm thinking for instance of Sumitomo copper here). So, as I say, I want to revert and look probably at improving the categories, then think carefully about what manual summaries could be maintained. -- Kevin Ryde 01:14, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
Please remember to be civil. Your latest comments were in violation of that rule. Also your comment was not changed, the categorization it had incorrectly placed on the AFD was. Please note the difference as you had placed that AFD in a category it did not belong in, that was all that was corrected. Gateman1997 04:16, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
Excellent news. -- JJay 05:04, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
JJay, I appreciate your sense of humor in the AfD. I got a huge laugh from your idea of having a bot add GWB to every list, indluding List of Elvis impersonators. Thanks. Logophile 16:34, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
I researched and followed what I believed to be the correct course of action. Did I jump the gun; did I step in where an admin should have trod? Apparently. Was I attempting to "disrupt" something? Absolutely not. Has the assumption of good faith gone out the window? You tell me. One Wikipedian's edit summary—"what are you doing?"—might just as well have included the untyped "the hell" for the tone it took. This was not a pleasant experience... Radio Kirk talk to me 23:22, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
I was just wondering if it was just me who thinks aladin is notable. Thanks for verifying the Times - although if you see my discussion page girlinwhite did that a while back. Not that they pay any notice at AfD. Now - what more than a three page article in the world's leading newspaper could establish a person's notability? Probably the spread aladin got in the Asian Age! Call me a cynic about this one. Autumnleaf 01:41, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
I think you have a somewhat non-standard view of what Afd means, with respect to merges. There's a bit of discussion on this at Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_deletion#Is_vote_for_merger_binding_on_destination_article.3F that you might want to read. Merges and redirects can be done by anyone at any time. Of course, if there's disagreement, you talk it over on the talk page, just like any other content dispute. Articles are subject to editing at any time. A prior Afd is not meant to prevent normal editing of the article after it's over. Friday (talk) 19:51, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
The situation is relatively simple. You did not perform a merge. I undid the redirect. The AfD outcome was Keep, not merge. The discussion above is not relevant. -- JJay 19:55, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
Please stop attacking AfD nominations and nominators, or I will start deleting your comments. User:Zoe| (talk) 03:37, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi. An attempt is being made to force the deletion of all Jewish lists from Wikipedia. Please see the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Centralized_discussion/Lists_by_religion-ethnicity_and_profession#Proposed_amendment:_remove_most_Jewish-related_lists and my compromise proposals at Wikipedia_talk:Centralized_discussion/Lists_by_religion-ethnicity_and_profession#Proposal_to_make_Jewish_lists_and_categories_historical_only. Thanks Arniep 10:04, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi, you have voted in the afd for various Home&Away character articles. I have had a go at combining all the articles in a single article (which I admit still needs a lot of work). You can find it at Current Home and Away characters. I suggest we keep this article are either delete or re-direct the others. What do you think? I've given a couple of reasons on the deletion page why I think one aticle is better than individual ones. Thanks, Evil Eye 13:07, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
Please do not hesitate to continue to tell me when I say something you think is out of line. There's no tone of voice in text, and I'm always happy to err on the side of not offending. If you'd like, I'll dig up some diffs where I've given it good to people who nominate with "NN D". A nomination that does not both clearly state its reasoning and provide some evidence that the person had done some research really does no one any good. Not that mine are always perfect, but I do try.
I'm now off to redact.
brenneman (t) (c) 01:13, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
You voted to cleanup, can you be more specific. Do you want to prune the list or remove it? Thanks. Voice of All T| @| ESP 19:15, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
I realize you don't approve of merging, but there is no reason for you to do a merge template removal as you did here. This is unhelpful to the discussion and disrepectful to other editors. I'm glad you explained yourself on the talk page, but where's the harm leaving the template up? It may draw in more people to comment on the merits of the merge. Friday (talk) 15:07, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
Do you even keep track of your edits? To refresh your memory, here is a link to your edit redirecting the page. [14]. You did not explain this redirect, on the talk page or anywhere else. What gave you the right to shutdown through this unilateral redirect an ongoing discussion on improving the article, in which you were not a participant? You also did not seek to explain the merge tag you later placed on the article until after it was removed. The fact that you do not like an article's contents does not give you license to suppress the article. I would strongly ask that you consider respecting other editors and normal procedure. -- JJay 19:30, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
I was confused by an edit you made with a summary of "rv non-working redirect", please see Talk:Mootstormfront#non-working_redirect. Thanks. Friday (talk) 22:39, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
I'm rather busy. If you have a problem I can help you with, please let me know. However, your continued disingenuous distortions are growing tiresome, such as above where you first accuse me of trolling, deny redirecting, then admit I was right. In short, I can not devote all of the very limited amount of time I have available for this project in responding to your incessant inquiries. I would strongly suggest that you find a more useful way of contributing to wikipedia. -- JJay 23:00, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
You wrote: "What is more troubling is your propensity to only question votes that do not adhere to your line of thinking. In my opinion, that sort of rigid tunnel vision is best avoided if we want to build a viable project that serves the interests of all users. -- JJay 05:36, 10 January 2006 (UTC)"
If you have some links that are worth seeing, why not? Can you also point me to the page that lists project goals (and I don't mean guidelines or policy). Otherwise, thanks for being frank. -- JJay 05:55, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
These are in reverse order, just the last eight (?) times I saw that I gave someone my opinion of AfD. I haven't (willfully) biased the sample, just took what came quasi-randomly. I won't annotate, I'd prefer you just looked for yourself. -
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This is good stuff. I don't have time to make observations right now, but do you have links that date prior to Jan 1? -- JJay 10:13, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Yea, if it doesn't make sense than revert. I thought that it was totally transparent. Trying to eliminate the most eggregious "stick something in a list even if only twelve people say it" entries using the bluntest of tools.
There are mostly two urls per edit summary, but only for deleted entries. It took me a few tries to figure out what would fit. For things that looked like they were protologisms but appeared to have some provenance, I pasted the link in html comments.
Which entry was footnoted?
brenneman (t) (c) 09:33, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
The list needs to be pruned. There's no doubt about that and I hope to participate if it survives AfD. The footnoted term you removed was woofter. Also I almost never use standard google for references, I source using books or publication databases. -- JJay 09:43, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Please take this in the spirit in which it's intended.
I was looking for a particular item in my history, and couldn't find it. Recalling that you had commented on my comment, I looked at your contribution history. It's pretty striking. In your last 500 contrubtions, over half have been to AfD. That's a lot.
I'm a pretty heavy participant in AfD. Out of my last 500 contributions, 55 have been to AfD, and that includes the ten that I've closed.
I understand that you've got some pretty strong feelings regarding what should and shouldn't be included. I also note that the contributions that you do make to mainspace are fantastic. [23] But your time and energy would be much better spent making more of those and less time arguing on AfD.
The simple fact is that well written, well referenced articles about notable topics are very _very_ rarely deleted. Using the Jewfro example, merges result in no loss of information. I love merges. It's just not efficient to spend your time "saving" things. You'll wear yourself out. brenneman (t) (c) 02:03, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi there, I couldn't dig up anything on whether or not you were already an administrator, so excuse me if you already are, but I would like to nominate you for an RfA. I have seen you around on AfD, as I spend much time there myself, and I believe your reasoning and commitment are commendable. I think you would make a fine Admin. If you have no objection, I will nominate you as soon as I receive word that you will accept it. Contact me either on my talk page or on yours, I will watch this page to await your reply. Thanks, and good luck! Werdna648 T/ C\ @ 03:26, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
I see you echoed my comments on the Stockton Massacre discussion page. I was rather peeved when my nice straightfoward clean-up (IMHO) of the article was reverted. Rather than getting into a revert war, however, I decided to leave the situation sit for a while. I left an admin a note on the matter, but he said that resolving these questions wasn't his strong point.
Well, that was almost a month ago and the article hasn't changed. So, what should we do about this?? I've been considering going for mediation. Your thoughts?? Madman 00:06, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
I don't think that a discussion of gun control belongs here, no. This sort of discussion belongs under "gun control and assault weapons" or any some other gun control article. This article is supposed to be about the Stockton Massacre but spends most of its time discussing the cons of gun control. It shows an anti-gun control POV by quoting the Violence Policy Center's strategy on the matter.
And, no, the perpetrator's name is not mentioned, nor the victims, although the victims' names seem to be difficult to come by (I've looked). Madman 23:14, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
Why not move this into sexual slur as its own subsection, with a different name? Voice of All T| @| ESP 04:18, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
It is very counterproductive to be focusing on that when we are trying to establish criteria for the list. Please try to contribute constructively to the discussions. -- JJay 04:25, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
An AfD you participated in is now at deletion review. - brenneman (t) (c) 23:49, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
Was the result of the vote to keep the article or was it to redirect it to Aladdin? Or am I missing something? Englishrose 14:00, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
A crackpot is again requesting deletion of the article. [25] Your vote would be appreciated. Prof. Afshar 18:01, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
I wanted to clarify my last comment on the talk page and ask your opinion without it being part of the debate over there. When I said that I wanted to put together a list of terms and then get the references, I meant on the talk page, not the actual article. It occured to me you might have thought I meant in the article itself (which would of course would be counterproductive to everything we've discussed).
What I meant was that I thought perhaps we could develop a short proto-list on the talk page, with perhaps 10-15 popular terms under each category. We could generate the terms, but no term would be put in the actual article without references. I thought this would give us a chance to arrive at major terms we all agreed on (and debate the ones we didn't), and then we'd find the references for each terms before putting it in the article.
I'm concerned that the page is currently just at a standstill, so hope that we can move forward.
What do you think of this idea? StrangeAttractor 14:57, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
JJay, hi, I wanted your opinion on something... I have been attempting to follow the dispute resolution process to ask DreamGuy to cease his personal attacks. However, every time I post something on his discussion page at User_talk:DreamGuy, he simply deletes it, and accuses me of harassment. He's also deleting comments by User:Englishrose, and those of a third party. I spoke to an admin about it, and they advised me that for now, I should try to get other opinions. Could you please take a look at the page's history, and let me know your thoughts on the situation? Thanks. Elonka 00:37, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi,
Thank you for rescuing the article; your efforts are greatly appreciated. Cheers! Folajimi 01:19, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your vote on my RfA, and for taking your time to provide diffs for your issues. I am sorry that you feel so strongly about my edit to the Godcasting article, but what I deleted was crap - see the difference between the edit prior to mine (where I stub-tagged the article), and just ten or so edits earlier [26]. I didn't mean any offence, and am surprised that it bothered you.
I don't necessarily support the 'War on Blogs' fully (and I don't like the name) - but I do feel that there needs to be a project aimed at applying quality control to the blog-related articles on Wikipedia. This does not necessarily mean deleting articles - many just require cleaning up, and I do feel that information on blogs that does not deserve an article of its own could be merged into the article on the blogger. That is my opinion, though, and I appreciate many feel differently - and I would always respect that if I were to be named as an administrator.
The name 'War on Blogs' is unfortunate. If it was called Wikiproject:Blogs or something similar, then perhaps not only would it be less controversial, but editors from the other side of the fence would be more involved, providing some necessary balance. I would note that I or any of the other people keeping an eye on the 'war' have not seen the people involved do anything against policy.
When I said Timecop was my hero, I thought it was just a bit of fun, and I certainly wasn't aware he was the leader of the GNAA. I actually had to look up what GNAA meant. I don't expect you to change your vote, so I won't ask. But I did want to explain myself a little better, and I hope that I've done so. I don't like bad feeling going around. If you have any questions or issues that you would like me to respond to, please post them on my talk page. No hard feelings. All the best, Proto t c 14:31, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
I object to the derogatory approach that is displayed in AfD discussions and edit summaries. Regarding the GNAA, I have commented on Proto's user page. If as recently as 2.5 weeks ago he was not aware of this group, and was capable of signing a petition without any investigation, he is not ready to be an admin. -- JJay 15:32, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Hello JJay. I'm sorry that our first meeting would be head-on like that. You are welcome to check and pick my other edits apart, in search for anything done in bad faith. If you don't find anything, then I hope that you at least consider that my input at "aladin" isn't in bad faith either. No, I'm well aware that my knowledge of the business isn't fit to be posted in the encyclopedia, if it isn't verified in print. But the talk pages isn't the encyclopedia. Thanks to said knowledge, I'm able to find sources that are hard to find elsewhere, as well as directing focus to places where verification can be found, or where it should be found if it exists. To disregard the expertise and possible printed verification of known historians in the field, and noted publishers of trade journals, on the merits that they've met me, doesn't strike me as being fair. Had for example David Berglas said that aladin was a good performer who keeps to himself - that statement would not be suited for inclusion, but it would have been a good hint that it was worth the effort to find more sources. And the input of his son Marvin Berglas (head of the toy company "Marvin's Magic" ), who makes a lot of effort on finding and hiring young and deserving magicians in England - his opinion might also reveal whether it's possible to find proper verification or not.
I don't take questions like this lightly. Yesterday I searched through 9 volumes of Genii magazine (international trade magazine, 12 issues/volume) but not a single mention of aladin. I also went through Opus magazine (known british trade magazine) from 1994-1995, which is equally void of aladin's name. So far I've just flicked through the pages of Magic magazine, but I'm at this point quite certain that there will be no mention of his name there either. I was the editor of Tricks magazine in scandinavia until 1994-95, and continued with the magazine "Dr. Faustus Journal" in 1995, and got reports from all over the world. I've checked my old files, but nothing there either. There is the claim that aladin introduced Lennart Green to Ricky Jay, which is untrue. But the only places in England where both Green and Ricky Jay can have met is the McMillan convention in early 90's or possibly the Blackpool convention. I can check which year and ask Martin McMillan to check the list of registrated participants from those years, to see if it's likely that aladin has been even close to them - but as always, it's hard to prove a negative. Would the absense of aladins name from the list of participants at a convention be considered valid verification of a negative?
I'm also sorry that you believe it insulting to suffer from mythomania, but that should be considered an alert rather than an attack. I'm unfortunately familiar with it, as I lived two years with a girl who suffered from the combination Borderline personality disorder and mythomania, before I understood that something was wrong, and since then I've studied DSM-IV so hard I can quote it in my sleep. And I don't put moral values on the affliction, as I've seen the pain it causes. There are patterns that are easy to recognize for anyone with either education or personal knowledge. That is also not fit for an encyclopedia, but it should be an alert to people gathering verification that all facts has to be checked and re-checked, even down to the date of birth. That I possess a large knowledge of the field, have friends who are noted authorites and historians, and that I've got personal experience that enables me to recognize an illness shouldn't really be held against me, unless it seems likely that I use my knowledge to cause harm (check my previous edits). To avoid further misunderstandings, I will refrain from posting, researching or even visit that topic again, as I find it quite troublesome to be suspected of bad will. You are welcome to delete anything I've written there (consider that an official permission). And finally, I'm sorry that our first meeting had to be in this shape -- TStone 10:27, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
My apologies for calling you a vandal. Maybe you could apologize to the people you called vandals for removing spam from California State Polytechnic University, Pomona.-- Curtis Clark 15:24, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks JJay. Out of curiosity, where did you get 1903 and trojans? -- Dystopos 02:39, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
I see you undid the move -- while I was posting an explanation of the situation, i might add. I also see that you did NOT move the archived talk pages, so tht those links are now broken. If you are going to undo page moves, please undo them throughly. I would like to ask you please NOT to do any more page moves on this topic, except to finish the one you did by moving the archived pages, until there is agreement. i am making the same request of Elonka and others involved. Please read my commetns on the talk page. Thank you. DES (talk) 17:43, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
JJay, I give you my word, I did not "immediately move the page in response" to your post. They happened around the same time. You've done enough editing on the Wikipedia to know how time can pass... You edit a page, enter in information, preview it, save, and then find out that something else changed while you were in the edit screen. ;) I promise you, it was an accident. I'd already seen your earlier comments [29] where it appeared that you didn't care what the page title was, and I was unaware that you had changed your mind. Please accept my apology and assume good faith? I'm willing to gather a new consensus, to keep everyone happy. Elonka 18:22, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
In this section of the discussion on Aaron's RfA you say "The comments from freakofnurture, Johnleemk and Lar are mischaracterization and deeply insulting". I'm not sure what comment of mine you were referring to, but it was not my intent to insult you or anyone else. If you can let me know which comment you meant, and how it was a mischaracterisation I will redact it immediately. In any case let me assure you no insult was intended, and further, I sincerely apologise for any insult you perceived. ++ Lar: t/ c 17:01, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
I've left a message on the talk page about a title--you may be interested. Thanks. Chick Bowen 17:57, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Please do not keep undoing other people's edits without discussing them first. This is considered impolite and unproductive. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert an article to a previous version more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you. Ardenn 21:49, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
You are in danger of violating the three-revert rule. Please cease further reverts or you may be blocked from further editing. Ardenn 22:03, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Thank you Hello JJay, and thank you for your support in my request for adminship! It passed with a final count of 63/4/3. I am honoured by the community support and pledge to serve the project as best as I can. CanadianCaesar The Republic Restored 17:05, 12 February 2006 (UTC) |
Hi I noticed we share a similiar POV on the Whidden Hall article. It seems that Friday and Jonel would do anything to de-value the page and lets not forget Ardenn. I just noticed Jonel has once again re-directed the page back to the McMaster page before it was even discussed. Is there anything to stop this kind of behaviour? Btw, are you an admin? or shall we bring an admin to solve this simple issue which somehow escalated into something so fustrating and complicated. 24.57.131.18 04:14, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the help with the Golden State League article. I never thought putting it up for AfD would get it cleaned up so quickly, or at all. When I first saw it, it was in such a bad state that I didn't think it could be rescued. And then it came back to life! Just one quick question: where did you get that book reference? Did you just happen to have that book lying around?? Carcharoth 07:21, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
It would be better for everyone involved if you'd use the talk page just to discuss changes to the article, and not as a place for complaining about other editors. I think everyone involved is trying to improve the encyclopedia, we just don't always agree on what's an improvement. A little bit of "assume good faith" goes a long way. Friday (talk) 15:05, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
PROD was removed once by someone who later changed their mind, and no longer objects, and was removed a second time by a new user in their first edit. I think it's safe to say those are not "obvious objections". Particularly since in neither case did anyone actually state a reason for taking the tag off, without which the process can't work.
Hi there. I recently came across this article, Project_Quicksilver, and noted some concerns on the talk page. I was wondering what the best way is to proceed from here? Is there a non-encyclopedic POV tag that can be slapped on an article? Is there a convention that it is OK to talk at length from the POV of a fictional world? Sorry to ask you these questions. Is there somewhere that summarises the different ways to critique an article, and how to draw attention to them (if you are uncertain how to correct a possible problem yourself)? Carcharoth 11:14, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Hi Jjay. You contributed to the (withdrawn) AfD on Olivia Cenizal - thought you may (or may not) appreciate the heads up.
I've put a list of all the stubs I originally tried to batch nominate here, and I'll go through them systematically.
As you are clearly someone who feels very strongly about articles being deleted, particularly if they are non-Western, I thought I would let you know that I don't plan to AfD any of these now, at first. I will tag them for proposed deletion, giving any contributors five days to fix the articles up to assert notability and find suitable verification. I have started to go through them myself. Any I can find an IMDB page for, or any other reasonable sources, I am instead tagging for cleanup. I am sorry if my original method to try and clear these stubs up did not sit well with you. All the best, Proto|| type 14:19, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Why are you accusing me of stalking you on various talk pages? What can we do to resolve this conflict? I've tried to "bury the hatchet" as they say, but it didn't seem to work. I'm sorry for whatever offense I have caused you. Is it possible to start over? Also, fyi, I was going to email you instead as your talk page instructions indicate, but it says you can't be emailed. Friday (talk) 23:12, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
[41]: you changed from 1889 to 1880. I'm guessing you are right, but could you please provide a citation? - Jmabel | Talk 03:31, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Nice one JJ, always fun to lock horns. Seriously, who do you expect to establish the notability of an article - editors who vote to delete and have no knowledge of the subject matter, or editors who vote to keep and claim the subject is frequently in the news? Instead of putting the links on the AfD page, why not actually edit the article and put them there? I'm an editor first and a deletionist second, you sometimes seem to be an inclusionist first and an editor second. I'm not saying that everyone who votes to keep an article is obliged to improve it but in some cases - and I believe this is one - you just have to put your money where your mouth is and worry about the article rather than the AfD banter. I don't want to see this deleted if it is notable, but if it is notable I want the article to reflect that. Much love as always Deizio 22:51, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Well, having now compared our edits for one day (i.e. March 6), it looks like you weren't doing any serious editing until you suddenly got motivated with the Hmong stuff. Prior to that you were mostly participating in AfD. I had already created one article on a High school and added content or references to various other articles. Therefore, rather than complaining about it, you should thank me for allowing you to state truthfully that you are an "editor first and a deletionist second". Also, if you intend to continue, I'd be happy to send you any of the articles from the link I provided.
Otherwise, the driving force for me in AfD is participation. I believe the only way that article quality, and by extension wikipedia, can improve is through massive participation. Every deletion drives editors away who care/cared about the material being deleted. If something is verifiable it is good enough for me. Notability is meaningless. What is really "notable" to me would interest very few people. What is notable for you is probably not notable to me. The quality of the article doesn't matter to me either. Since I view this as a very long-term process that should continue well beyond my lifespan, the actual state of an article at a given moment in time is completely unimportant. Now I don't object to people who have a different point of view on this. What I do object to are derogatory comments such as those you made initially. Lastly, regarding your point about "editors who vote to delete and have no knowledge of the subject matter"- I don't believe anyone should participate on AfD if they have no knowledge of the subject matter. Keep, Delete, merge: expressing an opinion without doing your homework is a very dangerous game.-- JJay 01:45, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Man, I can't believe that I'm having edit conflicts on this page despite the warning. Despite that, that point that you and others like to quote from WP:V just makes me laugh because it's taken so wildly out of context. I also don't believe games need rules, and "notability" is not the rule here for me. Finally, regarding your new comment, you should know I always do research before voting on AfD. I always google the topic. I always check our other coverage. I always check the topic on Newsbank and other databases. What I choose to do after that is up to me. -- JJay 01:53, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Ok fine. Nice sarcasm at the end but that's cool. I have to admit that I don't remember talking to you about a school article, but it must be my advanced years. You are right that a one day comparison is not fair. Any more comparison though would have bored me to tears. -- JJay 02:13, 7 March 2006 (UTC) PS. Not sure if I mentioned it above, but I liked what you did with the two AfD articles. I would change my votes to merge except that could create problems down the road if someone wants to expand one of the articles to the point where it needs to be demerged. -- JJay 02:15, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Hello! Thank you for taking the time to vote for me in my recent request for adminship It ended successfully with a final score of (40/10/5). I value all of the contributions made during the process and I will take a special note of the constructive criticism regarding interacting with users in the user talk space. If you have questions or requests, please leave a message. (aeropagitica) 17:26, 7 March 2006 (UTC) |
Hi, JJay. Could I ask that if you state an article is verifiable, please could you provide a reference (it doesn't need to be an online reference) to back this up? It would make assessing the validity of an article on AfD a lot easier. Proto|| type 11:57, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Please see my response to your unsubstantiated personal attacks against me in this deletion debate. I have repeatedly argued that the general concept of fuck truck is notable while a specific college shuttle is not. At the worst, my feelings that this is true have become stronger and, admittedly, I have become less willing compromise and name the article after this one shuttle. I have made a fairly large number of good faith edits. My intention is not to make a joke (see the explanation of what I am up to on my user page). I would appreciate an apology for your efforts to defame me and my good faith actions. Interestingstuffadder 00:23, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi JJay. I've just been reviewing my involvement in articles for deletion and I stopped at this one. I don't believe consensus was reached and may have changed my vote given more discussion. I'f you'd like to request debate is reopened or WP:DRV I would support that. Not that it will change anything in the long run, but it might. Peace. ॐ Metta Bubble puff 10:09, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
Dear JJay,
You're being harsh. My intention was to draw attention to the important message - it's a certain no-consensus, and I wanted to make sure the admin didn't gloss over it. I won't go and revert it - but regardless, you've been mean. It's not nice to be mean. -
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JJay,
We're drafting the document, and will eventually post it for people to comment on. Because you were so vocal in the Riverbend Mall debate, I am inviting you to join in our deliberations. Feel free to tweak the text and/or add comments.
Regards,
the.crazy.russian
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I tried proposing it several times. However, many people (or some) object the idea of having it deleted after 5 days by letting admistration board notifying it.
I created that page because I assumed there could be more than two different definitions. However, I did not appreciate that kind because that was all I researched.
Why should not it be deleted? Should I or someone put it under debate of making it deleted? Why or why not? — 69.27.173.21 20:28, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
JJay - I'd suggest that your commments here: "designed to intimidate," "distorted summaries," "Yeah, whatever," were outside the bounds of civility. - brenneman {L} 03:06, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
Email me if you really want to talk about that, or I'll email you. I will say that while your many posts here on the topic have convinced me of your good faith (which was rather difficult to assume at first), your justification is a bit harder to swallow. -- JJay 12:07, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
Had you taken the time to review Transnational Association of Christian Colleges and Schools you would have noticed that 1) I created the page 2) a suspect sock puppet of a banned user added links to pages that did not have articles. I removed those links and thus the fork that is up for AfD was created. I removed the links added a speedy tag and a AfD tag. Don't assume bad faith without reviewing the full situation. Instead you listened to possible two meat puppets of the suspected sock that has a off wikipedia webpage that aims to put Christianity at wikipedia. You can read the full discloser at Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Jason_Gastrich. Arbusto 01:11, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
JJay, thank you for your constructive opposition in
my recent RfA. Although it did not succeed as no consensus was declared (final: 65/29/7), I know that there is always an opportunity to request adminship again. In the meantime, I will do my best to address your concerns in the hope that when the opportunity for adminship arises once again, you will reconsider your position. If at any time I make any mistakes or if you would like to comment on my contributions to Wikipedia, you are more than
welcome to do so. Regardless of your religious, cultural, and personal beliefs, I pray that whatever and whoever motivates you in life continues to guide you on the most righteous path.
--- joturner 05:29, 1 April 2006 (UTC) |
Why are you following every single page I edit and add? You have added nothing to the articles. Arbusto 00:59, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
Regarding your comment, it is standard practice to only link once in an article as per Wikipedia:Only make links that are relevant to the context. There is thus no need to list terms under "see also" that have already been linked in the article body. As to the ABBC page, I reviewed their website and they do not refer to themselves as "fundamentalist". They refer to themselves as Baptist. Since no other source was provided for the article, I replaced "fundamentalist" with "Baptist". I would remind you that it is not for us to make judgements, bur rather to report data based on WP:RS. If you have a source that calls ABBC "fundamentalist" then please correct my "mistake". Otherwise, I would ask that you adjust your tone here and try to refrain from POV when editing. Cheers. -- JJay 01:34, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
Regarding your comment on the Jackson vote [51], I have no idea how you can construe what I've said as a "personal attack." If you consider your own experience of hearing Jackson's story as being "the human face of the Katrina tragedy for millions," okay, more power to you. Disagreeing and pointing out that your statement is strongly point-of-view rather than an actual statement of fact is not an attack.
"I would ask that you adjust your tone here and try to refrain from POV when editing." Your own words, right above this section. Please don't take the AfD so personally. Tijuana Brass 04:36, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
I took a look at the diff you cited in your opposing comment on RGTraynor's now withdrawn RFA. Although I neither supported nor opposed him, I think your comment was a little strong. If you read not only the article being AfD'd but also who the author was (and read the author's article on his own professional wrestling career), you would see that calling that article "vanity" was not much of a stretch. -- DS1953 talk 19:43, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
You re-inserted "researcher" - I would say that is problematic. A career total of under 30 published papers is well below the level normally expected of an active academic researcher in these fields. A hundred or more would be much closer to the mark. Here's the list for a friend of mine (with no Wikipedia article that I know of): [54] - this guy is around 40 and still publishing actively. I'm not going to remove the word, but I don't tink it is necessarily accurate or neutral in context. Just zis Guy you know? 22:45, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
This is the only time I will ask you before seeking admin help to remove what I have written on your talk page, as you have changed my original wording. You may also restore them to their original form. You may not represent what I, or any other editor, has said by editing things into talk pages. Tijuana Brass 02:56, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Do you know or are you/ever have been in contact with Jason Gastrich, wiki4christ, or any connection no matter how loose? Thanks. Arbusto 03:47, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
Is your name Javert or Spitzer, please clarify, yes or no? We've seen these types of thought police mindgames before. We also refuse to be indoctrinated into whatever DoublePlusUnGood you are pushing. Wikipedia is not the the right place for that. Accusations have their forums. Articles have their talk pages. If you feel the need, use them. Otherwise, the committee has enormous patience in the face of nonsensical queries. Big brother is watching. -- JJay 19:39, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
-- JJay 01:42, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar | ||
JJay, this barnstar is for going above and beyond the call of duty in the Dominionist political parties debate. GUÐSÞEGN – U T E X – 05:07, 18 April 2006 (UTC) |
[56] + [57] + [58] = irony. That was cute of you. There's no prohibition on hipocrisy at Wikipedia. But there are rules on personal attacks and causing disruption, and a number of your comments both here and at WP:AN/I cross those lines. You need to stop trolling others and find a more constructive way to contribute to the project. FeloniousMonk 06:00, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
This was a borderline close and currently doesn't have the numbers to be re-opened, but since I don't believe in voting anyway I'm dropping you a line. You were a bit brief in your rational at the AfD and regardless of where you do it (at DrV or AfD if I re-open it) it would be more convincing if you expounded. - brenneman {L} 05:03, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Hey JJay,
Did my e-mail ever get through?
See ya,
Primetime 05:08, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
I have opened a Request for Comment on User:Woggly due to harassment which is clearly evidenced by her in a harassment campaign that she has organized on her talk page User:Woggly 4 On this page one can witness how accusations of using sockpuppets were never confirmed before she accused me of these actions and others. JJay - can you please provide advice on this matter through e-mail. Thanks, IsraelBeach 01:20, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for pointing that out. I knew that I had done that occasionally but I didn't realize until you pointed it out how often I've reverted to unsourced material like that. I definitely need to work on that. Again, thanks. JoshuaZ 16:49, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
I just thought I'd link The Game (game) here on the off chance :-D Just zis Guy you know? 20:09, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Hey, I just wanted to thank you for what you said under the strong throw out altogether section. You got a chuckle out of me. I am pretty new at Wikipedia but am being watched like a hawk. I need all the help I can get at this point. I've been harassed, lied to, insulted, lawyerized in debate and blocked four times since I joined on 3/22/06. All I want to do is bring neutrality back into Wiki articles. At the bottom of my page is a warning left by SlimVirgin. Can you help me please? Maggie thewolfstar 05:36, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi, My RfA passed. I'd like to again thank you for your constructive criticism in my RfA and assure you that I will work on the issues you brought up. JoshuaZ 14:28, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
Hey JJay –
You opposed my last RfA in March on rationale I believe may have been related to my user page. In the time since then, I have changed my page to be more universalist (which still conforms with my personal beliefs) and removed the majority of information regarding my conversion to Islam in favor of a section on my philosophy (as well as yours if you desire). Now, I'm looking for your feedback on what you think of the redesign of the page and whether it is sufficient in quelling the March controversy over the page as well as solving the issue about possible inability to maintain a neutral point of view, especially in religion-related articles. For what it's worth, the reason I kept a condensed version of the timeline was because there were, and still are, many people who find it interesting instead of a form of proselytization. Many people have also given me positive feedback on my talk page regarding the look of the page. I personally believe that it is okay to insert individuality onto user pages, especially if it still promotes a sense of community. That is what I was going for with this current version of my user page.
Please make comments regarding the user page on my editor review page. Thanks in advance. joturn e r 15:06, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
JJay, give me a shout if anything I do with the mop concerns you. We may not see eye to eye on everything but I respect you and your opinion. Nice one, Deizio talk 23:41, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
JJay, I feel , like some others who voted for keeping this article on WP , that the admins were biased. So since there is a wkikipedia fork which allows sympathetic point of view could be the place to keep this article. I don't feel this article should die and it deserves to be here at WP more than many articles we have here. But probably for some time , the best option we have for keeping this article alive is by taking it to another encyplaediac project. I hope you reply back to me about it because we both feel trhe same way about this article.
Unitedroad 09:48, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
You might want to bring some of your references to Men's fashion freedom. I think the subject can be encyclopaedically covered there - while there is no real evidence of independent usage outside this small movement, it is undoubtedly a part of that movement, as evidence the small number of highly passionate advocates seen defending the term. Just zis Guy you know? 09:46, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
I was somewhat concerned with what's going on, so I did something utterly unprecedented: I actually just went and asked the nominator. :-)
It turns out that the string of nominations is simply a category sweep, where you check all the articles in a catagory, and nominate the more wonky ones on AFD.
Some other time someone might do a sweep of all software related articles, or of sailing articles or school articles.
PZFUN typically hangs out writing featured articles, and he thought he'd make himself useful as an Admin for a bit as well. Little did he know ...
Note that many of the nominated articles *do* need a cleanup, even if they're kept. Else sooner or later someone else will come along and nominate them again, as per wikipedia content policy.
Would you care to amend your comments on Articles for Deletion, now that you know this?
Kim Bruning 00:39, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Israeli_apartheid_%28phrase%29
You seem to be well informed on the subject, and would be very welcome in the discussion on Wikipedia talk:Notability (pornographic actors). You are quite right that it is not a guideline or policy yet, but in theory, neither is Wikipedia:Notability, yet that is the main reason for deletion on AFD. With enough work, WP:PORN BIO will be a good guideline, rather than a bad one. AnonEMouse (squeak) 16:43, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
You said you thought the article about legal precedent and professional misconduct useful. The author of the article has taken it to mediation - not hte article, just this paragraph, because why? The author was a student of this surgeon, and wants to burnish his reputation. He does not want a biography. Instead, he wants a hagiography. PLease come discuss at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2006-06-08_G._Patrick_Maxwell
This is most telling. The author wants nothing that hints of a true biography of this man. MollyBloom 20:58, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
LOL! If needed, checkuser will demonstrate I'm no one's sockpuppet, sockpuppeteer or proxy. Disruption has its boundaries, no matter the user. Radio Kirk talk to me 03:56, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
For the moment I'll completely ignore the numerous complaints about you on your talk page, because they simply aren't relavent to what goes on between the two of us, even if the theme may be the same. Basically, I want you to chill out and let me do my thing until it impinges on your freedoms or rights. I've noticed that you get pretty excited over AfD's, often over AfD's for articles of extremely questionable worth. Sometimes, you say how "excellently written" they are, necessitating me to check the writing of the article, only to find that the writing is very poor. Maybe you have low standards. Maybe you write like those film critics who praise every b-movie they see to the skies! I don't know, but I'd like to know why you do things like mockingly pointing out that I used the word "worthless.?" Of course I did, and I put it in my nom. "Worthless" to me doesn't mean nearly the same as it does to you, apparently, and you don't seem to have any respect for the way I use words, which, by the way, is perfectly grammatical and in line with Wikipedia's PC polices. So, I get pissed off when you pick on my language. Most people probably do. I suggest you stop it as far as I'm concerned. If you want to take part in AfD's that I nominate, go ahead, it's your right, but please, hold back your impulse to bark orders or tell others how things ought to be done. You've already made my experience here less enjoyable, and I'd really rather never hear from you again. If you snark at me in a debate again, I really should take some action. It would be the honorable thing to do. I follow the Golden Rule, and I hope you do to. Please take what I've said seriously, because I'd hate for things to escalate. Also, I'd really appreciate it if you'd quit following my contributions around. I don't want to have to get another login name just to evade you. Erik the Rude 23:53, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
Editors such as Maxwell Perkins are considered writers, not publishers. ( Category:Print editors is a great-grandchild of Category:Writers.) If he were a publisher he would have owned Charles Scribner's Sons, which as far as I can tell from the stub, he did not. Editors should soon have a stub type of their very own, Both {{ editor-stub}} and {{ US-editor-stub}} have been proposed and barring the unexpected, will be created sometime after the 7-day waiting period finishes. Until then, editors belong among the writers. Caerwine Caerwhine 03:14, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
I know what POV is, but what the heck's a "POV fork"? And more importantly, is it any good for eating peas more than 1 at a time? -- Dweller 23:12, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Please assume good faith when dealing with other editors. See Wikipedia:Assume good faith for the guidelines on this. — Mike • 11:31, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Hehe... went looking all the way to January, I see? Cute... - CrazyRussian talk/ email 19:39, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
When you added back in these links, you may have missed the existing http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk:Nude_beach&diff=61818990&oldid=45452511 thread I made on the talk page to discuss it. I also note that you http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Nude_beach&limit=500&action=history only contribution to this article has been to add in those links. Can I ask that you take part discussion on the talk page, please? - Aaron Brenneman 12:15, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Thank you, JJ, for giving of your time to take part in my RfA. While I am happy that wikipedia as a whole reached a consensus to allow me to perform administrative tasks, I will keep in mind everything I have learned through the process, of which you were a part. Please feel free to provide constructive criticism. Although, I must say that for someone who disapproves of essays, you did see fit to improve WP:WING 8-) -- Avi 03:45, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Greetings, I see that you have added to the list Writers of German-language philosophy in the recent past. I have called for a renaming of the related category (German philosophers), and want to invite you to join discussion. The more rational voices, the better. (My suggestion is to rename to "German-language philosophers," so that the category becomes one of language rather than ethnicity.) Thanks in advance for any thoughts you might have. Universitytruth 13:56, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Ok, so neither of my links work. Still a newbie, I'm afraid. Anyway, I hope you'll know what I'm talking about! Universitytruth 14:00, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
To keep it short, non-admins are not permitted to remove speedy delete notices. If you disagree with my actions, throw a {{ hangon}} template on the page and put your reasoning in the talk page — the admin reviewing my speedy-delete notice catches it that way, especially when alerted by the {{ hangon}} template. But flat-out removing speedy-delete notices is actually considered vandalism. -- User:WCityMike 02:43, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Though Afshar's work is still the subject of ongoing interpretation and discussion, a significant portion of the scientific community is of the opinion that Afshar's experiment does not refute complementarity.
Some general criticisms are:
As Michael claims, those statments are supposedly "popular views" that preexisted my experiment, and as such must be present in peer-reviewed publication predating my work. All I have asked him to do is to provide such valid ref.s but he has persistently avoided doing so and instead engaged in personal attacks. He seems to have a lot of time on his hands to be on Wikipeida constatntly, but I don't. This is turning to oneupmanship, and I don't have time for such antcis. Maybe he would heed your request. Thanks!-- Prof. Afshar 13:51, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. I don't know what he imagines he's playing at removing these common words, but it's nice to see someone else doing excellent work on this. -- Tony Sidaway
I'd direct (both of) your attention to the big bold letters in one of our core policies:
1. Articles should contain only material that has been published by reputable sources.
2. Editors adding new material to an article should cite a reputable source, or it may be removed by any editor.
3. The obligation to provide a reputable source lies with the editors wishing to include the material, not on those seeking to remove it.
If you think that this should be changed as "pedantry," take it up on Wikipedia_talk:Verifiability. What I utterly fail to understand is why anyone would, to use the "Freebord" example cited, add a dozen odd references to the AfD while adding nothing to the article, or to use the List of sexual slurs example argue over (and re-add) terms rather than finding and adding sources. If these terms are so common, so widely used, surely the path of least resistance would be to follow the policy as written? User:Aaron Brenneman 06:13, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Since you seem to be more interested in character assassination than the truth, I'll point out the following:
On the other hand, you have removed numerous sourced entries from the list. You have challenged the validity of the sourcing. You have never added any references to the list. Your approach has been continuously obstructionist. You are thus in no position to lecture anyone about sources, nor to imply - in any way, shape or form - that I am opposed to sourcing. The next time you want to make bogus accusations of that sort, do it in a public forum and back it up with diffs.
Regarding your AfD diffs and the nonsense about my "intense argumentative nature":
I'm not sure what point you are trying to make with your personal edit diffs. That you know how to write 3-line stubs??? Is that supposed to impress me?? When you start producing this sort of response- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/West 4th Street (Greenwich Village) and producing this sort of diff [81], I will be the first to applaud. In the meantime stop wasting my time. -- JJay 15:42, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Greetings; if you would visit the call for discussion at this page, I'd be grateful for your input. Thanks! Talk:List_of_German-language_philosophers Best, Universitytruth 13:13, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
So why not share? - BalthCat 19:29, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Hey JJay,
I'm borrowing your warning template to put on my talk page if you don't mind. Thanks. YCCHAN 03:50, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
You haven't been your old nasty flame-baiting self for the past few days. I'm glad to see that. I congratulate you for the improvement, and I hope it continues so that an RfC on your behavior will not be necessary. I'd be happy to open one. That template on the top of this talk page is funny when I consider how many people you have wikistalked yourself. Obvious hypocrisy is such an ugly character defect. Maybe you've been making use of the rolling papers recently? Whatever it is, keep it up. Erik the Rude 12:47, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
And I'd strongly encourage you not to provoke me or continue to be uncivil, or things could really get much worse for you. I will use the tools available to me to make your Wikipedia life as miserable as possible to change your behavior for the better. You reap what you sow. You are treated as you treat others. Bullying should not be tolerated. My account isn't a sock puppet account. It's a new account I created to make a fresh start. I admit I made some newbie mistakes in the past, but I'm older and wiser now. I do productive work and try to stay away from AfD unless there's no choice. You think that email I sent you was threatening? It was nothing. If you want to be a baby about it, call the police. Since you probably don't live in the State of West Virginia, they would tell you that there is simply nothing that they can do. If you lived in W.Va. you might have a case for a restraining order or a civil action. Trust me, I know the all the ins and outs of what legally constitutes a threat, and what I said doesn't qualify in any American jurisdiction. Apparently, you need a little legal education. I've indicated no intention to harm you physically, I have no idea where you live, and I'm not going to track you down and come find you. Let me make myself perfectly clear. YOUR BEHAVIOR IS UNACCEPTABLE. I will keep telling you that until I can get you to accept it. I won't personally attack you on WP, and I'll be as civil as I can. I don't even know you personally, but if I did, I suspect I could help you out. I'll even be polite. I look forward to your progress from agitator to good contributor. I look forward to you spending less than half your time in AfD. If you have problems with anger, try my suggestion and talk to a therapist. Hell, you can even talk to me. I'll listen. I can advise you in making more appropriate responses. Remember, I'm here for you, JJay. Nemo me impune lacessit. Erik the Rude 19:00, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
This is typical of your behavior, digging up dirt on your opponents rather than trying any kind of change. You'll do anything than address the topic at hand, the fact that you have maladaptive behavior that needs to change and that lots of users have serious problems with you on a constant basis. You wasted your time typing in all those diffs, everyone has seen them. I did my time for the incivility. Also, I'm rather proud of some of those as flames. They remind me of my glory days in USENET. I was on pills and booze at the time -- Lortab and strong beer, a bad combination. What exactly is your excuse for what you do? Do you drink and edit too? Do we need a support group for our kind? Do tell! Like I said, JJay, you have problems. We're going to get them sorted out so that you don't piss people off. If you don't like that, that's too bad, because I have a cause of action here, and I resent being consistently ignored by you. You dig up stuff that doesn't even matter and you say things that have no meaning. Why won't you be honest and real? Erik the Rude 00:37, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi, you recently voted to keeep the article Macarthur Square. Could you please suggest something that could be added to the article to make it notable compared to all the other articles for shopping malls on Wikipedia? I ask this because I cannot see what makes one shopping centre notable compared to the one in the next suburb. Not every house has an article, why should every shopping centre? Thanks, I hope to implement some of your suggestions. I am happy to conduct a reasonable amount of web-based investigation to implement some of your thoughts. BTW - please if you want me to email you instead, be more upfront about how to do it. -- Ga rr ie 06:00, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Your comments here that I'm "biased," "pretending" in my explenations, and discussion with me are "an exercise in futility" are at the very least incivil. I also note that at the DRv you've stated twice that I used the word "sockpuppet." This is simply inaccurate. User:Aaron Brenneman 12:16, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
I've made a proposal here, and am seeking feedback. Best,-- Anthony Krupp 14:00, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
I have a soft place in my heart for school articles, and I have tried to temper my inclusionist tendencies on the issue with concise explanations of why I think school articles should be retained. I have long been baffled by the opinion that a notable graduate confers notability on a school, as if the school had anything to do with it in almost all cases and as if the school has an obligation to churn out individuals who will meet Wikipedia's standards of notability. While I thought I had honed my cynicism on the issue in some of my Keep votes, I must bow down and prostrate myself before your majestic take on the subject in the abovementioned AfD. Down with School Deletionism! After all, even Deletionists went to school somewhere (and if they didn't, that explains a great deal). Bravo! Alansohn 03:35, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert a single page more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you. ST47 Talk 21:29, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
Shadowing my AfD participation is not very nice. [86], [87]., [88], [89]. Taking it to the next level by entering an edit war on an article you have never edited based on my participation is out of line [90] and serves just to inflame the situation. Stalking is not very becoming. Please tone down the insults as well. [91]. -- JJay 23:12, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
You reasoning is inconsistent in an effort to vote keep in two of my afds.
Regarding Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of ...for Dummies books (2 nomination), (this is a copy and pasted list) you wrote keep [99], but in an effort to keep an unnotable diploma mill you said [100]"However, copying diploma mill names from government websites in order to construct a pseudo-official diploma mill list at wikipedia... It violates both the meaning and spirit of the list guidelines."
Stop using the afd to STALK and make a POINT. Arbusto 02:14, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
I've reviewed your contribution history, both in the articles noted above and elsewhere. I'm of the opinion that your use of the revert is tantamount to disruption, as well as your style of contribution to deletion discussions being problematic. This can be handled lots of ways, in my order of preferance:
Dispute resolution (like mediation) probably isn't appropiate, since I don't actually have a dispute with you. However, I do intend to pursue this.
User talk:Aaron Brenneman 02:18, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
I have opened an Arcom case: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration. Arbusto 17:38, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
Some of the articles nominated by the sock were in fact deleted. You may want to consider DRVing them. Incidentally, process-wise this will presumably also overturn those which ended as keeps and thus they will not count for consensus in that regard. JoshuaZ 22:30, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
JJay, recognizing that you may not read this (per your comment at the top of the page), I'd still like to ask: would you mind weighing in on the deletion review for XPLANE at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2006 November 24? I believe your voice is important to this review and your comments/opinions are much appreciated. Dgray xplane 15:47, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I was in the process of editing this article when you deleted it. There are lots of reasons why this is not a valid prod, including the previous AFD for its 2000 counterpart and the stated reason of OR, which is belied by scholarly research on the topic. My edit recreated the article( unfortunately without the history). -- JJay 14:50, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
I agree with you that signatures that take a large amount of space in the wiki markup language or the final rendering are disruptive. This encyclopedia is less about it's generous contributors than it is about it's final goal of a free encyclopedia for all the world. HighInBC (Need help? Ask me) 02:23, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
You have been temporarily blocked for violating WP:3RR on Wikipedia:External links; see WP:AN/3RR. When you return, please work out edit conflicts on the article Talk: page. FeloniousMonk 00:30, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for voting in my RfA, I passed. I appreciate your input. Please keep an eye on me(if you want) to see if a screw up. HighInBC (Need help? Ask me) 15:54, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Commenting here, since as I mentioned I don't feel it's appropriate to continue at that venue.
You wrote: A contribution history dating back ten edits is not a real contribution history. I have a right to have an idea who is nominating articles for deletion based on their history - that is explicit in policy. I'm alleging violation of policy (bad faith is irrelevant) and as to double voting, a sock nomination automatically raises the suspicion. How could it not? Furthermore, Wikipedia:Deletion policy mandates discounting sock puppet "votes" in deletion discussions. Why should it be different for nominators? I am not aware who is behind the account - the user in question has declined to respond to messages on his talk page - and am not particulalry concerned with abuse. I am concerned with what I view as an invalid nomination by a new account.
Again I ask whether you have any evidence that the nomination is invalid or that the account is not a legitimate sock. Failing to assume good faith is not irrelevant when you proceed to declare a user suspect of double voting, vandalism, circumventing blocks, and breaking policy. It's irresponsible at best to make such statements without anything but a hunch to go on. The administration may ignore his !vote, but there's nothing I can see against bringing an article for deletion in that manner. If a double vote actually occurred, then that would be in violation of policy, but I don't think it's reasonable to assume that that's happened without any actual investigation into the matter.
I note also that you've made no such allegations about Highfructosecornsyrup, even though his account is only a week old and his contributions are limited to school articles and AfDs. I choose to assume good faith on his part, in the absence of evidence -- and in the same vein I'll assume you simply overlooked him. I admit to some curiosity, though, about your thoughts.
Anyway, while recognizing that there's reason for concern (the choice of username does not inspire confidence, and abusive sockpuppetry does make a mess of the situation), I still feel we should assume good faith in the absence of any concrete reason to do otherwise -- it's policy, but more importantly, it's the right thing to do. Although P.S. seems pretty clearly to be a sock, and is used specifically for this purpose, I haven't seen any reason to believe that the editor behind the account isn't attempting in good faith to improve the encyclopedia. I realize that there are people who take attempted deletion of articles personally (and there are people who take failed deletion attempts personally), but I don't think it serves any purpose to do so. Most articles are not nominated for deletion out of malice, and most keep !votes are not out of spite. I think we should assume that to be the case even for new accounts such as P.S. and HFCS, until we've got reason to believe otherwise. That's all I'm trying to get at.
(In that vein, I apologize for the sniping about ad hoinem arguments in my last reply. It might've been true, after a fashion, but it was glib and not helpful to the discussion.) Shimeru 09:15, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
I meant "stronger" as in the previous criteria (time here,activity level), not who has more power. I hope you did not interpret it as meaning "power". Voice-of-All 04:42, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Re your comments on the deletion review of the Starfleet alternate ranks and insignia article.
A line from my original comment in the DRV:
Your version of it:
I could now feel entirely justified in ignoring everything you contribute to a discussion, ever again, as you and the truth clearly have nothing more than a passing acquaintance. I won't, but come on, you have more sense than this. Nobody will pay attention to you if you continue act like this.
Even better is that you then complain about people misrepresenting your words. The hypocrisy of this is marvellous, and JJay, I salute you. Proto:: ► 10:08, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Hey, JJay! I didn't deliberately move your comment on the Michael Richards page. Another editor had inserted a comment in the middle of my comments. I was just moving his response to the bottom of my statements. I hadn't noticed that your edit came before his. Sorry for any misunderstanding. Cleo123 06:10, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi there! You said that "many users claim this page is inaccurate". Could you please point out a single user who makes this claim, and/or a single inaccuracy in this page? Because on the talk page, there is indication of neither. Rather, the dispute is about the "guideline" tag. User:Radiant 17:38, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
That wasn't so hard, was it? - brenneman 23:02, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm really annoyed.
After I and you and many others worked hard to make this article truly excellent and indeed an exemplar list on wikipedia, the same people that tried to get the previous list deleted come along a pull a scam like this.
I don't know if the deletion was marked at the top of the page, but I check the article from time to time and didn't notice it. They picket the holiday season when no one was looking, lost the vote, deleted anyhow using the same argument that was explicitly rejected by the community now and before. They gave no notice to the people who were watching the article. Doc Glasgow had previously been involved in the article and should have recused himself anyway. Hundreds of hours of people's time have been deleted on the whim of a admin with in axe to grind.
Carefully worked out criteria, methods of discussion, 120 references, dozens of articles linking in, a fantastic resource.
Again to refute the silly argument made by some that dictator is an "inherently POV" descriptor, simply search wikipedia for the word dictator and notice how many people are described that way. Britannica, Encarta etc all do so, as do all news outlets.
What can we do?
juicifer 13:48, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Please see I have written to complain about Tom Stone (magician). Jan Antwerpmagic 03:04, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
You keep reverting the proposed template. You seem to be a lone voice disputing this so may I suggest you use the talk page before reverting this again without a discussion. -- Spartaz 22:39, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the consideration you gave to my RfA. To be chosen as an administrator requires a high level of confidence by a broad section of the community. Although I received a great deal of support, at this time I do not hold the level of confidence required, and the RfA did not pass. You were one of the oppose votes, and raised concerns. I am more than willing to discuss those concerns with you if you are interested. Please let me know. Sincerely, -- BostonMA talk 03:29, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Hello, after a revert, you are supposed to leave the page as is and take things to talk, as per WP:1RR, WP:HEC, or WP:BRD (take your pick). You have not read the talk page for WP:TRI, where your concerns were already addressed. You have not responded to email yet (which you had requested in preference to talk page posting), so now I'm posting on your talk page... if you were not yet aware, please do not blindly revert. Always go to talk! (And then stay there until the situation is resolved). Thank you!
-- Kim Bruning 20:06, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Do not give people warnings if you're engaging in the same behavior yourself. Do not threaten people with blocks if you're not an admin. Do not issue condescending templated warnings to regular users. And do not throw stones if you're living in a glass house. Radiant 12:21, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Per my earlier note, I've opened a request for comment. - brenneman 02:30, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
You're a valuable editor. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 07:17, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Just a note, because I didn't want to revert anything before speking to you, that you removed a link to the JREF store on grounds that it was a "commercial bookstore". I wanted to explain that firstly, the link in question was direct to the authors website and thus surely should be allowed to be linked to in the relevant section of the page? And secondly that the JREF is a non commecial not-for-profit organisation. -- Mercifull ( Talk/ Contribs) 13:46, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Greetings JJay, I'm writing to inform you that I've decided to head up getting this page back to its former guideline designation. As one might guess User:Radiant! is editing to try to negate this push. Given your familiarity with this I was wondering if you might join the discussion about this. Also your previously edited on the shortcut WP:POLL which apparently you agreed with in terms of it pointing to Wikipedia:Straw polls (rather logical no WP:POLL → WP:POLLS ?). Radiant! doesn't agree with this logical redirection (and neither for WP:POLLS as well). Could you take a look at these too? Thanks. ( → Netscott) 08:16, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
It's things like this and this that inspire feelings of great justice in fellow Wikipedians. It's good to know that someone still has the energy to flip the argument back at Bus stop. I've all but zombified. -- C.Logan 01:29, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
Well, this makes a lovely read. -- C.Logan 05:53, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
I'll laugh if Cleo tries to represent communication like this as some sort of actual teamwork, but I'd like to ask you something. What's up with this? I'm curious as to why they consider you in such a light. It seems that Cleo had accused me of being a troll for responding to comments on Bus stop's page directly related to the discussion. I'm assuming you are in the same boat, but as it seems that they take your reasonable removal of Bus stop's latest personal attacks as vandalism, it's worth asking. Apparently, they aren't aware that there's no consensus on Wikipedia regarding the act of removing personal attacks, but that it is permissible in some instances- and considering that the statements you removed were somewhere near the hundreds mark for Bus stop's personal-attack-o-meter, I find this to be an acceptable instance.
Unfortunately, I'm reminded by this that many of my own statements are offensive and could be considered attacks. Though they are usually from frustration (or disbelief at the argument being put forth), I hope to curb such statements in future comments. -- C.Logan 10:02, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Well, this makes a lovely read. -- C.Logan 05:53, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
I'll laugh if Cleo tries to represent communication like this as some sort of actual teamwork, but I'd like to ask you something. What's up with this? I'm curious as to why they consider you in such a light. It seems that Cleo had accused me of being a troll for responding to comments on Bus stop's page directly related to the discussion. I'm assuming you are in the same boat, but as it seems that they take your reasonable removal of Bus stop's latest personal attacks as vandalism, it's worth asking. Apparently, they aren't aware that there's no consensus on Wikipedia regarding the act of removing personal attacks, but that it is permissible in some instances- and considering that the statements you removed were somewhere near the hundreds mark for Bus stop's personal-attack-o-meter, I find this to be an acceptable instance.
Unfortunately, I'm reminded by this that many of my own statements are offensive and could be considered attacks. Though they are usually from frustration (or disbelief at the argument being put forth), I hope to curb such statements in future comments. -- C.Logan 10:02, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your reasonable comments of late regarding religious issues. However, I note that your talk page is getting almost as long as some of the threads in the Talk:List of notable converts to Christianity page. Anyway, keep up the good work. :) John Carter 13:58, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
I have requested ArbCom leave your comments here. Arbustoo 17:23, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
JJay, I'm unsure why you keep removing that template, which is trying to fix the very problem you have with the lists in the first place. The lists are filled with unsourced claims; the template encourages people to remove dubious items. Jayjg (talk) 22:01, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/HHO gas (4th nomination)#ems_comments. Those sources are not worth much of anything. -- EMS | Talk 23:24, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
With regards your edit summary here, I would suggest you "get real" and stop violating our biographies of living people policy. This was the version that complied with policy, and this edit inserted a BLP violation into the article as it had no sources. One Night In Hackney 303 03:13, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Damnit JJay - I'm so sorry about this! I have no idea how I managed to revert the Chicago Graduate School of Divinity back into the article twice. I was obviously trying to keep the well-cited fact removed (twice, I think) by anonymous editors but somehow I got my wires crossed and the Chicago Graduate School of Divinity got caught up in my reverts. Thanks for noticing and fixing my mistakes! -- ElKevbo 16:49, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
On the Talk:Bob Dylan page, we have once again been told that there is no evidence of the subject having ever converted by you know who. I think you can answer this better than I can. John Carter 01:17, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
An article that you have been involved in editing, List of unaccredited institutions of higher learning, has been listed by me for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of unaccredited institutions of higher learning. Thank you. --Dynaflow babble 04:41, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
I have submitted a report on User:Bus stop on the ArbCom page here. As an individual who was involved in this debate, your participation would be appreciated. Thanks. Drumpler 17:29, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Hello,
You were involved in a debate back in March/April regarding an article on the band Dryve.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Dryve
For whatever reason, it was resurrected again for debate and deleted.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Dryve_%28second_nomination%29
Could you be of help in reversing the deletion? I was a founding member of the band and I can fully verify any and all of the information in the article. I firmly believe it meets the requirements laid out in WP:MUSIC.
Thank you and please contact me if you need any more information.
Keith Andrew kickstar1@hotmail.com -- Kickstar1 04:55, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
Please involve yourself on my count Idontwantaccount2 17:23, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
This is to inform that the Singapore Airlines fleet article has been nominated for deletion by Russavia. Please refer to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Singapore Airlines fleet (2nd nomination) and weigh in your opinion if you wish. Thank you!-- Huaiwei 06:58, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
As you participated in the prior TfD, I thought you would be interested that it has been proposed for deletion once again. You can find the discussion here. SkierRMH 02:43, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
An article that you have been involved in editing, Beecon, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Beecon (2nd nomination). Thank you. ... discospinster talk 23:06, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
The article Rebecca Cardon is being discussed concerning whether it is suitable for inclusion as an article according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rebecca Cardon (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 20:40, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
I saw one of your comments on a page giving guidance about external links to YouTube. You stated that if the link adds value and does not violate copyright, it should be linked.
I have added a requested edit to a medical topic; I’m a year away from my degree (medical doctor). The edit request is a link to a YouTube video that I created, and is therefore a conflict of interest (I also earn an insignificant amount from the ads that run on the video).
I have been declined by three people simply because it goes to YouTube, and/or because someone might earn money from it, but nothing actually addresses the value of the content or the copyright issue (which are both fine).
What advice do you have? Talk page on hepatic encephalopathy Tmbirkhead ( talk) 03:02, 13 December 2017 (UTC)