Hmm, I can tell you've got nothing else going on in your life other than "guarding" the Spore page from being anything else than what you want. That's kind of sad. It's all yours. I hope your life gets a little less pathetic and pitiful... seriously, I do. Enjoy your Spore page. -- Jonah5678 ( talk) 16:07, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi JAF1970. I understand your rationale and appreciate your dedication to keeping Wikipedia reliable, but wouldn't you say that the creator of the game discussing development on the Wii is enough reason to note that a Wii version is being developed? Did you read the reference I gave? What benefit is there in waiting until EA lists the game in a release calendar?--
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Why do you keep adding just the Wii, then? If you were sincere, you'd add the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3 and the PlayStation Portable as well. (chuckle) JAF1970 ( talk) 20:22, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
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That is not how succession boxes work. The far left box is for the game that follows MLB 2K8, whether or not it will exist and whatever it might be called. Yes MLB 2K8 is the current version of the game, but that's what the center rectangle is for, not the right one. The right one has nothing to do with 2K8, and therefore the word current is out of place there. TBD or Unknown would be appropriate, as MLB 2K8's successor has yet to be announced.► Chris Nelson Holla! 23:54, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
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Whether or not he uses it as an example in the podcast is irrelevant. It's pointless to list a random minor league team here, it does not enhance anyone's understanding. Minor league baseball is already linked in the sentence, so that's enough.► Chris Nelson Holla! 20:26, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Man, you beat me to creating the article! ( Ender's Game (video game) Oh well. =) Anyways I removed the statement about them purchasing the rights in 2005, since I couldn't find that fact in the links. Perhaps you can point it out and reference it? Xenocidic ( talk) 18:13, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Your humongous presence on Wikipedia is overwhelming. I know someone who apparently went on a date with you once. -- Node ( talk) 16:58, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
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The date list has a few tiny differences compared to the other. There's no need to be redundant here. I see no other console or download lists that are like this, Xbox Live Arcade shouldn't be an exception. I've created this section to discuss the matter: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Video_games#2_similar_Xbox_Live_Arcade_lists RobJ1981 ( talk) 18:48, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
You're being completely irrational. GameSpot has been considered a reliable source (in regard to gameplay information and console editions) on Spore, so why are you so persistent on removing any mention of the Wii version in the article? Yes, the Wii version wasn't mentioned in EA's press release, but only because it won't be ready for the September release date. While I understand that any mention of PS3/Xbox360 or PSP versions are based purely on speculation, there has been significant mention of a Wii version. Sillygostly ( talk) 00:54, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. And come on, you know better than to edit war. Master of Puppets Call me MoP!☺ 01:12, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Let's go to the official Spore site, shall we? Tell me, WHAT'S THAT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE? Looks like an RP badge to me. Case closed. JAF1970 ( talk) 01:40, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
If I tell Sillygostly the world is round, he'll say it isn't, even if I show him photos from space. The RP rating is smack dab on the official site and he claims it doesn't count. (rolling eyes) JAF1970 ( talk) 01:44, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Please stop insulting me like you did in Talk: Spore (video game). Continue to do so and I will be forced to take action. I have no doubt in my mind that you wouldn't be so forgiving if the shoe was on the other foot. Sillygostly ( talk) 02:20, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
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while I'm with you on this one, didn't MoP make something of an informal ruling on the talk page? xenocidic ( talk) 20:30, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
“ | Uh, JAF1970... what do you mean? Will Wright himself has stated that there is a Wii version in development. Can I safely say this dispute is settled? Master of Puppets Call me MoP!☺ 02:14, 14 February 2008 (UTC) | ” |
Wright never said that. He said he wanted to. JAF1970 ( talk) 04:07, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
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Do not "yell" at me as it is considered rude and uncivil. I did not arbitrarily "delete" any of the Spore-related articles. I simply redirected them as the information provided in the DS/Mobile articles are copy/pastes from the main article. You for one are ignoring the fact that you're artitrarily CREATING articles that serve absolutely no purpose. Sillygostly ( talk) 02:07, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
You vandalized both articles by clearing them, kid. How come you didn't ask for a Quick Article Delete? Because you know you'd lose? Do not ever delete articles without Wikipedia consent. Ever. JAF1970 ( talk) 04:17, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I removed your report from WP:AIV because this is a content issue and not vandalism. If you are unable to resolve your issue through discussion, you may want to look at dispute resolution. I will, however, note that calling someone "twit" and "kid" is not helpful.-- Kubigula ( talk) 04:25, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Jaf - I've looked through Sillygostly contribs, and it's clear he did nothing wrong. From a content perspective, you both acted in good faith and simply have different views on style and presentation. You reverted his changes, so I'd suggest he try to build a consensus on the content issue if he wants to change it. In terms of your interaction, I have to say that you've made yourself difficult to work with. Assume good faith and avoid personal comments. I hate sounding like the PC police, but it's hard to make progress if you don't build a collegial atmosphere.-- Kubigula ( talk) 05:53, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
He doesn't exactly do research. He claims EA didn't officially call the DS version "Spore Creatures", except for the fact they submitted it as Spore Creatures to the ESRB for rating, they've held hands-on previews of the game and called it Spore Creatures, etc. And he proposed a "merger" in the Spore talk page, but went ahead and did it himself. Why? Well, I guess if no one discusses it in 5 minutes, it's all up for grabs. Let me ask you - what interaction is there? He does what he wants - I even called it on this page. I said, "He'd just wait for a change to make his changes again when no one is looking", and bingo. And you say *I* am difficult to work with? JAF1970 ( talk) 06:00, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Here's the problem: Consensus? You've never made an attempt to reach a consensus with me. You've arbitrarily created superfluous articles . Now, that's his opinion, but he treats it like it's a fact. He's never once opened a forum on the fact - something that you yourself said he should do. However, he doesn't.
He suggested a merger in the Spore talk page... but 5 minutes later he did it for a third time, without any discussion whatsoever. JAF1970 ( talk) 06:11, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
1. set up a AfD in the target article 2. actually get a few people discussing it YOU HAVE DONE NEITHER. The difference between this and that is that no one actually posted the AfD tag in either article. You just posted some "let's merge" in the Spore article and did it yourself 5 minutes later without ANYONE discussing it. JAF1970 ( talk) 06:48, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps your contributions would be better suited here... http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page Sillygostly ( talk) 06:09, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
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Hi JAF,
It seems like one of the most recent edits to the Spore article really annoyed you somehow, I'd suggest not having a big rant on the talk page as it doesn't really look that great for one of the article's main contributors! Possibly instead have a word on the contributor's talk page instead of the article page! Otherwise, keep up the good work! -- Samtheboy ( t/ c) 09:24, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Hey JAF - I noticed you reversed my move of AGEIA to Ageia. I wanted to point you to WP:MOSTM, which says that WP should not use all caps for company names and other trademarks, even if that is what the company does. In fact, there was recently an article move to Nvidia, even though the company prefers all caps. As a result, I would like to try the article move again, but wanted to talk here first. Let me know your thoughts. UnitedStatesian ( talk) 20:18, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
The orphan tag on Keystone (video game) is justified. A few links is an orphan. Fable 2 being "major" as you state doesn't fix the orphan problem. Any further removing of the orphan tag will be considered vandalism. Fix the problem, if you don't like the tag. Otherwise leave the tag alone, instead of removing it. RobJ1981 ( talk) 20:49, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Hmm, I can tell you've got nothing else going on in your life other than "guarding" the Spore page from being anything else than what you want. That's kind of sad. It's all yours. I hope your life gets a little less pathetic and pitiful... seriously, I do. Enjoy your Spore page. -- Jonah5678 ( talk) 16:07, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi JAF1970. I understand your rationale and appreciate your dedication to keeping Wikipedia reliable, but wouldn't you say that the creator of the game discussing development on the Wii is enough reason to note that a Wii version is being developed? Did you read the reference I gave? What benefit is there in waiting until EA lists the game in a release calendar?--
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Why do you keep adding just the Wii, then? If you were sincere, you'd add the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3 and the PlayStation Portable as well. (chuckle) JAF1970 ( talk) 20:22, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
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That is not how succession boxes work. The far left box is for the game that follows MLB 2K8, whether or not it will exist and whatever it might be called. Yes MLB 2K8 is the current version of the game, but that's what the center rectangle is for, not the right one. The right one has nothing to do with 2K8, and therefore the word current is out of place there. TBD or Unknown would be appropriate, as MLB 2K8's successor has yet to be announced.► Chris Nelson Holla! 23:54, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
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Whether or not he uses it as an example in the podcast is irrelevant. It's pointless to list a random minor league team here, it does not enhance anyone's understanding. Minor league baseball is already linked in the sentence, so that's enough.► Chris Nelson Holla! 20:26, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Man, you beat me to creating the article! ( Ender's Game (video game) Oh well. =) Anyways I removed the statement about them purchasing the rights in 2005, since I couldn't find that fact in the links. Perhaps you can point it out and reference it? Xenocidic ( talk) 18:13, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Your humongous presence on Wikipedia is overwhelming. I know someone who apparently went on a date with you once. -- Node ( talk) 16:58, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
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The date list has a few tiny differences compared to the other. There's no need to be redundant here. I see no other console or download lists that are like this, Xbox Live Arcade shouldn't be an exception. I've created this section to discuss the matter: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Video_games#2_similar_Xbox_Live_Arcade_lists RobJ1981 ( talk) 18:48, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
You're being completely irrational. GameSpot has been considered a reliable source (in regard to gameplay information and console editions) on Spore, so why are you so persistent on removing any mention of the Wii version in the article? Yes, the Wii version wasn't mentioned in EA's press release, but only because it won't be ready for the September release date. While I understand that any mention of PS3/Xbox360 or PSP versions are based purely on speculation, there has been significant mention of a Wii version. Sillygostly ( talk) 00:54, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. And come on, you know better than to edit war. Master of Puppets Call me MoP!☺ 01:12, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Let's go to the official Spore site, shall we? Tell me, WHAT'S THAT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE? Looks like an RP badge to me. Case closed. JAF1970 ( talk) 01:40, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
If I tell Sillygostly the world is round, he'll say it isn't, even if I show him photos from space. The RP rating is smack dab on the official site and he claims it doesn't count. (rolling eyes) JAF1970 ( talk) 01:44, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Please stop insulting me like you did in Talk: Spore (video game). Continue to do so and I will be forced to take action. I have no doubt in my mind that you wouldn't be so forgiving if the shoe was on the other foot. Sillygostly ( talk) 02:20, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
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while I'm with you on this one, didn't MoP make something of an informal ruling on the talk page? xenocidic ( talk) 20:30, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
“ | Uh, JAF1970... what do you mean? Will Wright himself has stated that there is a Wii version in development. Can I safely say this dispute is settled? Master of Puppets Call me MoP!☺ 02:14, 14 February 2008 (UTC) | ” |
Wright never said that. He said he wanted to. JAF1970 ( talk) 04:07, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
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Do not "yell" at me as it is considered rude and uncivil. I did not arbitrarily "delete" any of the Spore-related articles. I simply redirected them as the information provided in the DS/Mobile articles are copy/pastes from the main article. You for one are ignoring the fact that you're artitrarily CREATING articles that serve absolutely no purpose. Sillygostly ( talk) 02:07, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
You vandalized both articles by clearing them, kid. How come you didn't ask for a Quick Article Delete? Because you know you'd lose? Do not ever delete articles without Wikipedia consent. Ever. JAF1970 ( talk) 04:17, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I removed your report from WP:AIV because this is a content issue and not vandalism. If you are unable to resolve your issue through discussion, you may want to look at dispute resolution. I will, however, note that calling someone "twit" and "kid" is not helpful.-- Kubigula ( talk) 04:25, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Jaf - I've looked through Sillygostly contribs, and it's clear he did nothing wrong. From a content perspective, you both acted in good faith and simply have different views on style and presentation. You reverted his changes, so I'd suggest he try to build a consensus on the content issue if he wants to change it. In terms of your interaction, I have to say that you've made yourself difficult to work with. Assume good faith and avoid personal comments. I hate sounding like the PC police, but it's hard to make progress if you don't build a collegial atmosphere.-- Kubigula ( talk) 05:53, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
He doesn't exactly do research. He claims EA didn't officially call the DS version "Spore Creatures", except for the fact they submitted it as Spore Creatures to the ESRB for rating, they've held hands-on previews of the game and called it Spore Creatures, etc. And he proposed a "merger" in the Spore talk page, but went ahead and did it himself. Why? Well, I guess if no one discusses it in 5 minutes, it's all up for grabs. Let me ask you - what interaction is there? He does what he wants - I even called it on this page. I said, "He'd just wait for a change to make his changes again when no one is looking", and bingo. And you say *I* am difficult to work with? JAF1970 ( talk) 06:00, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Here's the problem: Consensus? You've never made an attempt to reach a consensus with me. You've arbitrarily created superfluous articles . Now, that's his opinion, but he treats it like it's a fact. He's never once opened a forum on the fact - something that you yourself said he should do. However, he doesn't.
He suggested a merger in the Spore talk page... but 5 minutes later he did it for a third time, without any discussion whatsoever. JAF1970 ( talk) 06:11, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
1. set up a AfD in the target article 2. actually get a few people discussing it YOU HAVE DONE NEITHER. The difference between this and that is that no one actually posted the AfD tag in either article. You just posted some "let's merge" in the Spore article and did it yourself 5 minutes later without ANYONE discussing it. JAF1970 ( talk) 06:48, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps your contributions would be better suited here... http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page Sillygostly ( talk) 06:09, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
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Hi JAF,
It seems like one of the most recent edits to the Spore article really annoyed you somehow, I'd suggest not having a big rant on the talk page as it doesn't really look that great for one of the article's main contributors! Possibly instead have a word on the contributor's talk page instead of the article page! Otherwise, keep up the good work! -- Samtheboy ( t/ c) 09:24, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Hey JAF - I noticed you reversed my move of AGEIA to Ageia. I wanted to point you to WP:MOSTM, which says that WP should not use all caps for company names and other trademarks, even if that is what the company does. In fact, there was recently an article move to Nvidia, even though the company prefers all caps. As a result, I would like to try the article move again, but wanted to talk here first. Let me know your thoughts. UnitedStatesian ( talk) 20:18, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
The orphan tag on Keystone (video game) is justified. A few links is an orphan. Fable 2 being "major" as you state doesn't fix the orphan problem. Any further removing of the orphan tag will be considered vandalism. Fix the problem, if you don't like the tag. Otherwise leave the tag alone, instead of removing it. RobJ1981 ( talk) 20:49, 24 February 2008 (UTC)