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The tone was "self-serving" and has now been neutralised by taking out personalisations (use of first names), "peacocks" and removing whole sections that focus on process like Membership, which is not of interest to anyone wanting to understand what the society stands for from a encyclopedic persepctive. -- Guy WF Loftus ( talk) 15:52, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Guy, you have recently created a talk page for the orwell society. As your page is still in Draft space, i have moved your request to Draft talk:Orwell Society so that it will be easily found by anyone looking at Draft:Orwell Society. I have flagged the original page for deletion as it serves no purpose isolated from the article under discussion. IdreamofJeanie ( talk) 07:47, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
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Hi Captain Calm - I haven't quite sorted out "talking" yet but thank you for going to the trouble to remount this - actually, I am doing this on behalf of the eponymous subject, who is too private a person to do this himself but his notability (being George Orwell's son) is sought to give weight to his appointments (trustee of the Orwell Foundation, Patron of the Orwell Society etc...). He has decided to devote more time to preserving the memory of his father during a time when the value of truth is reaching new heights. He has told me this morning that rather than "Richard H Blair", he should be "Richard Horatio Blair" (we both preferred plain "Richard Blair" but that slot is already taken by a cricketer). Can you advise how to revise or delete this incipient stub?
Guy WF Loftus ( talk) 09:30, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
I don't think you got this - so in the spirit of apparent collaboration with some audit trail at least, I will create a new instance using "Richard Horatio Blair" with content, knowing that we can clean up this blind stub in time.
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Hello, could you please explain why you replaced another editor's signature with your own, in this edit at my talk page? Captain Calm ( talk) 06:55, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
My apologies - a problem with sharing a family computer. I hadn't noticed that my wife had already signed on. Guy WF Loftus ( talk) 07:00, 23 August 2020 (UTC) @ Captain Calm:
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Hi - I'm not sure if you follow legacy challenges but I thought I would mention (out of courtesy to you) that I have submitted the draft, which you kindly set up for me. @ UnitedStatesian: Guy WF Loftus ( talk) 20:38, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
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Bkissin ( talk) 15:39, 19 March 2021 (UTC)That is about this edit about that draft - if you want more input than mine, open a new thread on WP:HD or elsewhere (possibly linking to the archive page), but do not modify the archives.
Again, the usual process on Wikipedia is gradual edits directly on the mainspace articles when those already exist. Yes, that is a rather unusual process (most professional reports go through several drafts and internal rounds of revisions etc. before before posted to a wider audience), but that is the process we have. You did not follow it from the start; that’s not ideal, but that’s how things are, and now we have to deal with it.
You should definitely stop making rounds of revisions in draft space now. You will have to actually integrate the revisions in mainspace at some point, and the sooner the better, so just bite the bullet now. Somehow put your revisions into the main article, wait a week or so to see if some people object, and deal with the objections; once that is stabilized, you can make further revisions, this time directly in the mainspace. That is the only part of the advice that I am 100% sure of.
How to make the revisions is more complicated. Here’s what I would do, because I cannot see a better way.
The article below is a revision of the existing Wikipedia article on Oil reserves...) to the talk page of the draft (Draft talk:(your draft name)).
{{
Merge to|Draft:(your draft name)}}
template. This adds a "proposed merger" banner to the page. Technically, this is not really a merge, and we don’t merge articles from mainspace into draft, but I feel that’s the process that matches the situation the best, and it will get eyes on the page.{{
subst:submit}}
to its top (that puts it the articles for creation queue) and explain on the talk page that the old article should be deleted.There is a really really high chance that at some point someone will revert you or object to your actions in that process. If so, stop and listen to what they say. If they say you did not follow the process, tell them it was my suggestion (and that I know it’s not ideal but I have no better idea). Tigraan Click here for my talk page ("private" contact) 10:15, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
@ Tigraan: I have followed your method above, to good effect and am winding up the significant (offline) academic interest and discussion the revision has prompted. One recommendation is to change the title I used from "Hydrocarbon Reserves and Resource quantification" to "Petroleum Reserves and Resource quantification". Given that we are still in Draft space with this, which is the most efficient approach to changing titles? Guy WF Loftus ( talk) 08:01, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
{{
subst:submit}}
to the top, see above), the reviewer will be able to change the title, so the title of the draft is not all that important. Just leave instructions on the talk page if there’s something special to do.Modern sharks are classified within the clade Selachimorpha (or Selachii) (...) However, the term "shark" has also been (incorrectly) used to refer to extinct members of the subclass Elasmobranchii, which are technically outside the Selachimorpha clade.Tigraan Click here for my talk page ("private" contact) 09:25, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
Nearly ready to submit @ Tigraan: - there are so many perspectives to embrace on this article, which need careful attention, which is one reason it needed revision. Two very quick questions:
Hi @ Tagishsimon: - any idea why the article on "Andrekos Varnava" was removed from Wiki? Guy WF Loftus ( talk) 11:41, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
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🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 06:20, 6 November 2022 (UTC)@ Timtrent: I have updated the merge of the old article Oil reserves to the new mainspace article Oil & gas reserves and resource quantification. I had the new (replacement) article in Drafts for merger since June but that hasn't happened (as you said - easier in mainspace). Have I done what is required? In effect, the new article should replace the old as it is more complete, verified and up-to-date; but perhaps I have done it backwards? Can you advise how long might I expect this to take - another 3 months? Guy WF Loftus ( talk) 14:31, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
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The tone was "self-serving" and has now been neutralised by taking out personalisations (use of first names), "peacocks" and removing whole sections that focus on process like Membership, which is not of interest to anyone wanting to understand what the society stands for from a encyclopedic persepctive. -- Guy WF Loftus ( talk) 15:52, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Guy, you have recently created a talk page for the orwell society. As your page is still in Draft space, i have moved your request to Draft talk:Orwell Society so that it will be easily found by anyone looking at Draft:Orwell Society. I have flagged the original page for deletion as it serves no purpose isolated from the article under discussion. IdreamofJeanie ( talk) 07:47, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
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Hi Captain Calm - I haven't quite sorted out "talking" yet but thank you for going to the trouble to remount this - actually, I am doing this on behalf of the eponymous subject, who is too private a person to do this himself but his notability (being George Orwell's son) is sought to give weight to his appointments (trustee of the Orwell Foundation, Patron of the Orwell Society etc...). He has decided to devote more time to preserving the memory of his father during a time when the value of truth is reaching new heights. He has told me this morning that rather than "Richard H Blair", he should be "Richard Horatio Blair" (we both preferred plain "Richard Blair" but that slot is already taken by a cricketer). Can you advise how to revise or delete this incipient stub?
Guy WF Loftus ( talk) 09:30, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
I don't think you got this - so in the spirit of apparent collaboration with some audit trail at least, I will create a new instance using "Richard Horatio Blair" with content, knowing that we can clean up this blind stub in time.
Guy WF Loftus ( talk) 06:36, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
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(talk) 10:05, 22 August 2020 (UTC)Thank you both for your contributions (and your help nudging me closer to something like effectiveness. {{
ping|Captain Calm}}
{{
ping|Thjarkur}}
Guy WF Loftus (
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Hello, could you please explain why you replaced another editor's signature with your own, in this edit at my talk page? Captain Calm ( talk) 06:55, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
My apologies - a problem with sharing a family computer. I hadn't noticed that my wife had already signed on. Guy WF Loftus ( talk) 07:00, 23 August 2020 (UTC) @ Captain Calm:
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Hi - I'm not sure if you follow legacy challenges but I thought I would mention (out of courtesy to you) that I have submitted the draft, which you kindly set up for me. @ UnitedStatesian: Guy WF Loftus ( talk) 20:38, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
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Bkissin ( talk) 15:39, 19 March 2021 (UTC)That is about this edit about that draft - if you want more input than mine, open a new thread on WP:HD or elsewhere (possibly linking to the archive page), but do not modify the archives.
Again, the usual process on Wikipedia is gradual edits directly on the mainspace articles when those already exist. Yes, that is a rather unusual process (most professional reports go through several drafts and internal rounds of revisions etc. before before posted to a wider audience), but that is the process we have. You did not follow it from the start; that’s not ideal, but that’s how things are, and now we have to deal with it.
You should definitely stop making rounds of revisions in draft space now. You will have to actually integrate the revisions in mainspace at some point, and the sooner the better, so just bite the bullet now. Somehow put your revisions into the main article, wait a week or so to see if some people object, and deal with the objections; once that is stabilized, you can make further revisions, this time directly in the mainspace. That is the only part of the advice that I am 100% sure of.
How to make the revisions is more complicated. Here’s what I would do, because I cannot see a better way.
The article below is a revision of the existing Wikipedia article on Oil reserves...) to the talk page of the draft (Draft talk:(your draft name)).
{{
Merge to|Draft:(your draft name)}}
template. This adds a "proposed merger" banner to the page. Technically, this is not really a merge, and we don’t merge articles from mainspace into draft, but I feel that’s the process that matches the situation the best, and it will get eyes on the page.{{
subst:submit}}
to its top (that puts it the articles for creation queue) and explain on the talk page that the old article should be deleted.There is a really really high chance that at some point someone will revert you or object to your actions in that process. If so, stop and listen to what they say. If they say you did not follow the process, tell them it was my suggestion (and that I know it’s not ideal but I have no better idea). Tigraan Click here for my talk page ("private" contact) 10:15, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
@ Tigraan: I have followed your method above, to good effect and am winding up the significant (offline) academic interest and discussion the revision has prompted. One recommendation is to change the title I used from "Hydrocarbon Reserves and Resource quantification" to "Petroleum Reserves and Resource quantification". Given that we are still in Draft space with this, which is the most efficient approach to changing titles? Guy WF Loftus ( talk) 08:01, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
{{
subst:submit}}
to the top, see above), the reviewer will be able to change the title, so the title of the draft is not all that important. Just leave instructions on the talk page if there’s something special to do.Modern sharks are classified within the clade Selachimorpha (or Selachii) (...) However, the term "shark" has also been (incorrectly) used to refer to extinct members of the subclass Elasmobranchii, which are technically outside the Selachimorpha clade.Tigraan Click here for my talk page ("private" contact) 09:25, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
Nearly ready to submit @ Tigraan: - there are so many perspectives to embrace on this article, which need careful attention, which is one reason it needed revision. Two very quick questions:
Hi @ Tagishsimon: - any idea why the article on "Andrekos Varnava" was removed from Wiki? Guy WF Loftus ( talk) 11:41, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.
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🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 06:20, 6 November 2022 (UTC)@ Timtrent: I have updated the merge of the old article Oil reserves to the new mainspace article Oil & gas reserves and resource quantification. I had the new (replacement) article in Drafts for merger since June but that hasn't happened (as you said - easier in mainspace). Have I done what is required? In effect, the new article should replace the old as it is more complete, verified and up-to-date; but perhaps I have done it backwards? Can you advise how long might I expect this to take - another 3 months? Guy WF Loftus ( talk) 14:31, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
Hello, Guy WF Loftus. Thank you for your work on Unconventional (oil & gas) reservoir. User:Scope creep, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:
Great article.
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