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Be strong! I am on your side so the force is with you. ;) - Darwinek 10:29, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
thanks...pal :)
che 19:51, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Hehe, carnival....wish I could be there ;)-- Shanel 06:07, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
An organized consensus in regard to the Puerto Rican Spindalis has been placed at [1]. Please express your opinion. Tony the Marine 14:44, 27 February 2006 (UTC) (P.S. I love that carnival image)
I replied to your comment on User talk:Kasreyn. Qutezuce 20:44, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Guettarda, recently you posted on my talk page "bringing people here to stack a vote is considered meatpuppetry and is frowned upon." It now appears that Tony the Marine has done precisely that with his post above. This message went out only to people who supported his position on Puerto Rico. Pmsyyz and Sceptre were not invited. As a new user I want to follow Wikipedia's guidelines of behavior, but this is certainly a case where actions speak louder then words. What do you plan to do about Tony the Marine's action? Algr 09:13, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
There were too many "cooks" in there for awhile, some trying to cope with vandalism while others were editing. Thanks for your help. Sunray 18:15, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
I need as many comments like those as possible right now, I feel like i'm an inferior person, someone who's unable to communicate their thoughts to try and help the encyclopedia without pissing off the people they care about. If you can, please help me fix myself so I can become a better person, I love this place but I need to improve myself. I will assist you with anything I can do in any case, regardless of your reply. Karm a fist 20:27, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Dear Guettarda..i want to appologize 2 u .. coz last time i do some editing about portia...the prime minister of jamaica..i didn't realize that i put away your portia.. actually could u change the portia to your last 'portia'...is there anything that we can settle this..? please do not feel dumb... :(
che 01:12, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi Guettarda. I have begun a collaboration of the month for the Puerto Rico Wikiproject. The collaboration is Accentuation. I have created a template and a subpage for it. The template can be found at the top of the project and the details for the collaboration can be accessed through the navigation template or by clicking here. Please tell me what you think about all this. Joelito 22:41, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
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Thank you! Hi Guettarda/Archive13 thank you for your support in my Rfa! It passed with a final tally of 86/0/0. If you need help or just want to talk let me know! Again, thank you! – Dakota ~ ° 16:23, 3 March 2006 (UTC) |
Link fixed in Talk:Irreducible complexity, thank you.
Tabletop 02:08, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
(mv'd from your userpage: William M. Connolley 09:35, 4 March 2006 (UTC))
A few days ago I started to write an article for him. If possible, could you take a look at it before I move it to the article space? Any changes would, of couse, be appreciated :)-- Shanel 03:56, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
You seem confused about creationism and intelligent design. ID does not deny macroevolution; creationism does. Furthermore, you apparently do not realize that 'creationism' includes both young-earth and old-earth creationists, whereas the vast majority of ID theorists accept an old earth. ID also leaves open the question of who the designer is, unlike creationism, whether Christian or Muslim.
Furthermore, ID is not an offshoot of creationism. ID is rooted in the teleological argument, whereas creationism is rooted in revelation, whether through the Koran, Bible, or another holy book. This makes creationism and ID mutually exclusive on philosophical merits; one cannot be an offshoot of the other. Furthermore, the prominent proponents of ID, although often Christian, were never originally creationists. Therefore, calling ID an 'offshoot' of creationism is deceptive---besides being philosophically impossible.
Hope that helps. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Razzendahcuben ( talk • contribs)
1. You were never insulted. Let's move on with the discussion.
2. Actually, I did read a significant amount of the article. I will show that even by the article's own standards, ID should not be called creationism or vice versa.
First, the name of the article is "Creationism and Intelligent Design"---he got the dichotomy correct in one place, at least.
On p144, the Mr. Pennock says that one of the purposes of his article is to provide a typology to distinguish the different forms of antievolutionism. He's already off to a bad start. Antievolutionism is inaccurate because all creationists and ID theorists accept microevolution, and many accept macroevolution.
Once again, the 'definitions' portions begins with a glaring inaccuracy: 'In its basic generic sense, creationism refers to any view that rejects evolution in favor of the action of some personal, supernatural creator.' Mr. Pennock would include theistic evolutionists in this category, and yet in the next parapraph he writes that they should not be considered creationists. Also, if the involvement of a personal creator is the criteria, this immediately rejects any creationism not based on the Bible.
"On the other hand, not all religions are creationist. Many religions and theological traditions accept the scientific understanding of evolution and therefore are not forms of creationism. The Catholic Church and most mainline Protestant denominations, for instance, do not consider evolution to be in conflict with Christian faith, holding that God could have ordained the evolutionary mechanism as the process for creating the biological world."
According to this definition, theistic evolution (henceforth TE) and ID should NOT be considered creationist! Both TE and ID "do not consider evolution to be in conflict with the Christian faith, holding that God could have ordained the evolutionary mechanism as the process for creating the biological world."
Proceeding on, Mr. Pennock points out that OEC's and YEC's agree with each other on (macro)evolution but not geology and cosmology. In other words, they both accept a special creation that did not involve any macroevolution. Good. But ID and TE certainly do not fit this category.
On p145, Mr. Pennock writes, "The ID Movement was singled out by the AAAS board resolution as the new player in the creation/evolution controversy." New player---good. That's because it's not creationism wearing different clothes or playing a different tune, it's just a teleological argument that apposes naturalism.
On p145, Johnson is quoted as pointing out the real similarity between ID, OEC, and YEC: anti-naturalism. True, but anti-naturalism is a very, very low common denominator. This doesn't make ID a type of creationism any more than it makes witchcraft a type of Christianity. Remember, Mr. Pennock already defined 'creationism' as to disallow those who accept evolution---regardless of whether a creator was involved.
In conclusion, Mr. Pennock is having trouble pushing his own agenda to the point where he contradicts himself, so maybe this probably isn't the paper you want to refer to.
3. You are correct---most ID theorists are silent about the age of the earth and macroevolution, which is all the more reason to distinguish them from creationists, who never accept macroevolution and who do make specific claims about the age of the earth. My experience concerning the age of the earth has shown me that since the only players that make the earth's age a controversy are YEC's, and YEC's never call themselves ID theorists, therefore anyone who is not a YEC accepts an old earth. There might be an exception here or there, but I'm saying that you'll almost always find this to be true. Also, OEC includes progressive creationism and theistic evolution. TE is evolution, yes.
Concerning the age of the earth, check out http://www.reasons.org/resources/apologetics/notable_leaders/index.shtml Here you see a long list of ID theorists and anthropic principle proponents cited as believing in an old universe. Michael Behe is on the list saying,
Nonetheless, the Big Bang hypothesis was embraced by physics and over the years has proven to be a very fruitful paradigm. The point here is that physics followed the data where it seemed to lead, even though some thought the model gave aid and comfort to religion.
From the Discovery Institute's web site:
Moreover, theories of design involving the special creative act of an agent conceptualize that act as a causal event, albeit involving mental rather than purely physical antecedents. Indeed, design theories—whether posited by young-earth Genesis literalists, old-earth progressive creationists, theistic macromutationalists or religiously agnostic biologists—refer to antecedent causal events or express some kind of causal scenario just as, for example, chemical evolutionary theories do.
Notice that the common denominator mentioned is "design theories", which INCLUDES creationists. But calling ID creationist is a logical fallacy. At its core, ID is a design theory. For creationism, however, being a design theory is just one of its many distinguishing features. Calling the one the other is completely invalid. Since the differences are so large, we separate the two completely to avoid a misunderstanding of terms. ("We" refers to those who understand the differences.)
Here's some other useful information from the ID website www.y-origins.com:
Q. ARE INTELLIGENT DESIGN AND BIBLICAL CREATIONISM THE SAME?
A. Although materialists and the media often lump them together, their premise is so different that it’s like comparing apples and oranges. Biblical creationism looks at science through the lens of Genesis, whereas intelligent design draws its logical inferences about our origins from scientific discoveries without any such filter. It is actually the scientific discoveries that have led many scientists, such as Einstein, to believe in a super-intelligence behind the universe. Intelligent design advocates vary in their religious beliefs, and leave the identity of the designer to theologians. Biblical creationists specify the designer as the Judeo-Christian God (See Article 8).
Very good. The difference between ID and biblical creationism is SPECIAL REVELATION---something that ID NEVER can or will provide. It is philosophically impossible. Obviously this can and should be extended to any creationism, whether based on the Koran or another religion offering special revelation.
Q. HAS A DESIGNER GIVEN US CLUES THAT REVEAL WHAT HE IS LIKE?
A. Since the discovery that the universe had a beginning, scientists have been wrestling with the questions of who started it all, and why. Many of them believe that a designer not only exists, but has revealed himself to us in specific ways (See Article 8).
Once again, they point out the critical issue of revelation that totally distinguishes ID from creationism. Calling ID creationism is definitely a misunderstanding of terms.
Finally, to really drive the final nail in the coffin, read this article from Answers in Genesis (obviously die-hard YECs). Notice that the question of whether ID is creationist, or vice versa, is never even entertained because anyone familiar with the two knows that such a question is ridiculous. Instead we read of the "creation movement" and the "intelligent design movement"---an obvious dichotomy.
In conclusion, Wikipedia articles should be modified to demonstrate the following trichotomy:
creationism - The special creative act of organisms in the earth's history as revealed by a supernatural being. This includes progressive creationism and young-earth creationism (based on the Bible or Koran or some other special revelation).
intelligent design - Intelligent design is the concept that "certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection." Philosophically, this does include creationism, but the disinction must be kept because ID is foremostly a movement, not just a philosophy. The shared philosophy should be referred to as antievolutionism or anti-naturalism.
evolution - includes evolutionary naturalism, theistic evolution, any theory that holds to macroevolution
Razzendahcuben 16:30, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Your rudeness is amazing.
Given your lack of desire to engage in civil discourse, I have no intention of even reading the rest of your reply, let alone engaging in your little game. As I said before, I see very little point in having a conversation with you anyway, since you choose to cherry-pick tidbits out of context to support your position. Please find someone stupider to bother. Guettarda 18:33, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
CSD G4 says "A substantially identical copy, by any title, of a page that was deleted according to the deletion policy, except if it is in user space, or undeleted per the undeletion policy". I don't find the page to be substantially identical at all. It's a new creation, not an undeletion, so DRV isn't applicable either. Guettarda 18:56, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
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This user thinks it is ironic that thanks for supporting Cyde's successful RFA came in the form of a userbox. |
Here's a userbox for you. -- Cyde Weys 04:18, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
I disagree with some of these changes - conservation ecology is far narrower than conservation - conservation biology is broader than conservation ecology, but even that is a subset of "conservation" - conservation biology does not include much of the specifically socio-cultural aspects of conservation. Guettarda 03:44, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
I'm puzzled by the behavior of the anonymous user that keeps inserting "detachment", and "independence" into a introductory paragraph of the specified complexity article, making that paragraph practically useless. It is true that detachment and independence were characterizations of specification that Dembski used in earlier versions of his work, but which he subsequently dropped as characterizations. There were lots of reasons for his having done so. The particular way this user is trying to reinsert these concepts is completely erroneous (even on Dembski's own terms).
I'm not sure exactly how to proceed here. This cycle of reversion is not very productive, but mainly I don't want to place myself in the position of clarifying Dembski. -- CSTAR 19:33, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
You can volunteer on that page. Look at the three others who already volunteered and give likewise your credentials. I think it essential to have at least two from our Tree of Life-project on that board. I can't volunteer. I simply don't have the credentials. But I hope others will volunteer too. The field we cover, biology, is so broad, that we need all the experts we can get on that board. Good luck. JoJan 19:11, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
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Hello, I'm trying (again) to get The George Washington University moved to George Washington University. Since you weighed in on this when it came up last year, I thought you might like to weigh in again. john k 23:30, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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Greetings from an Indian wikipedian. I have been around here for about a year, including being an administrator from 18th September 2005. I request you to kindly do me the favor of providing me your valuable comments and suggestions on my contributions, activities and behavior pattern. I shall be awaiting your free and frank opinion, which you are most welcome to give here. -- Bhadani 17:08, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
On the latest meta template. - Roy Boy 800 18:10, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Hey, Guettarda. I trust you've been well and that you enjoyed Carnival. (Hell, who doesn't?)
I've been back a few weeks now. I started just watching blackface and a few "pet" articles -- and now it seems I'm back. Maybe not as much as in the past. (But I hate to see black folk misrepresented and, like it or not this site is seeing a lot of use. The abjectly stubborn ignorance/obtuseness of many editors is still simply downright appalling.)
But to the subject of my note. JustforaSecond is insisting on a really tacky treatment of Dellums' family life. He's repeatedly reverted a more reasonable treatment with, I'm certain, ulterior motives. (Dellums is currently involved in an election bid for mayor of Oakland.) Another admin stepped in for a while, but apparently has abandoned the piece. I came to the article because someone visited my user page and requested I stop by. I deleted an entire, silly segment complaining about $125/plate fundraisers (when politicos routinely charge $1,000 and up.)
When you have a moment, I'd appreciate it if you'd stop by and take a look. I've just skimmed the entire article, and it's full of inane stuff that about the current campaign cycle that really has no place in an encyclopedia. The site should not be used as a political tool by someone with an axe to grind.
Thanks. Peace. Deeceevoice 08:30, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Never mind. I put it on the Admin. notice board -- which, I realize, was the best thing to do. Deeceevoice 13:52, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Hello, this is Kirk Meighoo. I have found the answer to the dispute about the WIFLP. It is the West Indies Federal Labour Party. My book is indeed in error. On the talk page, you will see a longer note of explanation. Thanks for pointing out the discrepancy, which went unnoticed elsewhere.
64.28.135.2 22:25, 17 March 2006 (UTC) Kirk Meighoo
Thanks for the many improvements to the Mount Saint Benedict stub. I'm wondering about searching on "St" and "Saint". A search on "Mount Saint Benedict" brings up the page, while "Mount St Benedict" doesn't find it. Daisy2 18:18, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
Your last comment in the workshop is under comments by Arbitrators. JoshuaZ 16:51, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
Btw, any idea when you are going to put diffs in for your second assertion on the evidence page? I'm somewhat anxious for this RfA to hurry up, since it looks like Felonious, Jim and I are about to have another RfA (this time with Benapgar) and two RfAs at once would probably put me at my wikistress limits. JoshuaZ 06:38, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
It may make sense to communicate this to Felonious since he seems to put a lot of time into RfAs, maybe he could do the other sections. Also, the Benapgar RfA will probably be a breeze, so I think it makes more sense to put time and effort into the Agapetos arb for now. (I may be strategizing too much here) JoshuaZ 07:05, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Especially after what Ben just did on the RfA page. JoshuaZ 07:05, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. Electionworld = Wilfried ( talk 20:16, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
How do you know he watches both pages? You must be a sockpuppet of Felonious! JoshuaZ 07:15, 22 March 2006 (UTC) (and I should probably clarify for Agapetos that this is a joke)
Dear Guettarda (beautiful name, genus of Rubiaceae), the question is not the discussion in itself, but the fact of having to leave of Wikipedia to discuss. As for Lauraceae, I understand very well, it is one of the families challenge for any taxonomist (the greatest of them, which more understood of this subject in every time was Nees). Berton 14:40, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi,
We started a proposal Wikipedia:Wikiethics to state the existing policies coherently and make suggestions on improving the editorial standards in Wiki. I thought you might be interested in contributing to that proposal.
Unfortunately, a pro-porn and pro-offense lobby is trying to make this proposal a failure. They unilaterally started an approval poll although almost no one including me believe that it is time for a vote, simply because the policy is not ready. It is not even written completely.
Editors who thinks that the policy needs to be improved rather than killed by an unfair poll at the beginning of the proposal, started another poll ('Do we really need a poll at this stage?') at the same time. The poll is vandalized for a while but it is stable now. A NO vote on this ('Do we really need a poll now?') poll will strengthen the position of the editors who are willing to improve the ethics policy further.
If you have concerns about the ethics and editorial standards in Wiki, please visit the page Wikipedia:Wikiethics with your suggestions on the policy. We have two subpages: Arguments and Sections. You might want to consider reviewing these pages as well...
Thanks in advance. Resid Gulerdem 00:53, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
We're having some slight trouble with an anom, at Peter Ruckman. See [3], [4], and [5]. It would be helpful if you maybe could have an admin word with him. JoshuaZ 23:24, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
If you could format slightly more your March 10, 15:17 comment that ends "Wikipedia is not a suicide pact" I'd appreciate it. Its quite eloquent but could use some sort of paragraph divisions. JoshuaZ 04:28, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
I know you are interested in christianity, and I recently started a new wiki over at wikicities which is on the subject of christianity. Christian Knowledge Base is the site.
The goal is to have a knowledgebase on christianity from a distinctly "C(hristian)POV" rather than the NPOV. It is not meant to be a mere Christian Encyclopedia, but to foster a real sense of community. I'd like to include things like current events, news, stories, and anything that would add to both an understanding of Christianity, but also its enjoyment. I'm looking for help to build a resource that could really enrich the lives of Christians.
I know you are busy but I am actively seeking new sysops/admins to help me build this site up, and I would be positively thrilled if you could contribute in any capacity whatsoever. nsandwich 05:51, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi Guettarda - could you take a look in on its talk page, please; there's 2 or 3 people (who haven't even contributed to the page at all!) are trying to move it to Tamarack, without the indication of genus affiliation. I think this is very unhelpful for indexing and categorisation. - Thanks, MPF 13:54, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
Have you considered starting a WikiProject on the Caribbean or maybe a discussion on the Ecology of the Caribbean? Joelito 18:30, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
It appears you are defending false representation of facts. Please consider whether you consider the bureaucratic processes of an organization that claims there are no rules more important than accurate,neutral factual representations. ! 172.193.9.65 08:20, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
I'm happy to see your User Page up again. I just finished my latest article African immigration to Puerto Rico, tell me what you think. Your friend Tony the Marine 17:14, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
Hello,
An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Marcosantezana. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Marcosantezana/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Marcosantezana/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, -- Tony Sidaway 18:10, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
Indigenous does not mean the same as endemic - indigenous means native to an area, endemic means restricted to an area. Guettarda 23:06, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi. I have created a template for Trinidad and Tobago topics. I have boldly added it to the Trinidad and Tobago page. I am not very knowledgable on T&T topics so feel free to edit it and add relevant topics to it. Take care. Joelito 20:42, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
I tried to simply edit the article in accordance with Wikipedia's external link policy. The spam links were reinstated. -- Brothergrimm 05:58, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for the wonderful shiny cluster barnstar & the words on it. I'm touched William M. Connolley 11:19, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Could this thing be any cuter? This is my other little devil.
· Katefan0 (scribble)/ poll 18:27, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Some of us in here (2% of Americans, for example) are allergic! *Atchoo*! Lovely kitties, though... *sniff* -- User:RyanFreisling @ 21:37, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Ok, made the change, thanks for the tip. By the way, what do you think of the evidence? JoshuaZ 02:01, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
If you didn't know yet, I'm going to Barbados in less than an hour. I won't be with you Wikipedians for the next six days...so wish me luck on that Green Card! -- Slgrandson 17:22, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for rving the vandalism on my user page. If you happen to rv vandalism there again, feel free to up the vandal counter by 1. JoshuaZ 22:36, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
Would you mind commenting again, here [6]? Nothing has really changed, but the alternatives (Axel vs. KimVLinde vs. Marcos) are more clearly defined and explained. I'd value your opinion. Slrubenstein | Talk 13:15, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi I., I don't blame you. But the link you provided is only 2/3 of the story. If the link I provide above works, you just need to go down to Gleng's 11:42 comment, which is at the bottom (right now, it is followed only by a brief comment from me). Gleng sums up the three alternatives pretty neatly. Slrubenstein | Talk 13:36, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi. I have just created a new article in which I must admit I copied your List of snakes of Trinidad and Tobago layout. I hope you do not mind. I should have asked you first. Anyways I would be honored if you would check it out and comment on it. The article is List of amphibians and reptiles of Puerto Rico. Take care. Joelito 17:58, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
Thank you. I think I confused everything, sorry. Berton 18:41, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
If you're going to have userboxes, Guettarda, that's the way to do it. Very tasty. -- Hoary 06:37, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Don't forget to meta-moderate other users' moderations. -- Cyde Weys 17:04, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Fehht, I got you on the meta. -- Cyde Weys 17:11, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
I very much appreciate your observation about the incident with Rhobite. Hopefully it is in the past. -- User:RyanFreisling @ 08:53, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your vote of confidence in my recent request for bureaucratship. Even though it didn't pass, I greatly appreciate your support and hope I will continue to have your respect. Thank you! Flcelloguy ( A note?) 23:04, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your support vote on my RFA. The final result was a successful request based on 111 support and 1 oppose. -- CBDunkerson 18:04, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
Guettarda, No, I did not nominate it because I'm offended by Duncharris. I did it because I repeatedly asked for a notability proof, but didn't get any. I tagged the article on 12th march or so, but the article didn't have anything in it since then to justify the notability of the subject. As for the Brittanica reference, I don't see any facts added to the article from the reference. I looked up the link provided, and it didn't provide any information other than the one liner.
So, the bottom line is, of course Duncharris has crossed the lines of decency a lot, but even disregarding that, the article does not provide any notability proof. I hope I've made my position clear. I'd have done the same for any other one liner article without any proof of notability, regardless of whether or not the original author of the page has been extremely rude to requests for references. Thanks. -- Ragib 20:54, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
You stated, "What is the value of adding a direct link to the monarch's website? There's nothing specific there to Jamaica, Barbados, etc. The page already links to the Wikipedia article on the monarch - there's no point to this link. Guettarda 19:48, 5 April 2006 (UTC)"
You are not reading my comments clearly. At no point did I say that you had no understanding of the monarchy; I said it may not seem important to you. Please answer my question and show me how to tell what level of 'admin' are you? Scotwood72
I don't remember if we have talked about this but, I'd like you to consider taking a postion on the IW Board of Regents. Unlike the HCBU project it would not require you to give out your name. Please respond as soon as possible. - JCarriker 03:22, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi Guettarda. Thanks so much for trying to help... I was caught in an ip autoblock and couldn't get the help of any admins. I emailed a couple, with no luck so I tried the block template but forgot my ip would be needed. In any case, I'm on a different ip now, so no problems any longer. Cheers and thanks again, Mikker "the dodgy Afrikaner" Pikker. :) ( Mikker (...) 08:05, 7 April 2006 (UTC))
Hello, Guettarda. This is about the wikify tag on ecological effects of biodiversity. In the edit summary, you said, the "article still does not conform to the structure of a wikipedia rticle - it's still an essay." I do not disagree that the article needs work. However, I believe that this is an issue that is better suited for a general cleanup tag, perhaps a rewrite tag if it is really bad, rather than a wikify tag. The article has many links and the subject is bolded (I guess I forgot to check if it was categorized, d'oh, but I just put it in Category:Biodiversity). These are the things that wikification takes care of. What do you think? I'm going offline in a minute, so I won't be able respond right away. Also, you can respond here. Thanks, Kjkolb 13:21, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Yup, in the end, I am just a hardcore ecologist :-) KimvdLinde 01:01, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
Howdy Guettarda . Hope things are well that side of the Atlantic... A couple of other editors and I are working on getting Richard Dawkins ready for WP:FAC. Could you please have a look? Richard_Dawkins#Evolutionary_biology is unsatisfactory, IMO, and stuff needs to be added about The Extended Phenotype. Help would be appreciated! Mikker (...) 18:44, 11 April 2006 (UTC) (note: I'm also asking dave souza to have a look...)
Thanks for your comments at History of Earth, Guettarda; I always value your advice. Do you have any suggestions on how I can improve the article further? I've been working on it for months, and would eventually like it to be a featured article. — Knowledge Seeker দ 00:35, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
I have nominated Category:Cricket subcategories for deletion here. This is just a courtesy note because you took part in an earlier inconclusive debate on the same subject, and may wish to comment on this one. If you're not interested, please forgive the intrusion. Stephen Turner ( Talk) 12:18, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
thanks, Slrubenstein | Talk 18:26, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
Hey, Guettarda. Thanks for your comments. I've reconsidered my position, which was based on an earlier approach I had to the article. I don't know if you recall, but when I proposed and worked on Cool in its earliest stages, it included the African origins. Encountering opposition from people who knew of the concept in only the pop culture concept, I left the article and started Cool (African philosophy). I've stated on the talk page of the latter that I am in favor of merging the two articles, based on my original approach to the subject matter. But I've since then, I've rethought that statement in light of the subsequent reading I've done. It makes no sense. And particularly because Wikipedia has such a paucity of articles dealing with Africa, I think it's importnat that it remain separate. But -- again -- because of collateral damage from a block of someone, I'm unable to make my thoughts known on the VfD page. I'd appreciate you posting my comments there. It seems that more academicians refer to cool as simply an "African aesthetic," so I propose renaming the article "Cool (African aesthetic)". I suggest that Cool (aesthetic) be renamed "Cool (pop culture aesthetic)" to distinguish between the two.
That may seem clumsy, but it's what comes to mind. What do you think? Deeceevoice 21:15, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
Do me a favor, please, and post the following for me on the AfD page -- since I can't get through:
Thanks! :) Deeceevoice 21:37, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
Saw you posted my comment. Thanks again. I can edit the page now, so I've included some additional material there and on the discussion page. Peace. Deeceevoice 07:03, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
A question. I'm afraid my delayed access/inability to post to the AfD page in a timely fashion because of the collateral block may have skewed the vote so far. Is there a better means of calling attention to the AfD? I'm confident that if other, more objective people weigh in after reading the material I've provided, the vote will be to keep the piece. Any suggestions? Also, I'm fed up with the constant campaigning to delete this piece. After all, this makes the third or fourth attempt, the last as late as December (I think). When does this crap stop? Deeceevoice 14:40, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
Nice to hear from you. Things have been up and down (in Wikipedia terms), though an unplanned Wikibreak of nearly a month in December/January helped. I'm trying to keep my editing down in order to get some work done on my next book and various papers — in which I've been partially successful...
I see from your User page that you share my worries about the state of Wikipedia; do call on me any time for help in that direction. Nil illegitimi carborumdum! -- Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης) 21:49, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
I've replaced the tree image with a larger file, thanks, jimfbleak 05:15, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
The blanket statement alledging that Dembski's response to his critics is 'polemic' is a slur. Unless you have access to every single response he has ever written, such a blanket statement is nothing more than an ad hominum attack. The entire tone of that section is hostile toward Dembski and needs to be fixed.
Propositions on the /Workshop page are rather tentative. Fred Bauder 12:36, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Hello, thanks for your message about the history deletions. Will this method work for versions that occur after the problem version? For example, if versions 1, 2, 3, 4 are fine, then problem version 5 is created, then version 6 is included which includes the problem content in version 5, but adds new content which is not problematic, how do I keep the good content in version 6 without reintroducing the bad content from version 5? It seems that version 6 contains both (a) bad content leftover from version 5 and (b) new, good content unique to version 6 that therefore needs to be preserved. Johntex\ talk 23:13, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
I set up a new trial here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Johntex/Sandbox_Delete_Test
Would you like to test it on this new version?
Johntex\
talk 00:13, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Please see the discussion about the new role of the board and the new charter here. Thanks. - JCarriker 22:33, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
Non-existent article? SP-KP 19:05, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
Apologies for the brief nature of the message above, which caused confusion - this was a response to your comment about the Trinidadian article being non-existent. It isn't now. Now that I have finished what I was in the middle of doing, rather than still being in the middle of it, I'd appreciate a second pair of eyes looking at it to check it is OK. Please do let me know if there are tasks remaining to be done. Also, if there is a standard way to indicate while I am making a series of inter-related edits that a task such as this is in mid-flow, could you let me know, so that I can use it in future, to avoid interruptions. SP-KP 19:24, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
What indications do we have that Dembski's phone call to the DHS resulted in Pianka's investigation? Dembski said on his blog that the DHS was already aware of Pianka when he called, so saying that hsi call 'resulted in' Pianka's investigation is purely speculative, and worse for the wear considering what Dembski said.
Do you have a content-related reason for this reversion, or is it just out of objection to the process? I believe there's lots of support for the redirect here. Friday (talk) 18:49, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
I was not edit warring on the article. I never edited that article. I was merely carrying out the consensus of the AfD. And do you really want to talk about "inappropriate"? How about editing a protected page? User:Zoe| (talk) 00:47, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
With nineteen external links there already, I thought that yet another one was link-farming (in fact, the others could do with being slimmed down a bit, as per Wikipedia:External links). -- Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης) 13:37, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Nah, it's actually "Shanel," although you wouldn't be the first person to read it that way. I'm actually in high school right now, although I would have liked to go to Naps. :D-- Shanel § 18:13, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
That you are so easily disturbed. User:Zoe| (talk) 01:47, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Hey. :)
A note to thank you for your reasoned voice in the recent VfD and DR matters. I see that Zoe's wholly improper redirect of Cool (African philosophy) to Cool (aesthetic) also has been undone. :)
Tell me, how does one go about getting the text in Cool (African philosophy) restored for possible later use/working reference in African aesthetic?
I also note that User:Zoe is continuing her edit warring with the insertion of an NPOV/unreferenced tag at African aesthetic -- and I've removed it. She affixed it with absolutely no discussion, and the material is, in fact, referenced. She needs to give it a rest and move on. deeceevoice 11:39, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
H-m-m. I may have gotten my "cool" articles mixed up, but I thought when I tried to access it earlier via the page history, I could get only as far as the recent blanking and redirects. But I just tried it, and I pulled it up. Thanks. deeceevoice 12:39, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Given that I've said several times during this that I could care less if someone is green with stripes, was this intended to be pointing the bone at me? If it was don't be too shy to tell me, always better to have things out in the open and I'm fairly hard to offend.
brenneman
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It seemed like the more appropriate name, although I am unaware of any other place named Banwari Trace. Yes, I was refering to the American places naming convention when I moved the article, even though it's not in America. Not really sure about if it is the rule for other articles, but maybe someone should bring it up in the future so furthur disamb. can happen for other articles. You can change it back of course, or mention it on the talk page. Moe ε 15:54, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for supporting my RfA. ¡PAZ!-- Rockero 00:53, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Hello Guettarda/Archive13. It is my intent to begin a Collaboration of the month for the Puerto Rico Wikiproject. I have suggested Politics of Puerto Rico and Economy of Puerto Rico as options for the collaboration for May. Please leave suggestions or comments on the talk page or vote for any of the choices I have suggested. Take care. Joelito 16:46, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
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Dear Guettarda, I really appreciate your vote and your kind words in my RFA. It has passed with an unexpected 114/2/2 and I feel honored by this show of confidence in me. Cheers! ← Humus sapiens ну? 04:30, 26 April 2006 (UTC) |
I must respectfully disagree; TrueOrigins references TalkOrigins on its front page. It contains numerous conversations involving the authors of TalkOrigins which are not to be found elsewhere. It contains many articles which were written solely and explicitly as responses to articles in TalkOrigins, and are quite pertinent to the publication in question (for example, see "Five Major Evolutionist Misconceptions about Evolution" [8]). As it is probably TalkOrigins biggest detractor, it deserves mention somewhere. If you prefer, it could be referenced in the article. Furthermore, it's hardly "link farming" when this is the only article I've added the link to (and the only one I intend to). It is not my creation, nor am I involved in it in any way or form. I appreciate your concerns about link-farming, though; it's something I've run into before. The Jade Knight 05:17, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi Guettarda, I suspect you may already have spotted my major overhaul of Climax Community. It had both some nutty stuff, and some more moderate but still not accurate stuff on Clements especially. So I just decided it was time to fix it. It's not perfect yet, but it's better I hope. So, any comments you have, I'd be happy for! (Also, I noticed that there's a user who's commented on your page called "che". Hmm. That's not me, for the record. Best, Chris CHE 05:22, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soca_Warriors_Supporters_Club_aka_%22The_Warrior_Nation%22
hi i need some assistance how come my page cant be displayed for other people to view? thanks S.W.S.C 00:55, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
Hello friend, do you remember me? In the month of September 2005, your vote had made me an administrator. we all know that the life here is exciting and full of challenges. I would request you to please spare fem moments for me, and favor me with your comments and suggestions ( here please) on my performance as a wikipedian. Let us continue to build the Better than the Best global encyclopedia. Thank you and regards. -- Bhadani 09:56, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I never came to thank you for the message you left for me a month ago when I stepped down from being a bureaucrat. Thank you for the things you said, it's good to know there are still plenty of good people about in this project. I do not see myself standing for bureaucrat again anytime soon though who knows what the future may bring! Thank you once again. --
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I wanted to stop by and thank you for your constructive criticism of my RFA. It's helped, and is helping, to improve me as a wikipedian and an editor. I look forward to gaining your support in the future. Until then, keep on keepin on. ⇒ SWATJester Ready Aim Fire! 19:29, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
This arbitration case has closed. Agapetos angel et al. are banned from editing Jonathan Sarfati and associated articles. The opposing editors (Duncharris, Guettarda, Jim62sch, and FeloniousMonk) are warned concerning NPOV and edit warring. Any user banned by this decision who violates the ban may be briefly blocked, up to a week in the event of repeat offenses. After 5 blocks the maximum ban shall increase to one year. For further information, please see the arbitration case. On behalf of the arbitration committee, Johnleemk | Talk 18:19, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
Please do not add frivolous tags as you did to my edit of "Media Matters." While I can compromise on your deletion of what you perceive as my "non-neutral" language I simply will not stand for un-needed "source" tags WHEN I PROVIDED A SOURCE! Stanley011 02:12, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm quite familiar with the policy and do not believe I am in violation of it in any way--I did not create those posts--they were sourced directly from the Media Matters website. I will, however, in the interests of appeasement, look for independent sources to confirm the obvious. In the meanwhile, please do not delete my edit. Stanley011 03:21, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi Guettarda, yes it's been a while since we've spoken - thanks for keeping in touch! :) Things are pretty good for me, although I suspect I'm going to have to cut down a little on the time I spend on WP (I've just landed myself yet another part-time job, which means I'm shuffling between three of them now. Just a few hours per week, but it all eats into the time). Hope things are well with you in the Caribbean - I suppose T&T is busy gearing up for the World Cup in a few weeks! Grutness... wha? 03:54, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
I can't explain the Lesser Antillean Saltator. It was on the first creation of this page, which is basically the Avibase list. Checking on Avibase this a.m., it appears to have been replaced now by Streaked Saltator. Since I know nothing at all about L A Saltator, I assume it is an Avibase error which they have corrected. jimfbleak 05:12, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
There is a discussion on the talk page. To remove the tag within two minutes because you disagree with it - something Ryan explcitly did - is POV pushing vandalism, and you know it. Phil Sandifer 04:41, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
By what standard? Phil Sandifer 04:59, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
i don't know how to change the linece to fair use... Crushtheturtle 21:41, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
ok. i added the sources Crushtheturtle 21:48, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
thanks! yes i am trini! Crushtheturtle 02:21, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi there! Greetings! Great to hear from you again! I was writing a couple of articles on "slavery", "blackbirding" and "coolies", etc., recently (I think all this history needs to be much better known) and this got me back to Trinidadian-related subjects (it always makes me so homesick! Although I was born in Canada and live in Australia, I always think of Trinidad as "home").
My wife is working late tonight so I got going - first adding "liming" to the Wiktionary. Then I put some old B&W photos and text, into articles on hosay, steelpan, T&T Carnival, the Bearded Bellbird, Nariva Swamp (with a photo of me as a young fellow!!!), centipedes, boa constrictors (photo of me again wrestling with a boa!!! ;^), yellow fever, and now a fairly long one on that amazing scientist and exceptional human being, Wilbur (Will) Downs.
What a night I've had - so many memories! Yes, sometime I will attempt an article on the Virus Lab. But it is such a big subject and I was so young then - I really wasn't aware of all that was going on although I worked trained there as a Lab. Assistant and Field Assistant most of my school holidays between about 1954 and 1960. What a priviledged life I lived!
If you have a look at any of these entries i would greatly appreciate any comments you might have. Also, I have asked people how I should tag photos my father took and left to me for copyright purposes. I have been using "Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike 2.5 License" but I am not convinced this is correct. Do you know what I should be using? Well, I had better stop here as you "User Talk" section is apparently getting toolong (or so it says at the top). I send you my very best wishes. Cheers, John Hill
Thank you for the feedback about unlinking for disambiguation on the term juvenile. I was doing this based upon my interpretation of the instructions for disambiguation. Instruction #6 says, "Also, when the link refers to a general meaning of the word, for which there is no relevant article, removing may be the most sensible option." Just let me know the best way to do this. It was my first effort at contributing. At the very least, I can go back and relink the term juvenile to the disambiguation page where I unlinked.
I do have a question. Maybe it's better if I ask it some where else. If so, point me in the right direction. When I'm doing disambiguation but the available definitions do not seem adequate, what is the best course of action? I left a talk note on the juvenile page. Is that the right way to do that or is the another way?
Thanks.
Please comment on my question at Talk:Juvenile Simon12 04:14, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
He, no worry. I can laugh about my own funky typo’s! :-) On a side note, I am busy with a new page for natural selection. Gleng is helping me (catching my typo's and grammar shit). It is not finished yet, but it you like to help, User:KimvdLinde/Natural selection is the place to be. Kim van der Linde it's a girl 00:48, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Hey my good friend, how are you? I've been working on a "Puerto Rican immigration series" and I wanted you to check one of my articles: African immigration to Puerto Rico. Tell me what you think of it. Take care Tony the Marine 01:14, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Please be careful when restoring the text you deleted, since editing is continuing.-- Poodleboy 21:46, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Hullo. The declaration that consensus had been reached seems to have been somewhat premature [and without consensus]. Thanks for bringing it to my attention, tho. Cheers, Tom e r talk 08:12, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
Personal attacks deleted] Blainetologist 15:52, 11 May 2006 (UTC) pointing out someone harassing me is not a "personal attack." Blainetologist 15:56, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
Yawn your still trying to twist it to say things it doesn't say and claim I did something I didn't. Blainetologist 16:19, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
See User:Blainetologist. According to Essjay he's Enviroknot. Guettarda 13:32, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
On the Juan Cole page, "the two of you seem to have stepped off the deep end into paranoia" is a personal attack. elizmr 20:35, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
As an editor with personal experience of this editor and situation, I thought you'd find this interesting: [9].
The animals section is not finished, yet, plus look at the to do list in the talk page, it say for examples of biodiverisity, it will include beetles, ants, fish, and more of everything, and i'm going to make a plants section too. -- 1892 Fitch Dude 17:20, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Please check this out, and check out the new (proposed) version [11]. If their new version meets with your approval, I would vote to go with it. Or perhaps you will have some strategic suggestions for improving it. if you do not like it I would like to know why, thanks Slrubenstein | Talk 22:37, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
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Be strong! I am on your side so the force is with you. ;) - Darwinek 10:29, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
thanks...pal :)
che 19:51, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Hehe, carnival....wish I could be there ;)-- Shanel 06:07, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
An organized consensus in regard to the Puerto Rican Spindalis has been placed at [1]. Please express your opinion. Tony the Marine 14:44, 27 February 2006 (UTC) (P.S. I love that carnival image)
I replied to your comment on User talk:Kasreyn. Qutezuce 20:44, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Guettarda, recently you posted on my talk page "bringing people here to stack a vote is considered meatpuppetry and is frowned upon." It now appears that Tony the Marine has done precisely that with his post above. This message went out only to people who supported his position on Puerto Rico. Pmsyyz and Sceptre were not invited. As a new user I want to follow Wikipedia's guidelines of behavior, but this is certainly a case where actions speak louder then words. What do you plan to do about Tony the Marine's action? Algr 09:13, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
There were too many "cooks" in there for awhile, some trying to cope with vandalism while others were editing. Thanks for your help. Sunray 18:15, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
I need as many comments like those as possible right now, I feel like i'm an inferior person, someone who's unable to communicate their thoughts to try and help the encyclopedia without pissing off the people they care about. If you can, please help me fix myself so I can become a better person, I love this place but I need to improve myself. I will assist you with anything I can do in any case, regardless of your reply. Karm a fist 20:27, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Dear Guettarda..i want to appologize 2 u .. coz last time i do some editing about portia...the prime minister of jamaica..i didn't realize that i put away your portia.. actually could u change the portia to your last 'portia'...is there anything that we can settle this..? please do not feel dumb... :(
che 01:12, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi Guettarda. I have begun a collaboration of the month for the Puerto Rico Wikiproject. The collaboration is Accentuation. I have created a template and a subpage for it. The template can be found at the top of the project and the details for the collaboration can be accessed through the navigation template or by clicking here. Please tell me what you think about all this. Joelito 22:41, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
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Thank you! Hi Guettarda/Archive13 thank you for your support in my Rfa! It passed with a final tally of 86/0/0. If you need help or just want to talk let me know! Again, thank you! – Dakota ~ ° 16:23, 3 March 2006 (UTC) |
Link fixed in Talk:Irreducible complexity, thank you.
Tabletop 02:08, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
(mv'd from your userpage: William M. Connolley 09:35, 4 March 2006 (UTC))
A few days ago I started to write an article for him. If possible, could you take a look at it before I move it to the article space? Any changes would, of couse, be appreciated :)-- Shanel 03:56, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
You seem confused about creationism and intelligent design. ID does not deny macroevolution; creationism does. Furthermore, you apparently do not realize that 'creationism' includes both young-earth and old-earth creationists, whereas the vast majority of ID theorists accept an old earth. ID also leaves open the question of who the designer is, unlike creationism, whether Christian or Muslim.
Furthermore, ID is not an offshoot of creationism. ID is rooted in the teleological argument, whereas creationism is rooted in revelation, whether through the Koran, Bible, or another holy book. This makes creationism and ID mutually exclusive on philosophical merits; one cannot be an offshoot of the other. Furthermore, the prominent proponents of ID, although often Christian, were never originally creationists. Therefore, calling ID an 'offshoot' of creationism is deceptive---besides being philosophically impossible.
Hope that helps. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Razzendahcuben ( talk • contribs)
1. You were never insulted. Let's move on with the discussion.
2. Actually, I did read a significant amount of the article. I will show that even by the article's own standards, ID should not be called creationism or vice versa.
First, the name of the article is "Creationism and Intelligent Design"---he got the dichotomy correct in one place, at least.
On p144, the Mr. Pennock says that one of the purposes of his article is to provide a typology to distinguish the different forms of antievolutionism. He's already off to a bad start. Antievolutionism is inaccurate because all creationists and ID theorists accept microevolution, and many accept macroevolution.
Once again, the 'definitions' portions begins with a glaring inaccuracy: 'In its basic generic sense, creationism refers to any view that rejects evolution in favor of the action of some personal, supernatural creator.' Mr. Pennock would include theistic evolutionists in this category, and yet in the next parapraph he writes that they should not be considered creationists. Also, if the involvement of a personal creator is the criteria, this immediately rejects any creationism not based on the Bible.
"On the other hand, not all religions are creationist. Many religions and theological traditions accept the scientific understanding of evolution and therefore are not forms of creationism. The Catholic Church and most mainline Protestant denominations, for instance, do not consider evolution to be in conflict with Christian faith, holding that God could have ordained the evolutionary mechanism as the process for creating the biological world."
According to this definition, theistic evolution (henceforth TE) and ID should NOT be considered creationist! Both TE and ID "do not consider evolution to be in conflict with the Christian faith, holding that God could have ordained the evolutionary mechanism as the process for creating the biological world."
Proceeding on, Mr. Pennock points out that OEC's and YEC's agree with each other on (macro)evolution but not geology and cosmology. In other words, they both accept a special creation that did not involve any macroevolution. Good. But ID and TE certainly do not fit this category.
On p145, Mr. Pennock writes, "The ID Movement was singled out by the AAAS board resolution as the new player in the creation/evolution controversy." New player---good. That's because it's not creationism wearing different clothes or playing a different tune, it's just a teleological argument that apposes naturalism.
On p145, Johnson is quoted as pointing out the real similarity between ID, OEC, and YEC: anti-naturalism. True, but anti-naturalism is a very, very low common denominator. This doesn't make ID a type of creationism any more than it makes witchcraft a type of Christianity. Remember, Mr. Pennock already defined 'creationism' as to disallow those who accept evolution---regardless of whether a creator was involved.
In conclusion, Mr. Pennock is having trouble pushing his own agenda to the point where he contradicts himself, so maybe this probably isn't the paper you want to refer to.
3. You are correct---most ID theorists are silent about the age of the earth and macroevolution, which is all the more reason to distinguish them from creationists, who never accept macroevolution and who do make specific claims about the age of the earth. My experience concerning the age of the earth has shown me that since the only players that make the earth's age a controversy are YEC's, and YEC's never call themselves ID theorists, therefore anyone who is not a YEC accepts an old earth. There might be an exception here or there, but I'm saying that you'll almost always find this to be true. Also, OEC includes progressive creationism and theistic evolution. TE is evolution, yes.
Concerning the age of the earth, check out http://www.reasons.org/resources/apologetics/notable_leaders/index.shtml Here you see a long list of ID theorists and anthropic principle proponents cited as believing in an old universe. Michael Behe is on the list saying,
Nonetheless, the Big Bang hypothesis was embraced by physics and over the years has proven to be a very fruitful paradigm. The point here is that physics followed the data where it seemed to lead, even though some thought the model gave aid and comfort to religion.
From the Discovery Institute's web site:
Moreover, theories of design involving the special creative act of an agent conceptualize that act as a causal event, albeit involving mental rather than purely physical antecedents. Indeed, design theories—whether posited by young-earth Genesis literalists, old-earth progressive creationists, theistic macromutationalists or religiously agnostic biologists—refer to antecedent causal events or express some kind of causal scenario just as, for example, chemical evolutionary theories do.
Notice that the common denominator mentioned is "design theories", which INCLUDES creationists. But calling ID creationist is a logical fallacy. At its core, ID is a design theory. For creationism, however, being a design theory is just one of its many distinguishing features. Calling the one the other is completely invalid. Since the differences are so large, we separate the two completely to avoid a misunderstanding of terms. ("We" refers to those who understand the differences.)
Here's some other useful information from the ID website www.y-origins.com:
Q. ARE INTELLIGENT DESIGN AND BIBLICAL CREATIONISM THE SAME?
A. Although materialists and the media often lump them together, their premise is so different that it’s like comparing apples and oranges. Biblical creationism looks at science through the lens of Genesis, whereas intelligent design draws its logical inferences about our origins from scientific discoveries without any such filter. It is actually the scientific discoveries that have led many scientists, such as Einstein, to believe in a super-intelligence behind the universe. Intelligent design advocates vary in their religious beliefs, and leave the identity of the designer to theologians. Biblical creationists specify the designer as the Judeo-Christian God (See Article 8).
Very good. The difference between ID and biblical creationism is SPECIAL REVELATION---something that ID NEVER can or will provide. It is philosophically impossible. Obviously this can and should be extended to any creationism, whether based on the Koran or another religion offering special revelation.
Q. HAS A DESIGNER GIVEN US CLUES THAT REVEAL WHAT HE IS LIKE?
A. Since the discovery that the universe had a beginning, scientists have been wrestling with the questions of who started it all, and why. Many of them believe that a designer not only exists, but has revealed himself to us in specific ways (See Article 8).
Once again, they point out the critical issue of revelation that totally distinguishes ID from creationism. Calling ID creationism is definitely a misunderstanding of terms.
Finally, to really drive the final nail in the coffin, read this article from Answers in Genesis (obviously die-hard YECs). Notice that the question of whether ID is creationist, or vice versa, is never even entertained because anyone familiar with the two knows that such a question is ridiculous. Instead we read of the "creation movement" and the "intelligent design movement"---an obvious dichotomy.
In conclusion, Wikipedia articles should be modified to demonstrate the following trichotomy:
creationism - The special creative act of organisms in the earth's history as revealed by a supernatural being. This includes progressive creationism and young-earth creationism (based on the Bible or Koran or some other special revelation).
intelligent design - Intelligent design is the concept that "certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection." Philosophically, this does include creationism, but the disinction must be kept because ID is foremostly a movement, not just a philosophy. The shared philosophy should be referred to as antievolutionism or anti-naturalism.
evolution - includes evolutionary naturalism, theistic evolution, any theory that holds to macroevolution
Razzendahcuben 16:30, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Your rudeness is amazing.
Given your lack of desire to engage in civil discourse, I have no intention of even reading the rest of your reply, let alone engaging in your little game. As I said before, I see very little point in having a conversation with you anyway, since you choose to cherry-pick tidbits out of context to support your position. Please find someone stupider to bother. Guettarda 18:33, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
CSD G4 says "A substantially identical copy, by any title, of a page that was deleted according to the deletion policy, except if it is in user space, or undeleted per the undeletion policy". I don't find the page to be substantially identical at all. It's a new creation, not an undeletion, so DRV isn't applicable either. Guettarda 18:56, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
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This user thinks it is ironic that thanks for supporting Cyde's successful RFA came in the form of a userbox. |
Here's a userbox for you. -- Cyde Weys 04:18, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
I disagree with some of these changes - conservation ecology is far narrower than conservation - conservation biology is broader than conservation ecology, but even that is a subset of "conservation" - conservation biology does not include much of the specifically socio-cultural aspects of conservation. Guettarda 03:44, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
I'm puzzled by the behavior of the anonymous user that keeps inserting "detachment", and "independence" into a introductory paragraph of the specified complexity article, making that paragraph practically useless. It is true that detachment and independence were characterizations of specification that Dembski used in earlier versions of his work, but which he subsequently dropped as characterizations. There were lots of reasons for his having done so. The particular way this user is trying to reinsert these concepts is completely erroneous (even on Dembski's own terms).
I'm not sure exactly how to proceed here. This cycle of reversion is not very productive, but mainly I don't want to place myself in the position of clarifying Dembski. -- CSTAR 19:33, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
You can volunteer on that page. Look at the three others who already volunteered and give likewise your credentials. I think it essential to have at least two from our Tree of Life-project on that board. I can't volunteer. I simply don't have the credentials. But I hope others will volunteer too. The field we cover, biology, is so broad, that we need all the experts we can get on that board. Good luck. JoJan 19:11, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
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Hello, I'm trying (again) to get The George Washington University moved to George Washington University. Since you weighed in on this when it came up last year, I thought you might like to weigh in again. john k 23:30, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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On the latest meta template. - Roy Boy 800 18:10, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Hey, Guettarda. I trust you've been well and that you enjoyed Carnival. (Hell, who doesn't?)
I've been back a few weeks now. I started just watching blackface and a few "pet" articles -- and now it seems I'm back. Maybe not as much as in the past. (But I hate to see black folk misrepresented and, like it or not this site is seeing a lot of use. The abjectly stubborn ignorance/obtuseness of many editors is still simply downright appalling.)
But to the subject of my note. JustforaSecond is insisting on a really tacky treatment of Dellums' family life. He's repeatedly reverted a more reasonable treatment with, I'm certain, ulterior motives. (Dellums is currently involved in an election bid for mayor of Oakland.) Another admin stepped in for a while, but apparently has abandoned the piece. I came to the article because someone visited my user page and requested I stop by. I deleted an entire, silly segment complaining about $125/plate fundraisers (when politicos routinely charge $1,000 and up.)
When you have a moment, I'd appreciate it if you'd stop by and take a look. I've just skimmed the entire article, and it's full of inane stuff that about the current campaign cycle that really has no place in an encyclopedia. The site should not be used as a political tool by someone with an axe to grind.
Thanks. Peace. Deeceevoice 08:30, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Never mind. I put it on the Admin. notice board -- which, I realize, was the best thing to do. Deeceevoice 13:52, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Hello, this is Kirk Meighoo. I have found the answer to the dispute about the WIFLP. It is the West Indies Federal Labour Party. My book is indeed in error. On the talk page, you will see a longer note of explanation. Thanks for pointing out the discrepancy, which went unnoticed elsewhere.
64.28.135.2 22:25, 17 March 2006 (UTC) Kirk Meighoo
Thanks for the many improvements to the Mount Saint Benedict stub. I'm wondering about searching on "St" and "Saint". A search on "Mount Saint Benedict" brings up the page, while "Mount St Benedict" doesn't find it. Daisy2 18:18, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
Your last comment in the workshop is under comments by Arbitrators. JoshuaZ 16:51, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
Btw, any idea when you are going to put diffs in for your second assertion on the evidence page? I'm somewhat anxious for this RfA to hurry up, since it looks like Felonious, Jim and I are about to have another RfA (this time with Benapgar) and two RfAs at once would probably put me at my wikistress limits. JoshuaZ 06:38, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
It may make sense to communicate this to Felonious since he seems to put a lot of time into RfAs, maybe he could do the other sections. Also, the Benapgar RfA will probably be a breeze, so I think it makes more sense to put time and effort into the Agapetos arb for now. (I may be strategizing too much here) JoshuaZ 07:05, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Especially after what Ben just did on the RfA page. JoshuaZ 07:05, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. Electionworld = Wilfried ( talk 20:16, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
How do you know he watches both pages? You must be a sockpuppet of Felonious! JoshuaZ 07:15, 22 March 2006 (UTC) (and I should probably clarify for Agapetos that this is a joke)
Dear Guettarda (beautiful name, genus of Rubiaceae), the question is not the discussion in itself, but the fact of having to leave of Wikipedia to discuss. As for Lauraceae, I understand very well, it is one of the families challenge for any taxonomist (the greatest of them, which more understood of this subject in every time was Nees). Berton 14:40, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi,
We started a proposal Wikipedia:Wikiethics to state the existing policies coherently and make suggestions on improving the editorial standards in Wiki. I thought you might be interested in contributing to that proposal.
Unfortunately, a pro-porn and pro-offense lobby is trying to make this proposal a failure. They unilaterally started an approval poll although almost no one including me believe that it is time for a vote, simply because the policy is not ready. It is not even written completely.
Editors who thinks that the policy needs to be improved rather than killed by an unfair poll at the beginning of the proposal, started another poll ('Do we really need a poll at this stage?') at the same time. The poll is vandalized for a while but it is stable now. A NO vote on this ('Do we really need a poll now?') poll will strengthen the position of the editors who are willing to improve the ethics policy further.
If you have concerns about the ethics and editorial standards in Wiki, please visit the page Wikipedia:Wikiethics with your suggestions on the policy. We have two subpages: Arguments and Sections. You might want to consider reviewing these pages as well...
Thanks in advance. Resid Gulerdem 00:53, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
We're having some slight trouble with an anom, at Peter Ruckman. See [3], [4], and [5]. It would be helpful if you maybe could have an admin word with him. JoshuaZ 23:24, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
If you could format slightly more your March 10, 15:17 comment that ends "Wikipedia is not a suicide pact" I'd appreciate it. Its quite eloquent but could use some sort of paragraph divisions. JoshuaZ 04:28, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
I know you are interested in christianity, and I recently started a new wiki over at wikicities which is on the subject of christianity. Christian Knowledge Base is the site.
The goal is to have a knowledgebase on christianity from a distinctly "C(hristian)POV" rather than the NPOV. It is not meant to be a mere Christian Encyclopedia, but to foster a real sense of community. I'd like to include things like current events, news, stories, and anything that would add to both an understanding of Christianity, but also its enjoyment. I'm looking for help to build a resource that could really enrich the lives of Christians.
I know you are busy but I am actively seeking new sysops/admins to help me build this site up, and I would be positively thrilled if you could contribute in any capacity whatsoever. nsandwich 05:51, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi Guettarda - could you take a look in on its talk page, please; there's 2 or 3 people (who haven't even contributed to the page at all!) are trying to move it to Tamarack, without the indication of genus affiliation. I think this is very unhelpful for indexing and categorisation. - Thanks, MPF 13:54, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
Have you considered starting a WikiProject on the Caribbean or maybe a discussion on the Ecology of the Caribbean? Joelito 18:30, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
It appears you are defending false representation of facts. Please consider whether you consider the bureaucratic processes of an organization that claims there are no rules more important than accurate,neutral factual representations. ! 172.193.9.65 08:20, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
I'm happy to see your User Page up again. I just finished my latest article African immigration to Puerto Rico, tell me what you think. Your friend Tony the Marine 17:14, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
Hello,
An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Marcosantezana. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Marcosantezana/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Marcosantezana/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, -- Tony Sidaway 18:10, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
Indigenous does not mean the same as endemic - indigenous means native to an area, endemic means restricted to an area. Guettarda 23:06, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi. I have created a template for Trinidad and Tobago topics. I have boldly added it to the Trinidad and Tobago page. I am not very knowledgable on T&T topics so feel free to edit it and add relevant topics to it. Take care. Joelito 20:42, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
I tried to simply edit the article in accordance with Wikipedia's external link policy. The spam links were reinstated. -- Brothergrimm 05:58, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for the wonderful shiny cluster barnstar & the words on it. I'm touched William M. Connolley 11:19, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Could this thing be any cuter? This is my other little devil.
· Katefan0 (scribble)/ poll 18:27, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Some of us in here (2% of Americans, for example) are allergic! *Atchoo*! Lovely kitties, though... *sniff* -- User:RyanFreisling @ 21:37, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Ok, made the change, thanks for the tip. By the way, what do you think of the evidence? JoshuaZ 02:01, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
If you didn't know yet, I'm going to Barbados in less than an hour. I won't be with you Wikipedians for the next six days...so wish me luck on that Green Card! -- Slgrandson 17:22, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for rving the vandalism on my user page. If you happen to rv vandalism there again, feel free to up the vandal counter by 1. JoshuaZ 22:36, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
Would you mind commenting again, here [6]? Nothing has really changed, but the alternatives (Axel vs. KimVLinde vs. Marcos) are more clearly defined and explained. I'd value your opinion. Slrubenstein | Talk 13:15, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi I., I don't blame you. But the link you provided is only 2/3 of the story. If the link I provide above works, you just need to go down to Gleng's 11:42 comment, which is at the bottom (right now, it is followed only by a brief comment from me). Gleng sums up the three alternatives pretty neatly. Slrubenstein | Talk 13:36, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi. I have just created a new article in which I must admit I copied your List of snakes of Trinidad and Tobago layout. I hope you do not mind. I should have asked you first. Anyways I would be honored if you would check it out and comment on it. The article is List of amphibians and reptiles of Puerto Rico. Take care. Joelito 17:58, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
Thank you. I think I confused everything, sorry. Berton 18:41, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
If you're going to have userboxes, Guettarda, that's the way to do it. Very tasty. -- Hoary 06:37, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Don't forget to meta-moderate other users' moderations. -- Cyde Weys 17:04, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Fehht, I got you on the meta. -- Cyde Weys 17:11, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
I very much appreciate your observation about the incident with Rhobite. Hopefully it is in the past. -- User:RyanFreisling @ 08:53, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your vote of confidence in my recent request for bureaucratship. Even though it didn't pass, I greatly appreciate your support and hope I will continue to have your respect. Thank you! Flcelloguy ( A note?) 23:04, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your support vote on my RFA. The final result was a successful request based on 111 support and 1 oppose. -- CBDunkerson 18:04, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
Guettarda, No, I did not nominate it because I'm offended by Duncharris. I did it because I repeatedly asked for a notability proof, but didn't get any. I tagged the article on 12th march or so, but the article didn't have anything in it since then to justify the notability of the subject. As for the Brittanica reference, I don't see any facts added to the article from the reference. I looked up the link provided, and it didn't provide any information other than the one liner.
So, the bottom line is, of course Duncharris has crossed the lines of decency a lot, but even disregarding that, the article does not provide any notability proof. I hope I've made my position clear. I'd have done the same for any other one liner article without any proof of notability, regardless of whether or not the original author of the page has been extremely rude to requests for references. Thanks. -- Ragib 20:54, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
You stated, "What is the value of adding a direct link to the monarch's website? There's nothing specific there to Jamaica, Barbados, etc. The page already links to the Wikipedia article on the monarch - there's no point to this link. Guettarda 19:48, 5 April 2006 (UTC)"
You are not reading my comments clearly. At no point did I say that you had no understanding of the monarchy; I said it may not seem important to you. Please answer my question and show me how to tell what level of 'admin' are you? Scotwood72
I don't remember if we have talked about this but, I'd like you to consider taking a postion on the IW Board of Regents. Unlike the HCBU project it would not require you to give out your name. Please respond as soon as possible. - JCarriker 03:22, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi Guettarda. Thanks so much for trying to help... I was caught in an ip autoblock and couldn't get the help of any admins. I emailed a couple, with no luck so I tried the block template but forgot my ip would be needed. In any case, I'm on a different ip now, so no problems any longer. Cheers and thanks again, Mikker "the dodgy Afrikaner" Pikker. :) ( Mikker (...) 08:05, 7 April 2006 (UTC))
Hello, Guettarda. This is about the wikify tag on ecological effects of biodiversity. In the edit summary, you said, the "article still does not conform to the structure of a wikipedia rticle - it's still an essay." I do not disagree that the article needs work. However, I believe that this is an issue that is better suited for a general cleanup tag, perhaps a rewrite tag if it is really bad, rather than a wikify tag. The article has many links and the subject is bolded (I guess I forgot to check if it was categorized, d'oh, but I just put it in Category:Biodiversity). These are the things that wikification takes care of. What do you think? I'm going offline in a minute, so I won't be able respond right away. Also, you can respond here. Thanks, Kjkolb 13:21, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Yup, in the end, I am just a hardcore ecologist :-) KimvdLinde 01:01, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
Howdy Guettarda . Hope things are well that side of the Atlantic... A couple of other editors and I are working on getting Richard Dawkins ready for WP:FAC. Could you please have a look? Richard_Dawkins#Evolutionary_biology is unsatisfactory, IMO, and stuff needs to be added about The Extended Phenotype. Help would be appreciated! Mikker (...) 18:44, 11 April 2006 (UTC) (note: I'm also asking dave souza to have a look...)
Thanks for your comments at History of Earth, Guettarda; I always value your advice. Do you have any suggestions on how I can improve the article further? I've been working on it for months, and would eventually like it to be a featured article. — Knowledge Seeker দ 00:35, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
I have nominated Category:Cricket subcategories for deletion here. This is just a courtesy note because you took part in an earlier inconclusive debate on the same subject, and may wish to comment on this one. If you're not interested, please forgive the intrusion. Stephen Turner ( Talk) 12:18, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
thanks, Slrubenstein | Talk 18:26, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
Hey, Guettarda. Thanks for your comments. I've reconsidered my position, which was based on an earlier approach I had to the article. I don't know if you recall, but when I proposed and worked on Cool in its earliest stages, it included the African origins. Encountering opposition from people who knew of the concept in only the pop culture concept, I left the article and started Cool (African philosophy). I've stated on the talk page of the latter that I am in favor of merging the two articles, based on my original approach to the subject matter. But I've since then, I've rethought that statement in light of the subsequent reading I've done. It makes no sense. And particularly because Wikipedia has such a paucity of articles dealing with Africa, I think it's importnat that it remain separate. But -- again -- because of collateral damage from a block of someone, I'm unable to make my thoughts known on the VfD page. I'd appreciate you posting my comments there. It seems that more academicians refer to cool as simply an "African aesthetic," so I propose renaming the article "Cool (African aesthetic)". I suggest that Cool (aesthetic) be renamed "Cool (pop culture aesthetic)" to distinguish between the two.
That may seem clumsy, but it's what comes to mind. What do you think? Deeceevoice 21:15, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
Do me a favor, please, and post the following for me on the AfD page -- since I can't get through:
Thanks! :) Deeceevoice 21:37, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
Saw you posted my comment. Thanks again. I can edit the page now, so I've included some additional material there and on the discussion page. Peace. Deeceevoice 07:03, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
A question. I'm afraid my delayed access/inability to post to the AfD page in a timely fashion because of the collateral block may have skewed the vote so far. Is there a better means of calling attention to the AfD? I'm confident that if other, more objective people weigh in after reading the material I've provided, the vote will be to keep the piece. Any suggestions? Also, I'm fed up with the constant campaigning to delete this piece. After all, this makes the third or fourth attempt, the last as late as December (I think). When does this crap stop? Deeceevoice 14:40, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
Nice to hear from you. Things have been up and down (in Wikipedia terms), though an unplanned Wikibreak of nearly a month in December/January helped. I'm trying to keep my editing down in order to get some work done on my next book and various papers — in which I've been partially successful...
I see from your User page that you share my worries about the state of Wikipedia; do call on me any time for help in that direction. Nil illegitimi carborumdum! -- Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης) 21:49, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
I've replaced the tree image with a larger file, thanks, jimfbleak 05:15, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
The blanket statement alledging that Dembski's response to his critics is 'polemic' is a slur. Unless you have access to every single response he has ever written, such a blanket statement is nothing more than an ad hominum attack. The entire tone of that section is hostile toward Dembski and needs to be fixed.
Propositions on the /Workshop page are rather tentative. Fred Bauder 12:36, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Hello, thanks for your message about the history deletions. Will this method work for versions that occur after the problem version? For example, if versions 1, 2, 3, 4 are fine, then problem version 5 is created, then version 6 is included which includes the problem content in version 5, but adds new content which is not problematic, how do I keep the good content in version 6 without reintroducing the bad content from version 5? It seems that version 6 contains both (a) bad content leftover from version 5 and (b) new, good content unique to version 6 that therefore needs to be preserved. Johntex\ talk 23:13, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
I set up a new trial here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Johntex/Sandbox_Delete_Test
Would you like to test it on this new version?
Johntex\
talk 00:13, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Please see the discussion about the new role of the board and the new charter here. Thanks. - JCarriker 22:33, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
Non-existent article? SP-KP 19:05, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
Apologies for the brief nature of the message above, which caused confusion - this was a response to your comment about the Trinidadian article being non-existent. It isn't now. Now that I have finished what I was in the middle of doing, rather than still being in the middle of it, I'd appreciate a second pair of eyes looking at it to check it is OK. Please do let me know if there are tasks remaining to be done. Also, if there is a standard way to indicate while I am making a series of inter-related edits that a task such as this is in mid-flow, could you let me know, so that I can use it in future, to avoid interruptions. SP-KP 19:24, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
What indications do we have that Dembski's phone call to the DHS resulted in Pianka's investigation? Dembski said on his blog that the DHS was already aware of Pianka when he called, so saying that hsi call 'resulted in' Pianka's investigation is purely speculative, and worse for the wear considering what Dembski said.
Do you have a content-related reason for this reversion, or is it just out of objection to the process? I believe there's lots of support for the redirect here. Friday (talk) 18:49, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
I was not edit warring on the article. I never edited that article. I was merely carrying out the consensus of the AfD. And do you really want to talk about "inappropriate"? How about editing a protected page? User:Zoe| (talk) 00:47, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
With nineteen external links there already, I thought that yet another one was link-farming (in fact, the others could do with being slimmed down a bit, as per Wikipedia:External links). -- Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης) 13:37, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Nah, it's actually "Shanel," although you wouldn't be the first person to read it that way. I'm actually in high school right now, although I would have liked to go to Naps. :D-- Shanel § 18:13, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
That you are so easily disturbed. User:Zoe| (talk) 01:47, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Hey. :)
A note to thank you for your reasoned voice in the recent VfD and DR matters. I see that Zoe's wholly improper redirect of Cool (African philosophy) to Cool (aesthetic) also has been undone. :)
Tell me, how does one go about getting the text in Cool (African philosophy) restored for possible later use/working reference in African aesthetic?
I also note that User:Zoe is continuing her edit warring with the insertion of an NPOV/unreferenced tag at African aesthetic -- and I've removed it. She affixed it with absolutely no discussion, and the material is, in fact, referenced. She needs to give it a rest and move on. deeceevoice 11:39, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
H-m-m. I may have gotten my "cool" articles mixed up, but I thought when I tried to access it earlier via the page history, I could get only as far as the recent blanking and redirects. But I just tried it, and I pulled it up. Thanks. deeceevoice 12:39, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Given that I've said several times during this that I could care less if someone is green with stripes, was this intended to be pointing the bone at me? If it was don't be too shy to tell me, always better to have things out in the open and I'm fairly hard to offend.
brenneman
{L} 05:16, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
It seemed like the more appropriate name, although I am unaware of any other place named Banwari Trace. Yes, I was refering to the American places naming convention when I moved the article, even though it's not in America. Not really sure about if it is the rule for other articles, but maybe someone should bring it up in the future so furthur disamb. can happen for other articles. You can change it back of course, or mention it on the talk page. Moe ε 15:54, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for supporting my RfA. ¡PAZ!-- Rockero 00:53, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Hello Guettarda/Archive13. It is my intent to begin a Collaboration of the month for the Puerto Rico Wikiproject. I have suggested Politics of Puerto Rico and Economy of Puerto Rico as options for the collaboration for May. Please leave suggestions or comments on the talk page or vote for any of the choices I have suggested. Take care. Joelito 16:46, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
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Dear Guettarda, I really appreciate your vote and your kind words in my RFA. It has passed with an unexpected 114/2/2 and I feel honored by this show of confidence in me. Cheers! ← Humus sapiens ну? 04:30, 26 April 2006 (UTC) |
I must respectfully disagree; TrueOrigins references TalkOrigins on its front page. It contains numerous conversations involving the authors of TalkOrigins which are not to be found elsewhere. It contains many articles which were written solely and explicitly as responses to articles in TalkOrigins, and are quite pertinent to the publication in question (for example, see "Five Major Evolutionist Misconceptions about Evolution" [8]). As it is probably TalkOrigins biggest detractor, it deserves mention somewhere. If you prefer, it could be referenced in the article. Furthermore, it's hardly "link farming" when this is the only article I've added the link to (and the only one I intend to). It is not my creation, nor am I involved in it in any way or form. I appreciate your concerns about link-farming, though; it's something I've run into before. The Jade Knight 05:17, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi Guettarda, I suspect you may already have spotted my major overhaul of Climax Community. It had both some nutty stuff, and some more moderate but still not accurate stuff on Clements especially. So I just decided it was time to fix it. It's not perfect yet, but it's better I hope. So, any comments you have, I'd be happy for! (Also, I noticed that there's a user who's commented on your page called "che". Hmm. That's not me, for the record. Best, Chris CHE 05:22, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soca_Warriors_Supporters_Club_aka_%22The_Warrior_Nation%22
hi i need some assistance how come my page cant be displayed for other people to view? thanks S.W.S.C 00:55, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
Hello friend, do you remember me? In the month of September 2005, your vote had made me an administrator. we all know that the life here is exciting and full of challenges. I would request you to please spare fem moments for me, and favor me with your comments and suggestions ( here please) on my performance as a wikipedian. Let us continue to build the Better than the Best global encyclopedia. Thank you and regards. -- Bhadani 09:56, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I never came to thank you for the message you left for me a month ago when I stepped down from being a bureaucrat. Thank you for the things you said, it's good to know there are still plenty of good people about in this project. I do not see myself standing for bureaucrat again anytime soon though who knows what the future may bring! Thank you once again. --
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I wanted to stop by and thank you for your constructive criticism of my RFA. It's helped, and is helping, to improve me as a wikipedian and an editor. I look forward to gaining your support in the future. Until then, keep on keepin on. ⇒ SWATJester Ready Aim Fire! 19:29, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
This arbitration case has closed. Agapetos angel et al. are banned from editing Jonathan Sarfati and associated articles. The opposing editors (Duncharris, Guettarda, Jim62sch, and FeloniousMonk) are warned concerning NPOV and edit warring. Any user banned by this decision who violates the ban may be briefly blocked, up to a week in the event of repeat offenses. After 5 blocks the maximum ban shall increase to one year. For further information, please see the arbitration case. On behalf of the arbitration committee, Johnleemk | Talk 18:19, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
Please do not add frivolous tags as you did to my edit of "Media Matters." While I can compromise on your deletion of what you perceive as my "non-neutral" language I simply will not stand for un-needed "source" tags WHEN I PROVIDED A SOURCE! Stanley011 02:12, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm quite familiar with the policy and do not believe I am in violation of it in any way--I did not create those posts--they were sourced directly from the Media Matters website. I will, however, in the interests of appeasement, look for independent sources to confirm the obvious. In the meanwhile, please do not delete my edit. Stanley011 03:21, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi Guettarda, yes it's been a while since we've spoken - thanks for keeping in touch! :) Things are pretty good for me, although I suspect I'm going to have to cut down a little on the time I spend on WP (I've just landed myself yet another part-time job, which means I'm shuffling between three of them now. Just a few hours per week, but it all eats into the time). Hope things are well with you in the Caribbean - I suppose T&T is busy gearing up for the World Cup in a few weeks! Grutness... wha? 03:54, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
I can't explain the Lesser Antillean Saltator. It was on the first creation of this page, which is basically the Avibase list. Checking on Avibase this a.m., it appears to have been replaced now by Streaked Saltator. Since I know nothing at all about L A Saltator, I assume it is an Avibase error which they have corrected. jimfbleak 05:12, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
There is a discussion on the talk page. To remove the tag within two minutes because you disagree with it - something Ryan explcitly did - is POV pushing vandalism, and you know it. Phil Sandifer 04:41, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
By what standard? Phil Sandifer 04:59, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
i don't know how to change the linece to fair use... Crushtheturtle 21:41, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
ok. i added the sources Crushtheturtle 21:48, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
thanks! yes i am trini! Crushtheturtle 02:21, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi there! Greetings! Great to hear from you again! I was writing a couple of articles on "slavery", "blackbirding" and "coolies", etc., recently (I think all this history needs to be much better known) and this got me back to Trinidadian-related subjects (it always makes me so homesick! Although I was born in Canada and live in Australia, I always think of Trinidad as "home").
My wife is working late tonight so I got going - first adding "liming" to the Wiktionary. Then I put some old B&W photos and text, into articles on hosay, steelpan, T&T Carnival, the Bearded Bellbird, Nariva Swamp (with a photo of me as a young fellow!!!), centipedes, boa constrictors (photo of me again wrestling with a boa!!! ;^), yellow fever, and now a fairly long one on that amazing scientist and exceptional human being, Wilbur (Will) Downs.
What a night I've had - so many memories! Yes, sometime I will attempt an article on the Virus Lab. But it is such a big subject and I was so young then - I really wasn't aware of all that was going on although I worked trained there as a Lab. Assistant and Field Assistant most of my school holidays between about 1954 and 1960. What a priviledged life I lived!
If you have a look at any of these entries i would greatly appreciate any comments you might have. Also, I have asked people how I should tag photos my father took and left to me for copyright purposes. I have been using "Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike 2.5 License" but I am not convinced this is correct. Do you know what I should be using? Well, I had better stop here as you "User Talk" section is apparently getting toolong (or so it says at the top). I send you my very best wishes. Cheers, John Hill
Thank you for the feedback about unlinking for disambiguation on the term juvenile. I was doing this based upon my interpretation of the instructions for disambiguation. Instruction #6 says, "Also, when the link refers to a general meaning of the word, for which there is no relevant article, removing may be the most sensible option." Just let me know the best way to do this. It was my first effort at contributing. At the very least, I can go back and relink the term juvenile to the disambiguation page where I unlinked.
I do have a question. Maybe it's better if I ask it some where else. If so, point me in the right direction. When I'm doing disambiguation but the available definitions do not seem adequate, what is the best course of action? I left a talk note on the juvenile page. Is that the right way to do that or is the another way?
Thanks.
Please comment on my question at Talk:Juvenile Simon12 04:14, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
He, no worry. I can laugh about my own funky typo’s! :-) On a side note, I am busy with a new page for natural selection. Gleng is helping me (catching my typo's and grammar shit). It is not finished yet, but it you like to help, User:KimvdLinde/Natural selection is the place to be. Kim van der Linde it's a girl 00:48, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Hey my good friend, how are you? I've been working on a "Puerto Rican immigration series" and I wanted you to check one of my articles: African immigration to Puerto Rico. Tell me what you think of it. Take care Tony the Marine 01:14, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Please be careful when restoring the text you deleted, since editing is continuing.-- Poodleboy 21:46, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Hullo. The declaration that consensus had been reached seems to have been somewhat premature [and without consensus]. Thanks for bringing it to my attention, tho. Cheers, Tom e r talk 08:12, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
Personal attacks deleted] Blainetologist 15:52, 11 May 2006 (UTC) pointing out someone harassing me is not a "personal attack." Blainetologist 15:56, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
Yawn your still trying to twist it to say things it doesn't say and claim I did something I didn't. Blainetologist 16:19, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
See User:Blainetologist. According to Essjay he's Enviroknot. Guettarda 13:32, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
On the Juan Cole page, "the two of you seem to have stepped off the deep end into paranoia" is a personal attack. elizmr 20:35, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
As an editor with personal experience of this editor and situation, I thought you'd find this interesting: [9].
The animals section is not finished, yet, plus look at the to do list in the talk page, it say for examples of biodiverisity, it will include beetles, ants, fish, and more of everything, and i'm going to make a plants section too. -- 1892 Fitch Dude 17:20, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Please check this out, and check out the new (proposed) version [11]. If their new version meets with your approval, I would vote to go with it. Or perhaps you will have some strategic suggestions for improving it. if you do not like it I would like to know why, thanks Slrubenstein | Talk 22:37, 13 May 2006 (UTC)