So here's a Wiki Thanks to Gamaliel!
Tell me what you think. Mike H 11:54, Feb 25, 2005 (UTC)
Do you have any idea what is going on with the Killian Documents article? The whole complex just got moved, lock, stock, and barrel, to "CBS Documents" by M. E. Smith. I was under the assumption that last year's name change vote came in against using that title. -- Ray Radlein 23:40, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)
I need to report to you the user, "Keith-Wigdor". Here is the URL, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Votes_for_deletion/Keith_Wigdor Classicjupiter2 00:36, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Wikipedia was already given notice of this impersonator by the artist Keith Wigdor at the artenligne website. User Allyunion even warned the user, "Keith-Wigdor" to stop impersonating the artist. The user contributions that you will see made by this imposter, "Keith-Wigdor" are highly innappropriate. Classicjupiter2 18:07, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Gamaliel, can you permantely remove the following abuse of Wikipedia by this impersonator at the following page, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:North_American_Man-Boy_Love_Association As you will see the impersonator, user, "Keith-Wigdor" is using the Wikipedia service to commit slander against the artist. Please prevent this person who is commiting this abuse to stop. Classicjupiter2 18:18, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Gamaliel, I need to report abuse. There is a new user who is already abusing the Wikipedia servcie and abusing the artist, here take a look,
"Hey everyone, I know that I'm a first-time wiki editor, so I don't feel entitled to vote, but at least I wanted to show some support towards my big brother, Keith. What I wanted to ask the wiki-administrators was whether or not wikipedia has a paid-inclusion program. What I mean is that I'd like to pay you some money in order for Keith to keep his article going. I can understand why people reading this page might think that this just more sock-puppet antics, but if you check my IP address, you'll see that I'm sending this from Boston. KEITH WIGDOR IS THE GREATEST!!!!!! --Nancy-Wigdor 18:09, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)"
Gamaliel, most likely these are prankster friends of the user Bleedy, but I need to let you know that this abuse is now on-going and immediate action should be taken to prevent the abuse of Wikipedia and the artist. Classicjupiter2 19:05, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Hi Gamaliel.
You don't have to delete the redirects to edit the articles. There are detailed instructions here on Meta.
Briefly, follow the Bo Bice link. When you're redirected to American Idol, the message "(redirected from Bo Bice)" appears at the top of the American Idol page. Click on the Bo Bice link in that message, and you can then edit the Bo Bice article. Don't ask me if they need articles, though. :) -- TenOfAllTrades | Talk 01:12, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I don't, on reflection, care enough to challenge the deletion of [[:Category:Television programs based on Milestone Comics]], but it would have been nice to have been offered the opportunity. -- Paul A 06:18, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I'm curious: why did you take out the caption of the picture on the Katzenjammer Kids? It seemed OK to me. - DavidWBrooks 20:56, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I feel it is more frustrating, in fact, to deal with an administrator on a power trip than it is do deal with vandalism. If you feel I have done something wrong, please cite the wrong and refrain from making threats. Thank you. if i knew how to sign I would....unsigned comment from User:Zach4000
Haha. That was funny wasn't it? I think it was. Therefore, it was a power trip. Zach4000.
What vandalism? Perhaps you have the wrong person? -- Dermers Ladder 08:53, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Yes they are. You better unblock him! -- 219.77.244.55 09:04, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Please remove the copyvio. I have permission from both the Forgotten Tao Foundation and Dr. Stephen Chang to use the biography from http://www.bodhibooksellers.com/tao/bio.html which is his event website linked to, from his foundation http://www.thegreattao.com/. This is the most comprehensive bio for Dr. Chang. Thanks again.
Ok. I work with the Director of the Forgotten Tao Foundation on a regular basis and I can supply permission via email from both him and possibly Dr. Chang himself. Additionally, I have ftp access to http://www.bodhibooksellers.com/tao/ which I can prove very easily right now because I added you username to the bottom of this bio page. If that's not good enough for you please pass that on to the other party.
When will this inaccurate copyvio be removed?
Thanks for having commented at User:JamesMLane/Rexlog, but I'm left unsure of the facts. I want to make sure I get it right to present to the ArbCom. Did you block him once, partly for vandalizing Neutrality's user page and partly for his 3RR violation? Or did you block him for 24 hours for the vandalism, and then, after his return, block him again for another 24 hours for the 3RR? If it's the latter, I'd like to include a link for the first block, if one is available. Feel free to answer here or just by editing the draft complaint, whatever you prefer. Thanks for your help. (BTW, it's only by coming to your user page to leave this comment that I found the Chicago Sun-Times article mentioning Lee Harvey Oswald. Congratulations on the recognition! Of course, now I can't resist the temptation to make a few minor cleanups there. Damn Wikicrack, I had other plans for today....) JamesMLane 16:35, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for uploading Image:Timeisgoddead.jpg and for stating the source. However, its copyright status is unclear, so it may have to be deleted. If it is open content or public domain, please give proof of this on the image page. If the image is fair use, please provide a rationale. Thank you. -- cohesion ☎ 09:38, Mar 28, 2005 (UTC)
Your "sandbox" subpage contains a category link to a category I'm cleaning up. If you decide to make this a real page, please change {{music-stub}} to {{album-stub}}. Thanks. -- Wahoofive 22:52, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I really screwed up here. I didn't know I was making changes to the server, I thought I was just making local changes to what I was seeing. It won't happen anymore. comment from User:192.146.101.24
I didn't have any concept of what Wikipedia was or how it works. I never saw the part that said, "Welcome to Wikipedia, the free-content encyclopedia that anyone can edit." I'm feeling pretty stupid now, but I've signed up for an account under the name Key West. Now that I understand how this works, I think this is the coolest idea I've ever seen, and I really, truly apologize for my unintentional vandalism.
I will endeavor to contribute legitimate information only in the future, starting with a donation. comment from User:Key West
Refusing a polite request for help with the response: "I am not your fucking monkey" is a personal attack. Obsessively following me round Wikipedia and reverting my sensible contribution to the Impotence pages is also an attack - dare I say it, an attack that is planned and slightly worrying. You continue to flout Wikipedia:No personal attacks - even to the point of (wrongly) accusing me of spamming the Sollog page when I in fact posted a very small extract, a link and a quotation from an independent source. Let's face it, you're not the slightest bit interested in me making positive contributions. You just want to hound me from Wiki which given this is (obviously) a pseudonym and I may have several others, means your crusade is against ...what? All rather sad. Naturally you'll delete this as that's the kind of Wikipedia:No personal attacks behaviour you follow. The Number 13:47, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Maybe you don't realise what you're saying; maybe you just don't care. Your list adjectives (to the point of having 'insidious' and 'ulterior motives') points to your lack of competence as an Editor. Editors throughout Wikipedia struggle to maintain a NPOV. One of the aims is to produce and update an online encyclopedia that is free from bias, that is carefully create and maintained. Not one of your rather carelessly chosen descriptions could in any way apply to my posts on the 'Impotence' page and yet.... and yet they were deleted not by a regular Editor there but one of the team of stalkers (Pomeroy) who clearly does not understand how an aphrodoisiac could be of use to someone suffering from impotence. One of my major criticisms of Editors (not in general, just some I have 'met') is that the very aims they aspire to - rationality, accuracy, method - they constantly fall short of because of their emotional responses to anonymous Editors. Interesting too that you refer to me as a troll (you in fact mean [4])in that, as you admit, you and others with the same views, follow me around, Editing/deleting my posts, possibly without even reading (Wyss even sought praise because she hadn't read the Edit she reverted - how's that for rationality!) Calling me a troll makes assumptions about my motives that are impossible to determine. Such an assumption would generally be an example of the fundamental attribution error; i.e. inferring that behaviour results from a person's nature or personality rather than examining behaviour in the context of events surrounding the behaviour. In other words, trolling may have more to do with context than with personality. You raise the topic of credibility. I would not want the type of credibility that would allow me to flout Wikipedia rules; I would not want the type of credibility that seems so necessary for those with Barnstars etc. I Edit as I see fit, for the greater good. You say no-one wishes to associate with me - I strongly suspect that IF someone did (eg Sollogfan) s/he would simply be labelled by the irrational Editors as a troll/sockpuppet etc. Amusingly, when Sollogfan joined the gaggle against me he was then labelled as my sockpuppet! I laughed out loud when I saw that! As is so often the case I have disproved the few clear statements you have made - and again I do that for your own good. You agree you're biased. Bias should play no part in Editing here - deal with the content, not the poster. In short, deal with your own limitations that are becoming increasingly obvious to all except those who, because of bias, do not wish to see. The Number 00:25, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Gamaliel, though the effort is valiant, it will never be fruitful. As amusing it is for me to watch The Number provide even more reams of damning diffs that I can collect at User:Saxifrage/Userwatch#The Number, I personally think you should take the advice you gave to Wyss and start ignoring him. He has no interest in responding rationally or bringing any conflict to an end. Rather, he only does it to gather material to better mimick the behaviour of esteemed editors and to use against you. Besides, you don't really need to defend yourself against his accusations: he has no ability to rally support against anyone, let alone an admin. — Saxifrage | ☎ 01:39, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Dr Zen/keepschools. You may want to subst your recent use of User:Gamaliel/S at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/St. Joseph's Secondary School before it turns into a similar circus. (Or you may want to let someone vfd it, too, and grind your teeth together in frustration as everyone who votes "keep, user space" for Dr Zen's version remains mysteriously silent for yours.) Just letting you know. — Korath ( Talk) 15:37, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)
This new comment was posted in one of my talk page archives and moved here by me:
Gamaliel,
I took the blue pencil to the Discussion section, in re The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_Tribune-Review) because it was obvious that material that was offensive, erroneous and, frankly, libelous continued to appear there, and that search engines could pick it up.
If it's not good enough for the encyclopedia entry, and it's clearly wrong, then it shouldn't find a second life on the "Talk Page."
If I recall, you were the original poster of some of this material, which won't be elaborated here. Perhaps we should ask an administrator to referee this. It seems clear to me, however, that material which is patently offensive, wrong or unlawful should not appear in any Wikipedia publication, including the Discussion page. posted by 147.72.93.199, 16:21, 18 Apr 2005
First of all, you've been here long enough to learn how to sign your posts properly. Please start doing so immediately. As you've been told repeatedly, all you have to do is type four tildes (~) in a row. On most keyboards the tidle can be found in the upper left corner.
The talk page is preserved as a record of past discussion of the article, including our mistakes. It prevents us from making the same mistakes and covering the same ground over and over again. This is pretty standard Wikipedia practice. I see no reason for an exception in this case, especially since you are blanking much material (including criticism of yourself) which has nothing to do with your stated reason for deletion. If you wish to archive the current contents of the page on an archive page, I will support this decision. I will not support blanking under any circumstances. I have already warned you against blanking and you blanked it a second time anyway. This is considered vandalism on Wikipedia and as I told you already is grounds for blocking. Gamaliel 20:40, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for RFC-ing the DuBois article -- it has been beset with so much POV-pushing that I've given up on improving it for the time being, though I'd like to work on it in the future. By the way, as you might also have noticed, User:Dagen may be a sockpuppet of User:TDC (or they might just happen to be interested in pushing the same POV on the exact same articles). Thanks for your effort. -- Rbellin| Talk 06:57, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Does anyone know if there is a connection between Dagen ( talk · contribs), and the sock puppets UDoN't!wAn* ( talk · contribs) and Chunkyhoyo ( talk · contribs)? -- Viriditas | Talk 01:18, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I think the new article Studiotraffic is a big ol' ad, but I'm also aware that I don't pick out ads very well. Could you let me know what you think? Gracias. Joyous 21:39, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)
This is my first reponse on a talk page, so I hope I'm doing this right. This is in response to the message you sent me earlier.
I have an issue with keeping detractor advertisements for conservatives. Granted, I could dig up 40 detractors for the top dogs of liberalism, but they would be just as propagandistic as what you keep putting on Hannity, Coulter, and Savage's pages. If I'm going to read about Randi Rhoads, I don't care what NewsMax or WorldNetDaily thinks of her. Likewise, If I'm reading about Savage, what FAIR or the Nation thinks about him is equally irrelevant. There's plenty of detraction in their "quotes" section. The US Army website does not contain links to anti-war or anti-military websites. Shouldn't the same standard apply? Is Wikipedia supposed to be a source of information, or propoganda?
Furthermore, on the push poll article, conservatives have accused the media for years of pushing polls in order to report the results they want. The Schaivo issue is just the latest "example" in their eyes. You've accused me of deleting "valid" information, yet the fact that conservatives have made that accusation for years is just that - a fact. It's valid information. Seems to me, sir, that you're forcing your liberal bias on the issues you contribute to.
It's starting to seem to me that accusations by conservatives that Wikipedia has a liberal bias on politcal and historical issues might be somewhat correct.
(Back to the left for more room). Equinox, can you please sign all your posts? Thanks. Anyway, as far as the links go, I don't get this "unprofessional" argument. It's not like we were linking to a geocities page called "Ann Coluter Suks d00d". You deleted links to Media Matters which, whatever their political leanings, presents plenty of solid information backed up with links to news reports. That is exactly the sort of informational resource I expect to see in an external links section, and when someone deletes a link like that it seems like an attempt to whitewash the article's subject and hide criticism. In any case, thank you for being so agreeable, most of these political disagreements unfortunately degenerate into nasty shouting matches. Gamaliel 00:13, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Sorry, I thought I did sign the last post. You've got a point there wasn't any inapproriate or obscene links, however I thought it was unprofessional to link several detractors as it was. I didn't realize I deleted Media Matters (they can be a good source) of info, so I need to be more careful when editing - for that I take responsibility. In any case, I don't want to degenerate into a shouting match, either - I just want to come to a resolution every can agree on (like sorting links) and yet still have fair content. Cheers! Equinox137 00:45, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I've been emailed by TDC because you blocked him with the following comment:
As you probably know we're supposed to block for a MAXIMUM of 24 hours per instance--there is no consensus for multiplying by 2 for people who repeatedly offend. But that's not why TDC contacted me.
He asked me to look at his last 24-hours worth of edits on that article. I did so and I see (times are UTC):
This seems to make at most three reverts. Why did you block him? -- Tony Sidaway| Talk 21:35, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Is it really appropriate for an admin to block someone for 3RR in a dispute to which they are a party? Anonip 00:03, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
If there's no subjectivity about counting, how is it that Tony counted "at most three reverts" and you counted four? (I'll admit I'm confused about the diff links myself, and I'm not saying you're wrong in this instance. But I do think that counting reverts is different from counting edits, and may involve some judgement as to which edits constitute reverts, which is probably best done by a neutral party.) Anonip 00:23, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I recognize that the Wikipedia community has trusted you with admin powers because they believed you were reasonable, impartial, and level-headed enough to make certain judgement calls. But I still think that because of your personal involvement in the dispute, it would have been appropriate for you to recuse yourself. The issue is not distiguishing between three or four, but distinguishing qualifying reverts from other edits. I am not saying you erred here in concluding that there was a 3RR violation (although you did apparently err in applying a 48-hour block), I'm just suggesting that it might be a good idea, if only to ensure the appearance of fairness, not to block in disputes where you're personally involved.
Also, would you disagree with my perception that you and TDC are involved in an "edit war" over his attempted additions to the Pablo Neruda page? Is this appropriate? Might it not be more productive to apply dispute resolution? Anonip 02:57, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
For what it's worth I don't want to nitpick about Galamiel's interpretation of WP:3RR but if I were to use it I would hesitate to interpret it so widely. If I encountered what I thought was probably a 3RR in an article that I has edited in recent weeks, especially if it was an editor with whom I was in active dispute, I would list it on WP:AN/3RR. Another administrator would be able to act on it, and the question of whether the rule had been broken in this instance could be decided by discussion.
In practice I don't use the rule at all (with one exception--I employed it in calculating a composite block period for various extreme policy breaches by User:Martin2000 a few weeks ago). I am not convinced that 3RR is of use except as a deterrent against reasonable editors. The more anti-social editors don't seem to care much about being blocked and I think it's possible that their prejudices are confirmed by its use. I would use it with extreme caution, or not at all. -- Tony Sidaway| Talk 13:44, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
5.
This also has nothing to do with me complaining loudly and rudely or not. You were out of line for applying the ban, and you were most certainly out of line for doubling it, plain .... and .... simple. TDC 20:20, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)
I am wondering, Gamaliel, whether administrators have access to the stored email address for users. Would you happen to know the answer? plain_regular_ham 16:08, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Hi Gamaliel. Recently you were in contact with -- Zoltarak. He's been blocked for "intent to start vandalism." He's contacted me (we share a computer at school) and asked me to come here and try to get you guys to reverse the block. For one, it appears there's been a misunderstanding. Someone on his "talk" page claims he's vandalized the "vfd" which he never did. He was also reverted for stuff he did at the sandbox, which is supposed to not happen, as I understand it. By the way, this is an awesome site! Do you need a valid email address to make an account? I'm at school now and don't have access to my email. Thanks, and please reconsider the block on Zoltarak. unsigned comment from User:204.122.253.240
Gamaliel, You own this Talk page, so you can edit it as you please. But you didn't delete my earlier comments. Why this one? Anonip 21:42, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Gamaliel, I get the message. You won't tolerate any further comments from me here. That's okay. I moved my last comment (the one you just deleted) to my own Talk page. Guess it must've really struck a nerve. Happy dodging! Anonip 02:01, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Sorry that my closing remark was misinterpreted. It was meant in the same friendly spirit as your earlier "keep on trollin'". Anonip 03:48, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I thought I might bring this to your attention: Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/List of people described as Stalinists. Chaplin, GBS, and Redgrave as well as Neruda. Indeed. -- Viajero 22:04, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Would you care to register an opinon on the Masturbation Talk page as to whether a full color photograph of male masturbation is suitable for that page? Thank you. Force10 22:27, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Gamaliel, there is an impersonator who you already gave a warning to change their user name and they still have not after all these months. If you go here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Classicjupiter2 and click on the user name, user:Keith-Wigdor, you will see that you already have warned them to stop. Please take the proper action in regards to this issue. Thanks. Classicjupiter2 23:49, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
So here's a Wiki Thanks to Gamaliel!
Tell me what you think. Mike H 11:54, Feb 25, 2005 (UTC)
Do you have any idea what is going on with the Killian Documents article? The whole complex just got moved, lock, stock, and barrel, to "CBS Documents" by M. E. Smith. I was under the assumption that last year's name change vote came in against using that title. -- Ray Radlein 23:40, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)
I need to report to you the user, "Keith-Wigdor". Here is the URL, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Votes_for_deletion/Keith_Wigdor Classicjupiter2 00:36, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Wikipedia was already given notice of this impersonator by the artist Keith Wigdor at the artenligne website. User Allyunion even warned the user, "Keith-Wigdor" to stop impersonating the artist. The user contributions that you will see made by this imposter, "Keith-Wigdor" are highly innappropriate. Classicjupiter2 18:07, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Gamaliel, can you permantely remove the following abuse of Wikipedia by this impersonator at the following page, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:North_American_Man-Boy_Love_Association As you will see the impersonator, user, "Keith-Wigdor" is using the Wikipedia service to commit slander against the artist. Please prevent this person who is commiting this abuse to stop. Classicjupiter2 18:18, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Gamaliel, I need to report abuse. There is a new user who is already abusing the Wikipedia servcie and abusing the artist, here take a look,
"Hey everyone, I know that I'm a first-time wiki editor, so I don't feel entitled to vote, but at least I wanted to show some support towards my big brother, Keith. What I wanted to ask the wiki-administrators was whether or not wikipedia has a paid-inclusion program. What I mean is that I'd like to pay you some money in order for Keith to keep his article going. I can understand why people reading this page might think that this just more sock-puppet antics, but if you check my IP address, you'll see that I'm sending this from Boston. KEITH WIGDOR IS THE GREATEST!!!!!! --Nancy-Wigdor 18:09, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)"
Gamaliel, most likely these are prankster friends of the user Bleedy, but I need to let you know that this abuse is now on-going and immediate action should be taken to prevent the abuse of Wikipedia and the artist. Classicjupiter2 19:05, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Hi Gamaliel.
You don't have to delete the redirects to edit the articles. There are detailed instructions here on Meta.
Briefly, follow the Bo Bice link. When you're redirected to American Idol, the message "(redirected from Bo Bice)" appears at the top of the American Idol page. Click on the Bo Bice link in that message, and you can then edit the Bo Bice article. Don't ask me if they need articles, though. :) -- TenOfAllTrades | Talk 01:12, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I don't, on reflection, care enough to challenge the deletion of [[:Category:Television programs based on Milestone Comics]], but it would have been nice to have been offered the opportunity. -- Paul A 06:18, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I'm curious: why did you take out the caption of the picture on the Katzenjammer Kids? It seemed OK to me. - DavidWBrooks 20:56, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I feel it is more frustrating, in fact, to deal with an administrator on a power trip than it is do deal with vandalism. If you feel I have done something wrong, please cite the wrong and refrain from making threats. Thank you. if i knew how to sign I would....unsigned comment from User:Zach4000
Haha. That was funny wasn't it? I think it was. Therefore, it was a power trip. Zach4000.
What vandalism? Perhaps you have the wrong person? -- Dermers Ladder 08:53, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Yes they are. You better unblock him! -- 219.77.244.55 09:04, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Please remove the copyvio. I have permission from both the Forgotten Tao Foundation and Dr. Stephen Chang to use the biography from http://www.bodhibooksellers.com/tao/bio.html which is his event website linked to, from his foundation http://www.thegreattao.com/. This is the most comprehensive bio for Dr. Chang. Thanks again.
Ok. I work with the Director of the Forgotten Tao Foundation on a regular basis and I can supply permission via email from both him and possibly Dr. Chang himself. Additionally, I have ftp access to http://www.bodhibooksellers.com/tao/ which I can prove very easily right now because I added you username to the bottom of this bio page. If that's not good enough for you please pass that on to the other party.
When will this inaccurate copyvio be removed?
Thanks for having commented at User:JamesMLane/Rexlog, but I'm left unsure of the facts. I want to make sure I get it right to present to the ArbCom. Did you block him once, partly for vandalizing Neutrality's user page and partly for his 3RR violation? Or did you block him for 24 hours for the vandalism, and then, after his return, block him again for another 24 hours for the 3RR? If it's the latter, I'd like to include a link for the first block, if one is available. Feel free to answer here or just by editing the draft complaint, whatever you prefer. Thanks for your help. (BTW, it's only by coming to your user page to leave this comment that I found the Chicago Sun-Times article mentioning Lee Harvey Oswald. Congratulations on the recognition! Of course, now I can't resist the temptation to make a few minor cleanups there. Damn Wikicrack, I had other plans for today....) JamesMLane 16:35, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for uploading Image:Timeisgoddead.jpg and for stating the source. However, its copyright status is unclear, so it may have to be deleted. If it is open content or public domain, please give proof of this on the image page. If the image is fair use, please provide a rationale. Thank you. -- cohesion ☎ 09:38, Mar 28, 2005 (UTC)
Your "sandbox" subpage contains a category link to a category I'm cleaning up. If you decide to make this a real page, please change {{music-stub}} to {{album-stub}}. Thanks. -- Wahoofive 22:52, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I really screwed up here. I didn't know I was making changes to the server, I thought I was just making local changes to what I was seeing. It won't happen anymore. comment from User:192.146.101.24
I didn't have any concept of what Wikipedia was or how it works. I never saw the part that said, "Welcome to Wikipedia, the free-content encyclopedia that anyone can edit." I'm feeling pretty stupid now, but I've signed up for an account under the name Key West. Now that I understand how this works, I think this is the coolest idea I've ever seen, and I really, truly apologize for my unintentional vandalism.
I will endeavor to contribute legitimate information only in the future, starting with a donation. comment from User:Key West
Refusing a polite request for help with the response: "I am not your fucking monkey" is a personal attack. Obsessively following me round Wikipedia and reverting my sensible contribution to the Impotence pages is also an attack - dare I say it, an attack that is planned and slightly worrying. You continue to flout Wikipedia:No personal attacks - even to the point of (wrongly) accusing me of spamming the Sollog page when I in fact posted a very small extract, a link and a quotation from an independent source. Let's face it, you're not the slightest bit interested in me making positive contributions. You just want to hound me from Wiki which given this is (obviously) a pseudonym and I may have several others, means your crusade is against ...what? All rather sad. Naturally you'll delete this as that's the kind of Wikipedia:No personal attacks behaviour you follow. The Number 13:47, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Maybe you don't realise what you're saying; maybe you just don't care. Your list adjectives (to the point of having 'insidious' and 'ulterior motives') points to your lack of competence as an Editor. Editors throughout Wikipedia struggle to maintain a NPOV. One of the aims is to produce and update an online encyclopedia that is free from bias, that is carefully create and maintained. Not one of your rather carelessly chosen descriptions could in any way apply to my posts on the 'Impotence' page and yet.... and yet they were deleted not by a regular Editor there but one of the team of stalkers (Pomeroy) who clearly does not understand how an aphrodoisiac could be of use to someone suffering from impotence. One of my major criticisms of Editors (not in general, just some I have 'met') is that the very aims they aspire to - rationality, accuracy, method - they constantly fall short of because of their emotional responses to anonymous Editors. Interesting too that you refer to me as a troll (you in fact mean [4])in that, as you admit, you and others with the same views, follow me around, Editing/deleting my posts, possibly without even reading (Wyss even sought praise because she hadn't read the Edit she reverted - how's that for rationality!) Calling me a troll makes assumptions about my motives that are impossible to determine. Such an assumption would generally be an example of the fundamental attribution error; i.e. inferring that behaviour results from a person's nature or personality rather than examining behaviour in the context of events surrounding the behaviour. In other words, trolling may have more to do with context than with personality. You raise the topic of credibility. I would not want the type of credibility that would allow me to flout Wikipedia rules; I would not want the type of credibility that seems so necessary for those with Barnstars etc. I Edit as I see fit, for the greater good. You say no-one wishes to associate with me - I strongly suspect that IF someone did (eg Sollogfan) s/he would simply be labelled by the irrational Editors as a troll/sockpuppet etc. Amusingly, when Sollogfan joined the gaggle against me he was then labelled as my sockpuppet! I laughed out loud when I saw that! As is so often the case I have disproved the few clear statements you have made - and again I do that for your own good. You agree you're biased. Bias should play no part in Editing here - deal with the content, not the poster. In short, deal with your own limitations that are becoming increasingly obvious to all except those who, because of bias, do not wish to see. The Number 00:25, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Gamaliel, though the effort is valiant, it will never be fruitful. As amusing it is for me to watch The Number provide even more reams of damning diffs that I can collect at User:Saxifrage/Userwatch#The Number, I personally think you should take the advice you gave to Wyss and start ignoring him. He has no interest in responding rationally or bringing any conflict to an end. Rather, he only does it to gather material to better mimick the behaviour of esteemed editors and to use against you. Besides, you don't really need to defend yourself against his accusations: he has no ability to rally support against anyone, let alone an admin. — Saxifrage | ☎ 01:39, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Dr Zen/keepschools. You may want to subst your recent use of User:Gamaliel/S at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/St. Joseph's Secondary School before it turns into a similar circus. (Or you may want to let someone vfd it, too, and grind your teeth together in frustration as everyone who votes "keep, user space" for Dr Zen's version remains mysteriously silent for yours.) Just letting you know. — Korath ( Talk) 15:37, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)
This new comment was posted in one of my talk page archives and moved here by me:
Gamaliel,
I took the blue pencil to the Discussion section, in re The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_Tribune-Review) because it was obvious that material that was offensive, erroneous and, frankly, libelous continued to appear there, and that search engines could pick it up.
If it's not good enough for the encyclopedia entry, and it's clearly wrong, then it shouldn't find a second life on the "Talk Page."
If I recall, you were the original poster of some of this material, which won't be elaborated here. Perhaps we should ask an administrator to referee this. It seems clear to me, however, that material which is patently offensive, wrong or unlawful should not appear in any Wikipedia publication, including the Discussion page. posted by 147.72.93.199, 16:21, 18 Apr 2005
First of all, you've been here long enough to learn how to sign your posts properly. Please start doing so immediately. As you've been told repeatedly, all you have to do is type four tildes (~) in a row. On most keyboards the tidle can be found in the upper left corner.
The talk page is preserved as a record of past discussion of the article, including our mistakes. It prevents us from making the same mistakes and covering the same ground over and over again. This is pretty standard Wikipedia practice. I see no reason for an exception in this case, especially since you are blanking much material (including criticism of yourself) which has nothing to do with your stated reason for deletion. If you wish to archive the current contents of the page on an archive page, I will support this decision. I will not support blanking under any circumstances. I have already warned you against blanking and you blanked it a second time anyway. This is considered vandalism on Wikipedia and as I told you already is grounds for blocking. Gamaliel 20:40, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for RFC-ing the DuBois article -- it has been beset with so much POV-pushing that I've given up on improving it for the time being, though I'd like to work on it in the future. By the way, as you might also have noticed, User:Dagen may be a sockpuppet of User:TDC (or they might just happen to be interested in pushing the same POV on the exact same articles). Thanks for your effort. -- Rbellin| Talk 06:57, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Does anyone know if there is a connection between Dagen ( talk · contribs), and the sock puppets UDoN't!wAn* ( talk · contribs) and Chunkyhoyo ( talk · contribs)? -- Viriditas | Talk 01:18, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I think the new article Studiotraffic is a big ol' ad, but I'm also aware that I don't pick out ads very well. Could you let me know what you think? Gracias. Joyous 21:39, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)
This is my first reponse on a talk page, so I hope I'm doing this right. This is in response to the message you sent me earlier.
I have an issue with keeping detractor advertisements for conservatives. Granted, I could dig up 40 detractors for the top dogs of liberalism, but they would be just as propagandistic as what you keep putting on Hannity, Coulter, and Savage's pages. If I'm going to read about Randi Rhoads, I don't care what NewsMax or WorldNetDaily thinks of her. Likewise, If I'm reading about Savage, what FAIR or the Nation thinks about him is equally irrelevant. There's plenty of detraction in their "quotes" section. The US Army website does not contain links to anti-war or anti-military websites. Shouldn't the same standard apply? Is Wikipedia supposed to be a source of information, or propoganda?
Furthermore, on the push poll article, conservatives have accused the media for years of pushing polls in order to report the results they want. The Schaivo issue is just the latest "example" in their eyes. You've accused me of deleting "valid" information, yet the fact that conservatives have made that accusation for years is just that - a fact. It's valid information. Seems to me, sir, that you're forcing your liberal bias on the issues you contribute to.
It's starting to seem to me that accusations by conservatives that Wikipedia has a liberal bias on politcal and historical issues might be somewhat correct.
(Back to the left for more room). Equinox, can you please sign all your posts? Thanks. Anyway, as far as the links go, I don't get this "unprofessional" argument. It's not like we were linking to a geocities page called "Ann Coluter Suks d00d". You deleted links to Media Matters which, whatever their political leanings, presents plenty of solid information backed up with links to news reports. That is exactly the sort of informational resource I expect to see in an external links section, and when someone deletes a link like that it seems like an attempt to whitewash the article's subject and hide criticism. In any case, thank you for being so agreeable, most of these political disagreements unfortunately degenerate into nasty shouting matches. Gamaliel 00:13, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Sorry, I thought I did sign the last post. You've got a point there wasn't any inapproriate or obscene links, however I thought it was unprofessional to link several detractors as it was. I didn't realize I deleted Media Matters (they can be a good source) of info, so I need to be more careful when editing - for that I take responsibility. In any case, I don't want to degenerate into a shouting match, either - I just want to come to a resolution every can agree on (like sorting links) and yet still have fair content. Cheers! Equinox137 00:45, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I've been emailed by TDC because you blocked him with the following comment:
As you probably know we're supposed to block for a MAXIMUM of 24 hours per instance--there is no consensus for multiplying by 2 for people who repeatedly offend. But that's not why TDC contacted me.
He asked me to look at his last 24-hours worth of edits on that article. I did so and I see (times are UTC):
This seems to make at most three reverts. Why did you block him? -- Tony Sidaway| Talk 21:35, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Is it really appropriate for an admin to block someone for 3RR in a dispute to which they are a party? Anonip 00:03, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
If there's no subjectivity about counting, how is it that Tony counted "at most three reverts" and you counted four? (I'll admit I'm confused about the diff links myself, and I'm not saying you're wrong in this instance. But I do think that counting reverts is different from counting edits, and may involve some judgement as to which edits constitute reverts, which is probably best done by a neutral party.) Anonip 00:23, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I recognize that the Wikipedia community has trusted you with admin powers because they believed you were reasonable, impartial, and level-headed enough to make certain judgement calls. But I still think that because of your personal involvement in the dispute, it would have been appropriate for you to recuse yourself. The issue is not distiguishing between three or four, but distinguishing qualifying reverts from other edits. I am not saying you erred here in concluding that there was a 3RR violation (although you did apparently err in applying a 48-hour block), I'm just suggesting that it might be a good idea, if only to ensure the appearance of fairness, not to block in disputes where you're personally involved.
Also, would you disagree with my perception that you and TDC are involved in an "edit war" over his attempted additions to the Pablo Neruda page? Is this appropriate? Might it not be more productive to apply dispute resolution? Anonip 02:57, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
For what it's worth I don't want to nitpick about Galamiel's interpretation of WP:3RR but if I were to use it I would hesitate to interpret it so widely. If I encountered what I thought was probably a 3RR in an article that I has edited in recent weeks, especially if it was an editor with whom I was in active dispute, I would list it on WP:AN/3RR. Another administrator would be able to act on it, and the question of whether the rule had been broken in this instance could be decided by discussion.
In practice I don't use the rule at all (with one exception--I employed it in calculating a composite block period for various extreme policy breaches by User:Martin2000 a few weeks ago). I am not convinced that 3RR is of use except as a deterrent against reasonable editors. The more anti-social editors don't seem to care much about being blocked and I think it's possible that their prejudices are confirmed by its use. I would use it with extreme caution, or not at all. -- Tony Sidaway| Talk 13:44, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
5.
This also has nothing to do with me complaining loudly and rudely or not. You were out of line for applying the ban, and you were most certainly out of line for doubling it, plain .... and .... simple. TDC 20:20, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)
I am wondering, Gamaliel, whether administrators have access to the stored email address for users. Would you happen to know the answer? plain_regular_ham 16:08, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Hi Gamaliel. Recently you were in contact with -- Zoltarak. He's been blocked for "intent to start vandalism." He's contacted me (we share a computer at school) and asked me to come here and try to get you guys to reverse the block. For one, it appears there's been a misunderstanding. Someone on his "talk" page claims he's vandalized the "vfd" which he never did. He was also reverted for stuff he did at the sandbox, which is supposed to not happen, as I understand it. By the way, this is an awesome site! Do you need a valid email address to make an account? I'm at school now and don't have access to my email. Thanks, and please reconsider the block on Zoltarak. unsigned comment from User:204.122.253.240
Gamaliel, You own this Talk page, so you can edit it as you please. But you didn't delete my earlier comments. Why this one? Anonip 21:42, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Gamaliel, I get the message. You won't tolerate any further comments from me here. That's okay. I moved my last comment (the one you just deleted) to my own Talk page. Guess it must've really struck a nerve. Happy dodging! Anonip 02:01, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Sorry that my closing remark was misinterpreted. It was meant in the same friendly spirit as your earlier "keep on trollin'". Anonip 03:48, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I thought I might bring this to your attention: Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/List of people described as Stalinists. Chaplin, GBS, and Redgrave as well as Neruda. Indeed. -- Viajero 22:04, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Would you care to register an opinon on the Masturbation Talk page as to whether a full color photograph of male masturbation is suitable for that page? Thank you. Force10 22:27, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Gamaliel, there is an impersonator who you already gave a warning to change their user name and they still have not after all these months. If you go here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Classicjupiter2 and click on the user name, user:Keith-Wigdor, you will see that you already have warned them to stop. Please take the proper action in regards to this issue. Thanks. Classicjupiter2 23:49, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)