Forgiven, no problem there, but this affaire is quite elaborate and even my family living in the area for generations only allows to understand part of this fantastic story of our shared European history.
When some time ago, in some Goteborg museum in Sweeden I discovered some artifacts from our area (Westmeath / Lake-county), and I can only imagine that many more are disperced through-out Scandanivia. You Can help by un-teasing some part of it out, as Fore Abbey has been a most unfortunate target and almost all of the abbeys treasures are scattered through-out Scandanivian northern Europe, artifacts manufacteured by the Monks in the area even French Benedictin monks from Evreux.
Must go now I'll speak again.... Gavigan
Hi. Yes, that was me. Thanks for contacting me and for doing that article. I responded to your query and made slight improvements to the English in your article. Best regards, Deacon of Pndapetzim ( Talk) 23:19, 18 March 2007 (UTC)r
The easy thing first: Máel (Maíl and Máele are genitive forms) literally means someone who has been tonsured: a monk. As a name, it means "servant". It is usually followed by a saint's name. Máel Sechnaill (Malachy), Servant of Saint Secundus; Máel Coluim (Malcolm), servant of Saint Columba; Máel Isu (Malise), servant of Jesus. You'll see names where the first word is Gille, they have exactly the same general meaning: servant of Saint X. Earl Máel Brigte the Tooth in the Orkneyinga Saga is the servant of Saint Brigit (probably Brigit of Kildare). All of these names can appear as one word rather than two: Máelcoluim, Gillebrigte.
Next, Máel Sechnaill/Máel Sechlainn spelling. the Annals of the Four Masters use quite modern Irish Gaelic spellings of names. Academics tend to avoid those and use older-style ones. According to the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, the first Máel Sechnaill's name is "Máel Sechnaill mac Máele Ruanaid", and that appears to be the correct academic spelling. Neither is right, it's just different sorts of Irish. The name is anglicised, via latin, as Malachy.
The Olaf the White and Amlaíb Conung articles here should be merged so they resemble the one you wrote. My Norwegian is non-existent really, but I think I'll copy you and ccombine the two. I did that for the two (or three) different versions of Rognvald, Earl of Møre.
Finally, so far as I am aware O Corrain (whose first name is spelled in several different ways) is an orthodox and respected Irish historian. He's the man who started the CELT project, author of a fair number of papers and books. He's been a historian a long time: Ireland before the Normans - which was for a long time, and may still be, the best-known popular book on Viking Age Ireland - was published in 1972. Angus McLellan (Talk) 19:51, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
I've removed the statement about the "norse" in relation to Cináed mac Conaing and left the one for 856. Does that seem ok now? Angus McLellan (Talk) 21:58, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Those maps look quite good. There is a rather crude "Ireland according to Ptolemy" map in User:Angusmclellan/Early Christian Ireland. Feel free to take anything you want from that. It uses overlaying: the syntax is simple enough, but will it work on the Norwegian wiki? The "later Kingdoms" one doesn't link Bréifne, and there's an alternative version in User:Angusmclellan/Eóganachta which might be better.
Merges are proposed with {{ mergefrom}} and {{ mergeto}}, but Fergananim would be the man to ask about those. Best wishes, Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:54, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. Always glad to be of help.
As regards the map, I agree. The history and geography of the kingdom of Connacht in its heyday (c.800-1202) is a bit mind-boggleing. There are only a handful of good articles that I am aware of on its kings, all the Galway Arch. & Hist. Society Journal. As for Brian's mother, that has being a bit of a puzzle for me too; I presumbe she was of the Ui Bruin Seola sept of the Sil Muirdeag (who later adopted the surname O Flaithertaigh) but last time I looked could not find any such Murchad. Incidently, at that point in time they were still based on a crannog on Lough Cimbe (now Lough Hackett), south-west of Tuam; they were only moved further west into Iar-Connacht by the O Connors in the 12th and 13th century. Cheers, Fergananim 15:50, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Greetings Finnrind
Thanks for your message. I have no objections to your proposed edits. I just wanted to get rid of the nonsense about including the Germans. As you might have noted, I contacted the editor who made this edit [1] so I hope we will not see this again. The definitions I normally go by myself are: Scandinavian peoples: Danes, Norwegians, Swedes, Icelanders and Faroese (although I'd normally only include the latter two in very recent contexts, in contrast to e.g. an article about the Scandinavist movement). When I comes to the Nordic countries, I'd normally include Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Iceland (and the Faroes although the latter is not an independent country). Happy editing. Valentinian T / C 16:11, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
I have been confused by these two articles for some time. I am aware that some scholars think they are the same person but their stories seem quite different. What source can we cite to show they are identical? Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 21:21, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi Finnrind. I would like your opinion on the above short addition I made to Prehistoric settlement of Great Britain and Ireland. Cheers. Fergananim 14:23, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Please check out this new wikiproject, and sign up if you are interested. No contribution is too small! Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 14:56, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi Finnrind,
You were asking about Brian Boru's mother, Bé Binn. As mentioned by Ferganim she was of the Muinter Murchada branch of the Uí Briúin Seólai, one of the three main divisions of the Uí Briúin dynasty (the Síl Muiredaig actually belonged to a different division of this dynasty, the Uí Briúin Aí). Her father was Aurchad son of Murchad who died in 945 as king of West Connacht according to the Annals of Ulster, and king of the Uí Briúin according to the Annals of Inisfallen. (The Uí Briúin kingship would have been a sub-kingship under the Uí Briúin Aí (Síl Muiredaig) over-kingship of Connacht.)
Aurchad's off-spring appear to have married well: Bé Binn's sister Cres is claimed to have been the wife of the Síl Muiredaig king of Connacht, Tadg son of Cathal (d. 956) and mother of his sons Conchobar (ancestor of the Ua Conchobair kings of Connacht), Máel Ruanaid (ancestor of the Ua Máel Ruanaid [later Mac Diarmata] kings of Mag Luirg, and Tadg (ancestor of the Uí Taidg an Teglaig branch of Síl Muiredaig). Another sister, Cainech, may have married into another branch of Uí Briúin Seóla, and been the ancestress of the rival Clann Coscraig sept of that dynasty.
Bé Binn was also the mother of Lochlann and Conchobar, sons of Máel Sechnaill (fl. 1006) of the Corcu Mruad people of North Munster. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 89.100.253.15 ( talk) 11:17, 18 April 2007 (UTC).
Can you tell if replies to Bastin's incitment have been edited out?
Can you tell if I populated the page History of Britain (the original name of the article). By my reading of this is moving - not blanking or merging.
Is a three word reply blustering - Sonic Youth has contributed to the British Isles naming dispute page.
Have you reached the limits of your Norwegian Peacekeeping duties Aatomic1 11:56, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
How do I ask for qualified second opinions in an dispute over sources/accuracy (Irish medieval history). The articles in question are Melaghlin and Turgesius, a {{ prod}} placed by me in the first one has since been removed. Finnrind 23:31, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the info! I will look into it unless you want to try translating that bit from the Norwegian. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 02:55, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
Just wanted to thank you for clarifications in discussion for Wolf the Quarrelsome. The idea that the death of Brodir was inspired by the death of Judas was a great observation... I'd like to include this idea in the Wolf article -- might you have a reference (could we just link to an account of the death of judas) or would that be considered Original Research?
anyways, thanks for the wisdom! Nonlucent 02:36, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
Hello Finn, hope you are well. I'll move the article to Áed Findliath, and tidy up all the links, once I've added stuff from Hudson's Oxford DNB article. Regards, Angus McLellan (Talk) 14:24, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the message Finnrind. I hope you keep up the good work on English and Norwegian wiki. If you have any questions you need to ask while translating something or what not, feel free to contact me. Best regards, Deacon of Pndapetzim ( Talk) 21:38, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Saw your comments concerning this. God its awful! However I do applaud Angus's sentiment, as its always easier to destroy than to create .... tempting as it is! Looking forward to exploring your work. Fergananim 22:26, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
Spotted you edit on my page - thanks!! Sarah777 ( talk) 22:49, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
A few quotes from Woolf's Pictland to Alba that may be useful:
"The attacks on Iona are usually associated with a project begun in 807 and completed in 814, the building of a new ciuitas,or major church settlement, at Kells by the abbot Cellach of Iona. [fn: AU 807.4 and 814.9] This has been widely interpreted as a reflection of a growing disquiet on Iona in the context of repeated attacks by heathens. The plan may have been to move the relics of St Columba and the headship of the familia from Iona to Kells, more safely located in the interior of Ireland" [p. 59]
"In the Frankish kingdom the news ... inspired Wahalfrid Strabo, a leading scholar of the day, to compose a poem on Blathmac's martyrdom. In this poem, as Clancy points out, Iona is described as an island of the Picts. [fn: Clancy, "Iona in the kingdom of the Picts", Innes Review 55 (2004)] That Iona was in some sense under Constantín's control may also be hinted at by the claim added to a version of the king-list in the reign of Alexander II (1214-49), that Dunkeld was founded by Constantín. Although we cannot know how old this tradition was he would seem an unusual patron to foist upon the Columban cult at a late date. Dunkeld was to become the chief church of Columba in the kingdom of Alba and it is possible that since Pictish overlordship over Dál Riata seems to have been established in 811, while the building of the new ciuitas at Kells was in progress, this reflects a desire by Constantín to keep the relics of Columba in Scotland. Columba was, after all, the apostle of Fortriu, and it is likely that he, and Iona, occupied a special place in the Pictish mentalité." [pp. 64-54]
"[The Chronicle of the Kings of Alba] claims that in his seventh year Cináed 'conveyed the relics of Columba to the church that he had built'. Cináed's seventh year would seem to be c. 849 and under this year the Annals of Ulster record that 'Indrechtach, abbot of Iona, came to Ireland with the relics of Colum Cille'. [fn. AU 849.7] The simplest reading of these two records together would be that Cináed had built a church in Ireland to which Indrechtach was conveying the relics. This, however, seems unlikely and is not the view taken by most historians. The prevailing view among Scottish historians has been that in 849 the relics of Columba were divided between Kells and Dunkeld. This may have happened but there is little hard evidence for this and the clear division between the communities seems to have occurred at a slightly later date." [pp. 98-99]
Hope this helps. All the best, Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:54, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello Finnrind. Could you please scan the document that I have added for more information. For example the 1912-1914 from Wikicommons does not agree with the 1915 in the article. My Norwegian is basic. I have never learned it, but understand some of what I read and hear. Best regards, gidonb ( talk) 00:48, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
I withdrew my AfD nomination of Farris (mineral water), based in large part to your editorial input to both the article and the AfD discussion. I sincerely hope that my AfD nomination did not create any undue stress. I hope you can accept the following as a token of my appreciation:
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I, Eco Lee Tage, award User:Finnrind with this star for saving Farris (mineral water) from deletion. Please present this barnstar at any participating Oslo supermarket to claim your free six-pack of Farris (mineral water). :) Ecoleetage ( talk) 22:27, 22 June 2008 (UTC) |
"Farris doesn't come in sixpacks - maybe that piece of information should be included in the article ;o)." FYI, Finnrid, we do not get paid by the word. Come to think, we do not get paid at all... How did you say? Darn! gidonb ( talk) 23:22, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for make attention to the Japanese article of "greek letter" yot. I have requested deletion of the article. -- Peccafly- talk- hist 17:05, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Hello, apparently there are no real reliable documents on the battle and number of combatants. Although the past editor added a reference, the context from which it was taken was entirely speculative. The numbers I chose are consistent with almost all the records and articles I have been able to find, both in my library and online. I believe the article needs more information, i.e. a list of the possible and contradicting scenarios. I am new to Wikipedia, and I don't think I would be able to edit that much information. Buachalla77 ( talk) 22:13, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
Under this, my answer to you, I have placed your question for reference. Answer: When one searches for Dag Eliassen, then : 1. one comes to the page that has the most information about him. Partially one does not have to make a stub unnecessarily. Please note that this man is notable : he was a pioneer in FSK. The facts about him, that are on the page, to which one is redirected, establishes
I think that pretty much sums it up. And I hope you do not mind , that I am going to post this Q and A, on the discussion page. Have a pleasent weekend. Sju hav ( talk) 10:49, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Yes. Simultaneous actions. I will discuss with blocking admin. -- Anthony.bradbury "talk" 13:00, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Please see my reply on the BLP noticeboard. It is best to keep our discussion of these topics as public as possible so others can lend help. -- Ryan Delaney talk 14:26, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi Finnrind, Thanks for your helpful comments on Brodir and Ospak of Man. Do you consider that this article is unbalanced as a result of not including the material that you have highlighted? If so I can undo the GA-status; well at least change it to a Hold so that someone can add that material before re-sentencing it. Pyrotec ( talk) 19:22, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the points for consideration at Brodir and Ospak of Man! Since you seem to have some expertise in the subject (medieval Gaelic-Norse relations), I wonder if you could help me with an issue on a related article. I have outlined the problem here — namely, trouble I have been having with differing sources on the Sigtrygg Silkbeard and the Kings of Dublin.
Thanks. -- Grimhelm ( talk) 00:51, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
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Dear Finn,
I have seen you have done a certain amount of editing on some Japanese art subjects. Hasui, Goyo, and Ota Nampo.
I do not know if you have any Art History insights but:
In Art History it is of the outmost importance to have visual examples of the subjects discussed (pretty self evident?).
This is why I recently started to put some relevant links to such images. Most of the art history links in wiki are marred by bad images, dubious works lack of contextual explanations and so on. In the links I provide there are no such blemishes.
I do not really understand how you after a reading time of 35 seconds can decide to delete four links, I am one of the foremost experts on some of the subjects. I would need longer time to establish what is relevant and not.
In erudite academic circles wikipedia has a bad name. It has become known as a playground for "ignorant junior high school teachers" who rewrites and copies entries from books which are either to elementary or they do not have enough knowledge to understand the subject fully. This produce the very low quality entries we can see, for example, within my field, Oriental art history.
No academics I know bother writing anything for wikipedia anymore. It seems as everybody is feed up with having their work trashed by ignoramuses.
What is your curriculum vitae in Japanese art history?
I have a 40 year career as a professional lecturer, curator and writer about Japanese art. I have lived in Japan since 20 years.
I would think you should restudy the material, if you do not feel you can make a profound judgment, you should revert the links to point to the images.
If you judge the links are not relevant you should make a profound argument therefore.
I also see you have removed my previous message to you? Are you afraid of discussing something in a straightforward and honest manner. Or do you just lack respect for other people, their efforts and their knowledge.
Best regards from Tokyo
PS I also noticed you have been editing on the Japanese wiki. Did you read the guide lines, as they are somewhat different from the en.wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.185.152.1 ( talk) 08:31, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
The follwing is copypaste from my user talk at Commons.
Dear Finn,
I have seen you have done a certain amount of editing on some Japanese art subjects. Hasui & Ota Nampo.
I do not know if you have any Art History education or insights but: In Art History it is of the outmost importance to have visual examples of the subjects discussed (pretty self evident?).
This is why I recently started to put some relevant links to such images. Most of the art history links in wiki are mared by bad images, dubious works, lack of contextual explenations and so on. In the links I provide there are no such blemishes.
I have a 40 year career, in Japanese Art History and related fields, as a professional lecturer, curator and writer about Japanese art.
I have lived and worked in Japan since 20 years.
Best regards from a fellow Scandinavian
Please use some common sense when implementing the COIBot reports. Deleting the weblink to the company from its article is just plain nonsense, whoever did insert it. The article may be bad, the article may be not relevant and should be put up for deletion, but deleting the company weblink doesn't solve any of these issues. -- Pjacobi ( talk) 06:46, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
A link to my page does have a right of being in one article of French Wikipedia (at least). Please don't delete it from there. Eliascatcher ( talk) 11:56, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi Finnrind, you removed 4 external links we placed regarding www.sufifinder.com. Please let us know the reason, maybe we made made some error adding these links out of ignorance. Our website "Sufifinder" is made with best intentions to help people to find spiritual groups of any colour all over the world.With kind regards 79.145.127.13 ( talk) 11:55, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for notifying me about the ongoing discussion :-) Maen. K. A. ( talk) 08:33, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
Hello. Please dont kill my links from ISO 8583 wiki pages.
Giants27 15:49, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for informing me of that.-- Sky Attacker Here comes the bird! 01:54, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Hello. Hope you are well. Sorry, I wasn't able to find anything useful on Bishop Wimund. There is an article on him in the Oxford DNB. I don't have online access to that - instead I need to read the actual books, how old fashioned is that? - but the Deacon and Ealdgyth certainly do. If you are asking, Merfyn Frych is also in the ODNB. All the best, Angus McLellan (Talk) 11:27, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Regarding: Copper mine near Llandudno.
I have added a few English words as requested. It's not often I get to writing in my second language as 95% of my life is through the medium of Welsh (Cymraeg). All the best. Llywelyn2000 ( talk) 19:22, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! And yes, I better use the sandbox! Cheers, Fergananim ( talk) 01:33, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the note.
Dublin at this period is usually portrayed as a Norwegian city, though, as the article suggests, it was more likely a mixture of the Gael and the Norse. Sigtryggr himself though was pure Norse. He is said to have married the Árd-Rí's daughter though.
(One change I ought to have made is to change the Norse version of his name from Sigtrygg to Sigtryggr; it would be usual to use the nominative form not the accusative.)
The use of Gaelic names for these Norse rulers is a bit puzzling to a reader. In articles on Irish history it is understandable but the articles are in English and I believe it would be better to use names more familiar to English texts. ("Ímair"? He wasn't called that when he was buring East Anglia and torturing its king!) In Sihtric's case we are using the English version of him name, with the Irish nickname, but that is what does indeed appear in the textbooks.
Howard Alexander ( talk) 20:51, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi, if you read this then this backward communication is working ;) Since you're editing from different ip-adresses, you may have missed the additional encouragements left my myself and Notuncurious on this page. The discussion about the Deisi further illustrates the value of having an account instead of commenting from variuous ip-adresses, mainly for two reasons
Your contributions are most welcome, be it from ip or account, I hope we will see much more from you in the future, one way or the other. Best regards, Finn Rindahl ( talk) 12:50, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
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When you were Removing external link: *.statecoal.com -- per m:User:COIBot/XWiki/statecoal.com you left behind an empty External Links section. Just saying. Josh Parris 21:53, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Forgiven, no problem there, but this affaire is quite elaborate and even my family living in the area for generations only allows to understand part of this fantastic story of our shared European history.
When some time ago, in some Goteborg museum in Sweeden I discovered some artifacts from our area (Westmeath / Lake-county), and I can only imagine that many more are disperced through-out Scandanivia. You Can help by un-teasing some part of it out, as Fore Abbey has been a most unfortunate target and almost all of the abbeys treasures are scattered through-out Scandanivian northern Europe, artifacts manufacteured by the Monks in the area even French Benedictin monks from Evreux.
Must go now I'll speak again.... Gavigan
Hi. Yes, that was me. Thanks for contacting me and for doing that article. I responded to your query and made slight improvements to the English in your article. Best regards, Deacon of Pndapetzim ( Talk) 23:19, 18 March 2007 (UTC)r
The easy thing first: Máel (Maíl and Máele are genitive forms) literally means someone who has been tonsured: a monk. As a name, it means "servant". It is usually followed by a saint's name. Máel Sechnaill (Malachy), Servant of Saint Secundus; Máel Coluim (Malcolm), servant of Saint Columba; Máel Isu (Malise), servant of Jesus. You'll see names where the first word is Gille, they have exactly the same general meaning: servant of Saint X. Earl Máel Brigte the Tooth in the Orkneyinga Saga is the servant of Saint Brigit (probably Brigit of Kildare). All of these names can appear as one word rather than two: Máelcoluim, Gillebrigte.
Next, Máel Sechnaill/Máel Sechlainn spelling. the Annals of the Four Masters use quite modern Irish Gaelic spellings of names. Academics tend to avoid those and use older-style ones. According to the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, the first Máel Sechnaill's name is "Máel Sechnaill mac Máele Ruanaid", and that appears to be the correct academic spelling. Neither is right, it's just different sorts of Irish. The name is anglicised, via latin, as Malachy.
The Olaf the White and Amlaíb Conung articles here should be merged so they resemble the one you wrote. My Norwegian is non-existent really, but I think I'll copy you and ccombine the two. I did that for the two (or three) different versions of Rognvald, Earl of Møre.
Finally, so far as I am aware O Corrain (whose first name is spelled in several different ways) is an orthodox and respected Irish historian. He's the man who started the CELT project, author of a fair number of papers and books. He's been a historian a long time: Ireland before the Normans - which was for a long time, and may still be, the best-known popular book on Viking Age Ireland - was published in 1972. Angus McLellan (Talk) 19:51, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
I've removed the statement about the "norse" in relation to Cináed mac Conaing and left the one for 856. Does that seem ok now? Angus McLellan (Talk) 21:58, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Those maps look quite good. There is a rather crude "Ireland according to Ptolemy" map in User:Angusmclellan/Early Christian Ireland. Feel free to take anything you want from that. It uses overlaying: the syntax is simple enough, but will it work on the Norwegian wiki? The "later Kingdoms" one doesn't link Bréifne, and there's an alternative version in User:Angusmclellan/Eóganachta which might be better.
Merges are proposed with {{ mergefrom}} and {{ mergeto}}, but Fergananim would be the man to ask about those. Best wishes, Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:54, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. Always glad to be of help.
As regards the map, I agree. The history and geography of the kingdom of Connacht in its heyday (c.800-1202) is a bit mind-boggleing. There are only a handful of good articles that I am aware of on its kings, all the Galway Arch. & Hist. Society Journal. As for Brian's mother, that has being a bit of a puzzle for me too; I presumbe she was of the Ui Bruin Seola sept of the Sil Muirdeag (who later adopted the surname O Flaithertaigh) but last time I looked could not find any such Murchad. Incidently, at that point in time they were still based on a crannog on Lough Cimbe (now Lough Hackett), south-west of Tuam; they were only moved further west into Iar-Connacht by the O Connors in the 12th and 13th century. Cheers, Fergananim 15:50, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Greetings Finnrind
Thanks for your message. I have no objections to your proposed edits. I just wanted to get rid of the nonsense about including the Germans. As you might have noted, I contacted the editor who made this edit [1] so I hope we will not see this again. The definitions I normally go by myself are: Scandinavian peoples: Danes, Norwegians, Swedes, Icelanders and Faroese (although I'd normally only include the latter two in very recent contexts, in contrast to e.g. an article about the Scandinavist movement). When I comes to the Nordic countries, I'd normally include Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Iceland (and the Faroes although the latter is not an independent country). Happy editing. Valentinian T / C 16:11, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
I have been confused by these two articles for some time. I am aware that some scholars think they are the same person but their stories seem quite different. What source can we cite to show they are identical? Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 21:21, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi Finnrind. I would like your opinion on the above short addition I made to Prehistoric settlement of Great Britain and Ireland. Cheers. Fergananim 14:23, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Please check out this new wikiproject, and sign up if you are interested. No contribution is too small! Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 14:56, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi Finnrind,
You were asking about Brian Boru's mother, Bé Binn. As mentioned by Ferganim she was of the Muinter Murchada branch of the Uí Briúin Seólai, one of the three main divisions of the Uí Briúin dynasty (the Síl Muiredaig actually belonged to a different division of this dynasty, the Uí Briúin Aí). Her father was Aurchad son of Murchad who died in 945 as king of West Connacht according to the Annals of Ulster, and king of the Uí Briúin according to the Annals of Inisfallen. (The Uí Briúin kingship would have been a sub-kingship under the Uí Briúin Aí (Síl Muiredaig) over-kingship of Connacht.)
Aurchad's off-spring appear to have married well: Bé Binn's sister Cres is claimed to have been the wife of the Síl Muiredaig king of Connacht, Tadg son of Cathal (d. 956) and mother of his sons Conchobar (ancestor of the Ua Conchobair kings of Connacht), Máel Ruanaid (ancestor of the Ua Máel Ruanaid [later Mac Diarmata] kings of Mag Luirg, and Tadg (ancestor of the Uí Taidg an Teglaig branch of Síl Muiredaig). Another sister, Cainech, may have married into another branch of Uí Briúin Seóla, and been the ancestress of the rival Clann Coscraig sept of that dynasty.
Bé Binn was also the mother of Lochlann and Conchobar, sons of Máel Sechnaill (fl. 1006) of the Corcu Mruad people of North Munster. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 89.100.253.15 ( talk) 11:17, 18 April 2007 (UTC).
Can you tell if replies to Bastin's incitment have been edited out?
Can you tell if I populated the page History of Britain (the original name of the article). By my reading of this is moving - not blanking or merging.
Is a three word reply blustering - Sonic Youth has contributed to the British Isles naming dispute page.
Have you reached the limits of your Norwegian Peacekeeping duties Aatomic1 11:56, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
How do I ask for qualified second opinions in an dispute over sources/accuracy (Irish medieval history). The articles in question are Melaghlin and Turgesius, a {{ prod}} placed by me in the first one has since been removed. Finnrind 23:31, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the info! I will look into it unless you want to try translating that bit from the Norwegian. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 02:55, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
Just wanted to thank you for clarifications in discussion for Wolf the Quarrelsome. The idea that the death of Brodir was inspired by the death of Judas was a great observation... I'd like to include this idea in the Wolf article -- might you have a reference (could we just link to an account of the death of judas) or would that be considered Original Research?
anyways, thanks for the wisdom! Nonlucent 02:36, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
Hello Finn, hope you are well. I'll move the article to Áed Findliath, and tidy up all the links, once I've added stuff from Hudson's Oxford DNB article. Regards, Angus McLellan (Talk) 14:24, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the message Finnrind. I hope you keep up the good work on English and Norwegian wiki. If you have any questions you need to ask while translating something or what not, feel free to contact me. Best regards, Deacon of Pndapetzim ( Talk) 21:38, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Saw your comments concerning this. God its awful! However I do applaud Angus's sentiment, as its always easier to destroy than to create .... tempting as it is! Looking forward to exploring your work. Fergananim 22:26, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
Spotted you edit on my page - thanks!! Sarah777 ( talk) 22:49, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
A few quotes from Woolf's Pictland to Alba that may be useful:
"The attacks on Iona are usually associated with a project begun in 807 and completed in 814, the building of a new ciuitas,or major church settlement, at Kells by the abbot Cellach of Iona. [fn: AU 807.4 and 814.9] This has been widely interpreted as a reflection of a growing disquiet on Iona in the context of repeated attacks by heathens. The plan may have been to move the relics of St Columba and the headship of the familia from Iona to Kells, more safely located in the interior of Ireland" [p. 59]
"In the Frankish kingdom the news ... inspired Wahalfrid Strabo, a leading scholar of the day, to compose a poem on Blathmac's martyrdom. In this poem, as Clancy points out, Iona is described as an island of the Picts. [fn: Clancy, "Iona in the kingdom of the Picts", Innes Review 55 (2004)] That Iona was in some sense under Constantín's control may also be hinted at by the claim added to a version of the king-list in the reign of Alexander II (1214-49), that Dunkeld was founded by Constantín. Although we cannot know how old this tradition was he would seem an unusual patron to foist upon the Columban cult at a late date. Dunkeld was to become the chief church of Columba in the kingdom of Alba and it is possible that since Pictish overlordship over Dál Riata seems to have been established in 811, while the building of the new ciuitas at Kells was in progress, this reflects a desire by Constantín to keep the relics of Columba in Scotland. Columba was, after all, the apostle of Fortriu, and it is likely that he, and Iona, occupied a special place in the Pictish mentalité." [pp. 64-54]
"[The Chronicle of the Kings of Alba] claims that in his seventh year Cináed 'conveyed the relics of Columba to the church that he had built'. Cináed's seventh year would seem to be c. 849 and under this year the Annals of Ulster record that 'Indrechtach, abbot of Iona, came to Ireland with the relics of Colum Cille'. [fn. AU 849.7] The simplest reading of these two records together would be that Cináed had built a church in Ireland to which Indrechtach was conveying the relics. This, however, seems unlikely and is not the view taken by most historians. The prevailing view among Scottish historians has been that in 849 the relics of Columba were divided between Kells and Dunkeld. This may have happened but there is little hard evidence for this and the clear division between the communities seems to have occurred at a slightly later date." [pp. 98-99]
Hope this helps. All the best, Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:54, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello Finnrind. Could you please scan the document that I have added for more information. For example the 1912-1914 from Wikicommons does not agree with the 1915 in the article. My Norwegian is basic. I have never learned it, but understand some of what I read and hear. Best regards, gidonb ( talk) 00:48, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
I withdrew my AfD nomination of Farris (mineral water), based in large part to your editorial input to both the article and the AfD discussion. I sincerely hope that my AfD nomination did not create any undue stress. I hope you can accept the following as a token of my appreciation:
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I, Eco Lee Tage, award User:Finnrind with this star for saving Farris (mineral water) from deletion. Please present this barnstar at any participating Oslo supermarket to claim your free six-pack of Farris (mineral water). :) Ecoleetage ( talk) 22:27, 22 June 2008 (UTC) |
"Farris doesn't come in sixpacks - maybe that piece of information should be included in the article ;o)." FYI, Finnrid, we do not get paid by the word. Come to think, we do not get paid at all... How did you say? Darn! gidonb ( talk) 23:22, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for make attention to the Japanese article of "greek letter" yot. I have requested deletion of the article. -- Peccafly- talk- hist 17:05, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Hello, apparently there are no real reliable documents on the battle and number of combatants. Although the past editor added a reference, the context from which it was taken was entirely speculative. The numbers I chose are consistent with almost all the records and articles I have been able to find, both in my library and online. I believe the article needs more information, i.e. a list of the possible and contradicting scenarios. I am new to Wikipedia, and I don't think I would be able to edit that much information. Buachalla77 ( talk) 22:13, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
Under this, my answer to you, I have placed your question for reference. Answer: When one searches for Dag Eliassen, then : 1. one comes to the page that has the most information about him. Partially one does not have to make a stub unnecessarily. Please note that this man is notable : he was a pioneer in FSK. The facts about him, that are on the page, to which one is redirected, establishes
I think that pretty much sums it up. And I hope you do not mind , that I am going to post this Q and A, on the discussion page. Have a pleasent weekend. Sju hav ( talk) 10:49, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Yes. Simultaneous actions. I will discuss with blocking admin. -- Anthony.bradbury "talk" 13:00, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Please see my reply on the BLP noticeboard. It is best to keep our discussion of these topics as public as possible so others can lend help. -- Ryan Delaney talk 14:26, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi Finnrind, Thanks for your helpful comments on Brodir and Ospak of Man. Do you consider that this article is unbalanced as a result of not including the material that you have highlighted? If so I can undo the GA-status; well at least change it to a Hold so that someone can add that material before re-sentencing it. Pyrotec ( talk) 19:22, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the points for consideration at Brodir and Ospak of Man! Since you seem to have some expertise in the subject (medieval Gaelic-Norse relations), I wonder if you could help me with an issue on a related article. I have outlined the problem here — namely, trouble I have been having with differing sources on the Sigtrygg Silkbeard and the Kings of Dublin.
Thanks. -- Grimhelm ( talk) 00:51, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
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Dear Finn,
I have seen you have done a certain amount of editing on some Japanese art subjects. Hasui, Goyo, and Ota Nampo.
I do not know if you have any Art History insights but:
In Art History it is of the outmost importance to have visual examples of the subjects discussed (pretty self evident?).
This is why I recently started to put some relevant links to such images. Most of the art history links in wiki are marred by bad images, dubious works lack of contextual explanations and so on. In the links I provide there are no such blemishes.
I do not really understand how you after a reading time of 35 seconds can decide to delete four links, I am one of the foremost experts on some of the subjects. I would need longer time to establish what is relevant and not.
In erudite academic circles wikipedia has a bad name. It has become known as a playground for "ignorant junior high school teachers" who rewrites and copies entries from books which are either to elementary or they do not have enough knowledge to understand the subject fully. This produce the very low quality entries we can see, for example, within my field, Oriental art history.
No academics I know bother writing anything for wikipedia anymore. It seems as everybody is feed up with having their work trashed by ignoramuses.
What is your curriculum vitae in Japanese art history?
I have a 40 year career as a professional lecturer, curator and writer about Japanese art. I have lived in Japan since 20 years.
I would think you should restudy the material, if you do not feel you can make a profound judgment, you should revert the links to point to the images.
If you judge the links are not relevant you should make a profound argument therefore.
I also see you have removed my previous message to you? Are you afraid of discussing something in a straightforward and honest manner. Or do you just lack respect for other people, their efforts and their knowledge.
Best regards from Tokyo
PS I also noticed you have been editing on the Japanese wiki. Did you read the guide lines, as they are somewhat different from the en.wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.185.152.1 ( talk) 08:31, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
The follwing is copypaste from my user talk at Commons.
Dear Finn,
I have seen you have done a certain amount of editing on some Japanese art subjects. Hasui & Ota Nampo.
I do not know if you have any Art History education or insights but: In Art History it is of the outmost importance to have visual examples of the subjects discussed (pretty self evident?).
This is why I recently started to put some relevant links to such images. Most of the art history links in wiki are mared by bad images, dubious works, lack of contextual explenations and so on. In the links I provide there are no such blemishes.
I have a 40 year career, in Japanese Art History and related fields, as a professional lecturer, curator and writer about Japanese art.
I have lived and worked in Japan since 20 years.
Best regards from a fellow Scandinavian
Please use some common sense when implementing the COIBot reports. Deleting the weblink to the company from its article is just plain nonsense, whoever did insert it. The article may be bad, the article may be not relevant and should be put up for deletion, but deleting the company weblink doesn't solve any of these issues. -- Pjacobi ( talk) 06:46, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
A link to my page does have a right of being in one article of French Wikipedia (at least). Please don't delete it from there. Eliascatcher ( talk) 11:56, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi Finnrind, you removed 4 external links we placed regarding www.sufifinder.com. Please let us know the reason, maybe we made made some error adding these links out of ignorance. Our website "Sufifinder" is made with best intentions to help people to find spiritual groups of any colour all over the world.With kind regards 79.145.127.13 ( talk) 11:55, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for notifying me about the ongoing discussion :-) Maen. K. A. ( talk) 08:33, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
Hello. Please dont kill my links from ISO 8583 wiki pages.
Giants27 15:49, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for informing me of that.-- Sky Attacker Here comes the bird! 01:54, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Hello. Hope you are well. Sorry, I wasn't able to find anything useful on Bishop Wimund. There is an article on him in the Oxford DNB. I don't have online access to that - instead I need to read the actual books, how old fashioned is that? - but the Deacon and Ealdgyth certainly do. If you are asking, Merfyn Frych is also in the ODNB. All the best, Angus McLellan (Talk) 11:27, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Regarding: Copper mine near Llandudno.
I have added a few English words as requested. It's not often I get to writing in my second language as 95% of my life is through the medium of Welsh (Cymraeg). All the best. Llywelyn2000 ( talk) 19:22, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! And yes, I better use the sandbox! Cheers, Fergananim ( talk) 01:33, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the note.
Dublin at this period is usually portrayed as a Norwegian city, though, as the article suggests, it was more likely a mixture of the Gael and the Norse. Sigtryggr himself though was pure Norse. He is said to have married the Árd-Rí's daughter though.
(One change I ought to have made is to change the Norse version of his name from Sigtrygg to Sigtryggr; it would be usual to use the nominative form not the accusative.)
The use of Gaelic names for these Norse rulers is a bit puzzling to a reader. In articles on Irish history it is understandable but the articles are in English and I believe it would be better to use names more familiar to English texts. ("Ímair"? He wasn't called that when he was buring East Anglia and torturing its king!) In Sihtric's case we are using the English version of him name, with the Irish nickname, but that is what does indeed appear in the textbooks.
Howard Alexander ( talk) 20:51, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi, if you read this then this backward communication is working ;) Since you're editing from different ip-adresses, you may have missed the additional encouragements left my myself and Notuncurious on this page. The discussion about the Deisi further illustrates the value of having an account instead of commenting from variuous ip-adresses, mainly for two reasons
Your contributions are most welcome, be it from ip or account, I hope we will see much more from you in the future, one way or the other. Best regards, Finn Rindahl ( talk) 12:50, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
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