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It has been very obvious to me that scare tactics is a way to fund research -- these last eight years in United States are a sad and sorry example of this and people should be afraid of scare tactics first and foremost (if not only). I have really enjoyed sorting through the information and I am looking forward to sorting through some more about it. One of the papers that I found was one that I had talked with a few friends about in the nineties. Then we were discussing Comfrey then (different family, same toxin), whose roots were almost a miracle healer of scars in my opinion and whose leaves tasted horrible! I had read in a book and my waitress friend also mentioned that she had heard this -- that the original studies about the toxicity of this stuff were all based on laboratory experiments where the subjects ate what would be a human equivalent to 5 pounds of these 'salad greens' a day. What wouldn't die from that? I found that paper and I have been trying to purchase it. Not living home (where I have established my own research resources for over 30 years!) has made this and much much much more very difficult for me. 100% of the people that I know in this place not home that I am staying at can only find restaurants. A valuable skill, one that I don't have -- I have this suspicion that restaurants could have been found where I live and all of my skills would have had their tools.</rant>
My first Senecio article was for Common groundsel. Please feel free to review the section for human toxicity there. I like scientists and I like salad and I like not being ridiculous with false claims and fear tactics. I am trying to make the whole tribe Senecioneae articles look good and be as factual and fun to read as cite-able information allows. The genus/tribe is really good at growing where other plants failed and are only poisonous when they are pointing out that there is too much water in the ground for the livestock to be munching there (Staggerwort!). And all of the available information since the late 1800s says this either directly or indirectly. The bacteriologists at the end of the 1800s were buffoons and they were also (interestingly enough) a consensus. It takes time to write it correctly -- and resources which I am unable to find at the restaurants that I have access to here. For a great big, open minded state who has bragged about how intelligent they are and what a melting pot they are and all that, I have several years now of disappointments when looking to see those claims. -- carol ( talk) 10:18, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Falka ( talk) 10:56, 4 March 2008 (UTC) Falka In the UK is a real fear ( hysteria) about sneco species, in the Netherlands to cause the took over the UK information. That is the reason I translated my website ragwort website ragwort myths and facts. Several websites and other media report that the poisons in ragwort (pyrrolizidine alkaloids) can be absorbed through the skin and therefore all skin contact with ragwort plants should be avoided. Maybe yu can look at http://www.ragwort.jakobskruiskruid.com/ under the button 'facts or myths' we debunk some myths, under the button 'backgroud info' we tell a lot about the plant and explain how the poison works or why the plants grows where it grows. I have got a lot help from scientists their names are under the 'advisor page', I have still to translate that page to English.
I am repeating nothing. Why you think that? Why do you suggest that the scienists with I am working are emotionally involved? That is not the way how sciense works.
Falka (
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13:51, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Falka ( talk) 16:21, 4 March 2008 (UTC) I only tried to give you some more information even about the correct scientific name of the plant, but I see you don't want any consultation with oher people. Take a better look at the different ( internatonal) http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobskruiskruid http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slangenkruid http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viltig_kruiskruid http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kruiskruid http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bezemkruiskruid
consultation wiki's and pages and you will see that it has nothing to do with fundrising and I use my wiki account correct.
It would be better if the wiki page is correct, that is why I tried to help you with some information.I think it is important that information is correct. I don't like your agresive mail, I will stop with talking together, I think that is much easier.
Welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you enjoy the encyclopedia and want to stay. As a first step, you may wish to read the Introduction.
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It has been very obvious to me that scare tactics is a way to fund research -- these last eight years in United States are a sad and sorry example of this and people should be afraid of scare tactics first and foremost (if not only). I have really enjoyed sorting through the information and I am looking forward to sorting through some more about it. One of the papers that I found was one that I had talked with a few friends about in the nineties. Then we were discussing Comfrey then (different family, same toxin), whose roots were almost a miracle healer of scars in my opinion and whose leaves tasted horrible! I had read in a book and my waitress friend also mentioned that she had heard this -- that the original studies about the toxicity of this stuff were all based on laboratory experiments where the subjects ate what would be a human equivalent to 5 pounds of these 'salad greens' a day. What wouldn't die from that? I found that paper and I have been trying to purchase it. Not living home (where I have established my own research resources for over 30 years!) has made this and much much much more very difficult for me. 100% of the people that I know in this place not home that I am staying at can only find restaurants. A valuable skill, one that I don't have -- I have this suspicion that restaurants could have been found where I live and all of my skills would have had their tools.</rant>
My first Senecio article was for Common groundsel. Please feel free to review the section for human toxicity there. I like scientists and I like salad and I like not being ridiculous with false claims and fear tactics. I am trying to make the whole tribe Senecioneae articles look good and be as factual and fun to read as cite-able information allows. The genus/tribe is really good at growing where other plants failed and are only poisonous when they are pointing out that there is too much water in the ground for the livestock to be munching there (Staggerwort!). And all of the available information since the late 1800s says this either directly or indirectly. The bacteriologists at the end of the 1800s were buffoons and they were also (interestingly enough) a consensus. It takes time to write it correctly -- and resources which I am unable to find at the restaurants that I have access to here. For a great big, open minded state who has bragged about how intelligent they are and what a melting pot they are and all that, I have several years now of disappointments when looking to see those claims. -- carol ( talk) 10:18, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Falka ( talk) 10:56, 4 March 2008 (UTC) Falka In the UK is a real fear ( hysteria) about sneco species, in the Netherlands to cause the took over the UK information. That is the reason I translated my website ragwort website ragwort myths and facts. Several websites and other media report that the poisons in ragwort (pyrrolizidine alkaloids) can be absorbed through the skin and therefore all skin contact with ragwort plants should be avoided. Maybe yu can look at http://www.ragwort.jakobskruiskruid.com/ under the button 'facts or myths' we debunk some myths, under the button 'backgroud info' we tell a lot about the plant and explain how the poison works or why the plants grows where it grows. I have got a lot help from scientists their names are under the 'advisor page', I have still to translate that page to English.
I am repeating nothing. Why you think that? Why do you suggest that the scienists with I am working are emotionally involved? That is not the way how sciense works.
Falka (
talk)
13:51, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Falka ( talk) 16:21, 4 March 2008 (UTC) I only tried to give you some more information even about the correct scientific name of the plant, but I see you don't want any consultation with oher people. Take a better look at the different ( internatonal) http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobskruiskruid http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slangenkruid http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viltig_kruiskruid http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kruiskruid http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bezemkruiskruid
consultation wiki's and pages and you will see that it has nothing to do with fundrising and I use my wiki account correct.
It would be better if the wiki page is correct, that is why I tried to help you with some information.I think it is important that information is correct. I don't like your agresive mail, I will stop with talking together, I think that is much easier.