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Is this not presumed to have been a non-syllabic [i], part of a (falling) diphthong? It sounds a little misguided to me to say that [j] was lost and not the vowel, especially when we've no idea what the articulatory specifics of it might've been. — Lfdder ( talk) 00:33, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the correction on Ibn Battuta. I must have been confused. Chris Troutman ( talk) 17:09, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi. Please look at: http://postimg.org/image/rs5cg9bbh/034366e6/ - Kwami said "Looks like a bunch of markup language got mixed in, and that they're saying that Turkish cacık comes from Greek τζατζικι " - so, not so much interested in where the Turkish word comes from as trying to find out what this Greek word comes from, such as the English word 'fortress' comes from Old French forteresse "strong place." Thanks! !!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by HammerFilmFan ( talk • contribs) 06:58, August 22, 2013
Hello, the word beige and mer possess the /ɛ/ phoneme, not /ɛː/. When the /ɛ/ phoneme is before the /z, ʒ, v, ʁ/, it becomes automatically [ɛː]. 198.105.126.178 ( talk) 13:18, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
You hear [tɛːt] or [taɪ̯t] ? 198.105.108.2 ( talk) 10:45, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
Is it a diphthong in the second syllable ? 198.105.117.92 ( talk) 22:05, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
This song is in F major or G-flat major ? 198.105.101.46 ( talk) 21:31, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
You hear [tãpɛɪ̯t], [tãpaɪ̯t] or [tãpɐɪ̯t] ? It's difficult to guess. 198.105.109.164 ( talk) 15:24, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Maybe this one is [tɐɪ̯t]. 198.105.109.128 ( talk) 22:22, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
The word caisse is traditionally pronounced /kɛːs/. See http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/caisse 198.105.109.164 ( talk) 20:55, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
What you seem to be claiming is that "isern" underwent rhotacism to "irern" and then subsequently had the second "r" dropped, and THEN underwent metathesis /aɪɹɛn/ -> /aɪɚn/.
While this is indeed a possibility--if not only due to the many dialectual {spelling and pronouncing "dialectal" like that is a force of habit that I don't plan on correcting at this point in time} forms of "isern" that existed in the Old English period, including ones that already had lost the second "r"--is it not also possible that an s-debuccalization happened in some dialects (à la Proto-Celtic *īsarno- -> Old Irish íarn -> Irish iarann) causing the modern pronunciation to exist?
Alternatively, could it not also be a combination of the two? Tharthandorf Aquanashi ( talk) 19:56, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
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Please see my reply if it is helpful. -- Mahmudmasri ( talk) 15:37, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
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Is this not presumed to have been a non-syllabic [i], part of a (falling) diphthong? It sounds a little misguided to me to say that [j] was lost and not the vowel, especially when we've no idea what the articulatory specifics of it might've been. — Lfdder ( talk) 00:33, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the correction on Ibn Battuta. I must have been confused. Chris Troutman ( talk) 17:09, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi. Please look at: http://postimg.org/image/rs5cg9bbh/034366e6/ - Kwami said "Looks like a bunch of markup language got mixed in, and that they're saying that Turkish cacık comes from Greek τζατζικι " - so, not so much interested in where the Turkish word comes from as trying to find out what this Greek word comes from, such as the English word 'fortress' comes from Old French forteresse "strong place." Thanks! !!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by HammerFilmFan ( talk • contribs) 06:58, August 22, 2013
Hello, the word beige and mer possess the /ɛ/ phoneme, not /ɛː/. When the /ɛ/ phoneme is before the /z, ʒ, v, ʁ/, it becomes automatically [ɛː]. 198.105.126.178 ( talk) 13:18, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
You hear [tɛːt] or [taɪ̯t] ? 198.105.108.2 ( talk) 10:45, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
Is it a diphthong in the second syllable ? 198.105.117.92 ( talk) 22:05, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
This song is in F major or G-flat major ? 198.105.101.46 ( talk) 21:31, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
You hear [tãpɛɪ̯t], [tãpaɪ̯t] or [tãpɐɪ̯t] ? It's difficult to guess. 198.105.109.164 ( talk) 15:24, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Maybe this one is [tɐɪ̯t]. 198.105.109.128 ( talk) 22:22, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
The word caisse is traditionally pronounced /kɛːs/. See http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/caisse 198.105.109.164 ( talk) 20:55, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
What you seem to be claiming is that "isern" underwent rhotacism to "irern" and then subsequently had the second "r" dropped, and THEN underwent metathesis /aɪɹɛn/ -> /aɪɚn/.
While this is indeed a possibility--if not only due to the many dialectual {spelling and pronouncing "dialectal" like that is a force of habit that I don't plan on correcting at this point in time} forms of "isern" that existed in the Old English period, including ones that already had lost the second "r"--is it not also possible that an s-debuccalization happened in some dialects (à la Proto-Celtic *īsarno- -> Old Irish íarn -> Irish iarann) causing the modern pronunciation to exist?
Alternatively, could it not also be a combination of the two? Tharthandorf Aquanashi ( talk) 19:56, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
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00:31, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
Please see my reply if it is helpful. -- Mahmudmasri ( talk) 15:37, 30 November 2013 (UTC)