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Not entirely sure you'll remember this little article I was working on, but it grew. I've just nominated it for FA status, and I'm actually very excited. Working on this article has made me realize that, if I'm dedicated enough, I could probably help a lot of my favourite films get to at least GA, and that's something I never thought I'd manage before. I just wanted to thank you for all of your help, both directly on this article early on and in general in all of our collaboration since. You've been a fantastic unofficial mentor, and I'd be happy to help you with any articles or projects you're working on. Corvoe (speak to me) 14:41, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
Corvoe, if you need additional feedback, you could ask the primary editor for The Whistleblower (see stalled FAC) to review your FAC and say that you can review their article when it is renominated. (I plan to review it myself; I had previously read it but did not make any comments). Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 20:17, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
Corvoe, I haven't forgotten the FAC! Hoping to review the copy-editing changes tomorrow to confirm my support. Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 03:16, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
The topic of this film meets the basic notability standards but has not begun filming. As it is pushing at WP:NFF (paragraph 3), our policy tells us it can be spoken some place. I think the director's article is the best place. What say? Schmidt, Michael Q. 21:17, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
I thank you again for your response to me on The Two Faces of January for changing it from "American" to "English-language. I have in the past tried to change pages with similar issues. I came in to trouble with an editor called Flyer22 ( talk) who from what I could see for no god reason came to an instant dislike against me on Avatar (2009 film), a co-production labeled "American", even though I used a reference to a policy before leaving a polite message on his talk page. I have promised not to continue in the matter as I am not liked and will just make the matter worse. I would like to ask if you could please look in to the matter if you have time as you are arguably one of the best film editors on Wikipedia. Thank You for your time. WARNER one ( talk) 21:00, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
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The trailer for this film was just released and I've noticed a number of articles discussing the ethnicity of the cast. This article actually links to the Wikipedia article: Ancient Egyptian race controversy. I was wondering if it was mentioning in the article. There is a similar discussion at The_Last_Airbender#Casting_controversy. Thoughts?-- TriiipleThreat ( talk) 21:15, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
All right, so I think we're down to a waiting game for The FP; I really can't find any more changes to make. So, while I know we said we were going to work on Children of Men, I personally think we should focus our efforts on getting Edge of Tomorrow up to GA. I know I said I would work on that Reception section, and I actually will. I'm planning to after dinner today, which will be around 23:00 UTC so feel free to get on me if I haven't started by then. The one for Neighbors isn't going anywhere, and that article isn't nearly as close to GA as Edge of Tomorrow is, so it can wait. Anyhoo, after we get Edge up to GA, I think we should then go for Children of Men up to FA, and then see what else we can improve. We're like the Dynamic Duo, except both of us are Batman. What do you think? Corvoe (speak to me) 22:02, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
All right, so I finally have some free time (family was down this weekend), so I'm wondering; apart from a VFX section (which I've started working on in a .txt document) and a copy-edit pass through, what are we thinking we need to get Edge up to GA? Corvoe (be heard) 16:57, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of film accents considered the worst is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of film accents considered the worst (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Any opinion? Schmidt, Michael Q. 15:09, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
Hello Erik; I see that you improved the Second weekend in box office performance article, but why put links to it into several other movie articles in their See also section, i.e. [1]? It seems that any movie will have a second weekend, so why do those particular articles need a link to that article? Prhartcom ( talk) 17:55, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
@ Prhartcom: Please stop removing the "See also" sections; they are not detrimental to have in the first place. It is an improvement to put the link into the article body, yes, but taking it out entirely is going backwards. Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 21:01, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
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I just find out two questionable sources on Critical response section below: Schmoes Know and Matt's Movie Reviews. Can remove them? 183.171.170.70 ( talk) 06:26, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
Given that White savior narrative in film provides a source for Lawrence of Arabia, would it not be better to add an appropriate statement to the article utilizing the appropriate source, rather than implying that the film is such a narrative without providing a source? DonIago ( talk) 13:56, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
I have raised a concern about a recent review added to American Beauty (1999 film). Since you are a frequent editor perhaps you could give your opinion at Talk:American_Beauty_(1999_film)#Nostalgia_Critic. The format of the review in question is quite unusual which is why I would like to see what other people make of it (i.e. a comedian satirizing film criticism giving an unusually serious review under the guise of his comic creation). Betty Logan ( talk) 22:31, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
Does anybody know when the film Djinn will be released in the United States?-- Paleface Jack ( talk) 18:24, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi - Wheeler Winston Dixon here.
Michael Q. Schmidt suggested I get in touch with you as a person who specializes in film matters for Wikipedia.
It's about the Wikipedia page for QRFV, at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarterly_Review_of_Film_and_Video
To be precise, he said "you might also reach out to User:Erik /info/en/?search=User:Erik. He has been around longer than I and has knowledge I may not. As there is no specific guideline criteria for academic journals, falling back on ONLY the WP:GNG is a lazy way to remove a topic. Since it is something used in academia and is available in hardcopy, WP:TEXTBOOKS is the one that fits... and IT does not require a meeting of WP:GNG because of the nature of the subject, at /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Notability_(books)#Academic_and_technical_books ..."
The journal I edit, QUARTERLY REVIEW OF FILM AND VIDEO, is having a hot and heavy discussion as to possible deletion and notability on its Wikipedia page. Schmidt, Randykitty, you and others argue to keep the page; others not. As I pointed out to Michael, though print runs are minimal in the digital era, 1,724 libraries subscribed to QRFV online in 2012, and full text downloads of journal articles in 2012 were 45,118 on a worldwide basis. QRFV's 2012 subscription totals spanned 7 global regions in 37 countries. QRFV has been published since 1976 by Taylor and Francis, an imprint of Routledge, and edited by myself and Gwendolyn Audrey Foster since 1999, and in that time we have published literally thousands of articles on a quarterly basis by some of the top scholars in the field -- if you look in the page's history, you can see their names, which have been blanked out by the most recent edit. Our editorial board is also filled with the top names in academic film criticism.
Quarterly Review of Film & Video is Abstracted/Indexed with the following services: • Chadwyck‐Healey: FIAF International Index to Film Periodicals; PIO ‐ Periodicals Index Online • CSA: Communication Abstracts Online • EBSCOhost: Academic Search Alumni Edition; Academic Search Complete; Academic Search Elite; Academic Search Premier; Art & Architecture Complete; Art & Architecture Index; Art Source; Communication & Mass Media Complete; Communication Abstracts Online; Current Abstracts; Film & Television Literature Index; Film & Television Literature Index with Full Text; Humanities International Complete; Humanities International Index; Humanities Source; Russian Academy of Sciences Bibliographies; TOC Premier • Elsevier BV: Scopus • H.W. Wilson: Art Abstracts; Art Full Text; Art Index; Biography Index; Book Review Digest Plus; Humanities & Social Sciences Index Retrospective; Humanities Abstracts; Humanities Full Text; Humanities Index (Online); Humanities Index Retrospective; Omnifile Full Text Mega • OCLC: ArticleFirst; Electronic Collections Online; Humanities Index (Online); Periodical Abstracts • Ovid: FIAF Databases • ProQuest: Arts Module; Professional ProQuest Central; ProQuest 5000; ProQuest 5000 International; ProQuest Central; ProQuest Research Library • Modern Library Association: MLA International Bibliography • Thomson Reuters: Arts and Humanities Search
In 2012, QRFV was featured at the following conferences:
Modern Language Association January Joint Annual Conference of the MeCCSA and AMPE January Western States Communication Association Southwestern PCA/ACA‐Popular Studies Association/American Culture Association AEJMC Midwinter Meeting Conference on Literature and Film Society for Cinema and Media Studies 4 Cs – NCTE – Conference for College Composition and Communication Northeast Modern Language Association Southern States Communication Association Media History and History in the Media Central States Communication Association New Jersey Communication Association College Art Association Eastern Communication Association PCA/ACA Annual Meeting Broadcast Education Association RTNDA‐Radio‐Television News Directors Association International Communication Association Rhetoric Society of America Summer Institute International Visual Sociology Association International Association for Media and Communication Research University Film & Video Conference American Sociological Association Association for Education in Journalism and Mass Communication Midwest Popular Culture Association Northeast Popular Culture Association National Communication Association American Society for the History of Rhetoric European Communication Research Conference
As Michael explained to me, "the easiest (laziest) way by which editors determine Wikipedia-type notability is through use of WP:GNG.
/info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Notability#General_notability_guideline
What does address academic journals is WP:NJournals
/info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Notability_(academic_journals)
but this is an essay
/info/en/?search=Wikipedia:The_value_of_essays
and while is has applicability it does not have the same weight in discussions as do guidelines or policies."
You know all this, I certainly don't. I don't contribute to Wikipedia -- just too complex. However, I ask that you intervene and bring this discussion to a conclusion at the very least, so that the "not notable" tag goes away, and the article isn't deleted. I should also point out that our tenure as editors expires on December 31, 2014, when the journal will be edited by David Sterritt, but I just don't think this is fair to the journal.
Michael pointed out to me that "the closing of an AFD is described at /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion#How_an_AfD_discussion_is_closed -- is there some way we can bring some additional people in here, get a consensus, and get this solved.
Having said that, I'm bowing out. I leave it to you to do what you see fit, but I would like to see this matter resolved -- I'll just look on the page in a few days and see what's happened.
With all best wishes, and thanks for your time,
Wheeler Winston Dixon — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.190.161.55 ( talk) 05:17, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the discussion. Our school librarian pulled these references to QRFV:
Ulrich's guide to periodicals lists the journal as being indexed by several companies: http://0-ulrichsweb.serialssolutions.com.library.unl.edu/title/1413132255020/281 332 -
ACRL (assoc. of college, research libraries) lists your journal here: http://wikis.ala.org/acrl/index.php/Film_Studies
Here's (one of many) syllabi that includes your journal in a listing of potential research sources: https://faculty.washington.edu/mlg/courses/464Su03/FilmJournals.doc
Here's one of many library guides that includes the journal among other sources: http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/filmstudies/reviewslist.html
Worldcat indicates 467 libraries subscribe to qrfv: http://www.worldcat.org/title /quarterly-review-of-film-and-video-qrfv/oclc/19693646&referer=brief_results
Hopefully this will be of some help. WWD — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.23.200.117 ( talk) 17:19, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
I have re-added the notability template to the Box Office Mojo article. See this talk page section, maybe add your views there? -- 82.136.210.153 ( talk) 22:10, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
thumbs up for your strong and tireless work on the Interstellar article. Here's a kitten that I hope will radiate some warm and fuzzy feelings, I'm sure those will be needed in the days leading up to release.
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Hi. I saw that u created the article on the film State 194 (film). Great work on article. Good info on a little known film. The film is written, directed and produced by Dan Setton. However there is no article on him. I googled in but couldn't find much info on him. If u have any info on him please let me know. -- Naveed ( talk) 20:13, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
This is a neutral notice for a discussion about the box office section of this film. Spinc5 ( talk) 16:10, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
Also posted to the TFAR subpage:
Erik, It will be about ten (10) months time between the TFAs, which is almost one year. And multiple users at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Fuck (film) had opposed, last time, because it was up for a non-specific date and they wanted a date related to freedom of speech and censorship. So it was taking into account those comments from the last discussion, Erik, which is why I chose to nominate for this particular date. I hope you will reconsider, — Cirt ( talk) 14:47, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
Since I'm not sure if you completely read the old discussions you archived, Toto is a long established professional critic who reviewed films for the Washington Times for years, has been cited cited by Rotten Tomatoes 695 times and counting, was hired by Breitbart (a major news/opinion site, not a group blog) a couple of years ago as an entertainment editor and feature reviewer, is a member of the Broadcast Film Critics Association, and has had his reviews quoted by other media outlets. Do you see the difference between him and the quoted Kos and Salon.com bloggers, who (to my knowledge) are none of those things? It would be a mistake to equate or lump them together, unless we were lumping all the pro critics and pundits together. VictorD7 ( talk) 03:34, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
This should necessarily be included in the list of White Savior films, along with Dangerous Minds. Here's an article from which to point additional sources on the topic: http://www.academia.edu/4883344/Do_the_White_Thing_An_Analysis_of_the_White_Teacher_Saviour_Film_as_a_Colonial_Civilizing_Mission_Narrative
DesGlas ( talk) 11:05, 8 November 2014 (UTC)DesGlas
Is not a social construct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.31.45.93 ( talk • contribs) 01:59, November 15, 2014
Hello Erik. I hope that you are well. I can't remember which MOS has the instruction about using "is" in the lede section for films, TV shows etc. I want to copy it into my list of useful links and templates. I am hoping that you know where it is but if you no worries. Enjoy your weekend! MarnetteD| Talk 17:27, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
Hey man! I haven't talked to you in awhile. How've you been? See anything good lately? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sock ( talk • contribs) 12:03, November 19, 2014
Hi. Regarding Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Film#External_links, I'm a bit confused about the wording. I'm trying to apply it to a GA review of Edge of Tomorrow. In that article, the external links section includes links to Box Office Mojo, Rotten Tomatoes, and Metacritic. However, these same links already appear in the references. Should the ext. links section duplicate them as well? Viriditas ( talk) 04:35, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
Hi. Hope you're well. I was wondering when films are released in film festivals such as in Venice. Would that count as its release date or would the date it was first seen by the public count? The one I was querying was Killer Joe. Its premiere in Venice was Sep 2011 but its North American release was July 2012. So does it count as 2011 release or a 2012 release? Cowlibob ( talk) 17:33, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
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Thanks for helping assess Edge of Tomorrow for the GA review and taking a lead role in editing and offering tips for improvement. Your opinion was valuable and insightful. Viriditas ( talk) 04:07, 9 December 2014 (UTC) |
Big fan of your work in relation to film articles on Wikipedia, it makes me happy to see someone who enjoys teaching the public about films, weather good ones or bad! I deleted the earlier post as i didn't know if was bad etiquette to post these sorts of messages on peoples boards. But thanks for reaching out and agreeing to review/edit work i do as even though i may know a lot about film, i know nothing about how wikipedia works and your insights will be invaluable! — Preceding unsigned comment added by FilmLover91 ( talk • contribs) 10:01, December 19, 2014
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Erik, I'd like to discuss a few changes to the White Savior narrative page that I truly believe are reasonable and will address my issues with the page and the criticisms of many others (they're there, even if you had more stamina than all of them but me). Because you have so much ownership of that page, they won't happen unless you get on board. I know you are skeptical of me because I wanted to delete the page. I should explain that I only voted that way because I believed the page required some serious work and would do better with a fresh start. I never have believed that this trope does not exist. You have convinced me that it easily passes WP:NOTABILITY, and as was pointed out multiple times, articles should not be deleted for cleanup. So with that, I'd like to work with you to address what I think are serious problems with the page, that can be fixed with some minimal changes. Some are changes you probably won't like, and if you decide to dig your heels into the ground I won't be able to make them. However, I do think that you'll get fewer people like me disrupting your work, so it will be to your benefit. If you're willing to give a little ground, let me know and we'll talk.
Captain Stack (talk) 20:30, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
P.S. I used to be a writer and editor for the Arts & Leisure section of a newspaper. My involvement in this page is because I care a lot about film and think how we discuss it matters a lot. Captain Stack (talk) 20:30, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
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Per WP:CSC #1, essentially, if redlinked and verifiable it can be used. Nevertheless, when you make such edits on lists within tables please take a second to adjust the table syntax (e.g., rowspan) as you break table layout when you simply delete an item. These series of edits are disruptive since editors watching those pages have to fix the errors from each of those edits. -- Lapadite ( talk) 00:21, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
about this... the longest article I've written to date and a fine way to wind up 2014:
The Centrifuge Brain Project.
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You think I've established here that Till Nowak meets WP:CREATIVE though WP:ANYBIO? LOL Schmidt, Michael Q. 05:48, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
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this discussion about Boyhood's "See also" section. Since it was realized that several films had been shot over several years, I made a list page called
List of films shot over several years (I'm so clever with my titling). While I think the table and its information look pretty good, I honestly have no idea what to put in the lead. Since you tend to be really good with these kinds of articles, I was wondering if you could give me a hand. Thank you, and happy new year! I'll get cracking on CoM soon, don't you worry.
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Chuck Palahniuk posted a link to jackdurden.com on his Facebook page. He seems to enjoy provoking theories about the Fight Club characters based on interpretations of the film's dialog and visuals. This one contends that Marla, Bob, and possibly others were also invented personalities of the narrator's. (And, the site seems to have gone down due to the increased traffic, but here is the cached version.) -- Laser brain (talk) 20:42, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed that you reverted my edit on Black and white hat symbolism in film, and I thought I should explain myself. Category:Western (genre) characters is a container category, and I was trying to clean it out, and I felt that since the article is not specifically about a character, it should have the category removed, though I can understand why it would be categorized there and will defer to your judgement. Thanks spiderjerky ( talk) 19:22, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
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Not entirely sure you'll remember this little article I was working on, but it grew. I've just nominated it for FA status, and I'm actually very excited. Working on this article has made me realize that, if I'm dedicated enough, I could probably help a lot of my favourite films get to at least GA, and that's something I never thought I'd manage before. I just wanted to thank you for all of your help, both directly on this article early on and in general in all of our collaboration since. You've been a fantastic unofficial mentor, and I'd be happy to help you with any articles or projects you're working on. Corvoe (speak to me) 14:41, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
Corvoe, if you need additional feedback, you could ask the primary editor for The Whistleblower (see stalled FAC) to review your FAC and say that you can review their article when it is renominated. (I plan to review it myself; I had previously read it but did not make any comments). Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 20:17, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
Corvoe, I haven't forgotten the FAC! Hoping to review the copy-editing changes tomorrow to confirm my support. Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 03:16, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
The topic of this film meets the basic notability standards but has not begun filming. As it is pushing at WP:NFF (paragraph 3), our policy tells us it can be spoken some place. I think the director's article is the best place. What say? Schmidt, Michael Q. 21:17, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
I thank you again for your response to me on The Two Faces of January for changing it from "American" to "English-language. I have in the past tried to change pages with similar issues. I came in to trouble with an editor called Flyer22 ( talk) who from what I could see for no god reason came to an instant dislike against me on Avatar (2009 film), a co-production labeled "American", even though I used a reference to a policy before leaving a polite message on his talk page. I have promised not to continue in the matter as I am not liked and will just make the matter worse. I would like to ask if you could please look in to the matter if you have time as you are arguably one of the best film editors on Wikipedia. Thank You for your time. WARNER one ( talk) 21:00, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
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The trailer for this film was just released and I've noticed a number of articles discussing the ethnicity of the cast. This article actually links to the Wikipedia article: Ancient Egyptian race controversy. I was wondering if it was mentioning in the article. There is a similar discussion at The_Last_Airbender#Casting_controversy. Thoughts?-- TriiipleThreat ( talk) 21:15, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
All right, so I think we're down to a waiting game for The FP; I really can't find any more changes to make. So, while I know we said we were going to work on Children of Men, I personally think we should focus our efforts on getting Edge of Tomorrow up to GA. I know I said I would work on that Reception section, and I actually will. I'm planning to after dinner today, which will be around 23:00 UTC so feel free to get on me if I haven't started by then. The one for Neighbors isn't going anywhere, and that article isn't nearly as close to GA as Edge of Tomorrow is, so it can wait. Anyhoo, after we get Edge up to GA, I think we should then go for Children of Men up to FA, and then see what else we can improve. We're like the Dynamic Duo, except both of us are Batman. What do you think? Corvoe (speak to me) 22:02, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
All right, so I finally have some free time (family was down this weekend), so I'm wondering; apart from a VFX section (which I've started working on in a .txt document) and a copy-edit pass through, what are we thinking we need to get Edge up to GA? Corvoe (be heard) 16:57, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of film accents considered the worst is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of film accents considered the worst (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Any opinion? Schmidt, Michael Q. 15:09, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
Hello Erik; I see that you improved the Second weekend in box office performance article, but why put links to it into several other movie articles in their See also section, i.e. [1]? It seems that any movie will have a second weekend, so why do those particular articles need a link to that article? Prhartcom ( talk) 17:55, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
@ Prhartcom: Please stop removing the "See also" sections; they are not detrimental to have in the first place. It is an improvement to put the link into the article body, yes, but taking it out entirely is going backwards. Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 21:01, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
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I am both pleased and honored to present you with the Researcher's Barnstar in appreciation for your superb work in creating Draft:English-language accents in film as a decent solution to the perceived problems with List of film accents considered the worst. Excellent work! Schmidt, Michael Q. 19:18, 11 September 2014 (UTC) |
I just find out two questionable sources on Critical response section below: Schmoes Know and Matt's Movie Reviews. Can remove them? 183.171.170.70 ( talk) 06:26, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
Given that White savior narrative in film provides a source for Lawrence of Arabia, would it not be better to add an appropriate statement to the article utilizing the appropriate source, rather than implying that the film is such a narrative without providing a source? DonIago ( talk) 13:56, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
I have raised a concern about a recent review added to American Beauty (1999 film). Since you are a frequent editor perhaps you could give your opinion at Talk:American_Beauty_(1999_film)#Nostalgia_Critic. The format of the review in question is quite unusual which is why I would like to see what other people make of it (i.e. a comedian satirizing film criticism giving an unusually serious review under the guise of his comic creation). Betty Logan ( talk) 22:31, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
Does anybody know when the film Djinn will be released in the United States?-- Paleface Jack ( talk) 18:24, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi - Wheeler Winston Dixon here.
Michael Q. Schmidt suggested I get in touch with you as a person who specializes in film matters for Wikipedia.
It's about the Wikipedia page for QRFV, at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarterly_Review_of_Film_and_Video
To be precise, he said "you might also reach out to User:Erik /info/en/?search=User:Erik. He has been around longer than I and has knowledge I may not. As there is no specific guideline criteria for academic journals, falling back on ONLY the WP:GNG is a lazy way to remove a topic. Since it is something used in academia and is available in hardcopy, WP:TEXTBOOKS is the one that fits... and IT does not require a meeting of WP:GNG because of the nature of the subject, at /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Notability_(books)#Academic_and_technical_books ..."
The journal I edit, QUARTERLY REVIEW OF FILM AND VIDEO, is having a hot and heavy discussion as to possible deletion and notability on its Wikipedia page. Schmidt, Randykitty, you and others argue to keep the page; others not. As I pointed out to Michael, though print runs are minimal in the digital era, 1,724 libraries subscribed to QRFV online in 2012, and full text downloads of journal articles in 2012 were 45,118 on a worldwide basis. QRFV's 2012 subscription totals spanned 7 global regions in 37 countries. QRFV has been published since 1976 by Taylor and Francis, an imprint of Routledge, and edited by myself and Gwendolyn Audrey Foster since 1999, and in that time we have published literally thousands of articles on a quarterly basis by some of the top scholars in the field -- if you look in the page's history, you can see their names, which have been blanked out by the most recent edit. Our editorial board is also filled with the top names in academic film criticism.
Quarterly Review of Film & Video is Abstracted/Indexed with the following services: • Chadwyck‐Healey: FIAF International Index to Film Periodicals; PIO ‐ Periodicals Index Online • CSA: Communication Abstracts Online • EBSCOhost: Academic Search Alumni Edition; Academic Search Complete; Academic Search Elite; Academic Search Premier; Art & Architecture Complete; Art & Architecture Index; Art Source; Communication & Mass Media Complete; Communication Abstracts Online; Current Abstracts; Film & Television Literature Index; Film & Television Literature Index with Full Text; Humanities International Complete; Humanities International Index; Humanities Source; Russian Academy of Sciences Bibliographies; TOC Premier • Elsevier BV: Scopus • H.W. Wilson: Art Abstracts; Art Full Text; Art Index; Biography Index; Book Review Digest Plus; Humanities & Social Sciences Index Retrospective; Humanities Abstracts; Humanities Full Text; Humanities Index (Online); Humanities Index Retrospective; Omnifile Full Text Mega • OCLC: ArticleFirst; Electronic Collections Online; Humanities Index (Online); Periodical Abstracts • Ovid: FIAF Databases • ProQuest: Arts Module; Professional ProQuest Central; ProQuest 5000; ProQuest 5000 International; ProQuest Central; ProQuest Research Library • Modern Library Association: MLA International Bibliography • Thomson Reuters: Arts and Humanities Search
In 2012, QRFV was featured at the following conferences:
Modern Language Association January Joint Annual Conference of the MeCCSA and AMPE January Western States Communication Association Southwestern PCA/ACA‐Popular Studies Association/American Culture Association AEJMC Midwinter Meeting Conference on Literature and Film Society for Cinema and Media Studies 4 Cs – NCTE – Conference for College Composition and Communication Northeast Modern Language Association Southern States Communication Association Media History and History in the Media Central States Communication Association New Jersey Communication Association College Art Association Eastern Communication Association PCA/ACA Annual Meeting Broadcast Education Association RTNDA‐Radio‐Television News Directors Association International Communication Association Rhetoric Society of America Summer Institute International Visual Sociology Association International Association for Media and Communication Research University Film & Video Conference American Sociological Association Association for Education in Journalism and Mass Communication Midwest Popular Culture Association Northeast Popular Culture Association National Communication Association American Society for the History of Rhetoric European Communication Research Conference
As Michael explained to me, "the easiest (laziest) way by which editors determine Wikipedia-type notability is through use of WP:GNG.
/info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Notability#General_notability_guideline
What does address academic journals is WP:NJournals
/info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Notability_(academic_journals)
but this is an essay
/info/en/?search=Wikipedia:The_value_of_essays
and while is has applicability it does not have the same weight in discussions as do guidelines or policies."
You know all this, I certainly don't. I don't contribute to Wikipedia -- just too complex. However, I ask that you intervene and bring this discussion to a conclusion at the very least, so that the "not notable" tag goes away, and the article isn't deleted. I should also point out that our tenure as editors expires on December 31, 2014, when the journal will be edited by David Sterritt, but I just don't think this is fair to the journal.
Michael pointed out to me that "the closing of an AFD is described at /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion#How_an_AfD_discussion_is_closed -- is there some way we can bring some additional people in here, get a consensus, and get this solved.
Having said that, I'm bowing out. I leave it to you to do what you see fit, but I would like to see this matter resolved -- I'll just look on the page in a few days and see what's happened.
With all best wishes, and thanks for your time,
Wheeler Winston Dixon — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.190.161.55 ( talk) 05:17, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the discussion. Our school librarian pulled these references to QRFV:
Ulrich's guide to periodicals lists the journal as being indexed by several companies: http://0-ulrichsweb.serialssolutions.com.library.unl.edu/title/1413132255020/281 332 -
ACRL (assoc. of college, research libraries) lists your journal here: http://wikis.ala.org/acrl/index.php/Film_Studies
Here's (one of many) syllabi that includes your journal in a listing of potential research sources: https://faculty.washington.edu/mlg/courses/464Su03/FilmJournals.doc
Here's one of many library guides that includes the journal among other sources: http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/filmstudies/reviewslist.html
Worldcat indicates 467 libraries subscribe to qrfv: http://www.worldcat.org/title /quarterly-review-of-film-and-video-qrfv/oclc/19693646&referer=brief_results
Hopefully this will be of some help. WWD — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.23.200.117 ( talk) 17:19, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
I have re-added the notability template to the Box Office Mojo article. See this talk page section, maybe add your views there? -- 82.136.210.153 ( talk) 22:10, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
thumbs up for your strong and tireless work on the Interstellar article. Here's a kitten that I hope will radiate some warm and fuzzy feelings, I'm sure those will be needed in the days leading up to release.
Sammyjankis88 (
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16:52, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi. I saw that u created the article on the film State 194 (film). Great work on article. Good info on a little known film. The film is written, directed and produced by Dan Setton. However there is no article on him. I googled in but couldn't find much info on him. If u have any info on him please let me know. -- Naveed ( talk) 20:13, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
This is a neutral notice for a discussion about the box office section of this film. Spinc5 ( talk) 16:10, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
Also posted to the TFAR subpage:
Erik, It will be about ten (10) months time between the TFAs, which is almost one year. And multiple users at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Fuck (film) had opposed, last time, because it was up for a non-specific date and they wanted a date related to freedom of speech and censorship. So it was taking into account those comments from the last discussion, Erik, which is why I chose to nominate for this particular date. I hope you will reconsider, — Cirt ( talk) 14:47, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
Since I'm not sure if you completely read the old discussions you archived, Toto is a long established professional critic who reviewed films for the Washington Times for years, has been cited cited by Rotten Tomatoes 695 times and counting, was hired by Breitbart (a major news/opinion site, not a group blog) a couple of years ago as an entertainment editor and feature reviewer, is a member of the Broadcast Film Critics Association, and has had his reviews quoted by other media outlets. Do you see the difference between him and the quoted Kos and Salon.com bloggers, who (to my knowledge) are none of those things? It would be a mistake to equate or lump them together, unless we were lumping all the pro critics and pundits together. VictorD7 ( talk) 03:34, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
This should necessarily be included in the list of White Savior films, along with Dangerous Minds. Here's an article from which to point additional sources on the topic: http://www.academia.edu/4883344/Do_the_White_Thing_An_Analysis_of_the_White_Teacher_Saviour_Film_as_a_Colonial_Civilizing_Mission_Narrative
DesGlas ( talk) 11:05, 8 November 2014 (UTC)DesGlas
Is not a social construct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.31.45.93 ( talk • contribs) 01:59, November 15, 2014
Hello Erik. I hope that you are well. I can't remember which MOS has the instruction about using "is" in the lede section for films, TV shows etc. I want to copy it into my list of useful links and templates. I am hoping that you know where it is but if you no worries. Enjoy your weekend! MarnetteD| Talk 17:27, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
Hey man! I haven't talked to you in awhile. How've you been? See anything good lately? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sock ( talk • contribs) 12:03, November 19, 2014
Hi. Regarding Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Film#External_links, I'm a bit confused about the wording. I'm trying to apply it to a GA review of Edge of Tomorrow. In that article, the external links section includes links to Box Office Mojo, Rotten Tomatoes, and Metacritic. However, these same links already appear in the references. Should the ext. links section duplicate them as well? Viriditas ( talk) 04:35, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
Hi. Hope you're well. I was wondering when films are released in film festivals such as in Venice. Would that count as its release date or would the date it was first seen by the public count? The one I was querying was Killer Joe. Its premiere in Venice was Sep 2011 but its North American release was July 2012. So does it count as 2011 release or a 2012 release? Cowlibob ( talk) 17:33, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
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The Editor's Barnstar |
Thanks for helping assess Edge of Tomorrow for the GA review and taking a lead role in editing and offering tips for improvement. Your opinion was valuable and insightful. Viriditas ( talk) 04:07, 9 December 2014 (UTC) |
Big fan of your work in relation to film articles on Wikipedia, it makes me happy to see someone who enjoys teaching the public about films, weather good ones or bad! I deleted the earlier post as i didn't know if was bad etiquette to post these sorts of messages on peoples boards. But thanks for reaching out and agreeing to review/edit work i do as even though i may know a lot about film, i know nothing about how wikipedia works and your insights will be invaluable! — Preceding unsigned comment added by FilmLover91 ( talk • contribs) 10:01, December 19, 2014
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Erik, I'd like to discuss a few changes to the White Savior narrative page that I truly believe are reasonable and will address my issues with the page and the criticisms of many others (they're there, even if you had more stamina than all of them but me). Because you have so much ownership of that page, they won't happen unless you get on board. I know you are skeptical of me because I wanted to delete the page. I should explain that I only voted that way because I believed the page required some serious work and would do better with a fresh start. I never have believed that this trope does not exist. You have convinced me that it easily passes WP:NOTABILITY, and as was pointed out multiple times, articles should not be deleted for cleanup. So with that, I'd like to work with you to address what I think are serious problems with the page, that can be fixed with some minimal changes. Some are changes you probably won't like, and if you decide to dig your heels into the ground I won't be able to make them. However, I do think that you'll get fewer people like me disrupting your work, so it will be to your benefit. If you're willing to give a little ground, let me know and we'll talk.
Captain Stack (talk) 20:30, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
P.S. I used to be a writer and editor for the Arts & Leisure section of a newspaper. My involvement in this page is because I care a lot about film and think how we discuss it matters a lot. Captain Stack (talk) 20:30, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
Hi Erik! As a Steward I'm involved in the upcoming unification of all accounts organized by the Wikimedia Foundation (see m:Single User Login finalisation announcement). By looking at your your account, I realized that you don't have a global account yet. In order to secure your name, I recommend you to create such account on your own by submitting your password on Special:MergeAccount and unifying your local accounts. If you have any problems with doing that or further questions, please don't hesitate to ping me with {{ping|DerHexer}}. Cheers, — DerHexer (Talk) 01:26, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
Per WP:CSC #1, essentially, if redlinked and verifiable it can be used. Nevertheless, when you make such edits on lists within tables please take a second to adjust the table syntax (e.g., rowspan) as you break table layout when you simply delete an item. These series of edits are disruptive since editors watching those pages have to fix the errors from each of those edits. -- Lapadite ( talk) 00:21, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
about this... the longest article I've written to date and a fine way to wind up 2014:
The Centrifuge Brain Project.
Schmidt,
Michael Q.
22:49, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
You think I've established here that Till Nowak meets WP:CREATIVE though WP:ANYBIO? LOL Schmidt, Michael Q. 05:48, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
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Hey Erik! Sorry I haven't kept in great touch about Children of Men. The holidays got me pretty pre-occupied and I haven't managed to do a whole lot of large-scale editing. However, I did make a small page in response to
this discussion about Boyhood's "See also" section. Since it was realized that several films had been shot over several years, I made a list page called
List of films shot over several years (I'm so clever with my titling). While I think the table and its information look pretty good, I honestly have no idea what to put in the lead. Since you tend to be really good with these kinds of articles, I was wondering if you could give me a hand. Thank you, and happy new year! I'll get cracking on CoM soon, don't you worry.
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Chuck Palahniuk posted a link to jackdurden.com on his Facebook page. He seems to enjoy provoking theories about the Fight Club characters based on interpretations of the film's dialog and visuals. This one contends that Marla, Bob, and possibly others were also invented personalities of the narrator's. (And, the site seems to have gone down due to the increased traffic, but here is the cached version.) -- Laser brain (talk) 20:42, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed that you reverted my edit on Black and white hat symbolism in film, and I thought I should explain myself. Category:Western (genre) characters is a container category, and I was trying to clean it out, and I felt that since the article is not specifically about a character, it should have the category removed, though I can understand why it would be categorized there and will defer to your judgement. Thanks spiderjerky ( talk) 19:22, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
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