Welcome to Wikipedia!
Welcome to Wikipedia, Dwy! I'm Celestianpower. I noticed that you were new and/or have yet to receive any messages so I just thought I'd pop in to say "hello". Hello. Wikipedia can be a little intimidating at first, since it's so big but we won't bite so Be Bold and get what you know down in microchips! If you do make a mistake, that's fine, we'll assume good faith and just correct you: it'll take a few seconds maximum! Here, however, are a few links to get you started:
There are lots of policies and guidelines to get to grips with but they all make your life easier and your stay more fun in the long run. If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page or add {{ helpme}} to your userpage - someone will come very, very quickly to your aid. Please be sure to sign your posts on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~) to produce your name and the current date, along with a link to your user page. This way, others know when you left a message and how to find you. It's easier than having to type out your name, right? ;)
I hope you enjoy contributing to Wikipedia. We can use all the help we can get! Have a great time, all the best, sayonara and good luck! -- Celestianpower talk 17:04, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
Apparently, I notice strange behaviour and sensitivity on some topics among you Japanese users, (but never mind, I don't want to elaborate, small matter)...
I realised that you have removed the 対馬島 from the article. Previously, you noticed the edit that I have added "Tsushima Island (対馬島), better known as Tsushima (対馬島)...".
I added 対馬島 is merely to rhyme with the english equivalent of Tsushima Island, and I know that the Japanese government and people simply call Tsushima rather than Tsushima Island, in which if I'm not mistaken, is the official name which Japan itself uses for adminstrative purposes. Had I denied this fact (which is totally absurd to do so), I wouldn't even added "better known as Tsushima". The main purpose of my edit is to reinforce facts, that's all, not to spur controversies.
If you have strong objections otherwise, please state so in my talk page. I would very much like to hear about it soon. Thanks! Mr Tan 07:06, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Dwy, please see my reply on Tsushima Island. It is a rather tricky problem on 対馬島/対馬 and Tsushima/Tsu/Tsushima Island, though. And please leave a note/reply on my talk page after your response. I greatly appreciate that. Thanks. Mr Tan 07:28, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
I just left this yesterday for another newbie, so if something isn't quite edited now into context, forgive me, as there is other complications for him.
Lastly, once you've seen this, open a second browser to it, and puruse the finished version in one, and the edit window version in the other. Some good 'starter' tricks herein if I do say so myself!
This should be enough to get you going and fill up lots of WikiTime with educational direct browsing! Good Hunting!
And Enjoy!
Fra
nkB
17:43, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
Dwy --
Just looking over your posts on various Talk pages, it looks to me like your English ability is well above Level 1 (beginner). Perhaps you meant to set it at Level 4 (near-native)? Just curious, Eiríkr Útlendi | Tala við mig 19:19, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
... to say Hi! How's it going? Been a while since I welcomed you above and haven't heard from you. See you've kept with it too! Great! Best regards on behalf of WP:WC // Fra nkB 15:34, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello Dwy, I was wondering if you could help translate the Japanese text in this diagram so that it could be used to build the key for this version. Any help would be appreciated! Kaldari ( talk) 01:33, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 23:28, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
- Juzumaru, it seems you don't particularly mind the article stating "descended from Emperor Kōshō + the foreign origin theory", but it doesn't sit well with me personally, and so I am arguing the following points.
- The historical existence of the eight legendary emperors is itself questionable, and "said to be descendant of Emperor Kōshō" is essentially a tradition, with scholars not actually arguing that "the Yamanoue clan were (really) descendants of Emperor Kōshō". Unless we specifically state who (or what) says "descended from Emperor Kōshō", there is a risk that the reader will draw the wrong conclusion. We need to make it clear that "descended from Emperor Kōshō" is a tradition based on Shinsen Shōjiroku.
- The foreign origin theory was the subject of a heated debate, but the fact is that "scholars of Japanese literature propped up the foreign origin theory, and historians rejected it". To write as though it was a debate between "descended from Emperor Kōshō" and "foreign origin theory" (something people like User:Sturmgewehr88 honestly seem to believe) is just wrong. If we're going to cite the foreign origin theory then we also need to balance that with "this theory is not supported by historians" and give an accurate summary of the debate between scholars.
- Hijiri88 analyzed the articles in 15 encyclopedias. Of these fifteen, the majority just say "kikajin / toraijin" (immigrant), and only a few specifically mention Baekje. There was only one that mentions "common ancestry with Kakinomoto no Hitomaro". On the other hand, even though a substantial number of encyclopedias made specifc mention of Shinsen Shojiroku and scholars' arguments against foreign origin theory, all such information has been removed. No matter how hard I try, I can't understand the criteria they applied in deciding what to keep and what to throw away. Shouldn't we just be adding everything that has a decent source behind it?
- I think I'm just having a normal discussion, but my opponents is being agitated with his unintelligible accusations like "It's obvious you have a political agenda!!" Since his accusations have no substance, there's really nothing to worry about, and I don't think you digging up documents for me will help all that much. --Dwy (talk) 16:06, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
- Just as I thought, my opponents have an incomprehensible way of attacking me, so it's probably better that you just be quiet and keep watch from the sidelines. --Dwy (talk) 18:09, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
— originally written by User:Dwy in Japanese and translated into English by User:Hijiri88. ( User talk:Sturmgewehr88#More "secret code that those other idiots can't read" from Dwy, diff), with some correction by User:Dwy ( diff)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. 182.249.241.40 ( talk) 05:01, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
はいさい, Dwy! I've noticed that you've contributed to the subject of Ryukyu. I invite you to join WikiProject Ryūkyū, AKA the Ryukyu task force, a collaborative effort to expand and deepen coverage of subjects pertaining to Ryukyuan geography, history, and culture. Here are a few links to pages to start you off:
I hope you'll take interest and decide to be a part of this project. めんそーれ! ミーラー強斗武 ( talk) 04:25, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
Hello! You removed the bit in solicitor about the Japan case, the purported connection to judicial scriveners. Well, I'm certainly not going to put it back, but I do suggest that tactically it might be better to have a mention, a clear distinction, and a wikilink. The reason is that once this is completely gone, when the next twit comes along and puts a whole chunk in again, it is not so easy for editors to recognise, unless they happen to be aware of the problem. I think it might also help to try to improve the judicial scrivener article, but it's not easy -- this is not exactly a topic with lots of well-written articles in English, and it's wildly outside my field of expertise. Anyway, I'll watch for now... Imaginatorium ( talk) 12:11, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia!
Welcome to Wikipedia, Dwy! I'm Celestianpower. I noticed that you were new and/or have yet to receive any messages so I just thought I'd pop in to say "hello". Hello. Wikipedia can be a little intimidating at first, since it's so big but we won't bite so Be Bold and get what you know down in microchips! If you do make a mistake, that's fine, we'll assume good faith and just correct you: it'll take a few seconds maximum! Here, however, are a few links to get you started:
There are lots of policies and guidelines to get to grips with but they all make your life easier and your stay more fun in the long run. If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page or add {{ helpme}} to your userpage - someone will come very, very quickly to your aid. Please be sure to sign your posts on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~) to produce your name and the current date, along with a link to your user page. This way, others know when you left a message and how to find you. It's easier than having to type out your name, right? ;)
I hope you enjoy contributing to Wikipedia. We can use all the help we can get! Have a great time, all the best, sayonara and good luck! -- Celestianpower talk 17:04, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
Apparently, I notice strange behaviour and sensitivity on some topics among you Japanese users, (but never mind, I don't want to elaborate, small matter)...
I realised that you have removed the 対馬島 from the article. Previously, you noticed the edit that I have added "Tsushima Island (対馬島), better known as Tsushima (対馬島)...".
I added 対馬島 is merely to rhyme with the english equivalent of Tsushima Island, and I know that the Japanese government and people simply call Tsushima rather than Tsushima Island, in which if I'm not mistaken, is the official name which Japan itself uses for adminstrative purposes. Had I denied this fact (which is totally absurd to do so), I wouldn't even added "better known as Tsushima". The main purpose of my edit is to reinforce facts, that's all, not to spur controversies.
If you have strong objections otherwise, please state so in my talk page. I would very much like to hear about it soon. Thanks! Mr Tan 07:06, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Dwy, please see my reply on Tsushima Island. It is a rather tricky problem on 対馬島/対馬 and Tsushima/Tsu/Tsushima Island, though. And please leave a note/reply on my talk page after your response. I greatly appreciate that. Thanks. Mr Tan 07:28, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
I just left this yesterday for another newbie, so if something isn't quite edited now into context, forgive me, as there is other complications for him.
Lastly, once you've seen this, open a second browser to it, and puruse the finished version in one, and the edit window version in the other. Some good 'starter' tricks herein if I do say so myself!
This should be enough to get you going and fill up lots of WikiTime with educational direct browsing! Good Hunting!
And Enjoy!
Fra
nkB
17:43, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
Dwy --
Just looking over your posts on various Talk pages, it looks to me like your English ability is well above Level 1 (beginner). Perhaps you meant to set it at Level 4 (near-native)? Just curious, Eiríkr Útlendi | Tala við mig 19:19, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
... to say Hi! How's it going? Been a while since I welcomed you above and haven't heard from you. See you've kept with it too! Great! Best regards on behalf of WP:WC // Fra nkB 15:34, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello Dwy, I was wondering if you could help translate the Japanese text in this diagram so that it could be used to build the key for this version. Any help would be appreciated! Kaldari ( talk) 01:33, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Hijiri 88 ( 聖 やや) 23:28, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
- Juzumaru, it seems you don't particularly mind the article stating "descended from Emperor Kōshō + the foreign origin theory", but it doesn't sit well with me personally, and so I am arguing the following points.
- The historical existence of the eight legendary emperors is itself questionable, and "said to be descendant of Emperor Kōshō" is essentially a tradition, with scholars not actually arguing that "the Yamanoue clan were (really) descendants of Emperor Kōshō". Unless we specifically state who (or what) says "descended from Emperor Kōshō", there is a risk that the reader will draw the wrong conclusion. We need to make it clear that "descended from Emperor Kōshō" is a tradition based on Shinsen Shōjiroku.
- The foreign origin theory was the subject of a heated debate, but the fact is that "scholars of Japanese literature propped up the foreign origin theory, and historians rejected it". To write as though it was a debate between "descended from Emperor Kōshō" and "foreign origin theory" (something people like User:Sturmgewehr88 honestly seem to believe) is just wrong. If we're going to cite the foreign origin theory then we also need to balance that with "this theory is not supported by historians" and give an accurate summary of the debate between scholars.
- Hijiri88 analyzed the articles in 15 encyclopedias. Of these fifteen, the majority just say "kikajin / toraijin" (immigrant), and only a few specifically mention Baekje. There was only one that mentions "common ancestry with Kakinomoto no Hitomaro". On the other hand, even though a substantial number of encyclopedias made specifc mention of Shinsen Shojiroku and scholars' arguments against foreign origin theory, all such information has been removed. No matter how hard I try, I can't understand the criteria they applied in deciding what to keep and what to throw away. Shouldn't we just be adding everything that has a decent source behind it?
- I think I'm just having a normal discussion, but my opponents is being agitated with his unintelligible accusations like "It's obvious you have a political agenda!!" Since his accusations have no substance, there's really nothing to worry about, and I don't think you digging up documents for me will help all that much. --Dwy (talk) 16:06, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
- Just as I thought, my opponents have an incomprehensible way of attacking me, so it's probably better that you just be quiet and keep watch from the sidelines. --Dwy (talk) 18:09, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
— originally written by User:Dwy in Japanese and translated into English by User:Hijiri88. ( User talk:Sturmgewehr88#More "secret code that those other idiots can't read" from Dwy, diff), with some correction by User:Dwy ( diff)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. 182.249.241.40 ( talk) 05:01, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
はいさい, Dwy! I've noticed that you've contributed to the subject of Ryukyu. I invite you to join WikiProject Ryūkyū, AKA the Ryukyu task force, a collaborative effort to expand and deepen coverage of subjects pertaining to Ryukyuan geography, history, and culture. Here are a few links to pages to start you off:
I hope you'll take interest and decide to be a part of this project. めんそーれ! ミーラー強斗武 ( talk) 04:25, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
Hello! You removed the bit in solicitor about the Japan case, the purported connection to judicial scriveners. Well, I'm certainly not going to put it back, but I do suggest that tactically it might be better to have a mention, a clear distinction, and a wikilink. The reason is that once this is completely gone, when the next twit comes along and puts a whole chunk in again, it is not so easy for editors to recognise, unless they happen to be aware of the problem. I think it might also help to try to improve the judicial scrivener article, but it's not easy -- this is not exactly a topic with lots of well-written articles in English, and it's wildly outside my field of expertise. Anyway, I'll watch for now... Imaginatorium ( talk) 12:11, 28 August 2016 (UTC)