Noticed your posting on Talk:Protest, and couldn't figure out what it had to do with the article about protests. Just as a friendly reminder, in the future, please pick your talk pages carefully, especially since you cross-posted the same text in a few different articles. SchuminWeb ( Talk) 15:20, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Please desist from spamming user and article talk pages with copies of the same message. Thank you. -- jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 17:05, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
First of all, I don't know why I specifically received that message from you. If you're simply trying to get everyone's attention, this is not the right way to do it.
However, to address your points, all I will say is this. The Wikipedia is not a public resource per se, though it is offered to the public at large. You don't have a "right" to do anything - the computers and the management of what goes on within them is the domain of the Wikimedia Foundation. Just because a resource is open to everyone doesn't mean that you can do what you want. Same as any private property - you must follow the rules or get out. While I'm not a lawyer, I'm certain someone here can cite you some case law which will accord with this.
Regardless of all of that, I happen to agree with the official line that vandalism has no constructive value within the site, nor does it demonstrate anything except a willful abrogation of the rules. Which happen to be formed largely by group discussion and concensus. Which is where your message should be discussed, honestly! There is a process for discussing and questioning policies. However, if you don't agree with the site, there is no obligation to stay. There are many forks of the Wikipedia; you may also form one of your own if the existing ones are not to your liking. But what can vandalism possibly be a valid resort from? If you try to discuss and change policy and are rebuked, all it does is show that you have no respect for that which keeps the site running. If you vandalize without resort to discussion, all it shows is your ignorance and/or unwillingness to engage in discussion to begin with. I'm sorry, but vandalism runs completely counter to the values of this site, and I cannot support it under any circumstances. Girolamo Savonarola 17:06, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks. SchuminWeb ( Talk) 17:28, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
I've also posted this on my own talk page. Anyway, here goes:
Noticed your posting on Talk:Protest, and couldn't figure out what it had to do with the article about protests. Just as a friendly reminder, in the future, please pick your talk pages carefully, especially since you cross-posted the same text in a few different articles. SchuminWeb ( Talk) 15:20, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Please desist from spamming user and article talk pages with copies of the same message. Thank you. -- jpgordon ∇∆∇∆ 17:05, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
First of all, I don't know why I specifically received that message from you. If you're simply trying to get everyone's attention, this is not the right way to do it.
However, to address your points, all I will say is this. The Wikipedia is not a public resource per se, though it is offered to the public at large. You don't have a "right" to do anything - the computers and the management of what goes on within them is the domain of the Wikimedia Foundation. Just because a resource is open to everyone doesn't mean that you can do what you want. Same as any private property - you must follow the rules or get out. While I'm not a lawyer, I'm certain someone here can cite you some case law which will accord with this.
Regardless of all of that, I happen to agree with the official line that vandalism has no constructive value within the site, nor does it demonstrate anything except a willful abrogation of the rules. Which happen to be formed largely by group discussion and concensus. Which is where your message should be discussed, honestly! There is a process for discussing and questioning policies. However, if you don't agree with the site, there is no obligation to stay. There are many forks of the Wikipedia; you may also form one of your own if the existing ones are not to your liking. But what can vandalism possibly be a valid resort from? If you try to discuss and change policy and are rebuked, all it does is show that you have no respect for that which keeps the site running. If you vandalize without resort to discussion, all it shows is your ignorance and/or unwillingness to engage in discussion to begin with. I'm sorry, but vandalism runs completely counter to the values of this site, and I cannot support it under any circumstances. Girolamo Savonarola 17:06, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks. SchuminWeb ( Talk) 17:28, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
I've also posted this on my own talk page. Anyway, here goes: