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Just a heads up about red links

I see that you're removing a lot of WP:REDLINKs.

That can be very helpful when you're removing redlinks to pages that are probably never going to have an article, like here.

But if the red link is for a topic we could have an article on someday, like for an actor in a big movie, it's OK to leave the link.

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It's actually quite disruptive as I see you've been doing this for over a year and seemingly without rationale, creating more work for others as shortly after you did this, Cabán had an article, but the link was no longer active and had to be re-added. Please read the linked guidelines above about why we use redlinks here. Thanks! JesseRafe ( talk) 13:03, 2 July 2019 (UTC) reply

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Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Tony Fadell. You've been warned for over a year to both use edit summaries and stop removing redlinks just because. You have not responded on any talk page. This is your last warning. JesseRafe ( talk) 12:58, 3 July 2019 (UTC) reply

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Changing quoted material

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Do not decap proper names

I reverted your edit to Los Angeles because "Southern California" is the name of a region, and "Southern" is properly capitalized. - Donald Albury 11:13, 28 March 2020 (UTC) reply

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What is your deal with changing links to the business school to the university? It's less correct for the reader since it makes articles less specific. ♠ PMC(talk) 21:49, 14 November 2020 (UTC) reply

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"Per standard Wikipedia first line for billionaires"

You have recently made the same change to multiple biographies, with the edit summary "Per standard Wikipedia first line for billionaires". Can I ask where this 'standard line' is laid down? MOS:BLPLEAD for example says nothing on the matter. AndyTheGrump ( talk) 21:14, 16 September 2022 (UTC) reply

Regardless of whether it is a specific rule laid out anywhere, the word billionaire appears in the first line of many, many, many profiles. I think it is more than okay to transfer that to other profiles too, no? Why would Wikipedia not want to maintain consistency? Dhruvh ( talk) 21:16, 16 September 2022 (UTC) reply
Which 'many, many, profiles' do you base that on? Because you seem to be editing 'many, many' profiles/biographies that it didn't previously apply to. AndyTheGrump ( talk) 21:22, 16 September 2022 (UTC) reply
Dhruvh, It's misleading to claim some standard when none exists, and it is UNDUE in many cases relative to the story of the subjects' lives. On some it may be downright offensive, e.g MacKenzie Scott, formerly Bezos. I think you should undo these changes on widely followed and heavily edited pages that have evolved without such emphasis. SPECIFICO talk 21:31, 16 September 2022 (UTC) reply

Adding "billionaire" to opening sentences of BLPs

Hello Dhruvh. What is your reason for stating that the these people should be identified as "billionaire" in the opening sentence of their articles? What Wikipedia policy or guideline is your authority for this assertion that it is the standard on Wikipedia? Thanks. SPECIFICO talk 21:19, 16 September 2022 (UTC) reply

See above. AndyTheGrump ( talk) 21:26, 16 September 2022 (UTC) reply
Please hop on a call if you'd like to discuss. I have added billionaire to EXACTLY the same type of people that the word already appears on. It already appears on Vinod Khosla, Michael Dell, and plenty of others who are business entrepreneurs and investors. I applied EXACTLY the same logic and added the word to business entrepreneurs and investors who are billionaires. To claim this is inappropriate is a bit ridiculous. Quite frankly, if this is the approach the Wikipedia editor team is going to take with edits, I have literally no interest in contributing to edits in the future. Feel free to maintain inconsistency if that if that's what you'd prefer and feel free to remove "billionaire" on some entrepreneur/investor pages and keep them on others. Dhruvh ( talk) 21:41, 16 September 2022 (UTC) reply
I did not apply billionaire to MacKenzie Bezos' profile, nor to any inheritance profiles. Only to similar people - entrepreneurs on investors who directly acquired the billions. Dhruvh ( talk) 21:43, 16 September 2022 (UTC) reply
I do not 'hop on calls', whatever that is supposed to mean. Discussions regarding Wikipedia content belong on Wikipedia talk pages. And since you have entirely failed to provide evidence that your 'standard' is anything of the sort, I shall be reverting your edits. If you want Wikipedia to change policies or guidelines on this, you are free to propose this in an appropriate place - meanwhile though, I'd advise against using misleading edit summaries. AndyTheGrump ( talk) 21:52, 16 September 2022 (UTC) reply
Hopping on a call means discussing something over the phone because it is hard to do via just writing. It's a pretty common phrase in my opinion. Do I really deserve that kind of tone? No problem, please revert them. It's a complete waste of my time, quite frankly, to propose a guideline change to maintaining consistency in exactly the same scenarios (is it really inappropriate to place billionaire in the first sentence of Larry Ellison's page when it is on Michael Dell's?). I don't plan on using edit summaries in the future. I take your point on the inaccurate use of the word "standard", though "misleading" ascribes unfair intent on my part. And since we are in the business of giving people advice, I would also advise you to try to maintain consistency across your pages. That really is not always the case from a avid user of the website. Dhruvh ( talk) 22:09, 16 September 2022 (UTC) reply
Dhruvh: Clearly that is the approach that we take around here. But maybe you will have interest in other areas even though you do not have any interest in continuing with these particular edits. But as AndyTheGrump said, it's very important to write accurate edit summaries. That's how we all can avoid spending time on little side-discussions like this one. SPECIFICO talk 22:39, 16 September 2022 (UTC) reply
Thank you for your respectful response. Agreed - I will focus on ensuring my edit summaries provide as much specificity and clarity as possible. Dhruvh ( talk) 03:04, 2 November 2022 (UTC) reply

"Business executive"

Hi - you are adding this description to various biographies. This is an imprecise term, and I'm not seeing any sources that confirm these people held a job title at an "executive" level? Reverting until can confirm a valid label for these people. -- ZimZalaBim talk 22:17, 16 September 2022 (UTC) reply

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Just a heads up about red links

I see that you're removing a lot of WP:REDLINKs.

That can be very helpful when you're removing redlinks to pages that are probably never going to have an article, like here.

But if the red link is for a topic we could have an article on someday, like for an actor in a big movie, it's OK to leave the link.

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It's actually quite disruptive as I see you've been doing this for over a year and seemingly without rationale, creating more work for others as shortly after you did this, Cabán had an article, but the link was no longer active and had to be re-added. Please read the linked guidelines above about why we use redlinks here. Thanks! JesseRafe ( talk) 13:03, 2 July 2019 (UTC) reply

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Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Tony Fadell. You've been warned for over a year to both use edit summaries and stop removing redlinks just because. You have not responded on any talk page. This is your last warning. JesseRafe ( talk) 12:58, 3 July 2019 (UTC) reply

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Changing quoted material

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Do not decap proper names

I reverted your edit to Los Angeles because "Southern California" is the name of a region, and "Southern" is properly capitalized. - Donald Albury 11:13, 28 March 2020 (UTC) reply

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Harvard Business School vs Harvard University

What is your deal with changing links to the business school to the university? It's less correct for the reader since it makes articles less specific. ♠ PMC(talk) 21:49, 14 November 2020 (UTC) reply

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I noticed you had changed a person's name in a set of recent edits. While any person, especially someone here with a BLP page, may have an official/formal name, (such as what one would find on their birth certificate), that is not necessarily the name the that we would use her on WP. Please see WP:COMMONNAME, WP:NICKNAME & MOS:NICKNAME, and have a look at the Bill Clinton article for an example. While you might be inclined to note the former President as William, (or William Jefferson or William J.), he is commonly known as "Bill" due to our guidelines.
As such I corrected your edit to comform to the guidelines. I also saw on my watchlist that you had made several more edits afterward, and the few I looked at were also name changes. Please review those edits, and indeed any edits you've made to people's names to ensure they are in compliance.

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"Per standard Wikipedia first line for billionaires"

You have recently made the same change to multiple biographies, with the edit summary "Per standard Wikipedia first line for billionaires". Can I ask where this 'standard line' is laid down? MOS:BLPLEAD for example says nothing on the matter. AndyTheGrump ( talk) 21:14, 16 September 2022 (UTC) reply

Regardless of whether it is a specific rule laid out anywhere, the word billionaire appears in the first line of many, many, many profiles. I think it is more than okay to transfer that to other profiles too, no? Why would Wikipedia not want to maintain consistency? Dhruvh ( talk) 21:16, 16 September 2022 (UTC) reply
Which 'many, many, profiles' do you base that on? Because you seem to be editing 'many, many' profiles/biographies that it didn't previously apply to. AndyTheGrump ( talk) 21:22, 16 September 2022 (UTC) reply
Dhruvh, It's misleading to claim some standard when none exists, and it is UNDUE in many cases relative to the story of the subjects' lives. On some it may be downright offensive, e.g MacKenzie Scott, formerly Bezos. I think you should undo these changes on widely followed and heavily edited pages that have evolved without such emphasis. SPECIFICO talk 21:31, 16 September 2022 (UTC) reply

Adding "billionaire" to opening sentences of BLPs

Hello Dhruvh. What is your reason for stating that the these people should be identified as "billionaire" in the opening sentence of their articles? What Wikipedia policy or guideline is your authority for this assertion that it is the standard on Wikipedia? Thanks. SPECIFICO talk 21:19, 16 September 2022 (UTC) reply

See above. AndyTheGrump ( talk) 21:26, 16 September 2022 (UTC) reply
Please hop on a call if you'd like to discuss. I have added billionaire to EXACTLY the same type of people that the word already appears on. It already appears on Vinod Khosla, Michael Dell, and plenty of others who are business entrepreneurs and investors. I applied EXACTLY the same logic and added the word to business entrepreneurs and investors who are billionaires. To claim this is inappropriate is a bit ridiculous. Quite frankly, if this is the approach the Wikipedia editor team is going to take with edits, I have literally no interest in contributing to edits in the future. Feel free to maintain inconsistency if that if that's what you'd prefer and feel free to remove "billionaire" on some entrepreneur/investor pages and keep them on others. Dhruvh ( talk) 21:41, 16 September 2022 (UTC) reply
I did not apply billionaire to MacKenzie Bezos' profile, nor to any inheritance profiles. Only to similar people - entrepreneurs on investors who directly acquired the billions. Dhruvh ( talk) 21:43, 16 September 2022 (UTC) reply
I do not 'hop on calls', whatever that is supposed to mean. Discussions regarding Wikipedia content belong on Wikipedia talk pages. And since you have entirely failed to provide evidence that your 'standard' is anything of the sort, I shall be reverting your edits. If you want Wikipedia to change policies or guidelines on this, you are free to propose this in an appropriate place - meanwhile though, I'd advise against using misleading edit summaries. AndyTheGrump ( talk) 21:52, 16 September 2022 (UTC) reply
Hopping on a call means discussing something over the phone because it is hard to do via just writing. It's a pretty common phrase in my opinion. Do I really deserve that kind of tone? No problem, please revert them. It's a complete waste of my time, quite frankly, to propose a guideline change to maintaining consistency in exactly the same scenarios (is it really inappropriate to place billionaire in the first sentence of Larry Ellison's page when it is on Michael Dell's?). I don't plan on using edit summaries in the future. I take your point on the inaccurate use of the word "standard", though "misleading" ascribes unfair intent on my part. And since we are in the business of giving people advice, I would also advise you to try to maintain consistency across your pages. That really is not always the case from a avid user of the website. Dhruvh ( talk) 22:09, 16 September 2022 (UTC) reply
Dhruvh: Clearly that is the approach that we take around here. But maybe you will have interest in other areas even though you do not have any interest in continuing with these particular edits. But as AndyTheGrump said, it's very important to write accurate edit summaries. That's how we all can avoid spending time on little side-discussions like this one. SPECIFICO talk 22:39, 16 September 2022 (UTC) reply
Thank you for your respectful response. Agreed - I will focus on ensuring my edit summaries provide as much specificity and clarity as possible. Dhruvh ( talk) 03:04, 2 November 2022 (UTC) reply

"Business executive"

Hi - you are adding this description to various biographies. This is an imprecise term, and I'm not seeing any sources that confirm these people held a job title at an "executive" level? Reverting until can confirm a valid label for these people. -- ZimZalaBim talk 22:17, 16 September 2022 (UTC) reply

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