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Thanks for your message -- looks like a good place to spend some time looking over things and I'll be happy to spend some time there in the next few days. Best, -- MCB 07:38, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
please confirm me the procedure of renewing my greencard which has been expired on 13 july 2006
Please check first paragraph of SEO and edit as you like. Jehochman ( Talk/ Contrib) 20:15, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
thanks for your messgage. I won't pretend I have read it but I will promise to read it properly when I've got a minute and think about it. Prior to reading your message my general view is that WP should go for a whitelist but I am not yet convinced. One observation you may be able to throw light on: mainspace talk pages (and only these not wp or user talk pages) have ceased to be cached (or given pr but that's irrelevant) by google since nofollow was introduced on them late March. There is nothing in robots.txt or the links to them from the namespace pages I can see to prompt this. So somehow google has decided they are less important since the links out from them were nofollowed. Why/how? Perhaps (reasonably enough) you don't care. -- BozMo talk 12:43, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Carsten, this Performics article needs to be overhauled. Can you clear out all the PR sunshine? Make it very neutral and get three solid references to well known sources. I think the article has a better chance of survival if it's small and well referenced. Jehochman ( Talk/ Contrib) 22:36, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
These are 2 totally different subjects that need to be tackled individually as opt in emails are usually for customers already signed up and have given consent to be contacted, wheras email marketing as a whole has many avenues such as spam, follow up marketing emails, exclusive offer emails, competetions and much more.
You do not have to opt in to anything to recieve marketing emails, even the ones who do not spam.
Thanks
Ema Brunton —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.9.127.20 ( talk) 14:37, 5 January 2007 (UTC).
Thank you for merging these two articles. This has been on my TODO list since I added the merge tags. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wrs1864 ( talk • contribs) 13:23, 17 January 2007 (UTC).
I wouldn't relate what I put up there as a directory. Details and industry evaluations from companies such as Marketing Sherpa, Forrester, JD Power, Jupiter and others are extremely important details, significantly more important than providing the "directory links" to SEMPO which were approved. In an industry with thousands of hucksters and used car salesman, Wikipedia should want to help people with resources to solve their problems. Your decision to remove is really offbase. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tddaly ( talk • contribs) 16:41, 17 January 2007 (UTC).
Media:Example.ogg Hi Roy, Oops!! Sorry!! I don't think I had added any link to my website.I was trying to learn how to add hyperlinks in the References section. If you had looked at the change log completely then you might noticed it(addition and deletion). I was trying to learn it and still haven't figured out how to create hyperlinks in references section. Anyway, I will try it after learning it from discussion with other contributors. I am quite new to this and now I realise that you might be receiving a pile of change logs. BTW, I never claimed myself to be a Guru, I choose that name because all other domain names related to affiliate programs were registered already. Cheers
FYI:
At Jimbo Wales' directive, all external links within the English language Wikipedia are now coded "nofollow" -- this should help cut spamming immensely once word gets out in the SEO community.
This change was mentioned in the discussion Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Globalwarming awareness2007/SEO world championship -- expect a spam onslaught.
If you pull up any article's source code, you can see this is now in place.
Thanks for fighting the good fight in pushing for this. I'm glad Wales overruled the very naive, foolish consensus against doing this.
If you can, please put the word out within the SEO world. I think many white hats will be pleased and hopefully the gray/black hats will move to something else. -- A. B. (talk) 16:05, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
Hello Carsten,
Its me Tino. I found you on the Wiki.
Have a Good Day
Tino
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Carste, I tried to post the following comment, but SEJ seems to have a server configuration problem because the submit button isn't working right. Please debug. Jehochman ( Talk/ Contrib) 15:37, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
![]() | This page in a nutshell: Carsten, the SEO article needs to remain NPOV, so we will have both pro and con arguments. I encourage everyone to contribute, but please cite references and avoid pushing an agenda. The purpose of this article is to inform the public and provide pointers to reliable sources of more detailed information. I've also started an essay at Wikipedia:Search engine optimization as a place for SEOs and Wikipedians to discuss appropriate ways for SEOs to participate in Wikipedia, and to alleviate mutual distrust. |
hi i got with my wife in aug 2003, married in dec 2003 and applied for my green card in july 2004, i recived my green card in april 2005 but htne we got divorced in august 2006 now i have to renew my green card in april 2007, i dont have enough documents to prove my marriage was entered in good faith, i was sure that my wife sorry x-wife would come with me to the interview and that it would not be a problem for us to renew my green card. but now i think i have a problem as i dont have enough documents to prove everything. i am trying to see what can be done. ANY SUGGESTIONS ????? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.11.57.41 ( talk) 01:22, 12 February 2007 (UTC).
Hi Cumbrowski, good to meet a more senior Wikipedian. I'm surprised that you contributed to the PrimeQ article without reprimanding them for not citing third-party references.-- Simonay 22:38, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi Cumbrowski, thanks for the feedback. I have censored the Primeq page until one of their employees or supporters cite valid third party references. Thanks for pointing me in the Spam Removal link direction.-- Simonay 07:11, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
As a consultant in this area, it's hard for me to accept that Internet Marketing and Interactive Marketing are similar. One can do Interactive Marketing totally offline. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.200.122.75 ( talk) 05:59, 2 April 2007 (UTC).
Dear Wikiproject Member, I beg your help urgently with a mob attack on a Business and Economics Wikiproject page, which was elected to the Business and Economics Wikiproject a few months ago, but which was never touched for edit – yet.
I am writing you as you are a member of the Business and Economics Wikiproject group, as am I. I joined, after the page I created for the agency of which I am Executive Director, was nominated to the Business and Economics Wikiproject page.
I welcome you to please look at the XXXXX Wikipedia page, or more importantly www.xxxxxx.ch/XXXXX/XXXXX_Wikipedia.pdf look at how it WAS, and the WP:ORG rules for non commercial enterprises (which allow for primary references, although these are discouraged). I ask you as economists to please edit the page. [It is a Wikiproject, and it is being deleted HERE by people who aren’t experts. They are gerrymandering the evaluation by taking out the Notability information and to Vanish sticking it on my Usertalk page. It is infuriating, and I got so sick of them, I asked them to just delete it. This is just childishness, and a waste of time, and a tragic one too.
I’m working with several governments here in Geneva, to found XXXXX (done) as an international NGO, to supplant work that isn't able to be done by the UN and WTO. XXXXX may become an international organization, but that takes time, usually about 5 years. XXXXX is an agency for globalization statistics capacity building, education and assistance to developing countries. We are a partner of the UN Capacity Building group and the OECD - I attend all OECD meetings on Trade in Services Statistics in Paris, as well as OECD Globalization Inter-agency task Force meetings, in my capacity as XXXXX ED. Please help me to keep this site up. Please help me put the external links back on the page, that made it sensible. And or edit it to make it useful to economists and laypersons.
In addition to this thuggery, a number of Wikipedia pages I wrote, including Capacity Building, Trade in Services Statistics, and made contributions to many others, and these thugs are deleting the XXXXX reference to them. I spent hours writing these wikipages, which were relevant to the agency I was founding, and which deserves to be in this encyclopedic reference. These non-Experts don’t understand this. Please, help me stop this thuggery. And after this, please work on this page as a wikiproject. It is a worthy cause that deserves attention.
Please go on the page, and look at what it was (which I believe makes sense to experts – Ive got compliments on it from the UN and WTO people - of which I used to be one - former Economic Affairs Officer) and afterwards, please make reasoned edits to the page.
This is an NGO operating in an intergovernmental capacity. It is funded by the French and Swiss Governments, and will be soon by the US government. Please help.
Of course, you are more than welcome to visit the XXXXX Website. If you wish, I hope you will join in to edit this Wikipage, as XXXXX grows, and the work to build greater globalization statistics in the world grows. It really is better if external persons write this page, but my staff aren’t English native speakers, so the task fell on me. I welcome you to please edit and help XXXXX, to educate and build capacity in this fascinating field.
Thanks for your time, and sorry for the interruption.
User talk:Right to Vanish 06:54, 13 April 2006 - (Name of user is same as name of agency - Please not to be confused with the XXXXX Wikipage talk page -)
Hi - I see on the AFD for this article, you said The article needs a lot of work, but it seems that the organization is legit. I found tons of references to it on various websites, including universities. Mostly in europe. It seems that the organization, which is around since 1976 was never well organized, which changed last year with the launch of their global database in an attempt to get all the individual groups and activities consolidated.
This organisation has only existed for less than 12 months (since july 2006), so I'm a bit confused of the reference to it being 30 years old? -- Fredrick day 09:24, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
I believe that the guy who edited XXXXX has well intentions and only needs the same little guidance and advice that I obviously needed to become a good editor who can contribute a lot to numerous articles with related subjects.
I'm afraid I just don't see that - the use of multiple sock puppets, the presence of meat puppets, the personal attacks, the accusations of stalking, the misrepresentation of policy (after multiple explanations by multiple editors) - it all adds up to a single purpose account who's only interest is ensure that an organisation that they have a prominent role within (as the extensive director) gets an article. With the amount of effort expended, I can only concluded that they have been tasked in an official capacity in doing so. -- Fredrick day 13:38, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
How do I know she's a she? Because she's clearly identified herself by her real name by two other sock accounts she had - as far as I can work out, she's been tasked with PR and the like - which is why she seems to be so keen to keep the article up. --
Fredrick day
14:08, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
xxxx last person listed -- Fredrick day 14:13, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Roy, I saw your comment here
[4] reguarding you having found some legitmate sources. Could you please identify them and perhaps add them to the article where appropriate? I went through about 10 of the dozens of links and I felt I read enough to feel this organization is notable enough for inclusion, but i did not identify specific sources I felt should be added to the article. If you found those then please add them to help in this process.
Russeasby
18:05, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Jennifer: If you want to reference a claim, refer to the original source. For example did you refer to this article [5], but this is a re-printed press release without a references source for the press release. Here is the original press release xxxx from 5 April 2007 released via the Business News Wire "Zawya", which was issued because of this article xxxx written by Rabi` al-Awwal and published on Thursday, 5, April, 2007 at [6]
In this case should the article at Arabnews.com be used as reference. It is a week reference to validate your involvements and partnerships, because the article mentions xxxx only on a side node, but some reference (not enough to carry the whole article). The article itself is not about xxxx . Does xxxx has no press coverage that can be found on the internet? Coverage by the independent press or even specialized media in your industry? Did you issue press releases yourself about things you accomplished, that were picked up by a larger and reputable newspaper?
You can validate that you were founded in Geneva, but not even the date xxxx Companies and non-profits in the U.S. have a public record of their creation, which is available online for most states (where companies are founded). Does something like that exist? I am almost certain that is does. Find out and refer to it, if it does.
You certainly have people from your agency attend numerous international events that are relevant for the space you claim to operate in. Is there no reference that actually validates your agencies participation and its role in the accomplishments that were made? There must be. Simple attendence could simply mean that you sent somebody to attend sessions and that sort of things and come back with information, without actually doing something else there. Do you know what I mean?
All what I saw were pages that show that your agency was there or you have a memberlist of a comitee where one person of your organization was a member.
A lot of indirect indications that you probably do what you say you do. Showing what you do and already did (very important) instead of showing that you were probably doing it is much better. You can find those documents, documents were your agency is not the source, better than me or anybody else. Not everything is indexed by Google and even if it is, is it hard to find the really relevant stuff in the pile of noise.
When I referred to strong, I did not mean a "single" reference, but the mass of indirect reference that point into the right direction, but to the from page (figure of speech). With all this indirect reference will I be damned if the real validating references would show that your agency is just the the attache of somebody who does things at those events and projects and that you really just cook coffee and and carry somebodies bags around all day. :)
Do you understand what I am trying to say? -- roy<sac> Talk! .oOo. 18:59, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
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Thanks for your message -- looks like a good place to spend some time looking over things and I'll be happy to spend some time there in the next few days. Best, -- MCB 07:38, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
please confirm me the procedure of renewing my greencard which has been expired on 13 july 2006
Please check first paragraph of SEO and edit as you like. Jehochman ( Talk/ Contrib) 20:15, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
thanks for your messgage. I won't pretend I have read it but I will promise to read it properly when I've got a minute and think about it. Prior to reading your message my general view is that WP should go for a whitelist but I am not yet convinced. One observation you may be able to throw light on: mainspace talk pages (and only these not wp or user talk pages) have ceased to be cached (or given pr but that's irrelevant) by google since nofollow was introduced on them late March. There is nothing in robots.txt or the links to them from the namespace pages I can see to prompt this. So somehow google has decided they are less important since the links out from them were nofollowed. Why/how? Perhaps (reasonably enough) you don't care. -- BozMo talk 12:43, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Carsten, this Performics article needs to be overhauled. Can you clear out all the PR sunshine? Make it very neutral and get three solid references to well known sources. I think the article has a better chance of survival if it's small and well referenced. Jehochman ( Talk/ Contrib) 22:36, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
These are 2 totally different subjects that need to be tackled individually as opt in emails are usually for customers already signed up and have given consent to be contacted, wheras email marketing as a whole has many avenues such as spam, follow up marketing emails, exclusive offer emails, competetions and much more.
You do not have to opt in to anything to recieve marketing emails, even the ones who do not spam.
Thanks
Ema Brunton —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.9.127.20 ( talk) 14:37, 5 January 2007 (UTC).
Thank you for merging these two articles. This has been on my TODO list since I added the merge tags. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wrs1864 ( talk • contribs) 13:23, 17 January 2007 (UTC).
I wouldn't relate what I put up there as a directory. Details and industry evaluations from companies such as Marketing Sherpa, Forrester, JD Power, Jupiter and others are extremely important details, significantly more important than providing the "directory links" to SEMPO which were approved. In an industry with thousands of hucksters and used car salesman, Wikipedia should want to help people with resources to solve their problems. Your decision to remove is really offbase. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tddaly ( talk • contribs) 16:41, 17 January 2007 (UTC).
Media:Example.ogg Hi Roy, Oops!! Sorry!! I don't think I had added any link to my website.I was trying to learn how to add hyperlinks in the References section. If you had looked at the change log completely then you might noticed it(addition and deletion). I was trying to learn it and still haven't figured out how to create hyperlinks in references section. Anyway, I will try it after learning it from discussion with other contributors. I am quite new to this and now I realise that you might be receiving a pile of change logs. BTW, I never claimed myself to be a Guru, I choose that name because all other domain names related to affiliate programs were registered already. Cheers
FYI:
At Jimbo Wales' directive, all external links within the English language Wikipedia are now coded "nofollow" -- this should help cut spamming immensely once word gets out in the SEO community.
This change was mentioned in the discussion Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Globalwarming awareness2007/SEO world championship -- expect a spam onslaught.
If you pull up any article's source code, you can see this is now in place.
Thanks for fighting the good fight in pushing for this. I'm glad Wales overruled the very naive, foolish consensus against doing this.
If you can, please put the word out within the SEO world. I think many white hats will be pleased and hopefully the gray/black hats will move to something else. -- A. B. (talk) 16:05, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
Hello Carsten,
Its me Tino. I found you on the Wiki.
Have a Good Day
Tino
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Carste, I tried to post the following comment, but SEJ seems to have a server configuration problem because the submit button isn't working right. Please debug. Jehochman ( Talk/ Contrib) 15:37, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
![]() | This page in a nutshell: Carsten, the SEO article needs to remain NPOV, so we will have both pro and con arguments. I encourage everyone to contribute, but please cite references and avoid pushing an agenda. The purpose of this article is to inform the public and provide pointers to reliable sources of more detailed information. I've also started an essay at Wikipedia:Search engine optimization as a place for SEOs and Wikipedians to discuss appropriate ways for SEOs to participate in Wikipedia, and to alleviate mutual distrust. |
hi i got with my wife in aug 2003, married in dec 2003 and applied for my green card in july 2004, i recived my green card in april 2005 but htne we got divorced in august 2006 now i have to renew my green card in april 2007, i dont have enough documents to prove my marriage was entered in good faith, i was sure that my wife sorry x-wife would come with me to the interview and that it would not be a problem for us to renew my green card. but now i think i have a problem as i dont have enough documents to prove everything. i am trying to see what can be done. ANY SUGGESTIONS ????? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.11.57.41 ( talk) 01:22, 12 February 2007 (UTC).
Hi Cumbrowski, good to meet a more senior Wikipedian. I'm surprised that you contributed to the PrimeQ article without reprimanding them for not citing third-party references.-- Simonay 22:38, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi Cumbrowski, thanks for the feedback. I have censored the Primeq page until one of their employees or supporters cite valid third party references. Thanks for pointing me in the Spam Removal link direction.-- Simonay 07:11, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
As a consultant in this area, it's hard for me to accept that Internet Marketing and Interactive Marketing are similar. One can do Interactive Marketing totally offline. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.200.122.75 ( talk) 05:59, 2 April 2007 (UTC).
Dear Wikiproject Member, I beg your help urgently with a mob attack on a Business and Economics Wikiproject page, which was elected to the Business and Economics Wikiproject a few months ago, but which was never touched for edit – yet.
I am writing you as you are a member of the Business and Economics Wikiproject group, as am I. I joined, after the page I created for the agency of which I am Executive Director, was nominated to the Business and Economics Wikiproject page.
I welcome you to please look at the XXXXX Wikipedia page, or more importantly www.xxxxxx.ch/XXXXX/XXXXX_Wikipedia.pdf look at how it WAS, and the WP:ORG rules for non commercial enterprises (which allow for primary references, although these are discouraged). I ask you as economists to please edit the page. [It is a Wikiproject, and it is being deleted HERE by people who aren’t experts. They are gerrymandering the evaluation by taking out the Notability information and to Vanish sticking it on my Usertalk page. It is infuriating, and I got so sick of them, I asked them to just delete it. This is just childishness, and a waste of time, and a tragic one too.
I’m working with several governments here in Geneva, to found XXXXX (done) as an international NGO, to supplant work that isn't able to be done by the UN and WTO. XXXXX may become an international organization, but that takes time, usually about 5 years. XXXXX is an agency for globalization statistics capacity building, education and assistance to developing countries. We are a partner of the UN Capacity Building group and the OECD - I attend all OECD meetings on Trade in Services Statistics in Paris, as well as OECD Globalization Inter-agency task Force meetings, in my capacity as XXXXX ED. Please help me to keep this site up. Please help me put the external links back on the page, that made it sensible. And or edit it to make it useful to economists and laypersons.
In addition to this thuggery, a number of Wikipedia pages I wrote, including Capacity Building, Trade in Services Statistics, and made contributions to many others, and these thugs are deleting the XXXXX reference to them. I spent hours writing these wikipages, which were relevant to the agency I was founding, and which deserves to be in this encyclopedic reference. These non-Experts don’t understand this. Please, help me stop this thuggery. And after this, please work on this page as a wikiproject. It is a worthy cause that deserves attention.
Please go on the page, and look at what it was (which I believe makes sense to experts – Ive got compliments on it from the UN and WTO people - of which I used to be one - former Economic Affairs Officer) and afterwards, please make reasoned edits to the page.
This is an NGO operating in an intergovernmental capacity. It is funded by the French and Swiss Governments, and will be soon by the US government. Please help.
Of course, you are more than welcome to visit the XXXXX Website. If you wish, I hope you will join in to edit this Wikipage, as XXXXX grows, and the work to build greater globalization statistics in the world grows. It really is better if external persons write this page, but my staff aren’t English native speakers, so the task fell on me. I welcome you to please edit and help XXXXX, to educate and build capacity in this fascinating field.
Thanks for your time, and sorry for the interruption.
User talk:Right to Vanish 06:54, 13 April 2006 - (Name of user is same as name of agency - Please not to be confused with the XXXXX Wikipage talk page -)
Hi - I see on the AFD for this article, you said The article needs a lot of work, but it seems that the organization is legit. I found tons of references to it on various websites, including universities. Mostly in europe. It seems that the organization, which is around since 1976 was never well organized, which changed last year with the launch of their global database in an attempt to get all the individual groups and activities consolidated.
This organisation has only existed for less than 12 months (since july 2006), so I'm a bit confused of the reference to it being 30 years old? -- Fredrick day 09:24, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
I believe that the guy who edited XXXXX has well intentions and only needs the same little guidance and advice that I obviously needed to become a good editor who can contribute a lot to numerous articles with related subjects.
I'm afraid I just don't see that - the use of multiple sock puppets, the presence of meat puppets, the personal attacks, the accusations of stalking, the misrepresentation of policy (after multiple explanations by multiple editors) - it all adds up to a single purpose account who's only interest is ensure that an organisation that they have a prominent role within (as the extensive director) gets an article. With the amount of effort expended, I can only concluded that they have been tasked in an official capacity in doing so. -- Fredrick day 13:38, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
How do I know she's a she? Because she's clearly identified herself by her real name by two other sock accounts she had - as far as I can work out, she's been tasked with PR and the like - which is why she seems to be so keen to keep the article up. --
Fredrick day
14:08, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
xxxx last person listed -- Fredrick day 14:13, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Roy, I saw your comment here
[4] reguarding you having found some legitmate sources. Could you please identify them and perhaps add them to the article where appropriate? I went through about 10 of the dozens of links and I felt I read enough to feel this organization is notable enough for inclusion, but i did not identify specific sources I felt should be added to the article. If you found those then please add them to help in this process.
Russeasby
18:05, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Jennifer: If you want to reference a claim, refer to the original source. For example did you refer to this article [5], but this is a re-printed press release without a references source for the press release. Here is the original press release xxxx from 5 April 2007 released via the Business News Wire "Zawya", which was issued because of this article xxxx written by Rabi` al-Awwal and published on Thursday, 5, April, 2007 at [6]
In this case should the article at Arabnews.com be used as reference. It is a week reference to validate your involvements and partnerships, because the article mentions xxxx only on a side node, but some reference (not enough to carry the whole article). The article itself is not about xxxx . Does xxxx has no press coverage that can be found on the internet? Coverage by the independent press or even specialized media in your industry? Did you issue press releases yourself about things you accomplished, that were picked up by a larger and reputable newspaper?
You can validate that you were founded in Geneva, but not even the date xxxx Companies and non-profits in the U.S. have a public record of their creation, which is available online for most states (where companies are founded). Does something like that exist? I am almost certain that is does. Find out and refer to it, if it does.
You certainly have people from your agency attend numerous international events that are relevant for the space you claim to operate in. Is there no reference that actually validates your agencies participation and its role in the accomplishments that were made? There must be. Simple attendence could simply mean that you sent somebody to attend sessions and that sort of things and come back with information, without actually doing something else there. Do you know what I mean?
All what I saw were pages that show that your agency was there or you have a memberlist of a comitee where one person of your organization was a member.
A lot of indirect indications that you probably do what you say you do. Showing what you do and already did (very important) instead of showing that you were probably doing it is much better. You can find those documents, documents were your agency is not the source, better than me or anybody else. Not everything is indexed by Google and even if it is, is it hard to find the really relevant stuff in the pile of noise.
When I referred to strong, I did not mean a "single" reference, but the mass of indirect reference that point into the right direction, but to the from page (figure of speech). With all this indirect reference will I be damned if the real validating references would show that your agency is just the the attache of somebody who does things at those events and projects and that you really just cook coffee and and carry somebodies bags around all day. :)
Do you understand what I am trying to say? -- roy<sac> Talk! .oOo. 18:59, 13 April 2007 (UTC)