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Hello there ColaXtra. While wishing to retain an aura of anonymity within the confines of Wikipedia, I can confirm that I sometimes do live in South East London, although am somewhat nomadic and rarely stay in one place for very long. I can also confirm that I am not a Maoist, but equally, I am not explicitly anti-Maoist. I am not a Marxist to begin with – and hence I cannot possibly be a Maoist, but I recognize the potential for Maoist popular movements and/or goverments to improve the standard of living in certain parts of the developing world. Admittedly, Maoist doctrine does lead to a suppression of civil liberties, which we westerners – having been raised upon the ideological bedrock of classical liberalism – typically find intensely repulsive, but for the impoverished peasants of India, Nepal and other parts of the developing world, the promise of a socialist future in which their children would not go hungry, and in which they would be provided with a free education and medical care, surely outways any allegiance to the ethereal concept of civil liberties and liberal democracy. I hope that that explains my position on the matter. Best. Midnightblueowl ( talk) 10:34, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Admittedly, about two weeks ago I was returning from Central London late at night, and had to sit amongst some of the hoi poloi first year freshers from Rose Bruford on their way home from seeing something entitled Loserville. Noisy, irritating lot. And Mr/s Cola, I must protest that with the use of such terminology as "really pretty, shapely legs, supple... and also really, really nice", you remind me of a fine, upstanding gentleman who got himself in a spot of bother. Wikipedia is not an appropriate venue for the discussion of totty; it is an ethereal realm of scholarship and quiet, asexual contemplation and celibacy. Midnightblueowl ( talk) 00:13, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
Oh naughty, naughty Israelis. I'll have to ask my rabbi what is to be done about them. ( Midnightblueowl ( talk) 12:44, 23 October 2012 (UTC))
Hi ColaXtra. I would like to take you up on you offer to help me get a JSTOR article. One that I am looking for is:
Image Modulation in Corona Discharge Photography
John O. Pehek, Harry J. Kyler and David L. Faust
Science
New Series, Vol. 194, No. 4262 (Oct. 15, 1976), pp. 263-270
Published by: American Association for the Advancement of Science
DOI: 10.2307/1742214
Stable URL:
http://www.jstor.org/stable/1742214
Thanks in advance. — MrX 19:38, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Thank you very much, I've copied over the parts Alan Liefting said was missing. It was just the lead, wasn't it? *sigh* I thought he took care of it himself.-- OBSIDIAN† SOUL 01:11, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar | ||
This barnstar is to thank you for implementing the obvious idea I should have had of moving a book listed in the external links section of economic bubble to a new further reading section. Thanks! Michael An on 07:18, 31 August 2012 (UTC) |
Hello there ColaXtra! I wouldn't recommend using the text as you have currently structured it, because as it stands, it simply comprises of a direct quote from John Pilger. What would be better was to rewrite this in your own words, and back it up not only with the Pilger reference, but with other reliable references too, particularly those from academic sources. Best. Midnightblueowl ( talk) 20:26, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
ColaXtra wrote:
Was wondering if you felt like adding this to the etymology section? Up to you.
"In the USSR, where historians, even after 1956, could speak only of 'food difficulties', the use of the very word ''golod''/''holod'' (hunger, famine) was forbidden. In Ukraine it was uttered officially for the first time in December 1987, in First Secretary Volodymyr Shcherbytskyi's speech celebrating the republic's seventieth anniversary."<ref>{{cite journal |last= Graziosi |first= Andrea |year= 2004–2005 |title= The Soviet 1931–1933 Famines and the Ukrainian Holodomor: Is a New Interpretation Possible, and What Would Its Consequences Be? |journal= [[Harvard Ukrainian Studies]] |volume= 27 |issue= 1–4 |pages= 97–115 |jstor= 41036863 }}</ref>
ColaXtra ( talk) 20:57, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
Great idea. I have incorporated into the article on Holodomor. Actually, took the opportunity to rewrite the etymology section, with better subject grouping and more historical context. Thanks for the info!
Molly-in-md ( talk) 17:28, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
Well, the title says it all really! Much appreciated fellow Londoner! Midnightblueowl ( talk) 15:02, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
I would like to help in giving it a try even though I have learned over the years that it is a minefield as the world if full of competing agendas and POVs. Let me reflect a little on it. I think that I might might begin with paragraph 2 of the lede which is problematic because the reference is speculative rather than definitional and leads to the shopping list in section 4.2. Let me also mention my appreciation all the donkey work you have done on the references even if it will take me some time to get used to them.-- Joel Mc ( talk) 11:18, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
Genocide : the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group. Massacre : the unnecessary, indiscriminate killing of a large number of human beings or animals, as in barbarous warfare or persecution or for revenge or plunder.
In the case of MKO in Iran between 1980-1988, it was a genocide. So please stop deleting my post.
ColaXtra ( talk) 20:19, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
Can you believe it, I finally did a draft of the first paras yesterday and found you edits this morning. I have given brief explainations on The Holocaust talk page. I hope that you don't mind. Happy to discuss and of course nothing is written in stone. As you can see, I have not really mastered the new (to me) reference format. Joel Mc ( talk) 16:42, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
Please see the Talk Page there - thanks. HammerFilmFan ( talk) 11:35, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
OK, sure, no problem - I'll help you... The article needs work.. Question, why me of all users?? :)
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Notice on Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Complaint_about_user_TheTimesAreAChanging TheTimesAreAChanging makes yet another deceitful claim (he'd previously accused me of using a "fabricated" quote that was sourced to a Yale professor Ben Kiernan—no admission of guilt, no apology from him, even after he backtracked) that "ColaXtra already admitted he was trolling by deleting his own edits". I most certainly did no such thing: I deleted my additions because I was utterly sick of his appalling attitude (something he's never expressed any regret for) and wanted to wash my hands of him and my involvement in the article; you can check easily enough I made no further edits to the article, and wandered off to start improving Economy of the Soviet Union. Point is, the bit about my "admitting" I was a troll is sheer fabrication. How is the guy allowed to continue editing when I originally got banned for my persistent incivility and slanging matches? Have you seen some of his edit summaries??
Anyway, I'm thinking of applying to get my original permanent ban undone—though, I won't bother contesting my permanent ban from Israel–Palestine—and I think it would go in my favour if I can show that I now keep to the rules. Look at my talk page: it's beautiful! Look at my edit history: it's beautiful! Always RS, always constructive! Ah, well. ColaXtra ( talk) 15:49, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
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Hello there ColaXtra. While wishing to retain an aura of anonymity within the confines of Wikipedia, I can confirm that I sometimes do live in South East London, although am somewhat nomadic and rarely stay in one place for very long. I can also confirm that I am not a Maoist, but equally, I am not explicitly anti-Maoist. I am not a Marxist to begin with – and hence I cannot possibly be a Maoist, but I recognize the potential for Maoist popular movements and/or goverments to improve the standard of living in certain parts of the developing world. Admittedly, Maoist doctrine does lead to a suppression of civil liberties, which we westerners – having been raised upon the ideological bedrock of classical liberalism – typically find intensely repulsive, but for the impoverished peasants of India, Nepal and other parts of the developing world, the promise of a socialist future in which their children would not go hungry, and in which they would be provided with a free education and medical care, surely outways any allegiance to the ethereal concept of civil liberties and liberal democracy. I hope that that explains my position on the matter. Best. Midnightblueowl ( talk) 10:34, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Admittedly, about two weeks ago I was returning from Central London late at night, and had to sit amongst some of the hoi poloi first year freshers from Rose Bruford on their way home from seeing something entitled Loserville. Noisy, irritating lot. And Mr/s Cola, I must protest that with the use of such terminology as "really pretty, shapely legs, supple... and also really, really nice", you remind me of a fine, upstanding gentleman who got himself in a spot of bother. Wikipedia is not an appropriate venue for the discussion of totty; it is an ethereal realm of scholarship and quiet, asexual contemplation and celibacy. Midnightblueowl ( talk) 00:13, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
Oh naughty, naughty Israelis. I'll have to ask my rabbi what is to be done about them. ( Midnightblueowl ( talk) 12:44, 23 October 2012 (UTC))
Hi ColaXtra. I would like to take you up on you offer to help me get a JSTOR article. One that I am looking for is:
Image Modulation in Corona Discharge Photography
John O. Pehek, Harry J. Kyler and David L. Faust
Science
New Series, Vol. 194, No. 4262 (Oct. 15, 1976), pp. 263-270
Published by: American Association for the Advancement of Science
DOI: 10.2307/1742214
Stable URL:
http://www.jstor.org/stable/1742214
Thanks in advance. — MrX 19:38, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Thank you very much, I've copied over the parts Alan Liefting said was missing. It was just the lead, wasn't it? *sigh* I thought he took care of it himself.-- OBSIDIAN† SOUL 01:11, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar | ||
This barnstar is to thank you for implementing the obvious idea I should have had of moving a book listed in the external links section of economic bubble to a new further reading section. Thanks! Michael An on 07:18, 31 August 2012 (UTC) |
Hello there ColaXtra! I wouldn't recommend using the text as you have currently structured it, because as it stands, it simply comprises of a direct quote from John Pilger. What would be better was to rewrite this in your own words, and back it up not only with the Pilger reference, but with other reliable references too, particularly those from academic sources. Best. Midnightblueowl ( talk) 20:26, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
ColaXtra wrote:
Was wondering if you felt like adding this to the etymology section? Up to you.
"In the USSR, where historians, even after 1956, could speak only of 'food difficulties', the use of the very word ''golod''/''holod'' (hunger, famine) was forbidden. In Ukraine it was uttered officially for the first time in December 1987, in First Secretary Volodymyr Shcherbytskyi's speech celebrating the republic's seventieth anniversary."<ref>{{cite journal |last= Graziosi |first= Andrea |year= 2004–2005 |title= The Soviet 1931–1933 Famines and the Ukrainian Holodomor: Is a New Interpretation Possible, and What Would Its Consequences Be? |journal= [[Harvard Ukrainian Studies]] |volume= 27 |issue= 1–4 |pages= 97–115 |jstor= 41036863 }}</ref>
ColaXtra ( talk) 20:57, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
Great idea. I have incorporated into the article on Holodomor. Actually, took the opportunity to rewrite the etymology section, with better subject grouping and more historical context. Thanks for the info!
Molly-in-md ( talk) 17:28, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
Well, the title says it all really! Much appreciated fellow Londoner! Midnightblueowl ( talk) 15:02, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
I would like to help in giving it a try even though I have learned over the years that it is a minefield as the world if full of competing agendas and POVs. Let me reflect a little on it. I think that I might might begin with paragraph 2 of the lede which is problematic because the reference is speculative rather than definitional and leads to the shopping list in section 4.2. Let me also mention my appreciation all the donkey work you have done on the references even if it will take me some time to get used to them.-- Joel Mc ( talk) 11:18, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
Genocide : the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group. Massacre : the unnecessary, indiscriminate killing of a large number of human beings or animals, as in barbarous warfare or persecution or for revenge or plunder.
In the case of MKO in Iran between 1980-1988, it was a genocide. So please stop deleting my post.
ColaXtra ( talk) 20:19, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
Can you believe it, I finally did a draft of the first paras yesterday and found you edits this morning. I have given brief explainations on The Holocaust talk page. I hope that you don't mind. Happy to discuss and of course nothing is written in stone. As you can see, I have not really mastered the new (to me) reference format. Joel Mc ( talk) 16:42, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
Please see the Talk Page there - thanks. HammerFilmFan ( talk) 11:35, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
OK, sure, no problem - I'll help you... The article needs work.. Question, why me of all users?? :)
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Notice on Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Complaint_about_user_TheTimesAreAChanging TheTimesAreAChanging makes yet another deceitful claim (he'd previously accused me of using a "fabricated" quote that was sourced to a Yale professor Ben Kiernan—no admission of guilt, no apology from him, even after he backtracked) that "ColaXtra already admitted he was trolling by deleting his own edits". I most certainly did no such thing: I deleted my additions because I was utterly sick of his appalling attitude (something he's never expressed any regret for) and wanted to wash my hands of him and my involvement in the article; you can check easily enough I made no further edits to the article, and wandered off to start improving Economy of the Soviet Union. Point is, the bit about my "admitting" I was a troll is sheer fabrication. How is the guy allowed to continue editing when I originally got banned for my persistent incivility and slanging matches? Have you seen some of his edit summaries??
Anyway, I'm thinking of applying to get my original permanent ban undone—though, I won't bother contesting my permanent ban from Israel–Palestine—and I think it would go in my favour if I can show that I now keep to the rules. Look at my talk page: it's beautiful! Look at my edit history: it's beautiful! Always RS, always constructive! Ah, well. ColaXtra ( talk) 15:49, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
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If you're "not looking to get unblocked", well then I won't. As for your block, what does the notice above say? — Daniel Case ( talk) 15:56, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
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