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Not sure if Citation bot assumed that a the presence of a doi meant it was a journal, but the ref was pointing to a piece in the Trinity College Library archives collection. Attributed authors were picked up and added in ways that created CS1 errors.
—Carter (Tcr25) (
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13:30, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
It appears that Citation Bot has a blacklist for generic titles. "MSN" is a common generic title that I see Citation Bot add, so it should be added to that blacklist. (I know the diff I linked is old, but I've seen this happen recently.):Jay8g [
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Hi bot.can you help correct a typo on the AS racine fc page you just edited?
The page title "AS Racine FC" is wrong. The correct title is "AS Racines F.C".
Please correct it. RoaringEdits ( talk) 14:18, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
Hello,
According to the documentation at Template:Cite journal:
However, it seems citation bot unlinks the journal= parameter (by default?). Is this intentional? Should the documentation be updated if wikilinking journals is discouraged? Or should citation bot be updated to honor an existing wikilink, if any? ( Example diff. There's some other questionable changes in there but that's probably from bad input data and harder to deal with.). SnowFire ( talk) 21:16, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
|journal=[[Foo|Everything]]
, not |journal=[[Foo|Something]], something else
. 21:29, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
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21:29, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
!Category appears to be empty
|website=
is set.{{
cite web}}
to {{
cite book}}
ostensibly when url=
https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/295/295446/bullshit-jobs/9780141983479.html.
|website=
to |via=
instead of |periodical=
in the context of {{
Cite book}}, or rolling back the deprecation of the |periodical=
aliases from {{
Cite book}}, or having Citation bot output {{
Cite conference}} or {{
Citation}} to support more parameters.
Folly Mox (
talk)
09:32, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
|volume=26
and |issue=26
, bot omits |volume=
and keeps |issue=
|volume=
preferentially to |issue=
when the two are identical
Past and Present only has issue numbers. There is no volume number. That's erroneous metadata. See
[9].
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23:10, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
URLs are case insensitive (
URL : "Although schemes are case-insensitive, the canonical form is lowercase and documents that specify schemes must do so with lowercase letters."), if something broke, it's not because of the casing.
Headbomb (alt) (
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17:08, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
|url=
key name. These errors are not very common, but I've seen enough of them, they exist. Not sure how to check. Probably slicing the citation string along "|" and making sure each segment contains at least one "=". It's imperfect since URLs (like this one) often contain a "=". If it detects a URL "https?://" then temporarily mask it out before doing the "=" test. --
Green
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21:57, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
This is a series, and should not be added to the journal parameter of a cite book.
Like all other lone I in the middle of a journal name (save for Part I / Section I), should be lowercase. Reporting every single one individually is annoying.
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17:53, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
Dear citation bot: I need a favor; please cite the sources of this articles: Diamonds Are Forever (film); Carlos Alberto Rentería Mantilla; Epiphone Casino and 1988 Writers Guild of America strike. Best wishes. 2800:484:D473:700:C502:BC5C:682A:6B88 ( talk) 21:54, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
|website=
was set in the existing citation (fixed with {{
cite book}}).
See also [17] Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 10:22, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
I've seen Citation Bot periodically adding the current date to citations where it clearly does not belong. I'm guessing this is some issue with the metadata on the pages in question, but I wonder if there's some way to avoid it - one thing I can think of would be to prevent it from adding the current date (citations where that is actually valid could have the date added by a future bot run when it is no longer the current date), but maybe there's a better option.:Jay8g [
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00:26, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
|trans-title=
parameter|trans-title=
parameter of a {{Cite}} template, despite
MOS:CONFORMTITLE.
|orig-date
parameter in the cite book template|orig-date
parameter in the
cite book template e.g. |orig-date=First published 1859
is replaced with |orig-date=1859
.|orig-date=First published 1859
rather than |orig-date=1859
.
Switch the damn thing off. Or fix the errors it introduced. Don't leave it to other poor saps to clean up its mess. DuncanHill ( talk) 10:14, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
the result of sites with overeager structure putting the current date in the meta elements of the html header, because there is no url and no html header that the bot could have taken this date from. I tend to agree with the original poster: if this is not going to be fixed quickly then the bot needs to be shut down. — David Eppstein ( talk) 22:45, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
|journal=Jsae Review
|journal=JSAE Review
I would not call this a bug, but
the site's name is MovieCrow (find this capitalisation over
here and their official Twitter
X handle), yet adding the ref via
WP:VE or
WP:ProveIt renders www.moviecrow.com in the website field rather than MovieCrow, and no date. Could this be fixed when the citation bot is used, please? --
Kailash29792
(talk)
06:51, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
I'm not sure if it ever makes sense to add |title= when |script-title= is already there, but it definitely doesn't seem to make sense when there's both |script-title= and |trans-title=.:Jay8g [
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|title=
isn't even correct: what Citation bot got its hands on there is |website=
.
Folly Mox (
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22:13, 13 June 2024 (UTC)Headbomb, it's pointless getting Citation bot to make edits like this and this because the next time that Legobot runs (one minute past the hour), it will ignore what Citation bot did and overwrite it with text copied from the page where the RfC is taking place. If the citation really needs to be amended, this should be done at the source - Talk:Colombia#rfc_CF0B8D1 and Talk:Emir Abdelkader#rfc_54680D6. Legobot will then copy the amended version to the RfC listings. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 19:57, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
I was recently asked to add ISSNs to all journals at a FAC, and wondered why it isn't automatically added when hitting "expand citations" or when automatically filling up citations in the journal citation toolbar? FunkMonk ( talk) 20:38, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
Previous note:
This is more of a FYI / request for clarification than a bug report, although there might be a problem with these edits. Bot edit:
Special:Diff/1210636446 changed a number of URLs I added manually using the recent new Google books URLs back to the "Classic" Google books version. Working with the new URL format was a bit of pain, especially getting a page number link to function, and I'm not even sure it is an improvement, but it looks like Google is trying to move to the new format? On all the old style links page I see a link to "try the new Google books". The new style URL looks like this:
https://www.google.com/books/edition/Encyclopedia_of_Music_in_the_20th_Centur/m8W2AgAAQBAJ?gbpv=1&pg=PA379 , the Classic style the bot is converting to is:
https://books.google.com/books?id=m8W2AgAAQBAJ&pg=PA379 Is this still correct behavior? My feeling is that this wasn't a helpful edit, but I'm worried that neither URL format is necessarily stable now if Google are in the process of changing or deprecating their Books URLs. What format should Wikipedia use? Is there a better place to ask this question?
Salpynx (
talk)
19:31, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
I will work on reworking the code to make "new" URLs. I will have to do it as a pull request to work out the kinks, and it will take time. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 15:10, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Another example:
diff which throws a Cite journal requires |journal= error. If a {{
cite journal}} has both |journal=
and |series=
with identical or similar values, then |series=
should be dropped, not |journal=
.
Boghog (
talk)
11:16, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
I think a template change to
Template:Cite journal would be better.
Spinixster
(trout me!)
02:50, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Still needs lots of cleanup after, e.g
[29] +
cleanup,
[30] +
cleanup.
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18:30, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
And if there are magic words "Proceedings of SPIE" "Proceedings of the SPIE" "Proc SPIE" "Proc. SPIE" "SPIE Proceedings" "SPIE Proc." "SPIE Proc" and "Proceedings of the Society of Photo-Optical Instrumentation Engineers" should all be added. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 18:39, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
Hi, The citation bot is putting in links to Zenodo. It is consider problematic and best avoided. scope_creep Talk 10:05, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
|work=The Washington Post
to |newspaper=The Washington Post
, but only for this newspaper in particular. It's pointless and clogs watchlists. A fix for this was requested before but never seems to have been implemented.
|journal=
giving the book title and |series=
pointing to LNCS, it converts it into cite book (correct!) but fails to change |title=
to |contribution=
and |journal=
to |title=
, leaving the reference in a broken state.
|journal=
parameter and triggering a CS1 error. —
David Eppstein (
talk)
20:24, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
It's not really a bug, but I think it's a worthy addition to the bot.
Spinixster
(trout me!)
02:53, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
On
Gazette de Berne, this edit
[31] of this BOT is wrong for two reasons: a) BOT modified a correct cite web in a wrong cite web, b) BOT added a completely wrong date (1677).
A ntv (
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18:34, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
These errors are improvements, because they flag existing problems that were not reported.
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04:33, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
|title=
), but despite being a sometimes commenter on this talk page, I actually came here now to report the same error at
Special:Diff/1183763093. Maybe Citation bot should check for |periodical=
and its aliases before changing the type of citation template wrapper. I've been working on
Category:CS1 errors: periodical ignored (24,175), and I'm never going to be able to keep up with Citation bot creating this error.
Folly Mox (
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13:16, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
|website=
is present, I can't think of a case where it would be an error to reparameterise |website=
to |via=
, unless |via=
is already present.
Folly Mox (
talk)
00:09, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
|work=
parameter from {{
cite book}} without adequate preparation time.I do plan to start contacting editors who frequently run Citation bot, introduce this error, and then never check the output or help fix it, as required by the guidance at the top of Citation bot's userpage. I know the responsibility does not fall solely on the maintainers.
Folly Mox (
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18:21, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
journal
(as can be seen in the linked diff: it expands the abbreviated form), then the bot should be reparameterising |journal=
to |series=
if |series=
is not set.I've stated before that Citation bot needs to have more awareness of what parameters are present in the citation it's editing when it changes the template type, but it also occurs to me that it's way too aggressive at changing templates to {{
cite book}} whenever it finds an isbn. A lot of the errors stem from editors citing webpages with bibliographic information (like library records, publisher landing pages, or book retailers) in order to establish the existence of a book, which is not great practice and has been discussed on this talkpage before. But many other errors come from the fact that conference proceedings and journal issues can also have isbns, and those require different parameters and are created using different templates by other citation tools.In my journey through
Special:RandomInCategory/CS1 errors: periodical ignored, my rough estimate is that 50% of these errors (±10%) are introduced by Citation bot.
Folly Mox (
talk)
11:42, 5 January 2024 (UTC)A user brought to my attention a possibly new type of error by the bot which causes "}}: |website= ignored" and "|journal= ignored" messages. I'm not clear on what's going on, so here are the diffs they found: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Abductive ( reasoning) 22:19, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
Suggestion: IF [changed "cite web" to "cite book"] AND ["|website=" exists] THEN [change "website=" to "via="] - - this would preserve useful info. Cheers
Protalina (
talk)
15:31, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
|periodical=
to {{
cite book}} (even the example I just gave is a different kind of problem), but it will at least: not populate
Category:CS1 errors: periodical ignored (24,175); and display in |via=
whatever value was held in |website=
instead of hiding it behind a template error.
Folly Mox (
talk)
16:28, 12 May 2024 (UTC){{!}} Reuters
from the |title=
See also [34]. Should cover the undotted version 'Adv Genet' too. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 13:53, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
|work=Reuters
to |agency=Reuters
|newspaper=Radiofreeeurope/Radioliberty
|newspaper=Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty
|title=Newstream
Example
https://reut.rs/3NMDRBT should be expanded to
https://www.reuters.com/video/watch/deadly-artillery-attack-hits-donetsk-mar-idOV454213062022RP1/ - we should not have shortned URL links.
Jonatan Svensson Glad (
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19:42, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
{title}
in title
OA-bot is wrong. Scholarpedia is clearly open access. Same for Medknow, ASBMB journals.
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08:36, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
|journal=42nd Cospar Scientific Assembly
|journal=42nd COSPAR Scientific Assembly
|chapter-url=
to |url=
for
https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1057%2F9781137353726_6.pdf despite it being the chapter URL and not the URL for the entire book
|chapter=The Lausanne <SCP>II</SCP> in <SCP>M</SCP> anila 1989 International Congress on World Evangelization
and|title=<SCP>D</SCP>urán of <SCP>H</SCP>uesca (C. 1160–1230): A <SCP>W</SCP>aldensian Seeking a Remedy to Heresy
|journal=Chemkon
|journal=CHEMKON
!Nothing requested -- OR -- pages got lost during initial authorization
" after login. This happens every time when I login, and I will have to paste the page name again.
Probably your web browser security settings. Your sessions exist on the server.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
14:49, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
This is when Citation bot changes from web.archive.org to reuters.com, it does not change the title in the same edit.
Jonatan Svensson Glad (
talk)
19:07, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
I have fixed the reference. That is an odd case of bad existing data. I will look at how to make the bot not do this.
AManWithNoPlan (
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00:22, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
!Nothing requested -- OR -- pages got lost during initial authorization "
so then I have to put in the page name again, which will work. So every time I re-login, either from a different browser, clearing cookies, or session expiry, I have to enter the page name twice. The first time will show the error message, and the second time will work.
See
User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_39#Myrealnamm_cannot_login. This is not something that can be fixed.
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20:08, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Jeannette_Ng&diff=1114953358&oldid=1107442094
This edit is the result of the assumption that a title would only be used by one article in one journal. Ng's short story has been linked to an unrelated essay by an unrelated academic. DS ( talk) 13:58, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
{{ notabug}} - very old edit. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 20:04, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
They weren't removed. Search for "access-date" in the diff and you'll see them all.
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Over here, Citation bot added s2cid, found it identical to the provided URL and promptly stripped out the URL. Now, that might make sense for a lot of citation templates, but this one was using a {{ Cite web}} template, which promptly throws a CS1 error as a result of not having a URL.
Yes, in this case the reference should have been using {{ Cite journal}} not {{ Cite web}}. Still, I don't think taking a functioning if less-than-ideal reference and changing it into throwing CS1-errors without any substantial improvements is particularly helpful behavior. This might well have been fixed since (it was the better part of a year ago, after all, I just happened on it today), but if not, perhaps Citation bot might want to check when stripping URLs whether the reference it's stripping them from is using Cite web, especially in cases where all it's doing is moving functionally the same link to a differently-named parameter? AddWitty NameHere 17:56, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
{{ fixed}} AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 16:59, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
In Special:Diff/1232727473, the bot changed the capitalization of the journal above from "imeni" to "Imeni". I don't speak Russian but I'm guessing from context that this is a connecting word that should be lowercase. Anyone who knows Russian care to weigh in? In the original Cyrillic it appears to be mostly abbreviated (and the other proper noun phrases within the title are capitalized only on the first word): Записки научных семинаров Ленинградского отделения Математического института им. В.А. Стеклова АН СССР (ЛОМИ). — David Eppstein ( talk) 19:07, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
|asin=
and |asin-tld=
so this:
{{cite book |title=Doctor Who: 73 Yards (Target Collection)|id={{ASIN|1785948865|country=uk}}}}
{{cite book |title=Doctor Who: 73 Yards (Target Collection)|asin=1785948865 |asin-tld=uk}}
{{
cite book}}
: Check |asin=
value (
help)|isbn=1-78594-886-5
{{cite book |title=Doctor Who: 73 Yards (Target Collection) |isbn={{format ISBN|1785948865}}}}
|page(s)=
), etc.This should cover DOI prefixes
per https://academic.oup.com/mnras/pages/About
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Archive 35 | ← | Archive 37 | Archive 38 | Archive 39 |
Not sure if Citation bot assumed that a the presence of a doi meant it was a journal, but the ref was pointing to a piece in the Trinity College Library archives collection. Attributed authors were picked up and added in ways that created CS1 errors.
—Carter (Tcr25) (
talk)
13:30, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
It appears that Citation Bot has a blacklist for generic titles. "MSN" is a common generic title that I see Citation Bot add, so it should be added to that blacklist. (I know the diff I linked is old, but I've seen this happen recently.):Jay8g [
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Hi bot.can you help correct a typo on the AS racine fc page you just edited?
The page title "AS Racine FC" is wrong. The correct title is "AS Racines F.C".
Please correct it. RoaringEdits ( talk) 14:18, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
Hello,
According to the documentation at Template:Cite journal:
However, it seems citation bot unlinks the journal= parameter (by default?). Is this intentional? Should the documentation be updated if wikilinking journals is discouraged? Or should citation bot be updated to honor an existing wikilink, if any? ( Example diff. There's some other questionable changes in there but that's probably from bad input data and harder to deal with.). SnowFire ( talk) 21:16, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
|journal=[[Foo|Everything]]
, not |journal=[[Foo|Something]], something else
. 21:29, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
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21:29, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
!Category appears to be empty
|website=
is set.{{
cite web}}
to {{
cite book}}
ostensibly when url=
https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/295/295446/bullshit-jobs/9780141983479.html.
|website=
to |via=
instead of |periodical=
in the context of {{
Cite book}}, or rolling back the deprecation of the |periodical=
aliases from {{
Cite book}}, or having Citation bot output {{
Cite conference}} or {{
Citation}} to support more parameters.
Folly Mox (
talk)
09:32, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
|volume=26
and |issue=26
, bot omits |volume=
and keeps |issue=
|volume=
preferentially to |issue=
when the two are identical
Past and Present only has issue numbers. There is no volume number. That's erroneous metadata. See
[9].
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23:10, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
URLs are case insensitive (
URL : "Although schemes are case-insensitive, the canonical form is lowercase and documents that specify schemes must do so with lowercase letters."), if something broke, it's not because of the casing.
Headbomb (alt) (
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17:08, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
|url=
key name. These errors are not very common, but I've seen enough of them, they exist. Not sure how to check. Probably slicing the citation string along "|" and making sure each segment contains at least one "=". It's imperfect since URLs (like this one) often contain a "=". If it detects a URL "https?://" then temporarily mask it out before doing the "=" test. --
Green
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21:57, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
This is a series, and should not be added to the journal parameter of a cite book.
Like all other lone I in the middle of a journal name (save for Part I / Section I), should be lowercase. Reporting every single one individually is annoying.
Headbomb {
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17:53, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
Dear citation bot: I need a favor; please cite the sources of this articles: Diamonds Are Forever (film); Carlos Alberto Rentería Mantilla; Epiphone Casino and 1988 Writers Guild of America strike. Best wishes. 2800:484:D473:700:C502:BC5C:682A:6B88 ( talk) 21:54, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
|website=
was set in the existing citation (fixed with {{
cite book}}).
See also [17] Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 10:22, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
I've seen Citation Bot periodically adding the current date to citations where it clearly does not belong. I'm guessing this is some issue with the metadata on the pages in question, but I wonder if there's some way to avoid it - one thing I can think of would be to prevent it from adding the current date (citations where that is actually valid could have the date added by a future bot run when it is no longer the current date), but maybe there's a better option.:Jay8g [
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00:26, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
|trans-title=
parameter|trans-title=
parameter of a {{Cite}} template, despite
MOS:CONFORMTITLE.
|orig-date
parameter in the cite book template|orig-date
parameter in the
cite book template e.g. |orig-date=First published 1859
is replaced with |orig-date=1859
.|orig-date=First published 1859
rather than |orig-date=1859
.
Switch the damn thing off. Or fix the errors it introduced. Don't leave it to other poor saps to clean up its mess. DuncanHill ( talk) 10:14, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
the result of sites with overeager structure putting the current date in the meta elements of the html header, because there is no url and no html header that the bot could have taken this date from. I tend to agree with the original poster: if this is not going to be fixed quickly then the bot needs to be shut down. — David Eppstein ( talk) 22:45, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
|journal=Jsae Review
|journal=JSAE Review
I would not call this a bug, but
the site's name is MovieCrow (find this capitalisation over
here and their official Twitter
X handle), yet adding the ref via
WP:VE or
WP:ProveIt renders www.moviecrow.com in the website field rather than MovieCrow, and no date. Could this be fixed when the citation bot is used, please? --
Kailash29792
(talk)
06:51, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
I'm not sure if it ever makes sense to add |title= when |script-title= is already there, but it definitely doesn't seem to make sense when there's both |script-title= and |trans-title=.:Jay8g [
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|title=
isn't even correct: what Citation bot got its hands on there is |website=
.
Folly Mox (
talk)
22:13, 13 June 2024 (UTC)Headbomb, it's pointless getting Citation bot to make edits like this and this because the next time that Legobot runs (one minute past the hour), it will ignore what Citation bot did and overwrite it with text copied from the page where the RfC is taking place. If the citation really needs to be amended, this should be done at the source - Talk:Colombia#rfc_CF0B8D1 and Talk:Emir Abdelkader#rfc_54680D6. Legobot will then copy the amended version to the RfC listings. -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 19:57, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
I was recently asked to add ISSNs to all journals at a FAC, and wondered why it isn't automatically added when hitting "expand citations" or when automatically filling up citations in the journal citation toolbar? FunkMonk ( talk) 20:38, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
Previous note:
This is more of a FYI / request for clarification than a bug report, although there might be a problem with these edits. Bot edit:
Special:Diff/1210636446 changed a number of URLs I added manually using the recent new Google books URLs back to the "Classic" Google books version. Working with the new URL format was a bit of pain, especially getting a page number link to function, and I'm not even sure it is an improvement, but it looks like Google is trying to move to the new format? On all the old style links page I see a link to "try the new Google books". The new style URL looks like this:
https://www.google.com/books/edition/Encyclopedia_of_Music_in_the_20th_Centur/m8W2AgAAQBAJ?gbpv=1&pg=PA379 , the Classic style the bot is converting to is:
https://books.google.com/books?id=m8W2AgAAQBAJ&pg=PA379 Is this still correct behavior? My feeling is that this wasn't a helpful edit, but I'm worried that neither URL format is necessarily stable now if Google are in the process of changing or deprecating their Books URLs. What format should Wikipedia use? Is there a better place to ask this question?
Salpynx (
talk)
19:31, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
I will work on reworking the code to make "new" URLs. I will have to do it as a pull request to work out the kinks, and it will take time. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 15:10, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Another example:
diff which throws a Cite journal requires |journal= error. If a {{
cite journal}} has both |journal=
and |series=
with identical or similar values, then |series=
should be dropped, not |journal=
.
Boghog (
talk)
11:16, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
I think a template change to
Template:Cite journal would be better.
Spinixster
(trout me!)
02:50, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Still needs lots of cleanup after, e.g
[29] +
cleanup,
[30] +
cleanup.
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18:30, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
And if there are magic words "Proceedings of SPIE" "Proceedings of the SPIE" "Proc SPIE" "Proc. SPIE" "SPIE Proceedings" "SPIE Proc." "SPIE Proc" and "Proceedings of the Society of Photo-Optical Instrumentation Engineers" should all be added. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 18:39, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
Hi, The citation bot is putting in links to Zenodo. It is consider problematic and best avoided. scope_creep Talk 10:05, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
|work=The Washington Post
to |newspaper=The Washington Post
, but only for this newspaper in particular. It's pointless and clogs watchlists. A fix for this was requested before but never seems to have been implemented.
|journal=
giving the book title and |series=
pointing to LNCS, it converts it into cite book (correct!) but fails to change |title=
to |contribution=
and |journal=
to |title=
, leaving the reference in a broken state.
|journal=
parameter and triggering a CS1 error. —
David Eppstein (
talk)
20:24, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
It's not really a bug, but I think it's a worthy addition to the bot.
Spinixster
(trout me!)
02:53, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
On
Gazette de Berne, this edit
[31] of this BOT is wrong for two reasons: a) BOT modified a correct cite web in a wrong cite web, b) BOT added a completely wrong date (1677).
A ntv (
talk)
18:34, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
These errors are improvements, because they flag existing problems that were not reported.
Headbomb {
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04:33, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
|title=
), but despite being a sometimes commenter on this talk page, I actually came here now to report the same error at
Special:Diff/1183763093. Maybe Citation bot should check for |periodical=
and its aliases before changing the type of citation template wrapper. I've been working on
Category:CS1 errors: periodical ignored (24,175), and I'm never going to be able to keep up with Citation bot creating this error.
Folly Mox (
talk)
13:16, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
|website=
is present, I can't think of a case where it would be an error to reparameterise |website=
to |via=
, unless |via=
is already present.
Folly Mox (
talk)
00:09, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
|work=
parameter from {{
cite book}} without adequate preparation time.I do plan to start contacting editors who frequently run Citation bot, introduce this error, and then never check the output or help fix it, as required by the guidance at the top of Citation bot's userpage. I know the responsibility does not fall solely on the maintainers.
Folly Mox (
talk)
18:21, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
journal
(as can be seen in the linked diff: it expands the abbreviated form), then the bot should be reparameterising |journal=
to |series=
if |series=
is not set.I've stated before that Citation bot needs to have more awareness of what parameters are present in the citation it's editing when it changes the template type, but it also occurs to me that it's way too aggressive at changing templates to {{
cite book}} whenever it finds an isbn. A lot of the errors stem from editors citing webpages with bibliographic information (like library records, publisher landing pages, or book retailers) in order to establish the existence of a book, which is not great practice and has been discussed on this talkpage before. But many other errors come from the fact that conference proceedings and journal issues can also have isbns, and those require different parameters and are created using different templates by other citation tools.In my journey through
Special:RandomInCategory/CS1 errors: periodical ignored, my rough estimate is that 50% of these errors (±10%) are introduced by Citation bot.
Folly Mox (
talk)
11:42, 5 January 2024 (UTC)A user brought to my attention a possibly new type of error by the bot which causes "}}: |website= ignored" and "|journal= ignored" messages. I'm not clear on what's going on, so here are the diffs they found: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Abductive ( reasoning) 22:19, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
Suggestion: IF [changed "cite web" to "cite book"] AND ["|website=" exists] THEN [change "website=" to "via="] - - this would preserve useful info. Cheers
Protalina (
talk)
15:31, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
|periodical=
to {{
cite book}} (even the example I just gave is a different kind of problem), but it will at least: not populate
Category:CS1 errors: periodical ignored (24,175); and display in |via=
whatever value was held in |website=
instead of hiding it behind a template error.
Folly Mox (
talk)
16:28, 12 May 2024 (UTC){{!}} Reuters
from the |title=
See also [34]. Should cover the undotted version 'Adv Genet' too. Headbomb { t · c · p · b} 13:53, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
|work=Reuters
to |agency=Reuters
|newspaper=Radiofreeeurope/Radioliberty
|newspaper=Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty
|title=Newstream
Example
https://reut.rs/3NMDRBT should be expanded to
https://www.reuters.com/video/watch/deadly-artillery-attack-hits-donetsk-mar-idOV454213062022RP1/ - we should not have shortned URL links.
Jonatan Svensson Glad (
talk)
19:42, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
{title}
in title
OA-bot is wrong. Scholarpedia is clearly open access. Same for Medknow, ASBMB journals.
Headbomb {
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08:36, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
|journal=42nd Cospar Scientific Assembly
|journal=42nd COSPAR Scientific Assembly
|chapter-url=
to |url=
for
https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1057%2F9781137353726_6.pdf despite it being the chapter URL and not the URL for the entire book
|chapter=The Lausanne <SCP>II</SCP> in <SCP>M</SCP> anila 1989 International Congress on World Evangelization
and|title=<SCP>D</SCP>urán of <SCP>H</SCP>uesca (C. 1160–1230): A <SCP>W</SCP>aldensian Seeking a Remedy to Heresy
|journal=Chemkon
|journal=CHEMKON
!Nothing requested -- OR -- pages got lost during initial authorization
" after login. This happens every time when I login, and I will have to paste the page name again.
Probably your web browser security settings. Your sessions exist on the server.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
14:49, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
This is when Citation bot changes from web.archive.org to reuters.com, it does not change the title in the same edit.
Jonatan Svensson Glad (
talk)
19:07, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
I have fixed the reference. That is an odd case of bad existing data. I will look at how to make the bot not do this.
AManWithNoPlan (
talk)
00:22, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
!Nothing requested -- OR -- pages got lost during initial authorization "
so then I have to put in the page name again, which will work. So every time I re-login, either from a different browser, clearing cookies, or session expiry, I have to enter the page name twice. The first time will show the error message, and the second time will work.
See
User_talk:Citation_bot/Archive_39#Myrealnamm_cannot_login. This is not something that can be fixed.
Headbomb {
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20:08, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Jeannette_Ng&diff=1114953358&oldid=1107442094
This edit is the result of the assumption that a title would only be used by one article in one journal. Ng's short story has been linked to an unrelated essay by an unrelated academic. DS ( talk) 13:58, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
{{ notabug}} - very old edit. AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 20:04, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
They weren't removed. Search for "access-date" in the diff and you'll see them all.
Headbomb {
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23:33, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
Over here, Citation bot added s2cid, found it identical to the provided URL and promptly stripped out the URL. Now, that might make sense for a lot of citation templates, but this one was using a {{ Cite web}} template, which promptly throws a CS1 error as a result of not having a URL.
Yes, in this case the reference should have been using {{ Cite journal}} not {{ Cite web}}. Still, I don't think taking a functioning if less-than-ideal reference and changing it into throwing CS1-errors without any substantial improvements is particularly helpful behavior. This might well have been fixed since (it was the better part of a year ago, after all, I just happened on it today), but if not, perhaps Citation bot might want to check when stripping URLs whether the reference it's stripping them from is using Cite web, especially in cases where all it's doing is moving functionally the same link to a differently-named parameter? AddWitty NameHere 17:56, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
{{ fixed}} AManWithNoPlan ( talk) 16:59, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
In Special:Diff/1232727473, the bot changed the capitalization of the journal above from "imeni" to "Imeni". I don't speak Russian but I'm guessing from context that this is a connecting word that should be lowercase. Anyone who knows Russian care to weigh in? In the original Cyrillic it appears to be mostly abbreviated (and the other proper noun phrases within the title are capitalized only on the first word): Записки научных семинаров Ленинградского отделения Математического института им. В.А. Стеклова АН СССР (ЛОМИ). — David Eppstein ( talk) 19:07, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
|asin=
and |asin-tld=
so this:
{{cite book |title=Doctor Who: 73 Yards (Target Collection)|id={{ASIN|1785948865|country=uk}}}}
{{cite book |title=Doctor Who: 73 Yards (Target Collection)|asin=1785948865 |asin-tld=uk}}
{{
cite book}}
: Check |asin=
value (
help)|isbn=1-78594-886-5
{{cite book |title=Doctor Who: 73 Yards (Target Collection) |isbn={{format ISBN|1785948865}}}}
|page(s)=
), etc.This should cover DOI prefixes
per https://academic.oup.com/mnras/pages/About