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Continued from User_talk:Bluerasberry/Archive_27#references_are_still_not_doing_the_trick Blue Rasberry (talk) 13:21, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Hello again. I am not giving up. I think this page should be on Wikipedia. I am sending you these references and I hope they will do the trick I know the first reference is OK as it was approved already. Please let me know I am not sure what to do now Still love that picture of your hamster
Interview about Absolutely Amazing eBooks on Good Morning Florida Keys with Jenna Stauffer ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq_oWM0QYCQ). Interview with Shirrel Rhoades in Florida Keys Weekly ( http://www.absolutelyamazingebooks.com/images/newsaboutaaeb/Keys%20Weekly%20Sept%2022%202012.pdf). Longtime Washingtonian Magazine editor jack Limbert wrote a column about Absolutely Amazing eBooks ( http://jacklimpert.com/2014/05/writing-well-still-plausible-way-make-living/).
yes? what do I do next to get this page up and approved? Please help. Keywestbookworm ( talk) 16:15, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
Hello again Dear Bluerasberry: The three sources I gave you last time around were about AAeB and published by Florida Keys Weekly Newspaper, an online blog, and Channel 19.
Interview about Absolutely Amazing eBooks on Good Morning Florida Keys with Jenna Stauffer ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq_oWM0QYCQ). Interview in Florida Keys Weekly ( http://www.absolutelyamazingebooks.com/images/newsaboutaaeb/Keys%20Weekly%20Sept%2022%202012.pdf). Longtime Washingtonian Magazine editor jack Limbert wrote a column that talks about Absolutely Amazing eBooks ( http://jacklimpert.com/2014/05/writing-well-still-plausible-way-make-living/).
That was exactly what you asked to send and I am very frustrated and confused as to what is needed. I have looked at the rules and as far as I can tell the these three fit the requirements. You have said I need three sources and have approved the Channel 19 source so why doesn't the Florida Keys Weekly Newspaper source and the online blog source count?
I am sorry to be going on about this but I think this page should be included in Wikipedia so I am going to keep trying and I just want to get it right. Please help and thanks Keywestbookworm ( talk) 12:11, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Hey, thought you might be interested to know that Medicine.wiki is now active, in case you and/or other Wiki Project Med participants want to contribute in some way. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 19:31, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
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The Half Barnstar |
This is half a barnstar as I'm hoping that you will pass the other half onto the artist of the wonderful image appearing at Jashodaben Narendrabhai Modi. Thanks for doing the work to transfer the copyright - do pass on our best wishes. Victuallers ( talk) 10:16, 31 July 2015 (UTC) |
Hello.
Hope you recall our meeting at Wikimania.
As discussed, please find the link to at least two deleted articles on AIDS Control Societies in India in this section of En:WP admin's talk page.
Can you ensure restoration or an explanation as to why deletion was so desperately needed? -- Muzammil ( talk) 09:06, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Editor conduct in e-cigs articles. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Editor conduct in e-cigs articles/Evidence. Please add your evidence by August 18, 2015, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Editor conduct in e-cigs articles/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Lankiveil ( speak to me) 11:24, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
Hi, I hope you are doing fine.
We recently had a discussion on the State of New York University page about merging the board of trustees page with the university page.
I wanted to let you know that the page of one of the trustees Joseph Belluck has been nominated for deletion. I would really appreciate it if you could support the page so that it is not deleted: /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Joseph_Warren_Belluck
Thank you very much Nwerner1 ( talk) 13:34, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
Hi Bluerasberry. There is an RFC here that hasn't attracted any comments as of yet through the normal RFC process (only editors I've pinged). I noticed that you were one of the most active editors at WikiProject medicine and you're probably the only editor I know that is active on medical topics anyway, besides @ Anthonyhcole:, who I already pinged about this page back in January. It is a pretty high-investment discussion where you'd have to read through some of the discussion and the article-content and maybe that's scared off a few folks. Getting the medical literature down is the only thing that's really still needed to get this GAN-ready.
BTW - I've actually been working on Acupuncture on a volunteer basis, mostly focusing on the non-medical stuff (History, Adoption, etc.) and rather enjoyed it. It's obviously (IMO) not a real treatment, but it's interesting seeing how they myth has spread and evolved over time.
PS - were you the one that told me that the "Intro" section where a study's author summarizes the literature was a MEDRS-compliant secondary source? @ Doc James: said you couldn't use any portion of a source where original experimental results are introduced and that made the body of source material much more manageable. CorporateM ( Talk) 05:33, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
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Bananasoldier ( talk) 02:22, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
Hi Lane, I hope all's going well. I'm with the communications department at SGU. I had made edits to the SGU page, basically just putting a bunch of markety stuff on there because it hadn't been updated in a long time. A lot was deleted, which I'm OK with - I understand there are rules and we can abide by them. Can you point me to the guidelines for a university or an educational institution in general? I looked at the pages for some of our competitors (Ross and AUA for example: /info/en/?search=Ross_University_School_of_Medicine; /info/en/?search=American_University_of_Antigua). Even Yale ( /info/en/?search=Yale_School_of_Medicine). I think they're all a cross between what's there now and what I had added, mostly without the figures we had added. Let me know. Thanks!
Brett — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.206.17.126 ( talk) 18:49, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
(catchy header, right?) About this. As you know, I work with early stage biomedical stuff, and am very aware of how much work has to be done, to develop a medical product, from an early stage idea. And there is a high chance of failure. That work requires money. In a capitalist system, that money comes from the private sector, which has lots and lots of investment opportunities, all the time. So why would any sane person, invest their money in an early stage biomedical product? Their money will be tied up for years, and there is a high chance all their money will be lost. This is why patents are so important in the biomedical space. After development is done, if (and it is a big if) it is successful, there will be a few years left on the patent, during which the investors can get their money back (and then some - they were investors, after all). Then the patents expire, competition will come in, and prices will fall. That is how it works.
The story with flibanserin is that Boehringer gave up on it, and yes, a startup was formed to get investment to try another time to do trials and see if they could show it worked and get it to market. There is nothing "fishy" about that per se, in my view. Do you see what I mean?
With regard to the medicalization of sex... I am not sure what you are struggling with there. Apparently a bunch of guys had a hard time getting erections, and now with viagra etc they can. I don't see that as a bad thing. Sprout is trying to do the same for women whose bodies don't respond sexually as they would like.... and I don't see that as a bad thing either. It is isn't clear to me what you are objecting to with the "medicalization of sex" thing. I think there are important questions about where our health care dollars go, as a society, and for sure about making sure there is fair access for everybody (e.g. reimbursement for contraception).... but I don't understand where you are coming from on that, and would be interested to hear more.
If you don't want to discuss, I would understand that too. Jytdog ( talk) 13:51, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
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I know you do a lot with page views, so you might be interested in this explanation: Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#What happens to Page-Views .28hits.2C using stats.grok.se.29 after a page is moved.3F WhatamIdoing ( talk) 21:45, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Franco. Legobot ( talk) 00:04, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the offer but I would only consider off-wiki communication for something extraordinary. There is nothing at WP:No legal threats that cannot be discussed at its talk page. I am very sympathetic to the idea that NLT should not be enforced in a mechanical way without an attempt to think about whether there is a content problem that should be addressed, and without looking at the editor's approach to see whether calm discussion should occur first. If editor A makes statements threatening editor B, it is likely that A will have to be blocked pending a retraction. However, there could be other less-clear circumstances where a brief discussion should occur before any block. The tricky point concerns what advice should be given to A or B, and that's where we part company. I think that anything more than providing a link to an official WMF page is inviting trouble because a how to respond guide written by general editors might lead someone down an unhelpful path.
People disagree about things all the time, and it's best to accept that editors have different opinions. When the text on a page is disputed, the standard dispute-resolution approaches should be followed. I may respond to any further substantive points raised at NLT, but there is no reason for the few who have engaged so far to discuss the matter until exhaustion. Johnuniq ( talk) 07:23, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Working on an overhaul of this article. I removed content sourced by unreliable references. Feel free to help with its expansion. Hoping to get this article promoted to Good article status eventually. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 17:28, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Lane, I just read your extensive piece in the signpost discussing the role of volunteers and conferences. It is an excellent piece on many levels; there was a lot of information new to me, and it provided a thoughtful discussion about issues.
I did have two minor points to make. I'll leave it up to you whether they are worth addressing as an edit, but it is not inconceivable you will be asked to share this document more widely and if so you might consider the following two points:
I grew up in Seattle in the 70's and was pleased to find that someone had already created a page. The backstory is interesting and during that time my mom (still kicking in her 80's!) was a manager for a band. Though as far as I recall, there were no live bands at Shelly's Leg, she opened my eyes to different lifestyles (being straight and mostly conservative at the time). I have read much of the cite material and found some things that tell a conflicting story and after rereading the article found that the flow did not lend itself to the impact that SL had on both the Seattle Gay scene or emerging disco era. I would like to try my hand at reworking the article and feel that since you put almost all, if not all, of the work into it that it would be the right thing to do to see if you would be interested in collaborating on a revamp. I would be interested in your feedback. I am leaving the current article intact and working on the revamp in my sandbox. -- SlimJim Talk 08:34, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
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Archive 25 | Archive 26 | Archive 27 | Archive 28 | Archive 29 | Archive 30 | → | Archive 35 |
Continued from User_talk:Bluerasberry/Archive_27#references_are_still_not_doing_the_trick Blue Rasberry (talk) 13:21, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Hello again. I am not giving up. I think this page should be on Wikipedia. I am sending you these references and I hope they will do the trick I know the first reference is OK as it was approved already. Please let me know I am not sure what to do now Still love that picture of your hamster
Interview about Absolutely Amazing eBooks on Good Morning Florida Keys with Jenna Stauffer ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq_oWM0QYCQ). Interview with Shirrel Rhoades in Florida Keys Weekly ( http://www.absolutelyamazingebooks.com/images/newsaboutaaeb/Keys%20Weekly%20Sept%2022%202012.pdf). Longtime Washingtonian Magazine editor jack Limbert wrote a column about Absolutely Amazing eBooks ( http://jacklimpert.com/2014/05/writing-well-still-plausible-way-make-living/).
yes? what do I do next to get this page up and approved? Please help. Keywestbookworm ( talk) 16:15, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
Hello again Dear Bluerasberry: The three sources I gave you last time around were about AAeB and published by Florida Keys Weekly Newspaper, an online blog, and Channel 19.
Interview about Absolutely Amazing eBooks on Good Morning Florida Keys with Jenna Stauffer ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq_oWM0QYCQ). Interview in Florida Keys Weekly ( http://www.absolutelyamazingebooks.com/images/newsaboutaaeb/Keys%20Weekly%20Sept%2022%202012.pdf). Longtime Washingtonian Magazine editor jack Limbert wrote a column that talks about Absolutely Amazing eBooks ( http://jacklimpert.com/2014/05/writing-well-still-plausible-way-make-living/).
That was exactly what you asked to send and I am very frustrated and confused as to what is needed. I have looked at the rules and as far as I can tell the these three fit the requirements. You have said I need three sources and have approved the Channel 19 source so why doesn't the Florida Keys Weekly Newspaper source and the online blog source count?
I am sorry to be going on about this but I think this page should be included in Wikipedia so I am going to keep trying and I just want to get it right. Please help and thanks Keywestbookworm ( talk) 12:11, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Hey, thought you might be interested to know that Medicine.wiki is now active, in case you and/or other Wiki Project Med participants want to contribute in some way. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 19:31, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
![]() |
The Half Barnstar |
This is half a barnstar as I'm hoping that you will pass the other half onto the artist of the wonderful image appearing at Jashodaben Narendrabhai Modi. Thanks for doing the work to transfer the copyright - do pass on our best wishes. Victuallers ( talk) 10:16, 31 July 2015 (UTC) |
Hello.
Hope you recall our meeting at Wikimania.
As discussed, please find the link to at least two deleted articles on AIDS Control Societies in India in this section of En:WP admin's talk page.
Can you ensure restoration or an explanation as to why deletion was so desperately needed? -- Muzammil ( talk) 09:06, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Editor conduct in e-cigs articles. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Editor conduct in e-cigs articles/Evidence. Please add your evidence by August 18, 2015, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Editor conduct in e-cigs articles/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Lankiveil ( speak to me) 11:24, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
Hi, I hope you are doing fine.
We recently had a discussion on the State of New York University page about merging the board of trustees page with the university page.
I wanted to let you know that the page of one of the trustees Joseph Belluck has been nominated for deletion. I would really appreciate it if you could support the page so that it is not deleted: /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Joseph_Warren_Belluck
Thank you very much Nwerner1 ( talk) 13:34, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
Hi Bluerasberry. There is an RFC here that hasn't attracted any comments as of yet through the normal RFC process (only editors I've pinged). I noticed that you were one of the most active editors at WikiProject medicine and you're probably the only editor I know that is active on medical topics anyway, besides @ Anthonyhcole:, who I already pinged about this page back in January. It is a pretty high-investment discussion where you'd have to read through some of the discussion and the article-content and maybe that's scared off a few folks. Getting the medical literature down is the only thing that's really still needed to get this GAN-ready.
BTW - I've actually been working on Acupuncture on a volunteer basis, mostly focusing on the non-medical stuff (History, Adoption, etc.) and rather enjoyed it. It's obviously (IMO) not a real treatment, but it's interesting seeing how they myth has spread and evolved over time.
PS - were you the one that told me that the "Intro" section where a study's author summarizes the literature was a MEDRS-compliant secondary source? @ Doc James: said you couldn't use any portion of a source where original experimental results are introduced and that made the body of source material much more manageable. CorporateM ( Talk) 05:33, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
![]() Hello, |
Bananasoldier ( talk) 02:22, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
Hi Lane, I hope all's going well. I'm with the communications department at SGU. I had made edits to the SGU page, basically just putting a bunch of markety stuff on there because it hadn't been updated in a long time. A lot was deleted, which I'm OK with - I understand there are rules and we can abide by them. Can you point me to the guidelines for a university or an educational institution in general? I looked at the pages for some of our competitors (Ross and AUA for example: /info/en/?search=Ross_University_School_of_Medicine; /info/en/?search=American_University_of_Antigua). Even Yale ( /info/en/?search=Yale_School_of_Medicine). I think they're all a cross between what's there now and what I had added, mostly without the figures we had added. Let me know. Thanks!
Brett — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.206.17.126 ( talk) 18:49, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
(catchy header, right?) About this. As you know, I work with early stage biomedical stuff, and am very aware of how much work has to be done, to develop a medical product, from an early stage idea. And there is a high chance of failure. That work requires money. In a capitalist system, that money comes from the private sector, which has lots and lots of investment opportunities, all the time. So why would any sane person, invest their money in an early stage biomedical product? Their money will be tied up for years, and there is a high chance all their money will be lost. This is why patents are so important in the biomedical space. After development is done, if (and it is a big if) it is successful, there will be a few years left on the patent, during which the investors can get their money back (and then some - they were investors, after all). Then the patents expire, competition will come in, and prices will fall. That is how it works.
The story with flibanserin is that Boehringer gave up on it, and yes, a startup was formed to get investment to try another time to do trials and see if they could show it worked and get it to market. There is nothing "fishy" about that per se, in my view. Do you see what I mean?
With regard to the medicalization of sex... I am not sure what you are struggling with there. Apparently a bunch of guys had a hard time getting erections, and now with viagra etc they can. I don't see that as a bad thing. Sprout is trying to do the same for women whose bodies don't respond sexually as they would like.... and I don't see that as a bad thing either. It is isn't clear to me what you are objecting to with the "medicalization of sex" thing. I think there are important questions about where our health care dollars go, as a society, and for sure about making sure there is fair access for everybody (e.g. reimbursement for contraception).... but I don't understand where you are coming from on that, and would be interested to hear more.
If you don't want to discuss, I would understand that too. Jytdog ( talk) 13:51, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
Wednesday August 19, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC | |
---|---|
![]() ![]() You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our evening "WikiWednesday" salon and knowledge-sharing workshop by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan. We also hope for the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects. We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming editathons, and other outreach activities. After the main meeting, pizza and refreshments and video games in the gallery!
Featuring a keynote talk this month to be determined! We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! -- Pharos ( talk) 15:58, 11 August 2015 (UTC) |
(You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future notifications for NYC-area events by adding or removing your name from this list.)
I know you do a lot with page views, so you might be interested in this explanation: Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#What happens to Page-Views .28hits.2C using stats.grok.se.29 after a page is moved.3F WhatamIdoing ( talk) 21:45, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Franco. Legobot ( talk) 00:04, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the offer but I would only consider off-wiki communication for something extraordinary. There is nothing at WP:No legal threats that cannot be discussed at its talk page. I am very sympathetic to the idea that NLT should not be enforced in a mechanical way without an attempt to think about whether there is a content problem that should be addressed, and without looking at the editor's approach to see whether calm discussion should occur first. If editor A makes statements threatening editor B, it is likely that A will have to be blocked pending a retraction. However, there could be other less-clear circumstances where a brief discussion should occur before any block. The tricky point concerns what advice should be given to A or B, and that's where we part company. I think that anything more than providing a link to an official WMF page is inviting trouble because a how to respond guide written by general editors might lead someone down an unhelpful path.
People disagree about things all the time, and it's best to accept that editors have different opinions. When the text on a page is disputed, the standard dispute-resolution approaches should be followed. I may respond to any further substantive points raised at NLT, but there is no reason for the few who have engaged so far to discuss the matter until exhaustion. Johnuniq ( talk) 07:23, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Working on an overhaul of this article. I removed content sourced by unreliable references. Feel free to help with its expansion. Hoping to get this article promoted to Good article status eventually. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 17:28, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Lane, I just read your extensive piece in the signpost discussing the role of volunteers and conferences. It is an excellent piece on many levels; there was a lot of information new to me, and it provided a thoughtful discussion about issues.
I did have two minor points to make. I'll leave it up to you whether they are worth addressing as an edit, but it is not inconceivable you will be asked to share this document more widely and if so you might consider the following two points:
I grew up in Seattle in the 70's and was pleased to find that someone had already created a page. The backstory is interesting and during that time my mom (still kicking in her 80's!) was a manager for a band. Though as far as I recall, there were no live bands at Shelly's Leg, she opened my eyes to different lifestyles (being straight and mostly conservative at the time). I have read much of the cite material and found some things that tell a conflicting story and after rereading the article found that the flow did not lend itself to the impact that SL had on both the Seattle Gay scene or emerging disco era. I would like to try my hand at reworking the article and feel that since you put almost all, if not all, of the work into it that it would be the right thing to do to see if you would be interested in collaborating on a revamp. I would be interested in your feedback. I am leaving the current article intact and working on the revamp in my sandbox. -- SlimJim Talk 08:34, 6 September 2015 (UTC)