Hello, Blanes tree, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Below are some pages you might find helpful. For a user-friendly interactive help forum, see the Wikipedia Teahouse.
I hope you enjoy editing here and being a
Wikipedian! Please
sign your name on
talk pages using four
tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, please see our
help pages, and if you can't find what you are looking for there, please feel free to ask me on
my talk page or place {{Help me}}
on this page and someone will drop by to help. Again, welcome!
Qflib (
talk)
18:54, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
Some of the edits you have made on my articles are fair. I agree with many of them. I have been too liberal with the use of some sources. We can agree on that.
But you need to actually research these people before making edits. You have no awareness of who these people are and what they do. If you did any research on Cameron Mason you would find that he was a well-known YouTuber before being a well-known bike racer. If this article was from 4 years ago, the article would be more about his YouTube than his cycling. This is reflected in the new reference I used for this passage (the link to his YouTube is no longer the reference for him being a content creator).
I am happy to debate on edits. In many cases you have made valid points. This one is plainly unresearched, and unlike your other edits which I will honour, this once I will continue to revert. Theobrad ( talk) 12:58, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
I just saw that you added primary source and notability tags to an article I recently expanded, on the attorney Melvin Wulf. I'm a new Wiki editor and was wondering if you could talk me through your decision to add these tags, so I can better understand what to do or not to do in the future. Thanks! Zelda Zanders ( talk) 14:55, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
Hi there, Blanes_tree. After seeing your (apparent) mistake of interpreting an editor's response in the W. David Marx AfD, I took a closer look at your edit history.
I am concerned that your edit history shows an inordinately heavy focus on @ Theobrad's contributions; in addition to targeting their edits on other pages, you have either nominated for deletion or deleted extensive passages from every single article the user has created. Focusing on a single user's work this way can often be interpreted as WP:HOUNDING, which is a form of harassment. I don't think all of your edits are off-base, but I do think several of them are non-constructive, particularly in the way you describe them. For example, you remove the word "eponymous" and describe it as "Horrible disregard for Wikipedia's encyclopaedic tone here," which is an overreaction in tone and substance. (Eponymous is a perfectly encyclopedic word that just means something is named after someone or something else.) On Cameron Mason, you removed a reliably sourced statement with the edit summary "Wikipedia is not a soapbox for YouTubers to plug their channels," even though the edit you objected to did not include a link to the subject's YouTube channel and there was no evidence that Mason was adding the text himself.
I am concerned about some of your other edits, as well. On Melvin Wulf, you added a notability tag, even though the article clearly asserts notability with adequate sourcing to clear WP:GNG. (And indeed, anyone who receives a New York Times obit is generally going to be found notable.) If you're interested in learning more about how your fellow editors interpret the notability guidelines, spending time as an observer or participant in AfD discussions will give you a good sense for this.
You've only been here a few months, but you seem to have a positive desire to make sure Wikipedia content is not promotional. This is great! I just want to be sure you are aware of the policy on WP:HOUNDING in case you were not aware of it, and to invite you to be a little less dogmatic in how you engage with your fellow volunteers. Yes, be WP:BOLD, but also be aware this is a collaborative project, and we are all WP:HERE to build the encyclopedia together. Hope this helps. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 03:46, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
Hello, Blanes tree, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Below are some pages you might find helpful. For a user-friendly interactive help forum, see the Wikipedia Teahouse.
I hope you enjoy editing here and being a
Wikipedian! Please
sign your name on
talk pages using four
tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, please see our
help pages, and if you can't find what you are looking for there, please feel free to ask me on
my talk page or place {{Help me}}
on this page and someone will drop by to help. Again, welcome!
Qflib (
talk)
18:54, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
Some of the edits you have made on my articles are fair. I agree with many of them. I have been too liberal with the use of some sources. We can agree on that.
But you need to actually research these people before making edits. You have no awareness of who these people are and what they do. If you did any research on Cameron Mason you would find that he was a well-known YouTuber before being a well-known bike racer. If this article was from 4 years ago, the article would be more about his YouTube than his cycling. This is reflected in the new reference I used for this passage (the link to his YouTube is no longer the reference for him being a content creator).
I am happy to debate on edits. In many cases you have made valid points. This one is plainly unresearched, and unlike your other edits which I will honour, this once I will continue to revert. Theobrad ( talk) 12:58, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
I just saw that you added primary source and notability tags to an article I recently expanded, on the attorney Melvin Wulf. I'm a new Wiki editor and was wondering if you could talk me through your decision to add these tags, so I can better understand what to do or not to do in the future. Thanks! Zelda Zanders ( talk) 14:55, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
Hi there, Blanes_tree. After seeing your (apparent) mistake of interpreting an editor's response in the W. David Marx AfD, I took a closer look at your edit history.
I am concerned that your edit history shows an inordinately heavy focus on @ Theobrad's contributions; in addition to targeting their edits on other pages, you have either nominated for deletion or deleted extensive passages from every single article the user has created. Focusing on a single user's work this way can often be interpreted as WP:HOUNDING, which is a form of harassment. I don't think all of your edits are off-base, but I do think several of them are non-constructive, particularly in the way you describe them. For example, you remove the word "eponymous" and describe it as "Horrible disregard for Wikipedia's encyclopaedic tone here," which is an overreaction in tone and substance. (Eponymous is a perfectly encyclopedic word that just means something is named after someone or something else.) On Cameron Mason, you removed a reliably sourced statement with the edit summary "Wikipedia is not a soapbox for YouTubers to plug their channels," even though the edit you objected to did not include a link to the subject's YouTube channel and there was no evidence that Mason was adding the text himself.
I am concerned about some of your other edits, as well. On Melvin Wulf, you added a notability tag, even though the article clearly asserts notability with adequate sourcing to clear WP:GNG. (And indeed, anyone who receives a New York Times obit is generally going to be found notable.) If you're interested in learning more about how your fellow editors interpret the notability guidelines, spending time as an observer or participant in AfD discussions will give you a good sense for this.
You've only been here a few months, but you seem to have a positive desire to make sure Wikipedia content is not promotional. This is great! I just want to be sure you are aware of the policy on WP:HOUNDING in case you were not aware of it, and to invite you to be a little less dogmatic in how you engage with your fellow volunteers. Yes, be WP:BOLD, but also be aware this is a collaborative project, and we are all WP:HERE to build the encyclopedia together. Hope this helps. Dclemens1971 ( talk) 03:46, 24 July 2024 (UTC)