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Can a cool admin help a guy out? I want to add one sentence to the world of Wikipedia. But I can't. The sentence is factual, provable, reliable (I chose the New York Times version.)
Circumcision may decrease a man's risk of getting HIV but it may also INCREASE a man's risk of getting herpes and chlamydia. (and some doctors even say other STD's too but I won't get into that and I wouldn't put caps on INCREASE.)
The article on circumcision mentions the term HIV probably 100 times (I'm not joking) and mentions "herpes" or "chlamydia" not Once. Click on the article. You tell me if it's an article on the procedure called circumcision or a pro-circumcision propaganda pamphlet.
Can a cool admin stop two guys named Avraham and Jakew (the site's dictators) from deleting my one sentence I want to add? Or possibly get new Admins to take over this article, which has fallen way below Wikipedia standards.
here's the New York Times piece... http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9C07E4D91F3AF931A35757C0A961958260&fta=y
I used to love Wikipedia until I went to add a sentence, you know? Well, thanks. 70.114.38.167 ( talk) 06:55, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Your reversion is fine with me. I'll let you deal with the template depending on how trends at UCFD turn out. Maybe have a parameter for enabling the wording to add to categories that have established collaborative intent.
Regarding your points, AFAIK language cats do not use this template. Your 'artificial legitimacy' worry should be minimal because people have always had the opportunity to edit their categories to talk about collaboration, yet the only time they bring it up is at UCFD. – Pomte 09:14, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
I don't know if i'm asking this right, but where can you get those nifty userboxes to cheer up my profile page? Puffz0r ( talk) 22:25, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
This whole cat and all it's subcats could probably be nominated due to being essentially single article cats. (By comparison, radio talk shows are not likely to have anywhere near the number of articles that a television series has.) The parent cat "Radio" on the other hand is way too vague as it is. Is it about radio broadcasts? radio technology? Audio broadcasts of any kind? Public radio? Ham radio? etc etc.
So why am I mentioning this to you? Because (as I'm currently tool-less) I'm hoping that you'll tag the cats and make the nom (I'll be happy to comment in the nom after : ) - jc37 07:21, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
These types of categories do not foster encyclopedic collaboration, since merely listening to a radio station implies neither an above-average desire nor ability to contribute encyclopedic content about it. See related precedents here, here and here.
Thanks a lot, I was assuming that since the creator of the category was simply adding the category to people, I was accidentally thinking that meant user category, but now I understand it was the actual User: wikipedian's category, and thus it's more like a "biography" category. Thanks for moving it for me! ^^ — talk § _Arsenic99_ 17:19, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I think you found the appropriate wording. thanks., DGG ( talk) 21:19, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
You were part of the discussion of the ucfd of Category:Wikipedians interested in books. I have reopened the discussion. If you wish to particpate in this second discussion, it can be found here. - LA @ 23:50, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
There is a thread on WP:AN whioch concerns your actions, it is at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Improper_archiving_of_a_user_category_for_discussion. DuncanHill ( talk) 15:46, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
You may or may not have noticed that recently I dropped notes on several talk pages suggesting this. I mean and meant no "slight" to you or anyone else by not suggesting you. (Not that you feel/felt this way, but not sure how else to put it : )
I'm just not sure that you (or VegaDark, or me, for that matter), would be "electable" at this time, considering closing, or being in, some of the more contentious discussions of late. However, that said, I'd be happy to be shown I was incorrect, and would obviously support either of you.
Anyway, I hope you're having a great day : ) - jc37 18:56, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
On your article on Andrew Moravcsik, you cite an article by him supposedly found in the Journal of Common Market Studies 1993, Vol. 31 Issue 4, p. 447. I have this journal right in front of me, but it is not by Moravcsik, as seen below:
Clearly, the citation you mentioned is incorrect. The above is from the ebscohost database. If you have a subscription, feel free to check it. Could you please check your source and correct it? Thanks. HJV ( talk) 03:04, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for clarifying! LB22 (talk to me!) Email me! 19:48, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
I had the same thought you had regarding User:Thomboykt's edit at WP:PROD]]. The article appears to be Savannah Outen. He made the very same comment (as he made at PROD) in the article. Another editor deleted it as out of place. I copied the comment and pasted it on Talk:Savannah Outen. Sbowers3 ( talk) 21:51, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
I must say that I'm amused by seeing my second job lumped in with "people who play UNO." Oh well, my fault for not watch-listing it I guess. I never watch-list cat's I think that no one in their right mind would waste the community's time trying to get deleted, but the killjoys of the world never fail. -- Kendrick7 talk 23:21, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Hello black falcon,
I am quite old user of wikipedia but participating in a talk is quite new for me so , i realy appologise for putting my request on policy page, couldn't realy understand, hope You know what i mean?
But I wants to say same thing which i wrote there and should i say that again. ok. I read article "Terrorism" to find out, where world stand to define terrorism.But it wasnt quite good experience, as a Pakistani, I know and i focus more about positive side and living in pakistan in such society where you see world as biased (which actualy not, world is not biase to pakistan). But using Pakistan's name as a state sponsoring terrorism is not american,british or any european methodology. All these countries have appreciated steps and struggles which pakistan is doing to tackle terrorism. Please remember that pakistan is the country which have given maximum sacrifices against terrorism. Wikipedia is universal source of education and millions of pakistani students get help from this source for their educational and refrence purposes. and again I would like to say that palacing Pakistan as a state sponsoring terrorism is quite indian methodology and wikipedia should not be part of this bias. Indians are right to call pakistan a state sponsoring terrorism,perhaps terrorist for them are freedom fighters for kashmiris. For millions of kashmiris, presence of indian army is a symbol of terrorism. All those groups which have been describe as terrorist groups and sponsord by pakistan are actually kashmiri groups. Managed and supported by native kashmiri people. As Pakistan claim kashmir a part of their nation, we are more then happy to support our kashmiri fellows morally. We are with them and have been with them at every world forum.Uniter nation or european union, everywhere pakistan protest against Indian state military terrorism in Kashmir.
Wikipedia is here not to chose a side, but to provide a neutral educational platform for world and I beleive it is against its fundamental policy(neutralism) and politically motivate if they keep Pakistan magnifying in their article of "Terrorism". and certainly it makes this belief very strong in young generation that WORLD IS BIASED TO PAKISTAN. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mfz21 ( talk • contribs) 00:49, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
You actually saw the discussion before me, because I normally don't view Deletion Review, but yet another one of the dialect languages I nominated for deletion is up for DRV. I think that that whole section is becoming more trouble than its worth, and it's going to get worse if the nationalist people ever discover it and start pushing their propaganda. Horologium (talk) 01:12, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
The article Sideshow Cinema which you worked extensively on sometime ago is up for deletion, I'd thought I'd let you know. Plank ( talk) 16:38, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
I have a question about how the deprecating/speedy deletion of templates works. Looking at the history, I'm thinking that you'd know the answer ... Angus McLellan (Talk) 11:53, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi,
Regarding this edit that you made, I want to bring to your attention the guidance that, in most cases, " an article should not be in both a category and its subcategory".
Cheers, Black Falcon ( Talk) 02:46, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for promptly reverting my edits to Template:Cfd-notify. I've no idea how I ended up editing that page rather than the user talk page where I was trying to leave the message. I could see the template wasn't working, but I was called away before I could look into it. Strangely, the message on the user page now looks fine. Maybe I had a browser problem. Anyway, thanks again. - Fayenatic (talk) 07:28, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi,
I noticed that you created the article Mamadou Diabaté. I was thinking of nominating the article to be featured on the DYK section of the main page ... however, I noticed one discrepancy: the third and fourth references are clearly distinct in terms of text, but link to the same website. Is this a copy-pasting error?
By the way, the DYK "hook" I had in mind is:
...that Mamadou Diabaté, a Malian kora player, was nominated for a Grammy Award in 2005, but lost to his cousin Toumani Diabaté?
What do you think?
Thanks, Black Falcon ( Talk) 08:04, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Ok, I am getting kind of tired of these administrators playing one-sided all the time. First they claim that they want to be fair and stop vandalism from both Azeris, Armenians, and Turks, but then they always seem to make decisions in favor of Armenian nationalists. Why? You remember the weak decision on Category:Armenian Genocide deniers and now when I create a category similar Category:Armenian Genocide Propagandists to that since they allowed that, they threaten to block me and remove all the pages? Why am I always discriminated against? Is there a lot of administrators that are Armenian or what? — talk § _Arsenic99_ 06:27, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Category:Association of Theological Schools in the United States and Canada. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. GreenJoe 14:17, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
-- Royalbroil 13:53, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
I apologize; I'm in grad school and get quite busy some time. I was unable to respond to your question in a timely manner. But to answer it now:
Yes, Jèrriais has a distinct orthography, which has been standardized for over 40 years. The Norman "languages" have 3 different Orthographies: that of Jèrriais, that of Dgèrnésiais, and that of the Continental Norman dialects. Sèrtchais, which is almost dead, has no standard form, but tends to copy Jèrriais/French in practice (though a simple phonetic form has been proposed). Written Jèrriais is probably readily comprehensible to speakers of other Norman dialects. Certainly, I expect Dgèrnésiais speakers would have little problem with it (the two orthographies are similar). On the same note, I can read Dgèrnésiais almost as well as I can read Jèrriais (my biggest problem is vocab differences). However, as a Jèrriais learner, I struggle immensely with understanding written Continental Norman, as the Continental Orthography (and, honestly, frequently Continental pronunciation) is quite different from Jèrriais. Compare ouaîsiaux (Jèr) to ouésiôs (Cont) or j'va (Jèr) to quéva (Cont). Now, as I'm not a native (or even fluent) speaker, this may be more difficult for me than for a native. However, I have an awful lot of linguistic backround that should make this easier for me than for most people. I expect natives would struggle with that orthographic difference. For what it's worth, the Norman Wikipedia does include some important things in both Continental Norman (specifically the Cotentinais dialect) as well as Jèrriais. There is even an article (clioche/clloche) in both dialects (I expect this was an experiment. It seems to have worked fine, but I have not noticed a like duplication since). Anyway, does this answer your question?
The Jade Knight ( talk) 05:27, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
--Cheers Victuallers ( talk) 16:58, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
HI. I don't know whether you know but Liberia is one of the least developed countries on wikipedia. Any articles particularly one with decent content is a blessing. I've been adding infobox maps to Category:Cities, towns and villages in Liberia as with sorting out most of the African countries and making the locator maps, but most of them are not even one line stubs -on the country;s major towns too!!! Is it possible you could work at expanding any of them up to an acceptable level? And also give me some sources in which I could also help at improving them. Keep up the good work ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:58, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Black Falcon, there seems to be some confusion on the above article. I believe that users do not understand WP:SYNT and therefore they are using material published in different reliable sources to synthesis and advance a position that is not claimed in any of the given citations. Can you please comment on the talk page of this article when you have time. Thanks !
Can you also please take a look here. A user keeps adding categories related to "Terrorist" or "Terrorism" to a couple of articles. However, these cats are not backed by RS. I have reverted the changes but do not plan on reverting anymore until someone can comment on this situation. The two articles in question are Ranjan Wijeratne and Lakshman Algama. Take your time Watchdogb ( talk) 16:57, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
-- BorgQueen ( talk) 11:26, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
I'd like you to look over something I wrote ( here). I'm not asking if you agree, I'm asking if you would read for accuracy. Thanks in advance. - jc37 04:21, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
for your explanation! Stephanvaningen ( talk) 21:41, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Black Falcon...I have requested in several of the UCFDs a suspension of all UCFDs on Wikipedians by media/genre interest until they can be reorganized. Since you seem interested in these categories, I would like to know your opinion, in any of the discussions with my request. Please take a look. Thank you. - LA @ 08:47, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Can you kindly help me to move Sri Lanka Tamil people to Sri Lankan Tamil people over redirect please. Thanks Taprobanus ( talk) 12:59, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
To quote you:
I'd like to offer my thoughts on the question you posted in the edit summary of this edit: how else does one establish notability?
Notability is a characteristic of topics, not of articles. If the article on Politics was poorly-written and failed to cite any reliable sources, that would not be an indication that the topic is not notable. To put it more succinctly, the current state of an article has no relevance to the notability of its topic.
Thanks for organising that section ... its had grown too long and lumped together diverse discussions under one general heading. Black Falcon ( Talk) 17:28, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
I just finished adding the list of discussions (including DRVs) for April, including numerous additions to the "Unsorted" section. I'll do the same for March after a short break. By the way, I've included links to a number of "depopulate" discussions; feel free to remove them if you think that they don't belong on the list. Black Falcon ( Talk) 21:04, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
If you have time, could you please offer your thoughts regarding the progress of the discussion here (specifically, your thoughts on the new category and what to do with the userboxes). Thanks, Black Falcon ( Talk) 19:06, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
What do you think should be done with Category:Contributors to other Wikipedias by language? It was tagged as part of the March 15 nomination, but no comment was directed at the parent category's title and I myself wasn't really set on any name. Another nomination, perhaps? Black Falcon ( Talk) 20:17, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Fixed it! The problem was caused because the image= and author_abbrev_zoo= parameters weren't set to have default values. The function that was supposed to check if they existed (#if:) was working perfectly; unfortunately, though, instead of seeing a blank parameter, it saw {{{image}}}, so assumed that there was something useful to print out. I've checked, and both fixes seem to be working. Hersfold ( t/ a/ c) 02:04, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Unfortunately, no; that's part of the reason why the template gets substed. Unless the header is hard-coded to the page it's on, it's going to lead back to wherever it is hard-coded (if that makes any sense). I can add in some code that makes a big red ugly warning message pop up when there's no subst:, but there's no way to fix the edit link without removing it entirely. Hersfold ( t/ a/ c) 05:22, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
This user named BlueBoy69, blocked me for 24 hours, for simply talking about known and verified terrorist organizations [1]. Claiming that I violated my "block", when I posted NOTHING about the Armenian Genocide nor about Azerbaijani-Armenian conflicts. I don't see why the heck can these guys have so much authority to stalk me and block me, when I didn't do anything wrong. I cited my information and covered material that verified sources discussed. In addition, I have been posting many cited information to a wide variety of articles, fighting vandalism, and not being involved in any edit wars or violating any policies. Why am I being punished like this? I mean this means, anything that doesn't agree with the POINT OF VIEW of people with admin powers, is wrong, and the wikipedia policies never apply to wikipedia. Please help me on this issue. — talk § _Arsenic99_ 07:55, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
So, I thought about doing a P2 on Portal:Lotus Connections, but I am very unfamiliar with the criteria regarding portals. You'll note in my nomination that I was very timid about even MfDing it :)
Question about P2: I considered it, but my thinking was that since the portal is very new, one could argue that it is "under construction". I imagine a lot of quality portals started out in a condition that would have failed P2 (of course, maybe that assumption is incorrect as well). So, is P2 valid even if the portal is very new, if the odds of the portal ever developing enough content to satisfy the P2 criteria are very slim? Or, is P2 so strict that even if a portal might one day meet the minimum size requirements, if it doesn't now then I can flag it with P2?
(Note I asked the same question on the MfD discussion page, but I thought people might not have it on their watchlist, so I decided to copy it over and ask you directly. Thanks!) -- Jaysweet ( talk) 16:24, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
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For your well-reasoned closure of the very contentious "...of color" CFDs. Otto4711 ( talk) 18:59, 26 March 2008 (UTC) |
I've redirected it to my userpage. End of story. Wilhelmina Will ( talk) 21:24, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, that actually works a lot better. ViperSnake151 23:58, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps the recent "speedy close" for Wikipedians in ___ should have been changed to the Wikipedians in ___ metropolitan area, since other cats are doing that. Just a thought. — Scouter Sig 03:34, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
I disagree with your position of removing Kipelov and Master from Category:Aria (band). This is a commonplace in Wikipedia to include side projects and split-off bands into such categories. Just like Lionheart (band) and Gogmagog (band) in category: Iron Maiden, Feeling B in Category:Rammstein, and so on, and so on. Garret Beaumain ( talk) 15:56, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Black Falcon, a uses has been adding Categories that are not backed by WP:RS. This violated Category Guideline #8. Is my understanding in this wrong ? Please let me know. Thanks Watchdogb ( talk) 22:59, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
The article in question is Ranjan Wijeratne. Watchdogb ( talk) 23:06, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
I looked, and the category still seems useless to me. Adding a bunch of pages to the category to make it survive a CfD does not really solve this problem, especially when several of these things (e.g. "victims of radiological poisoning"? Jose Padilla??) don't really belong to the category at all. Anyway I'm not going to put up a fight about it since others want to keep the category, but it seems like a page topic to me, not a category. csloat ( talk) 21:16, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi. Is MySpace an acceptable source for some non-controversial aspect of a BLP, like where they went to college? I know that generally it should not be used when a given MS page cannot be verified as the actual, official page of the author, but if the page contains personal photos that do not appear to be available to the general public or on Google, would that not indicate that it is the actual page belonging to that person? Also if this site gives the page as the official one of a cast member of The Real World or Road Rules, is it considered credible enough? Thanks. Nightscream ( talk) 06:01, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Template:Personality rights. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. howcheng { chat} 17:37, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi. We communicated about category reform last month after you closed this cfd.
We've now moved forward with this on the Opera Project. I wonder if you can help us? There over 1,000 articles involved and I'm assuming you have the skills/machinery (AWB?) to process them.
Most opera singer articles are now in the following top level cats (numbers in parentheses):
We'd like to move the articles to specific 'operatic cats' - in line with Opera Project guidelines/ discussions - as follows:
About 95 percent of the articles in the top level cats like Category:sopranos etc. are operatic - the others are a mixture of pop, folk, oratorio and other classical etc. I propose to weed these exceptions out by hand after the move and cat them appropriately. I know the opera singer articles quite well so this should not be too difficult.
What do you think? Is this a big bore, or is the move something you might be able to help us with?-- Kleinzach ( talk) 03:37, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I've been away - hence my slow response - but it all looks great, no problems. I hope you didn't have to do any of it without AWB. Best. -- Kleinzach ( talk) 12:49, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks in advance : ) - jc37 16:24, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
I've done a fair amount of structuring and linkifying, and just general cleanup of text of both pages. Curious as to what you think. - jc37 18:05, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Good work! ... discospinster talk 03:30, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Received notice of your deletion nomination for this template and courses of action available to me. Accordingly, I have removed the {{deprecated}} tag pending discussion, and posted my objection at Wikipedia_talk:Deprecated_and_orphaned_templates#Objections. I would appreciate your further thoughts, as well as others. Thank you for the courtesy of a heads-up. ¥ Jacky Tar 05:50, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
I note that you changed the category for Max Meili from "tenors" to "operatic tenors," together with an admonition to "report mistakes here." I'm not sure that the change is a "mistake," exactly; he did participate in some opera performances, as far as I can tell mostly of Monteverdi's L'Orfeo, although they included creating a role in one contemporary work. Thus, when putting the article together I reasoned that he fell within the scope of the opera project, however tangentially. Nonetheless, he was an early music specialist, and as such fundamentally much more of a concert than an operatic singer. I'll freely admit that choosing categories is probably the thing I do worst on Wikipedia--I invariably seem to miss one or more or to append something inappropriate, and just trying to navigate the various lists of available categories always seems to leave me tied up in mental knots--but I'm wondering if, in this case, the change might call for a second look? My apologies for making bother! [PS, added as an edit: if you haven't heard him and can play 78s, I'd strongly recommend searching out the Victor set of lute songs; categories aside, I think he had one of the loveliest lyric tenor voices of his day.] Drhoehl ( talk) 23:40, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Black Falcon...You are invited to discuss a guideline for the naming and organization of user categories that involve media and genres. - LA @ 10:05, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Can you kindly look into the privacy concerns in this update by User:Bodhi dhana as well as WP:NPA on line item 1. Thanks Taprobanus ( talk) 21:11, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
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Can a cool admin help a guy out? I want to add one sentence to the world of Wikipedia. But I can't. The sentence is factual, provable, reliable (I chose the New York Times version.)
Circumcision may decrease a man's risk of getting HIV but it may also INCREASE a man's risk of getting herpes and chlamydia. (and some doctors even say other STD's too but I won't get into that and I wouldn't put caps on INCREASE.)
The article on circumcision mentions the term HIV probably 100 times (I'm not joking) and mentions "herpes" or "chlamydia" not Once. Click on the article. You tell me if it's an article on the procedure called circumcision or a pro-circumcision propaganda pamphlet.
Can a cool admin stop two guys named Avraham and Jakew (the site's dictators) from deleting my one sentence I want to add? Or possibly get new Admins to take over this article, which has fallen way below Wikipedia standards.
here's the New York Times piece... http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9C07E4D91F3AF931A35757C0A961958260&fta=y
I used to love Wikipedia until I went to add a sentence, you know? Well, thanks. 70.114.38.167 ( talk) 06:55, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Your reversion is fine with me. I'll let you deal with the template depending on how trends at UCFD turn out. Maybe have a parameter for enabling the wording to add to categories that have established collaborative intent.
Regarding your points, AFAIK language cats do not use this template. Your 'artificial legitimacy' worry should be minimal because people have always had the opportunity to edit their categories to talk about collaboration, yet the only time they bring it up is at UCFD. – Pomte 09:14, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
I don't know if i'm asking this right, but where can you get those nifty userboxes to cheer up my profile page? Puffz0r ( talk) 22:25, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
This whole cat and all it's subcats could probably be nominated due to being essentially single article cats. (By comparison, radio talk shows are not likely to have anywhere near the number of articles that a television series has.) The parent cat "Radio" on the other hand is way too vague as it is. Is it about radio broadcasts? radio technology? Audio broadcasts of any kind? Public radio? Ham radio? etc etc.
So why am I mentioning this to you? Because (as I'm currently tool-less) I'm hoping that you'll tag the cats and make the nom (I'll be happy to comment in the nom after : ) - jc37 07:21, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
These types of categories do not foster encyclopedic collaboration, since merely listening to a radio station implies neither an above-average desire nor ability to contribute encyclopedic content about it. See related precedents here, here and here.
Thanks a lot, I was assuming that since the creator of the category was simply adding the category to people, I was accidentally thinking that meant user category, but now I understand it was the actual User: wikipedian's category, and thus it's more like a "biography" category. Thanks for moving it for me! ^^ — talk § _Arsenic99_ 17:19, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I think you found the appropriate wording. thanks., DGG ( talk) 21:19, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
You were part of the discussion of the ucfd of Category:Wikipedians interested in books. I have reopened the discussion. If you wish to particpate in this second discussion, it can be found here. - LA @ 23:50, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
There is a thread on WP:AN whioch concerns your actions, it is at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Improper_archiving_of_a_user_category_for_discussion. DuncanHill ( talk) 15:46, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
You may or may not have noticed that recently I dropped notes on several talk pages suggesting this. I mean and meant no "slight" to you or anyone else by not suggesting you. (Not that you feel/felt this way, but not sure how else to put it : )
I'm just not sure that you (or VegaDark, or me, for that matter), would be "electable" at this time, considering closing, or being in, some of the more contentious discussions of late. However, that said, I'd be happy to be shown I was incorrect, and would obviously support either of you.
Anyway, I hope you're having a great day : ) - jc37 18:56, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
On your article on Andrew Moravcsik, you cite an article by him supposedly found in the Journal of Common Market Studies 1993, Vol. 31 Issue 4, p. 447. I have this journal right in front of me, but it is not by Moravcsik, as seen below:
Clearly, the citation you mentioned is incorrect. The above is from the ebscohost database. If you have a subscription, feel free to check it. Could you please check your source and correct it? Thanks. HJV ( talk) 03:04, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for clarifying! LB22 (talk to me!) Email me! 19:48, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
I had the same thought you had regarding User:Thomboykt's edit at WP:PROD]]. The article appears to be Savannah Outen. He made the very same comment (as he made at PROD) in the article. Another editor deleted it as out of place. I copied the comment and pasted it on Talk:Savannah Outen. Sbowers3 ( talk) 21:51, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
I must say that I'm amused by seeing my second job lumped in with "people who play UNO." Oh well, my fault for not watch-listing it I guess. I never watch-list cat's I think that no one in their right mind would waste the community's time trying to get deleted, but the killjoys of the world never fail. -- Kendrick7 talk 23:21, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Hello black falcon,
I am quite old user of wikipedia but participating in a talk is quite new for me so , i realy appologise for putting my request on policy page, couldn't realy understand, hope You know what i mean?
But I wants to say same thing which i wrote there and should i say that again. ok. I read article "Terrorism" to find out, where world stand to define terrorism.But it wasnt quite good experience, as a Pakistani, I know and i focus more about positive side and living in pakistan in such society where you see world as biased (which actualy not, world is not biase to pakistan). But using Pakistan's name as a state sponsoring terrorism is not american,british or any european methodology. All these countries have appreciated steps and struggles which pakistan is doing to tackle terrorism. Please remember that pakistan is the country which have given maximum sacrifices against terrorism. Wikipedia is universal source of education and millions of pakistani students get help from this source for their educational and refrence purposes. and again I would like to say that palacing Pakistan as a state sponsoring terrorism is quite indian methodology and wikipedia should not be part of this bias. Indians are right to call pakistan a state sponsoring terrorism,perhaps terrorist for them are freedom fighters for kashmiris. For millions of kashmiris, presence of indian army is a symbol of terrorism. All those groups which have been describe as terrorist groups and sponsord by pakistan are actually kashmiri groups. Managed and supported by native kashmiri people. As Pakistan claim kashmir a part of their nation, we are more then happy to support our kashmiri fellows morally. We are with them and have been with them at every world forum.Uniter nation or european union, everywhere pakistan protest against Indian state military terrorism in Kashmir.
Wikipedia is here not to chose a side, but to provide a neutral educational platform for world and I beleive it is against its fundamental policy(neutralism) and politically motivate if they keep Pakistan magnifying in their article of "Terrorism". and certainly it makes this belief very strong in young generation that WORLD IS BIASED TO PAKISTAN. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mfz21 ( talk • contribs) 00:49, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
You actually saw the discussion before me, because I normally don't view Deletion Review, but yet another one of the dialect languages I nominated for deletion is up for DRV. I think that that whole section is becoming more trouble than its worth, and it's going to get worse if the nationalist people ever discover it and start pushing their propaganda. Horologium (talk) 01:12, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
The article Sideshow Cinema which you worked extensively on sometime ago is up for deletion, I'd thought I'd let you know. Plank ( talk) 16:38, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
I have a question about how the deprecating/speedy deletion of templates works. Looking at the history, I'm thinking that you'd know the answer ... Angus McLellan (Talk) 11:53, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi,
Regarding this edit that you made, I want to bring to your attention the guidance that, in most cases, " an article should not be in both a category and its subcategory".
Cheers, Black Falcon ( Talk) 02:46, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for promptly reverting my edits to Template:Cfd-notify. I've no idea how I ended up editing that page rather than the user talk page where I was trying to leave the message. I could see the template wasn't working, but I was called away before I could look into it. Strangely, the message on the user page now looks fine. Maybe I had a browser problem. Anyway, thanks again. - Fayenatic (talk) 07:28, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi,
I noticed that you created the article Mamadou Diabaté. I was thinking of nominating the article to be featured on the DYK section of the main page ... however, I noticed one discrepancy: the third and fourth references are clearly distinct in terms of text, but link to the same website. Is this a copy-pasting error?
By the way, the DYK "hook" I had in mind is:
...that Mamadou Diabaté, a Malian kora player, was nominated for a Grammy Award in 2005, but lost to his cousin Toumani Diabaté?
What do you think?
Thanks, Black Falcon ( Talk) 08:04, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Ok, I am getting kind of tired of these administrators playing one-sided all the time. First they claim that they want to be fair and stop vandalism from both Azeris, Armenians, and Turks, but then they always seem to make decisions in favor of Armenian nationalists. Why? You remember the weak decision on Category:Armenian Genocide deniers and now when I create a category similar Category:Armenian Genocide Propagandists to that since they allowed that, they threaten to block me and remove all the pages? Why am I always discriminated against? Is there a lot of administrators that are Armenian or what? — talk § _Arsenic99_ 06:27, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Category:Association of Theological Schools in the United States and Canada. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. GreenJoe 14:17, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
-- Royalbroil 13:53, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
I apologize; I'm in grad school and get quite busy some time. I was unable to respond to your question in a timely manner. But to answer it now:
Yes, Jèrriais has a distinct orthography, which has been standardized for over 40 years. The Norman "languages" have 3 different Orthographies: that of Jèrriais, that of Dgèrnésiais, and that of the Continental Norman dialects. Sèrtchais, which is almost dead, has no standard form, but tends to copy Jèrriais/French in practice (though a simple phonetic form has been proposed). Written Jèrriais is probably readily comprehensible to speakers of other Norman dialects. Certainly, I expect Dgèrnésiais speakers would have little problem with it (the two orthographies are similar). On the same note, I can read Dgèrnésiais almost as well as I can read Jèrriais (my biggest problem is vocab differences). However, as a Jèrriais learner, I struggle immensely with understanding written Continental Norman, as the Continental Orthography (and, honestly, frequently Continental pronunciation) is quite different from Jèrriais. Compare ouaîsiaux (Jèr) to ouésiôs (Cont) or j'va (Jèr) to quéva (Cont). Now, as I'm not a native (or even fluent) speaker, this may be more difficult for me than for a native. However, I have an awful lot of linguistic backround that should make this easier for me than for most people. I expect natives would struggle with that orthographic difference. For what it's worth, the Norman Wikipedia does include some important things in both Continental Norman (specifically the Cotentinais dialect) as well as Jèrriais. There is even an article (clioche/clloche) in both dialects (I expect this was an experiment. It seems to have worked fine, but I have not noticed a like duplication since). Anyway, does this answer your question?
The Jade Knight ( talk) 05:27, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
--Cheers Victuallers ( talk) 16:58, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
HI. I don't know whether you know but Liberia is one of the least developed countries on wikipedia. Any articles particularly one with decent content is a blessing. I've been adding infobox maps to Category:Cities, towns and villages in Liberia as with sorting out most of the African countries and making the locator maps, but most of them are not even one line stubs -on the country;s major towns too!!! Is it possible you could work at expanding any of them up to an acceptable level? And also give me some sources in which I could also help at improving them. Keep up the good work ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:58, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Black Falcon, there seems to be some confusion on the above article. I believe that users do not understand WP:SYNT and therefore they are using material published in different reliable sources to synthesis and advance a position that is not claimed in any of the given citations. Can you please comment on the talk page of this article when you have time. Thanks !
Can you also please take a look here. A user keeps adding categories related to "Terrorist" or "Terrorism" to a couple of articles. However, these cats are not backed by RS. I have reverted the changes but do not plan on reverting anymore until someone can comment on this situation. The two articles in question are Ranjan Wijeratne and Lakshman Algama. Take your time Watchdogb ( talk) 16:57, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
-- BorgQueen ( talk) 11:26, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
I'd like you to look over something I wrote ( here). I'm not asking if you agree, I'm asking if you would read for accuracy. Thanks in advance. - jc37 04:21, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
for your explanation! Stephanvaningen ( talk) 21:41, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Black Falcon...I have requested in several of the UCFDs a suspension of all UCFDs on Wikipedians by media/genre interest until they can be reorganized. Since you seem interested in these categories, I would like to know your opinion, in any of the discussions with my request. Please take a look. Thank you. - LA @ 08:47, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Can you kindly help me to move Sri Lanka Tamil people to Sri Lankan Tamil people over redirect please. Thanks Taprobanus ( talk) 12:59, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
To quote you:
I'd like to offer my thoughts on the question you posted in the edit summary of this edit: how else does one establish notability?
Notability is a characteristic of topics, not of articles. If the article on Politics was poorly-written and failed to cite any reliable sources, that would not be an indication that the topic is not notable. To put it more succinctly, the current state of an article has no relevance to the notability of its topic.
Thanks for organising that section ... its had grown too long and lumped together diverse discussions under one general heading. Black Falcon ( Talk) 17:28, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
I just finished adding the list of discussions (including DRVs) for April, including numerous additions to the "Unsorted" section. I'll do the same for March after a short break. By the way, I've included links to a number of "depopulate" discussions; feel free to remove them if you think that they don't belong on the list. Black Falcon ( Talk) 21:04, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
If you have time, could you please offer your thoughts regarding the progress of the discussion here (specifically, your thoughts on the new category and what to do with the userboxes). Thanks, Black Falcon ( Talk) 19:06, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
What do you think should be done with Category:Contributors to other Wikipedias by language? It was tagged as part of the March 15 nomination, but no comment was directed at the parent category's title and I myself wasn't really set on any name. Another nomination, perhaps? Black Falcon ( Talk) 20:17, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Fixed it! The problem was caused because the image= and author_abbrev_zoo= parameters weren't set to have default values. The function that was supposed to check if they existed (#if:) was working perfectly; unfortunately, though, instead of seeing a blank parameter, it saw {{{image}}}, so assumed that there was something useful to print out. I've checked, and both fixes seem to be working. Hersfold ( t/ a/ c) 02:04, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Unfortunately, no; that's part of the reason why the template gets substed. Unless the header is hard-coded to the page it's on, it's going to lead back to wherever it is hard-coded (if that makes any sense). I can add in some code that makes a big red ugly warning message pop up when there's no subst:, but there's no way to fix the edit link without removing it entirely. Hersfold ( t/ a/ c) 05:22, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
This user named BlueBoy69, blocked me for 24 hours, for simply talking about known and verified terrorist organizations [1]. Claiming that I violated my "block", when I posted NOTHING about the Armenian Genocide nor about Azerbaijani-Armenian conflicts. I don't see why the heck can these guys have so much authority to stalk me and block me, when I didn't do anything wrong. I cited my information and covered material that verified sources discussed. In addition, I have been posting many cited information to a wide variety of articles, fighting vandalism, and not being involved in any edit wars or violating any policies. Why am I being punished like this? I mean this means, anything that doesn't agree with the POINT OF VIEW of people with admin powers, is wrong, and the wikipedia policies never apply to wikipedia. Please help me on this issue. — talk § _Arsenic99_ 07:55, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
So, I thought about doing a P2 on Portal:Lotus Connections, but I am very unfamiliar with the criteria regarding portals. You'll note in my nomination that I was very timid about even MfDing it :)
Question about P2: I considered it, but my thinking was that since the portal is very new, one could argue that it is "under construction". I imagine a lot of quality portals started out in a condition that would have failed P2 (of course, maybe that assumption is incorrect as well). So, is P2 valid even if the portal is very new, if the odds of the portal ever developing enough content to satisfy the P2 criteria are very slim? Or, is P2 so strict that even if a portal might one day meet the minimum size requirements, if it doesn't now then I can flag it with P2?
(Note I asked the same question on the MfD discussion page, but I thought people might not have it on their watchlist, so I decided to copy it over and ask you directly. Thanks!) -- Jaysweet ( talk) 16:24, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
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For your well-reasoned closure of the very contentious "...of color" CFDs. Otto4711 ( talk) 18:59, 26 March 2008 (UTC) |
I've redirected it to my userpage. End of story. Wilhelmina Will ( talk) 21:24, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, that actually works a lot better. ViperSnake151 23:58, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps the recent "speedy close" for Wikipedians in ___ should have been changed to the Wikipedians in ___ metropolitan area, since other cats are doing that. Just a thought. — Scouter Sig 03:34, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
I disagree with your position of removing Kipelov and Master from Category:Aria (band). This is a commonplace in Wikipedia to include side projects and split-off bands into such categories. Just like Lionheart (band) and Gogmagog (band) in category: Iron Maiden, Feeling B in Category:Rammstein, and so on, and so on. Garret Beaumain ( talk) 15:56, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Black Falcon, a uses has been adding Categories that are not backed by WP:RS. This violated Category Guideline #8. Is my understanding in this wrong ? Please let me know. Thanks Watchdogb ( talk) 22:59, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
The article in question is Ranjan Wijeratne. Watchdogb ( talk) 23:06, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
I looked, and the category still seems useless to me. Adding a bunch of pages to the category to make it survive a CfD does not really solve this problem, especially when several of these things (e.g. "victims of radiological poisoning"? Jose Padilla??) don't really belong to the category at all. Anyway I'm not going to put up a fight about it since others want to keep the category, but it seems like a page topic to me, not a category. csloat ( talk) 21:16, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi. Is MySpace an acceptable source for some non-controversial aspect of a BLP, like where they went to college? I know that generally it should not be used when a given MS page cannot be verified as the actual, official page of the author, but if the page contains personal photos that do not appear to be available to the general public or on Google, would that not indicate that it is the actual page belonging to that person? Also if this site gives the page as the official one of a cast member of The Real World or Road Rules, is it considered credible enough? Thanks. Nightscream ( talk) 06:01, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Template:Personality rights. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. howcheng { chat} 17:37, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi. We communicated about category reform last month after you closed this cfd.
We've now moved forward with this on the Opera Project. I wonder if you can help us? There over 1,000 articles involved and I'm assuming you have the skills/machinery (AWB?) to process them.
Most opera singer articles are now in the following top level cats (numbers in parentheses):
We'd like to move the articles to specific 'operatic cats' - in line with Opera Project guidelines/ discussions - as follows:
About 95 percent of the articles in the top level cats like Category:sopranos etc. are operatic - the others are a mixture of pop, folk, oratorio and other classical etc. I propose to weed these exceptions out by hand after the move and cat them appropriately. I know the opera singer articles quite well so this should not be too difficult.
What do you think? Is this a big bore, or is the move something you might be able to help us with?-- Kleinzach ( talk) 03:37, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I've been away - hence my slow response - but it all looks great, no problems. I hope you didn't have to do any of it without AWB. Best. -- Kleinzach ( talk) 12:49, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks in advance : ) - jc37 16:24, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
I've done a fair amount of structuring and linkifying, and just general cleanup of text of both pages. Curious as to what you think. - jc37 18:05, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Good work! ... discospinster talk 03:30, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Received notice of your deletion nomination for this template and courses of action available to me. Accordingly, I have removed the {{deprecated}} tag pending discussion, and posted my objection at Wikipedia_talk:Deprecated_and_orphaned_templates#Objections. I would appreciate your further thoughts, as well as others. Thank you for the courtesy of a heads-up. ¥ Jacky Tar 05:50, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
I note that you changed the category for Max Meili from "tenors" to "operatic tenors," together with an admonition to "report mistakes here." I'm not sure that the change is a "mistake," exactly; he did participate in some opera performances, as far as I can tell mostly of Monteverdi's L'Orfeo, although they included creating a role in one contemporary work. Thus, when putting the article together I reasoned that he fell within the scope of the opera project, however tangentially. Nonetheless, he was an early music specialist, and as such fundamentally much more of a concert than an operatic singer. I'll freely admit that choosing categories is probably the thing I do worst on Wikipedia--I invariably seem to miss one or more or to append something inappropriate, and just trying to navigate the various lists of available categories always seems to leave me tied up in mental knots--but I'm wondering if, in this case, the change might call for a second look? My apologies for making bother! [PS, added as an edit: if you haven't heard him and can play 78s, I'd strongly recommend searching out the Victor set of lute songs; categories aside, I think he had one of the loveliest lyric tenor voices of his day.] Drhoehl ( talk) 23:40, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Black Falcon...You are invited to discuss a guideline for the naming and organization of user categories that involve media and genres. - LA @ 10:05, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Can you kindly look into the privacy concerns in this update by User:Bodhi dhana as well as WP:NPA on line item 1. Thanks Taprobanus ( talk) 21:11, 7 April 2008 (UTC)