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Please stay off my talk page. Thanks. Gandydancer ( talk) 03:30, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
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You should really ask before making meaningful changes to somebody's user page. That is considered quite intrusive in the wiki realm. El_C 00:49, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
On a previous account you used what looks like a template to announce an RFC at WP:45. See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Donald_Trump#User:Pretzel_butterfly_has_an_RFC. What template or bot did you use for this? I've tried adding the WikiProject to the [[rfc]] template with no luck. Thanks! YallAHalla talk 21:44, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
{{
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Benevolent human (
talk) 00:37, 29 January 2021 (UTC)In case you're no longer connected to, communicative with or controlling of your former alter ego, just a friendly notice that I noticed a butterfly fighting a hate machine with respect and dignity, and made a statement to the effect of absolutely loving how it goes, futile or not (which I hereby implicitly reiterate). Best of luck in your future endeavours, as well. Politeness can solve all kinds of problems in this neverending textbook, but only if we treat it as honestly hard work! InedibleHulk ( talk) 15:26, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
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You've just entered a mountain of shit on the Ilhan Omar page but I appreciate your courage Toa Nidhiki05 18:28, 31 May 2021 (UTC) |
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I could see why you would think that, I appreciate your outlining your thought process. Mine is that dual loyalty implies people doing nice things for Israel because they have dual loyalty for Israel, but the US has done a lot of nice things for Israel that have nothing to do with the Palestinians (such as massive, massive economic aid,Benevolent human ( talk) 17:50, 3 June 2021 (UTC)recognition of the Golan Heights annexation, Operation Nickel Grass, some of the Iran stuff, etc.)
It's Pastures of Eden [1]. NightHeron ( talk) 14:53, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
Do not modify my comments again. If you feel Ive made a personal attack then report it, Mr 296 edits with this obviously first time account. nableezy - 21:31, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
Hi! I appreciate the fact that you generally choose your words carefully and maintain a high level of respect and civility even during heated debates. In light of that, I was disappointed that you twice repeated "pattern of behavior" in reference to Ilhan Omar. She deserves the same respectful language that you use about Wikipedia editors you disagree with. In our culture, word choices for women politicians are often less respectful than for male politicians. (Minor example: President Biden is typically called "President Biden" whereas Vice-President Harris is frequently called "Kamala" and almost never "Vice-President Harris"; and in earlier elections it was Trump, Pence, Obama, and Biden -- but Hillary.) NightHeron ( talk) 12:35, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
Hi, I saw that you recently reverted an edit by made by a bot which was removing junk added by an IP editor. Later, your revert was re-reverted (so that junk added by IP editor was removed). Every time you carry out an edit suggested by a bot, please take a second to actually validate that your edit is reasonable. Thank you, Anton.bersh ( talk) 17:59, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
You started two RfCs in less than 2 weeks in violation of ARBPIA. The first time the violation was pointed out in the closing summary. The second time you obviously knew about the ARBPIA restriction, which is stated in the same section 5.B.1 that you linked to in your RfC statement: This exception does not apply to other internal project discussions such as AfDs, WikiProjects, RfCs, noticeboard discussions, etc.
Repeated violation of restrictions could be regarded as disruptive and result in sanctions. Please be more careful in the future. Thank you.
NightHeron (
talk) 09:07, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
By the way, reading the second "warning" at the top of Talk:Ilhan Omar, it seems clear that ARBPIA applies to material in the article relating to Omar's statements on Israel. NightHeron ( talk) 14:31, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
HI Benevolent human, is this the conversation that explains your addressing the RfC procedural issues? It seems like NightHeron has pointed out again that you shouldn't be opening RfC's related to the Israel-Palestine conflict. Is there conversation elsewhere where editors agree you have standing to open an RfC on the subject? Firefangledfeathers ( talk) 21:40, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
I honestly don't know how the new user can be expected to understand why you call their addition at List of Nigerians "not constructive"; it was obviously done in good faith. Please explain where needed, both in edit summary and in your note on their page, instead of treating the user like a vandal by posting a templated warning with Twinkle. Be benevolent. Thank you. Bishonen | tålk 21:22, 12 June 2021 (UTC).
Your selective notifications for the RfC at Talk:Ilhan Omar are a violation of WP:Canvassing. Please read this policy carefully and follow it exactly in the future. Any further examples of selective notification will be reported to admins for consideration of sanctions. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 02:59, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
WP:TALK#REVISE: you may revise your own talk page comments, So long as no one has yet responded to your comment.
Your RfC wording has been responded to and cannot be modified. Otherwise, all of those responses to it make no sense. –
Muboshgu (
talk) 17:11, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
I don't see why you responded to my comment at ArbCom by referring me to a comment by TrueQuantum saying that they were insulted that I have no right to comment
because they had fewer than 500 edits. The purpose of extended-confirmed restrictions is not to insult anyone or to imply that opinions of new users are less valid than opinions of experienced users. Rather EC-restricted pages or topics are ones that are highly contentious and have at times been the targets of disruption. The main purpose is to prevent attempts to skew the discussion through off-wiki canvassing, sock-puppets, sudden appearance of special-purpose accounts and IPs who edit only on one topic, and other efforts to subvert the process. Another possible reason for EC-restrictions is that relatively inexperienced editors often do not understand certain Wikipedia policies and proceed to violate them. This isn't usually a big deal if they're editing pages that are not very controversial, like the page about their hometown or favorite football team. But if they enter a contentious area and stubbornly insist that they're right long after it's clear that the consensus of editors is against them, that causes a time sink for other editors and quite often sanctions against the new editor.
NightHeron (
talk) 21:02, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
Did you edit as 108.45.91.166? Did you have a registered account before then? TFD ( talk) 11:00, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
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Please stay off my talk page. Thanks. Gandydancer ( talk) 03:30, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
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You should really ask before making meaningful changes to somebody's user page. That is considered quite intrusive in the wiki realm. El_C 00:49, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
On a previous account you used what looks like a template to announce an RFC at WP:45. See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Donald_Trump#User:Pretzel_butterfly_has_an_RFC. What template or bot did you use for this? I've tried adding the WikiProject to the [[rfc]] template with no luck. Thanks! YallAHalla talk 21:44, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
{{
rfc notice}}
.
Benevolent human (
talk) 00:37, 29 January 2021 (UTC)In case you're no longer connected to, communicative with or controlling of your former alter ego, just a friendly notice that I noticed a butterfly fighting a hate machine with respect and dignity, and made a statement to the effect of absolutely loving how it goes, futile or not (which I hereby implicitly reiterate). Best of luck in your future endeavours, as well. Politeness can solve all kinds of problems in this neverending textbook, but only if we treat it as honestly hard work! InedibleHulk ( talk) 15:26, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar | ||
This barnstar is awarded to Benevolent human for copy edits totaling over 8,000 words (including bonus and rollover words) during the GOCE January 2021 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg ( talk) 19:02, 15 February 2021 (UTC) |
The Minor Barnstar | ||
This barnstar is awarded to Benevolent human for copy edits totaling between 1 and 3,999 words (including bonus and rollover words) during the GOCE March 2021 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Mini apolis 21:12, 5 April 2021 (UTC) |
The Special Barnstar | |
You've just entered a mountain of shit on the Ilhan Omar page but I appreciate your courage Toa Nidhiki05 18:28, 31 May 2021 (UTC) |
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I could see why you would think that, I appreciate your outlining your thought process. Mine is that dual loyalty implies people doing nice things for Israel because they have dual loyalty for Israel, but the US has done a lot of nice things for Israel that have nothing to do with the Palestinians (such as massive, massive economic aid,Benevolent human ( talk) 17:50, 3 June 2021 (UTC)recognition of the Golan Heights annexation, Operation Nickel Grass, some of the Iran stuff, etc.)
It's Pastures of Eden [1]. NightHeron ( talk) 14:53, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
Do not modify my comments again. If you feel Ive made a personal attack then report it, Mr 296 edits with this obviously first time account. nableezy - 21:31, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
Hi! I appreciate the fact that you generally choose your words carefully and maintain a high level of respect and civility even during heated debates. In light of that, I was disappointed that you twice repeated "pattern of behavior" in reference to Ilhan Omar. She deserves the same respectful language that you use about Wikipedia editors you disagree with. In our culture, word choices for women politicians are often less respectful than for male politicians. (Minor example: President Biden is typically called "President Biden" whereas Vice-President Harris is frequently called "Kamala" and almost never "Vice-President Harris"; and in earlier elections it was Trump, Pence, Obama, and Biden -- but Hillary.) NightHeron ( talk) 12:35, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
Hi, I saw that you recently reverted an edit by made by a bot which was removing junk added by an IP editor. Later, your revert was re-reverted (so that junk added by IP editor was removed). Every time you carry out an edit suggested by a bot, please take a second to actually validate that your edit is reasonable. Thank you, Anton.bersh ( talk) 17:59, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
You started two RfCs in less than 2 weeks in violation of ARBPIA. The first time the violation was pointed out in the closing summary. The second time you obviously knew about the ARBPIA restriction, which is stated in the same section 5.B.1 that you linked to in your RfC statement: This exception does not apply to other internal project discussions such as AfDs, WikiProjects, RfCs, noticeboard discussions, etc.
Repeated violation of restrictions could be regarded as disruptive and result in sanctions. Please be more careful in the future. Thank you.
NightHeron (
talk) 09:07, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
By the way, reading the second "warning" at the top of Talk:Ilhan Omar, it seems clear that ARBPIA applies to material in the article relating to Omar's statements on Israel. NightHeron ( talk) 14:31, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
HI Benevolent human, is this the conversation that explains your addressing the RfC procedural issues? It seems like NightHeron has pointed out again that you shouldn't be opening RfC's related to the Israel-Palestine conflict. Is there conversation elsewhere where editors agree you have standing to open an RfC on the subject? Firefangledfeathers ( talk) 21:40, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
I honestly don't know how the new user can be expected to understand why you call their addition at List of Nigerians "not constructive"; it was obviously done in good faith. Please explain where needed, both in edit summary and in your note on their page, instead of treating the user like a vandal by posting a templated warning with Twinkle. Be benevolent. Thank you. Bishonen | tålk 21:22, 12 June 2021 (UTC).
Your selective notifications for the RfC at Talk:Ilhan Omar are a violation of WP:Canvassing. Please read this policy carefully and follow it exactly in the future. Any further examples of selective notification will be reported to admins for consideration of sanctions. Beyond My Ken ( talk) 02:59, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
WP:TALK#REVISE: you may revise your own talk page comments, So long as no one has yet responded to your comment.
Your RfC wording has been responded to and cannot be modified. Otherwise, all of those responses to it make no sense. –
Muboshgu (
talk) 17:11, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
I don't see why you responded to my comment at ArbCom by referring me to a comment by TrueQuantum saying that they were insulted that I have no right to comment
because they had fewer than 500 edits. The purpose of extended-confirmed restrictions is not to insult anyone or to imply that opinions of new users are less valid than opinions of experienced users. Rather EC-restricted pages or topics are ones that are highly contentious and have at times been the targets of disruption. The main purpose is to prevent attempts to skew the discussion through off-wiki canvassing, sock-puppets, sudden appearance of special-purpose accounts and IPs who edit only on one topic, and other efforts to subvert the process. Another possible reason for EC-restrictions is that relatively inexperienced editors often do not understand certain Wikipedia policies and proceed to violate them. This isn't usually a big deal if they're editing pages that are not very controversial, like the page about their hometown or favorite football team. But if they enter a contentious area and stubbornly insist that they're right long after it's clear that the consensus of editors is against them, that causes a time sink for other editors and quite often sanctions against the new editor.
NightHeron (
talk) 21:02, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
Did you edit as 108.45.91.166? Did you have a registered account before then? TFD ( talk) 11:00, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
The clarification request you filed regarding the case Palestine-Israel articles 4 has been closed and archived. You may view a permalink of the clarification request here. For the Arbitration Committee, Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 15:27, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
Guild of Copy Editors June 2021 Newsletter
Hello and welcome to the June newsletter, our first newsletter of 2021, which is a brief update of Guild activities since December 2020. To unsubscribe, follow the link at the bottom of this box. Current events
Election time: Voting in our mid-year Election of Coordinators opened on 16 June and will conclude at the end of the month. GOCE coordinators normally serve a six-month term and are elected on an approval basis. Have your say and show support here. June Blitz: Our June copy-editing blitz is underway and will conclude on 26 June. Drive and blitz reports
January Drive: 28 editors completed 324 copy edits totalling 714,902 words. At the end of the drive, the backlog had reached a record low of 52 articles. ( full results) February Blitz: 15 editors completed 48 copy edits totalling 142,788 words. ( full results) March Drive: 29 editors completed 215 copy edits totalling 407,736 words. ( full results) April Blitz: 12 editors completed 23 copy edits totalling 56,574 words. ( full results) May Drive: 29 editors completed 356 copy edits totalling 479,013 words. ( full results) Other news
Progress report: as of 26 June, GOCE participants had completed 343 Requests since 1 January. The backlog has fluctuated but remained in control, with a low of 52 tagged articles at the end of January and a high of 620 articles in mid-June. Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Jonesey95, Dhtwiki, Miniapolis, Tenryuu and Twofingered Typist, and from member Reidgreg. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from
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