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here I am again with yet another non-communicative editor, and this one seems prone to tendenitious (sp?) editing: User talk:Britneysaints. You'll have to look at the page history to see the comments that have been left for him, since he removes them with dismissive remarks in the edit summaries, but has yet to discuss anything, either on his talk page or on the article talk pages he's active on. If you have a chance, and you think it's appropriate, could you put the Barneca Please Talk template on his talk page? Many thanks. Ed Fitzgerald t / c 02:55, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Barneca. I see that you've been dealing with Omegacommand and his socks. I think that BarackBlows ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and 76.110.175.48 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) are him too. Both are blocked at the moment: BarackBlows indefinitely, the IP for one week. If you agree with my assessment that this is the same individual, we can block both 76.110.175.48 and 76.110.167.164 (which you blocked earlier) for a longer duration. — Josiah Rowe ( talk • contribs) 06:30, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for stepping up to help someone who was having a problem. This was very nice to see.( BaldKojak ( talk) 04:37, 2 November 2008 (UTC))
Apropos of a recent WP:AN/I thread, perhaps you weren't aware that admins may not leave the computer for more than 15 minutes at a time. We lost our cigarette breaks in the last contract renegotiation. You have to eat lunch at your computer and raise your hand for ArbCom's permission to use the bathroom. It's all an obvious interpretation of this finding.
Interestingly, ArbCom also "ruled" that you shouldn't criticize someone if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Strangely, despite the applicability of this ruling to >90% of WP:AN/I threads, I have yet to see anyone cite it.
Hmmm. I appear to have gotten up on the wrong side of the bed today. MastCell Talk 17:25, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
You just don't understand. I'm new to Wikipedia and I'm really a six year old. Simulation12 ( talk) 23:29, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
Barneca--again, THANK YOU. (I never realized that it could be physically difficult NOT to type something; I really had to sit on my hands to keep myself from responding on her talk page with "Little girl, put your mommy on the computer RIGHT NOW.") Gladys J Cortez 01:19, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Do you think you can delete this redirect that Simulation12 made to my sub-page? Elbutler ( talk) 12:06, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Would you mind if you copy the stuff I wrote in Elbutler's talkpage back into my own talk page? Simulation12 ( talk) 22:13, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Barneca, since you were so helpful in dealing with my last child editor, perchance you could take a look at this one too? Either I'm not as good an explainer of "tone" and "encyclopedic" as I ought to be, or someone isn't getting it. Either way, I could use a hand on this one. Thanks! Gladys J Cortez 07:31, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Man, these KIDS! Here's another one. "Don't block when you're involved" is getting to be REALLY difficult. So is "preventative not punitive"--though I could make a very convincing argument that if I blocked this little charmer all the way to Hell, it would prevent a)more bad edits; b)my head asploding. I'm sitting here muttering "ignore...DNFT...ignore...bitchsla..(oh, wait)...DNFT..." Man, self control just sucks sometimes. :) Gladys J Cortez 01:20, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
I didn't say he didn't have any friends he did, i was just saying sure thing as in talk about yourself all you want to, but yeah thanks anyway, Hairy Perry 16:39, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Oh its fine, but i really do appreciate it though, hey would ou mind if I put you on my User Page under People I'm Cool With? Hairy Perry 17:01, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Ok, well sometimes you get what you ask for/deserve. Yeah, I'll put you on there. Thanks, Hairy Perry 17:24, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
[1] LOL - thanks for that - I needed a bit of cheering up and that was tops! Pedro : Chat 23:41, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I have been in an edit dispute on the [[The Daily Telegraph (Australia)] page. However, the editor in question, Michellecrisp [2], refuses to discuss the issue on the principle that I am an anonymous i.p. [3]. This user has a prolific edit history [4], and does loads of good stuff, so she obviously is not just trolling. So I am just wondering what I can do, apart from just walking away. It just does not feel right to claim that no consensus was reached [5] when she refuses to discuss at all. I am at a loss really, and I am only messaging you to be an impartial judge. Cheers if you are interested. -- 58.172.251.46 ( talk) 06:07, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Why is he doing this, doesn't he know he is just going to keep getting blocked? Hairy Perry 15:09, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
I've already filed a checkuser on Apawk...if you have anything to add to it, i created a subpage for it if you have extra info I don't know about it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Hairy Perry 15:42, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Checkuser for Apawk Hairy Perry 15:47, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Yes go ahead and do your thing, thats the first time I have done one of those so I didn't know how to do that, but yeah go right ahead. Just want to get this dude down and out! No problem, Hairy Perry 16:04, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Good work. That is a great report, that would explain why mine looked so bad even though I followed all the instructions it told me to, but oh well as long as we can get him some how some way...I'll be happy. Thanks for throwing my name in there as soon, I don't know when, but soon I will be trying for an RFA it probably won't work but it will show me what I need to work on to get to be an admin. Thanks, Hairy Perry 16:31, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
In case you haven't seen it but i'm sure you have, the IP for UnrealSpiritX or Apawk...whatever his name is, has been blocked and it was confirmed of course as I knew it would be and I'm sure you did. Thanks for your great work with me on this, Hairy Perry 18:31, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
On Keeper's page you reference the Sununu/Shaheen race in NH and say you voted for Kang... Kang? Who is that? I try to keep up at least a little with politics in NH, but that isn't a name I'm familiar with... Avruch T 19:33, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Hey Barneca, I love what you just said. [6] "But this is Wikipedia, not Utopiapedia..". :-) AdjustShift ( talk) 15:12, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
I guess I should be more careful when reverting edits, sorry! I didn't realize it was an interwiki link. Hairy Perry 16:19, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
On my computer it referenced it fine so it wasn't my fault, so don't take the blame on me, ever heard of technical difficulties? Hairy Perry 16:35, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
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Dude, who are you to tell me not to edit anymore? Your not God and/or Jimbo Wales. I'm still learning so why not try being civil on a sort of-new comer. I'm just trying to learn and its people like you who make me not want to. I thought today was gonna be a good day on wiki cause i'm nearing 1,000 contribs but somebody has to mess that up I guess. I'm calm in all this by the way, but apparently new comers or sort of are not welcome here. Hairy Perry 16:54, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
No, I got upset cause you said "fixed your link that proves my point" and you said "C'mon HP" like I was retarded for not knowing that was the format. I've taken critxism before and I can take it again. But when somebody gets all on my case for not knowing something that makes me upset. Hairy Perry 17:21, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Dude, ok i'm not gonna argue with you anymore this has gone on long enough. Just be civil when people don't know stuff. I try to be as constructive as possible and i'm not a vandal or anything matter of fact i'm the exact opposite, I patrol and revert vandals. Please lets start over and be friends, Hi I'm HairyPerry, sorry for my mistakes, please forgive. Thank you, Hairy Perry 17:33, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Nice to meet you to, now can you give me something to read on the ref tagging, please. Thank you, Hairy Perry 17:41, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. Oh and by the way I just got my 1,000th contribution like 8 minutes ago, this is so cool, I am excited!!! Well yeah thanks, Hairy Perry 17:49, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
You are threatening blocking.
I ask that you consider what is good customer service and apply it to Wikipedia. Good customer service is trying to understand all viewpoints.
There is clearly concern about removing article talk page discussion. I am not the only one who says it. However, some practice a different approach. They criticize the person who is bringing it up. It is like if you bought spoiled milk at the store. The store clerk then says "you waited too long to return it" or, worse yet, you are a SPA (single item purchaser or single purpose account).
I say that the best way is for administrators to look at the problem and try to practice good customer service.
I am saying this for your personal benefit. Wikipedia is only a small part of life but personal skills that you learn here can help you in life. I hope you will not block me with the excuse "blocking because of a personal attack on me here". I am not attacking you but just giving you friendly advice on life. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.174.46.42 ( talk • contribs) actually, it was signed, but formatting error in previous section screwed up the signatures for a little bit. -- barneca ( talk) 16:51, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Do we have a WP:Guide to dealing with troll vandalism page lurking around somewhere? In particular, I caught this user earlier and blocked for three days...is there more to be done? Thanks! Frank | talk 17:41, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
There is some I.P. adress ( 24.111.205.163) who keeps adding real world info to a article that's about fictional characters: List of Balto characters. Elbutler ( talk) 00:59, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
I don't know if it was the best idea, IMHO, to block the user in this situation. It seemed like you were reneging on the "deal" made with the user. I'm saying that as having the (rather unfortunate) experience being a sport referee for many years. The only worse thing in making a questionable judgment call (in which I am not questioning in regards to AIV; I agreed on not blocking until the next offense) is reneging such a call as it makes people further question your judgment.
I mean, I'm glad the vandal is blocked, but I didn't feel it was the best call to renege on it. That's my take on it.
(P.S. It's probably not that big a deal; I am sure this vandal, IMHO, would have persisted and would have warranted a block anyways.) MuZemike ( talk) 08:13, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Hey Barneca. Sorry for another random question... but you're like the only admin I have any relationship with in any way on Wikipedia. So - I hope you don't mind being the guy I turn to for advice?
I noticed this ip when they made a - in my opinion - clearly vandalous edit on Helicopter. Though whoever reverted it was pretty tame on their webpage, I checked out their contribs, and they've got 3, and they're all vandalism spread over 2 articles. I've noticed it - now what? Is there a "next step"? They've only made 3 edits, but they've all been - apparently deliberately - unhelpful. Or should I just watch this ip until they've made - say - 15 bad edits? Thanks Petemyers ( talk) 19:16, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
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11:50, 18 November 2008 (UTC)Thanks for supporting my successful Rfa! Hope to work with you more in the future!-- Aervanath lives in the Orphanage 19:25, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Simulation12 has started again her disruptive edits, she removed the picture from seasickness again. I have reverted this edit. If she does it again, she's all yours for taking. Elbutler ( talk) 19:41, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Dear Barnaca Many thanks for protecting my entry from vandals. I deeply appreciate it. I am just learning my way around Wikipedia, but thoroughly enjoying it. thanks. (how do I award you one of those star things?) Michaelrosenblum ( talk) 23:57, 15 November 2008 (UTC)Michael Rosenblum
I'm picturing a speed limit sign with a big giant number 2 or 3 on it that says "Speed Limit Only 3 Active Drama Threads". It could be part of the AN/I edit message;)-- Crossmr ( talk) 09:37, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Good idea. Only I can't find a Giano thread. I can find the Tony1 thread - hours of fun, btw - but not a Giano thread. I want a Giano thread. If I don't get a Giano thread, I may be forced to un-archive. Or de-archive, one of the two. -- Relata refero ( disp.) 17:21, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
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For appropriately - and amusingly - diffusing extra and possibly unnecessary OMGDRAMA before it has a chance to turn into a giant raging monster thread that threatens to take out all of ANI (and possibly Tokyo as well just for laughs), I hereby award User:Barneca the Barnstar of Peace. Good job keeping the "waa-ambulance" under the speed limit! Hersfold ( t/ a/ c) 17:36, 19 November 2008 (UTC) |
He might not be an outright vandal, but he's "actively disruptive" rather than someone making n00b mistakes; ( [8], [9], [10] in the last couple of days alone), and someone with a "what does this button do" suck-it-and-see mentality is IMO far more of a threat as an admin than anyone other than an outright vandal-only account. Feel free to remove this once read… – iride scent 20:51, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
On the talk page, some say he's American (they're wrong, but it's a shame we have to be civil about ignorance), some say he's Israeli, some say he's Israeli-American, and some say we should omit the nationality status altogether.
Well, thanks to ignorant users instigating an edit war (the ones you really should be talking to, by the way), I guess we'll have to make a comprimise. A shame, as it will technically be wrong, but a comprimise must do I suppose.
Well, that leaves us with two options then, doesn't it. Taking into account the discussion on the discussion page, and the fact that without a comprimise, I will not be stopping the edit reverts, we must either list him as Israeli-American or omit it altogether. So, as a moderator, what would you suggest? Those are the only two reasonable solutions to this, and before I do one or the other, I would like to hear your opinion.
Leaving it in its current state, with Simmons being listed as American, is simply wrong. This will not be its permanent state, and before I edit the article again - which I will, at some point - I would like to hear from you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Suicidal Lemming ( talk • contribs) 22:55, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the swift answer.
Although there are several who disagree with him being Israeli, there are some who agree that that would be most accurate. You are right however - I cannot "win" this, so I will indeed settle for a compromise. Most of those who opposed my thoughts on the matter agreed that it would be perhaps be best to list him as both. I will try to convince others that this is the correct path, and I will indeed try to be civil; however, I am not going anywhere. Listing his as Israeli-American would be perfectly reasonable for both sides, and if people don't agree, then I'm certainly not going to budge. The best alternative would be to drop the mention of his nationality althogether, but move on and leave him being listed as American? I personally find the notion a little offensive. Suicidal Lemming ( talk) 23:43, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Thanks and sorry. (For legal blocking thing.) NoKindOfName ( talk) 18:12, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Hey Barneca, how can I contact ElButler when Im Banned from Her Talk page? Simulation12 talk) 22:24, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
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Barneca, I would like to thank you for your participation in my recent Request for Adminship, which passed with 112 supports, 4 opposes and 5 neutrals. A special mention goes out to Stwalkerster and Pedro for nominating me, thanks a lot for having trust in me! In response to the neutrals, I will try to double check articles that have been tagged for speedy deletion before I CSD them and will start off slowly with the drama boards of ANI and AN to ensure that I get used to them. In response to the oppose !votes on my RfA, I will check that any images I use meet the non-free content criteria and will attempt to handle any disputes or queries as well as I can. If you need my help at all, feel free to simply ask at my talk page and I'll see if I can help. Once again, thank you for your participation, and have a great day! :) The Helpful One 22:07, 25 November 2008 (UTC) |
Hi! Since you weren't here on Thanksgiving, here's a belated Happy Thanksgiving! I hope you enjoyed yours as well as mine. Elbutler ( talk) 02:16, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
They’ve got a new nick and a new variable IP. See the latest additions at [11] Edward321 ( talk) 05:46, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Usually I do school blocks that last the duration of a semester, usually students go right for vandalizing as soon as they know the block is lifted, so I just have the block set until summer vacation for them to make it easier on us in the long run. -- wL< speak· check> 18:57, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
That other Ogress has a third s. User:Ogresss is not me. I'm Ogress. It's a vandal harassing me. Ogress smash! 18:58, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for this revert of the header at ANI, which will allow section pointers to work again. Brief research indicates that Mediawiki can't easily fix this limitation, since the curlies are expanded in the wrong phase, or something. I wonder if the software could issue a warning when people try to save an edit that contains curlies in the header? :) EdJohnston ( talk) 19:32, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Actually it's been more than 24 hours since he last edited, so I think he gave up his fight about "President-elect". At least if we have to go through this in 2012, we'll know how to explain the situation better. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 20:10, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
You just accused me of being some editor that has NO common pages with me. Please retract your previous statement. Thanks Fru23 ( talk) 01:25, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
I started a Checkuser case here--feel free to list any other evidence you have; I just offered a summary. Blueboy 96 01:55, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
I have been admiring your edits from afar and I truly believe you have made a significant positive impact on wikipedia. Thank you. 24.63.39.127 ( talk) 08:40, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
I've apologized and said there are no hard feelings at all. Sorry about that, using huggle too fast! Won't happen again. :) Andy ( talk) 20:24, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Smile for you too, hope that helps!
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Hi, can I ask your assistance if and when you gat a free moment? An editor and I are at loggerheads about some edits on The Palm Beach Story. I've posted my reasons for deleting the editor's changes on the article talk page, and have asked him or her to comment there ( [12] and in a number of edit summaries [13], but have been unsuccessful so far. Do you think you can ask User:Britneysaints to participate in discussion rather than edit warring? I'd appreciate it. Ed Fitzgerald t / c 03:08, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
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Happy holidays! I hope you enjoy that speacial time of year! And don't forget to leave milk and cookies to Santa! E L Butler 19:45, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
I'd already dropped it with my suggestion to him to drop it. // roux 23:08, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Regardless of my expectation that we have a major disagreement, I appreciate your action in stopping that useless back and forth. DepartedUser ( talk) 02:50, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Barneca, as expected Rtr10 does not see that he has done anything out of line or improper [15]. In fact, he continues to accuse me of only making "nagging edits" and harming "hundreds of articles all while contributing nothing". He justifies his hostility and insults by demeaning my efforts as worse than worthless, in fact damaging the project. I am deserving of his behavior towards me, from his view. I'm not here to be the kid running up to you in class saying "See Mr. Barneca? He did it again!", but giving you a heads up that Rtr10 is likely to continue his behavior despite warnings (as before). He feels he can violate policy if he feels the person bearing the brunt of his transgressions deserves it. -- Hammersoft ( talk) 15:01, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Nah, that's fine. I almost blocked him myself, to be honest. Black Kite 00:36, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Is there a reason he's being allowed to get away with blatant personal attacks? // roux 02:36, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
You were absolutely right; well said. You know how you can tell you've said something incisive, sensible, and fundamentally correct on WP:AN/I? Everyone ignores it. Score! :) MastCell Talk 05:23, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Just wanted to say thank you for the kind email in the wake of the 'Barbarian' hoax. I was feeling pretty dumb, but you made me feel not quite so silly. Just wanted to wish you and yours the happiest of holidays. Take care and regards, MarmadukePercy ( talk) 05:40, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
You were right Barneca, getting involved in stuff you're not involved in can get you in trouble. Now the crazy sock-puppet farm is wiki-hounding me, engaging in my discussion, leaving angry messages on my talk page insulting me and the whole nation of the US, please help. He's probally going to leave some note insulting me below in a few minutes. Elbutler ( talk) 16:18, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
I did see your post on my talkpage and had hoped to get to it within the next couple of days, but I just noticed it was missing. Enjoy your break, and I hope to see you around here again sometime soon. Regards, Newyorkbrad ( talk) 01:01, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Barneca, my very best wishes for the festive season
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here I am again with yet another non-communicative editor, and this one seems prone to tendenitious (sp?) editing: User talk:Britneysaints. You'll have to look at the page history to see the comments that have been left for him, since he removes them with dismissive remarks in the edit summaries, but has yet to discuss anything, either on his talk page or on the article talk pages he's active on. If you have a chance, and you think it's appropriate, could you put the Barneca Please Talk template on his talk page? Many thanks. Ed Fitzgerald t / c 02:55, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Barneca. I see that you've been dealing with Omegacommand and his socks. I think that BarackBlows ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and 76.110.175.48 ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) are him too. Both are blocked at the moment: BarackBlows indefinitely, the IP for one week. If you agree with my assessment that this is the same individual, we can block both 76.110.175.48 and 76.110.167.164 (which you blocked earlier) for a longer duration. — Josiah Rowe ( talk • contribs) 06:30, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for stepping up to help someone who was having a problem. This was very nice to see.( BaldKojak ( talk) 04:37, 2 November 2008 (UTC))
Apropos of a recent WP:AN/I thread, perhaps you weren't aware that admins may not leave the computer for more than 15 minutes at a time. We lost our cigarette breaks in the last contract renegotiation. You have to eat lunch at your computer and raise your hand for ArbCom's permission to use the bathroom. It's all an obvious interpretation of this finding.
Interestingly, ArbCom also "ruled" that you shouldn't criticize someone if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Strangely, despite the applicability of this ruling to >90% of WP:AN/I threads, I have yet to see anyone cite it.
Hmmm. I appear to have gotten up on the wrong side of the bed today. MastCell Talk 17:25, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
You just don't understand. I'm new to Wikipedia and I'm really a six year old. Simulation12 ( talk) 23:29, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
Barneca--again, THANK YOU. (I never realized that it could be physically difficult NOT to type something; I really had to sit on my hands to keep myself from responding on her talk page with "Little girl, put your mommy on the computer RIGHT NOW.") Gladys J Cortez 01:19, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Do you think you can delete this redirect that Simulation12 made to my sub-page? Elbutler ( talk) 12:06, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Would you mind if you copy the stuff I wrote in Elbutler's talkpage back into my own talk page? Simulation12 ( talk) 22:13, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Barneca, since you were so helpful in dealing with my last child editor, perchance you could take a look at this one too? Either I'm not as good an explainer of "tone" and "encyclopedic" as I ought to be, or someone isn't getting it. Either way, I could use a hand on this one. Thanks! Gladys J Cortez 07:31, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Man, these KIDS! Here's another one. "Don't block when you're involved" is getting to be REALLY difficult. So is "preventative not punitive"--though I could make a very convincing argument that if I blocked this little charmer all the way to Hell, it would prevent a)more bad edits; b)my head asploding. I'm sitting here muttering "ignore...DNFT...ignore...bitchsla..(oh, wait)...DNFT..." Man, self control just sucks sometimes. :) Gladys J Cortez 01:20, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
I didn't say he didn't have any friends he did, i was just saying sure thing as in talk about yourself all you want to, but yeah thanks anyway, Hairy Perry 16:39, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Oh its fine, but i really do appreciate it though, hey would ou mind if I put you on my User Page under People I'm Cool With? Hairy Perry 17:01, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Ok, well sometimes you get what you ask for/deserve. Yeah, I'll put you on there. Thanks, Hairy Perry 17:24, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
[1] LOL - thanks for that - I needed a bit of cheering up and that was tops! Pedro : Chat 23:41, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I have been in an edit dispute on the [[The Daily Telegraph (Australia)] page. However, the editor in question, Michellecrisp [2], refuses to discuss the issue on the principle that I am an anonymous i.p. [3]. This user has a prolific edit history [4], and does loads of good stuff, so she obviously is not just trolling. So I am just wondering what I can do, apart from just walking away. It just does not feel right to claim that no consensus was reached [5] when she refuses to discuss at all. I am at a loss really, and I am only messaging you to be an impartial judge. Cheers if you are interested. -- 58.172.251.46 ( talk) 06:07, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Why is he doing this, doesn't he know he is just going to keep getting blocked? Hairy Perry 15:09, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
I've already filed a checkuser on Apawk...if you have anything to add to it, i created a subpage for it if you have extra info I don't know about it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Hairy Perry 15:42, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Checkuser for Apawk Hairy Perry 15:47, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Yes go ahead and do your thing, thats the first time I have done one of those so I didn't know how to do that, but yeah go right ahead. Just want to get this dude down and out! No problem, Hairy Perry 16:04, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Good work. That is a great report, that would explain why mine looked so bad even though I followed all the instructions it told me to, but oh well as long as we can get him some how some way...I'll be happy. Thanks for throwing my name in there as soon, I don't know when, but soon I will be trying for an RFA it probably won't work but it will show me what I need to work on to get to be an admin. Thanks, Hairy Perry 16:31, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
In case you haven't seen it but i'm sure you have, the IP for UnrealSpiritX or Apawk...whatever his name is, has been blocked and it was confirmed of course as I knew it would be and I'm sure you did. Thanks for your great work with me on this, Hairy Perry 18:31, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
On Keeper's page you reference the Sununu/Shaheen race in NH and say you voted for Kang... Kang? Who is that? I try to keep up at least a little with politics in NH, but that isn't a name I'm familiar with... Avruch T 19:33, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Hey Barneca, I love what you just said. [6] "But this is Wikipedia, not Utopiapedia..". :-) AdjustShift ( talk) 15:12, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
I guess I should be more careful when reverting edits, sorry! I didn't realize it was an interwiki link. Hairy Perry 16:19, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
On my computer it referenced it fine so it wasn't my fault, so don't take the blame on me, ever heard of technical difficulties? Hairy Perry 16:35, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
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Dude, who are you to tell me not to edit anymore? Your not God and/or Jimbo Wales. I'm still learning so why not try being civil on a sort of-new comer. I'm just trying to learn and its people like you who make me not want to. I thought today was gonna be a good day on wiki cause i'm nearing 1,000 contribs but somebody has to mess that up I guess. I'm calm in all this by the way, but apparently new comers or sort of are not welcome here. Hairy Perry 16:54, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
No, I got upset cause you said "fixed your link that proves my point" and you said "C'mon HP" like I was retarded for not knowing that was the format. I've taken critxism before and I can take it again. But when somebody gets all on my case for not knowing something that makes me upset. Hairy Perry 17:21, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Dude, ok i'm not gonna argue with you anymore this has gone on long enough. Just be civil when people don't know stuff. I try to be as constructive as possible and i'm not a vandal or anything matter of fact i'm the exact opposite, I patrol and revert vandals. Please lets start over and be friends, Hi I'm HairyPerry, sorry for my mistakes, please forgive. Thank you, Hairy Perry 17:33, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Nice to meet you to, now can you give me something to read on the ref tagging, please. Thank you, Hairy Perry 17:41, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. Oh and by the way I just got my 1,000th contribution like 8 minutes ago, this is so cool, I am excited!!! Well yeah thanks, Hairy Perry 17:49, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
You are threatening blocking.
I ask that you consider what is good customer service and apply it to Wikipedia. Good customer service is trying to understand all viewpoints.
There is clearly concern about removing article talk page discussion. I am not the only one who says it. However, some practice a different approach. They criticize the person who is bringing it up. It is like if you bought spoiled milk at the store. The store clerk then says "you waited too long to return it" or, worse yet, you are a SPA (single item purchaser or single purpose account).
I say that the best way is for administrators to look at the problem and try to practice good customer service.
I am saying this for your personal benefit. Wikipedia is only a small part of life but personal skills that you learn here can help you in life. I hope you will not block me with the excuse "blocking because of a personal attack on me here". I am not attacking you but just giving you friendly advice on life. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.174.46.42 ( talk • contribs) actually, it was signed, but formatting error in previous section screwed up the signatures for a little bit. -- barneca ( talk) 16:51, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Do we have a WP:Guide to dealing with troll vandalism page lurking around somewhere? In particular, I caught this user earlier and blocked for three days...is there more to be done? Thanks! Frank | talk 17:41, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
There is some I.P. adress ( 24.111.205.163) who keeps adding real world info to a article that's about fictional characters: List of Balto characters. Elbutler ( talk) 00:59, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
I don't know if it was the best idea, IMHO, to block the user in this situation. It seemed like you were reneging on the "deal" made with the user. I'm saying that as having the (rather unfortunate) experience being a sport referee for many years. The only worse thing in making a questionable judgment call (in which I am not questioning in regards to AIV; I agreed on not blocking until the next offense) is reneging such a call as it makes people further question your judgment.
I mean, I'm glad the vandal is blocked, but I didn't feel it was the best call to renege on it. That's my take on it.
(P.S. It's probably not that big a deal; I am sure this vandal, IMHO, would have persisted and would have warranted a block anyways.) MuZemike ( talk) 08:13, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Hey Barneca. Sorry for another random question... but you're like the only admin I have any relationship with in any way on Wikipedia. So - I hope you don't mind being the guy I turn to for advice?
I noticed this ip when they made a - in my opinion - clearly vandalous edit on Helicopter. Though whoever reverted it was pretty tame on their webpage, I checked out their contribs, and they've got 3, and they're all vandalism spread over 2 articles. I've noticed it - now what? Is there a "next step"? They've only made 3 edits, but they've all been - apparently deliberately - unhelpful. Or should I just watch this ip until they've made - say - 15 bad edits? Thanks Petemyers ( talk) 19:16, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
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11:50, 18 November 2008 (UTC)Thanks for supporting my successful Rfa! Hope to work with you more in the future!-- Aervanath lives in the Orphanage 19:25, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Simulation12 has started again her disruptive edits, she removed the picture from seasickness again. I have reverted this edit. If she does it again, she's all yours for taking. Elbutler ( talk) 19:41, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Dear Barnaca Many thanks for protecting my entry from vandals. I deeply appreciate it. I am just learning my way around Wikipedia, but thoroughly enjoying it. thanks. (how do I award you one of those star things?) Michaelrosenblum ( talk) 23:57, 15 November 2008 (UTC)Michael Rosenblum
I'm picturing a speed limit sign with a big giant number 2 or 3 on it that says "Speed Limit Only 3 Active Drama Threads". It could be part of the AN/I edit message;)-- Crossmr ( talk) 09:37, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Good idea. Only I can't find a Giano thread. I can find the Tony1 thread - hours of fun, btw - but not a Giano thread. I want a Giano thread. If I don't get a Giano thread, I may be forced to un-archive. Or de-archive, one of the two. -- Relata refero ( disp.) 17:21, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
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For appropriately - and amusingly - diffusing extra and possibly unnecessary OMGDRAMA before it has a chance to turn into a giant raging monster thread that threatens to take out all of ANI (and possibly Tokyo as well just for laughs), I hereby award User:Barneca the Barnstar of Peace. Good job keeping the "waa-ambulance" under the speed limit! Hersfold ( t/ a/ c) 17:36, 19 November 2008 (UTC) |
He might not be an outright vandal, but he's "actively disruptive" rather than someone making n00b mistakes; ( [8], [9], [10] in the last couple of days alone), and someone with a "what does this button do" suck-it-and-see mentality is IMO far more of a threat as an admin than anyone other than an outright vandal-only account. Feel free to remove this once read… – iride scent 20:51, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
On the talk page, some say he's American (they're wrong, but it's a shame we have to be civil about ignorance), some say he's Israeli, some say he's Israeli-American, and some say we should omit the nationality status altogether.
Well, thanks to ignorant users instigating an edit war (the ones you really should be talking to, by the way), I guess we'll have to make a comprimise. A shame, as it will technically be wrong, but a comprimise must do I suppose.
Well, that leaves us with two options then, doesn't it. Taking into account the discussion on the discussion page, and the fact that without a comprimise, I will not be stopping the edit reverts, we must either list him as Israeli-American or omit it altogether. So, as a moderator, what would you suggest? Those are the only two reasonable solutions to this, and before I do one or the other, I would like to hear your opinion.
Leaving it in its current state, with Simmons being listed as American, is simply wrong. This will not be its permanent state, and before I edit the article again - which I will, at some point - I would like to hear from you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Suicidal Lemming ( talk • contribs) 22:55, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the swift answer.
Although there are several who disagree with him being Israeli, there are some who agree that that would be most accurate. You are right however - I cannot "win" this, so I will indeed settle for a compromise. Most of those who opposed my thoughts on the matter agreed that it would be perhaps be best to list him as both. I will try to convince others that this is the correct path, and I will indeed try to be civil; however, I am not going anywhere. Listing his as Israeli-American would be perfectly reasonable for both sides, and if people don't agree, then I'm certainly not going to budge. The best alternative would be to drop the mention of his nationality althogether, but move on and leave him being listed as American? I personally find the notion a little offensive. Suicidal Lemming ( talk) 23:43, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Thanks and sorry. (For legal blocking thing.) NoKindOfName ( talk) 18:12, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Hey Barneca, how can I contact ElButler when Im Banned from Her Talk page? Simulation12 talk) 22:24, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
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Barneca, I would like to thank you for your participation in my recent Request for Adminship, which passed with 112 supports, 4 opposes and 5 neutrals. A special mention goes out to Stwalkerster and Pedro for nominating me, thanks a lot for having trust in me! In response to the neutrals, I will try to double check articles that have been tagged for speedy deletion before I CSD them and will start off slowly with the drama boards of ANI and AN to ensure that I get used to them. In response to the oppose !votes on my RfA, I will check that any images I use meet the non-free content criteria and will attempt to handle any disputes or queries as well as I can. If you need my help at all, feel free to simply ask at my talk page and I'll see if I can help. Once again, thank you for your participation, and have a great day! :) The Helpful One 22:07, 25 November 2008 (UTC) |
Hi! Since you weren't here on Thanksgiving, here's a belated Happy Thanksgiving! I hope you enjoyed yours as well as mine. Elbutler ( talk) 02:16, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
They’ve got a new nick and a new variable IP. See the latest additions at [11] Edward321 ( talk) 05:46, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Usually I do school blocks that last the duration of a semester, usually students go right for vandalizing as soon as they know the block is lifted, so I just have the block set until summer vacation for them to make it easier on us in the long run. -- wL< speak· check> 18:57, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
That other Ogress has a third s. User:Ogresss is not me. I'm Ogress. It's a vandal harassing me. Ogress smash! 18:58, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for this revert of the header at ANI, which will allow section pointers to work again. Brief research indicates that Mediawiki can't easily fix this limitation, since the curlies are expanded in the wrong phase, or something. I wonder if the software could issue a warning when people try to save an edit that contains curlies in the header? :) EdJohnston ( talk) 19:32, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Actually it's been more than 24 hours since he last edited, so I think he gave up his fight about "President-elect". At least if we have to go through this in 2012, we'll know how to explain the situation better. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 20:10, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
You just accused me of being some editor that has NO common pages with me. Please retract your previous statement. Thanks Fru23 ( talk) 01:25, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
I started a Checkuser case here--feel free to list any other evidence you have; I just offered a summary. Blueboy 96 01:55, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
I have been admiring your edits from afar and I truly believe you have made a significant positive impact on wikipedia. Thank you. 24.63.39.127 ( talk) 08:40, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
I've apologized and said there are no hard feelings at all. Sorry about that, using huggle too fast! Won't happen again. :) Andy ( talk) 20:24, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Smile for you too, hope that helps!
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Hi, can I ask your assistance if and when you gat a free moment? An editor and I are at loggerheads about some edits on The Palm Beach Story. I've posted my reasons for deleting the editor's changes on the article talk page, and have asked him or her to comment there ( [12] and in a number of edit summaries [13], but have been unsuccessful so far. Do you think you can ask User:Britneysaints to participate in discussion rather than edit warring? I'd appreciate it. Ed Fitzgerald t / c 03:08, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
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Happy holidays! I hope you enjoy that speacial time of year! And don't forget to leave milk and cookies to Santa! E L Butler 19:45, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
I'd already dropped it with my suggestion to him to drop it. // roux 23:08, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Regardless of my expectation that we have a major disagreement, I appreciate your action in stopping that useless back and forth. DepartedUser ( talk) 02:50, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Barneca, as expected Rtr10 does not see that he has done anything out of line or improper [15]. In fact, he continues to accuse me of only making "nagging edits" and harming "hundreds of articles all while contributing nothing". He justifies his hostility and insults by demeaning my efforts as worse than worthless, in fact damaging the project. I am deserving of his behavior towards me, from his view. I'm not here to be the kid running up to you in class saying "See Mr. Barneca? He did it again!", but giving you a heads up that Rtr10 is likely to continue his behavior despite warnings (as before). He feels he can violate policy if he feels the person bearing the brunt of his transgressions deserves it. -- Hammersoft ( talk) 15:01, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Nah, that's fine. I almost blocked him myself, to be honest. Black Kite 00:36, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Is there a reason he's being allowed to get away with blatant personal attacks? // roux 02:36, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
You were absolutely right; well said. You know how you can tell you've said something incisive, sensible, and fundamentally correct on WP:AN/I? Everyone ignores it. Score! :) MastCell Talk 05:23, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Just wanted to say thank you for the kind email in the wake of the 'Barbarian' hoax. I was feeling pretty dumb, but you made me feel not quite so silly. Just wanted to wish you and yours the happiest of holidays. Take care and regards, MarmadukePercy ( talk) 05:40, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
You were right Barneca, getting involved in stuff you're not involved in can get you in trouble. Now the crazy sock-puppet farm is wiki-hounding me, engaging in my discussion, leaving angry messages on my talk page insulting me and the whole nation of the US, please help. He's probally going to leave some note insulting me below in a few minutes. Elbutler ( talk) 16:18, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
I did see your post on my talkpage and had hoped to get to it within the next couple of days, but I just noticed it was missing. Enjoy your break, and I hope to see you around here again sometime soon. Regards, Newyorkbrad ( talk) 01:01, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Barneca, my very best wishes for the festive season
stay safe and talk to you in 2009 (hoping you find time and inclination to return on a more full-time basis).--
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