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Bobo.03 ( talk) 13:37, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
for Pain management in children. I've lived in constant pain since I was a toddler and have a very keen interest in the subject (I contributed most of Cancer pain and a lot of Pain) so thank you from the bottom of my heart.
I see you're a visiting scholar. I am too and need to talk to someone about what's happening. Can I talk to you about it? -- Anthonyhcole ( talk · contribs · email) 14:43, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
At the London Wikimania conference in August 2014 I had a twenty minute conversation with Wikimedia's then executive director Lila Tretikov. I said though Wikimedia's mission is to disseminate knowledge we are actually disseminating unreliable assertions - "knowledge" implies a high level of confidence that the assertion is true, and Wikipedia by its own definition is not trustworthy - and I asked whether she thought this was an issue worth addressing, and she said she did.
We met again in San Francisco the following year where I put a plan to her for making all of English Wikipedia's medical articles reliable in ten years.
It involved recruiting the editors of all the world's top medical journals to offer a reviewing service for Wikipedia's medical content, each journal reviewing the articles in its topic domain.
I said I wanted to approach BMJ, the company that publishes The BMJ among other journals, and ask them to provide reviewers for one of our articles. I asked if I could say I have her backing and she offered to write directly to BMJ's editor in chief, Fiona Godlee, and propose a teleconference.
In the teleconference I briefly explained the vision and stressed the importance of the quality of the reviewers. Dr Godlee and her staff seemed to me to be genuinely enthusiastic, and we agreed to try it on one article to begin with and then follow up with perhaps three run concurrently.
I put out a call at Wikiproject medicine for authors to propose articles for review and three were proposed and I presented these to BMJ who chose Parkinson's disease. They provided five reviewers. One is the most published author on Parkinson's disease. Another was deeply involved in defining its diagnostic criteria.
I'll just finish describing the model, and then get back to the narrative.
Shift the reputation risk from authors to reviewers. The two pillars of academic publishing quality control are peer review and reputation, and the strength of these largely determines how reliable we think a publication is. In academic publishing an author puts her reputation on the line when she signs a work, and publishers when they publish a work. This is a strong (not complete) deterrent against fraud and sloppiness on the author's part, and it obliges publishers to choose and manage their reviewers well. In academic publishing, peer reviewers are traditionally anonymous but, if we are to make a Wikipedia article as reliable as the sources we trust, someone's reputation needs to be on the line. We cannot force authors to disclose their identity, so the reviewers must put their reputations behind the article.
Subjecting a Wikipedia article to genuinely stringent expert review turns it into a reliable source by our own criteria, the kind of source that could be confidently cited in a scientific or medical journal, a school essay or a Wikipedia article. Until someone changes it. The moment someone changes the meaning of the article it ceases to be reliable. We should prominently link the reader of the current version to the expert-reviewed version in the article's history. Without a prominent link at the top of the current version pointing the reader to the reliable version, this whole exercise is pointless, and certainly no expert would waste her time reviewing.
Prominently offer the reader a simple diff. Here is a standard diff showing changes in both text and wikimarkup to Dengue fever after it passed peer review. Here is the "simple diff" showing just the text and changes to it - no wiki markup. The first is very difficult to read. In the second, you can see at a glance how the topic has evolved since expert review.
The model involves a paid facilitator: an expert Wikipedian who will present a Wikipedia-policy-compliant review to the article's talk page complete with appropriate sources to support every significant proposed change, and who will with the volunteer community integrate those changes into the article.
I think that summarises the model. I'll come back tomorrow and begin my mea culpa. It's quite late here. -- Anthonyhcole ( talk · contribs · email) 19:37, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
Please read WP:REFACTOR and WP:OWNTALK. If you want to remove comments on your own talk page, fine. If you refactor other's comments again, expect to get taken to a drama board. Chris Troutman ( talk) 03:23, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
Hello and glad tidings! Just wanted to let you know there's an edit-a-thon happening at the Pittsburgh YWCA to add info about under-represented women in Pittsburgh's history. More info here. If you know someone who might be interested, please spread the word! -- TheLeaper ( talk) 17:26, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for reaching out! I'm a very very unskilled user of Wikipedia, but learning! I'm happy to help in any way I can, but I might need a little hand-holding at first! What projects/articles did you have in mind? ---- Foxtreetop ( talk) 18:23, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the edit-thon. Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ 00:30, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
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Hi Barbara, A short fyi to let you know that I added a "Chicken" Gallery for next signpost in keeping with theme of humour. Cheers! — JoeHebda • ( talk) 18:36, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
Jytdog - Please stay off my talk page. It isn't productive, nor does it help to build an encyclopedia. Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ 02:49, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi Barbara, I hope you are doing well! There is an event on November 4 about the Historic Pittsburgh collection. I want to do some light Wikipedia-related stuff - I sent you an e-mail with some ideas and I'd love to have your assistance if you are able. Please have a look and let me know what you think! TheLeaper ( talk) 14:29, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
Barbara: Wanted to add as reference to the drawing Brehms Tierleben (Small ed.). 1927. The picture is from commons. This site gives an attribution. I would doit as a WP:SFN. I would have added it myself, but you have a GOCE under constructiion template on it. i don't want to get in your way. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 14:15, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
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Mimosa1986 ( talk) 17:49, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
Hello Barbara! I have three things about The Signpost 1) great work on the Humor section! soon, I might get around to handing out a Signpost barnstar. 2) several articles are in need of a CE, if you could CE, or enlist other people to, that would be great. 3) If you look at WP:FL, there have been no FL's in about a month. To fill the space, I thought we could include interesting lists in the section instead, I thought you might be interested in helping. Eddie891 Talk Work 12:32, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
Please do not create placeholder stubs in article space in Wikipedia. They don't serve a useful purpose. Robert McClenon ( talk) 01:18, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
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Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice to inform you that a tag has been placed on WikiProject Pitsburgh/November 2017 newsletter requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an article with no content whatsoever, or whose contents consist only of external links, a "See also" section, book references, category tags, template tags, interwiki links, images, a rephrasing of the title, a question that should have been asked at the help or reference desks, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Robert McClenon ( talk) 03:25, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
Sorry about my delay in response to your request for comment at the U Pittsburgh project grant proposal. Yes I want to support somehow. I want to be positive about the project but at the same time I want to be realistic and say that the Wikimedia Foundation has always in the past declined to fund proposals like this. There are paths for compromise. I neither want to be too encouraging or discouraging, because there are ways to make this work but also I have seen people make it work but compromise too much. Perhaps if we talked by phone or video chat sometime I could summarize the stories of how I have seen other people's projects play out.
Without any ambiguity, it is easy for me to say that I want the labor output of your project and that your price point is generous for the outcomes which I know you could achieve. The money you are requesting is low. The barrier which I anticipate is just that the Wikimedia Foundation sort of has a policy to not fund these kinds of projects except under particular circumstances. If you get funding, I am in, and whatever happens, I will support you along the way. Thanks for putting yourself out there. Blue Rasberry (talk) 16:07, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
Books & Bytes
Issue 24, August-September 2017
Arabic, Kiswahili and Yoruba versions of Books & Bytes are now available in meta!
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of The Wikipedia Library team -- MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 04:53, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
Hello Barbara (WVS):
Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable
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Hi, I wasn't sure if you got the ping on the Graphics Lab, but I put together a proposed logo per your description. I located a few photographs to trace silhouettes and I made the elements large so it should scale down okay:
(I suppose it's difficult to tell what the silhouette on the left is at this size). Cheers,
Mliu92 (
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Thanks for helping us work on the Transition Design Page. Galvin.adrian ( talk) 16:29, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
I'm ready to edit. Njeong ( talk) 16:26, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Meetup/Aphra Behn/Burney Society 2017 Conference Edit-a-thon. Chris Troutman ( talk) 08:38, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
Hi, I wondered if you would be willing to weigh-in at a discussion that I am pursuing over at talk:Abortion. Note that I have been called "Berkeley" because of my other IP address. Thanks, - 208.71.156.130 ( talk) 20:40, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
Dear Barbara: Thank you for your kind message and for the barnstar. I wish I had time to do more Wikipedia editing, but the bit that I do have time for, I try to do well. And let me thank YOU for all of your dedicated and skillful Wikipedia editing! Best regards -- Presearch ( talk) 19:26, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
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✉Respectfully, Anomalocaris ( talk) 07:06, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
Saw your request on the Helpdesk. Edit this talk page and place the following at the very top
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Then sit and wait for MiszaBot to do its thing - X201 ( talk) 12:58, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
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20:51, 19 November 2017 (UTC)I think the articles about the history of Medscape are fine to leave in the "Further reading" section. They are not listed as references but as further reading, although primary they are decent articles that provide additional information not in the article. I wouldn't add content to the article based on them unless non promotional and non controversial as they are primary. Also as a point of fact, Medscape did actually publish a peer reviewed medical journal for some time (Medline indexed) so the article should reflect that rather than "references" articles. Secondary sourcing is needed but I will look around and see what I come up with. Any objection to adding back the "Further reading" and the articles? MrBill3 ( talk) 06:31, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
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14:11, 25 November 2017 (UTC)This is not a primary source [1] but a review article. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 01:27, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
I saw [2] but it was the wrong place so I reverted it. Help questions can for example be asked at Wikipedia:Help desk or Wikipedia:Teahouse. Portal:Pittsburgh transcludes content from many subpages. Which part do you want to edit? PrimeHunter ( talk) 01:40, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
ADAM even though hosted by the US gov is not created by the US gov and thus not under an open license. [3]
Thus if you use them as a source you cannot use them word for word. Best Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 20:57, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
Also please note we generally only capitalize the first word in a heading. [4] Best Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 20:59, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
Hi Barbara, That is nice of you to give barnstars to some of the students. Whenever I identify one to flag for you, you have beat me to it! Great idea. JenOttawa ( talk) 02:20, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
Please don't template the regulars. Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ 00:51, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for your note. I am well aware that we can work productively together; you do some great stuff here. With regard to DS, you have been given alerts so that you can inform yourself of the situation. Things go best when we all use high quality sources and summarize them neutrally. Jytdog ( talk) 03:01, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
Hello, Barbara (WVS)! Thank you for your work to maintain and improve Wikipedia! Wishing you a
Merry Christmas and a
Happy New Year!
Ozzie10aaaa (
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18:58, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
It is here.
...out of your Signpost contribution, which I volunteered to edit. Took me a minute to figure out what was going on; I hope the readers "get it". By the way you might find this insightful. ☆ Bri ( talk) 07:31, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
You cited a journal on scitechnol.com, DOI root 10.4172. This is OMICS Group, their journals do not meet WP:MEDRS so I removed that reference. Guy ( Help!) 09:50, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
Can of worms, Barbara! The canonical source was Jeffrey Beall but he took his list down due to legal thuggery. There are numerous mirrors, and there's also a whitelist at http://www.doaj.org.
My page at User:JzG/Predatory has a search box, but there are false positives and some journals that are missing. The web domain is the most reliable search term. A few have DOI roots, most do not.
Standard red flags are if you visit the journal homepage and it gives an impact metric other than h-index or http://www.scijournal.org/ - there are fake journal rankings, too (see Impact factor § Counterfeit), and some say they are indexed and give a list of non-discriminating indexes, I have even seen fake indexes used. In the main, though, if it shows up in DOAJ or Clarivate and has a valid impact factor above 1, it's normally kosher. Guy ( Help!) 18:24, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
If you are going to keep ignoring me when I point out issues with your edits to this article, we are going to have a problem. When an editor has an issue with your edits and reverts you and brings the matter to the talk page, you do not simply keep editing and reverting. Given our tempestuous history with each other, and that this article was a part of that history, you should know better. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 20:26, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
I do feel badly that you still feel badly about past clashes. I am not stalking you. You want to know what really happens when I edit? It's like this: I find an amazing reference that contains great information that would benefit a lot of articles. Thus, as I had been working on childbirth and breastfeeding topics, I found lots of great info related to the anatomy and physiology of the Vagina. I'm working on breastfeeding - which leads to Nipple - which leads to Breast - which leads to Lactation - which leads to Latch - which leads me to HIV and breastfeeding which leads to STI...which leads to ..... That is the connection - and as significant and prolific your editing is, I am not stalking you. You are pretty darn important, but not worth stalking (I mean this as a compliment). Also, I loved using STIKI but it didn't work for me because I couldn't go 'back' to place welcome templates or warnings on potential vandal's pages. The reversion happened and POOF! I was whisked away to another change to review. I switched to another script that worked better so that I could use different warnings on user pages and even correct some of the errors. That is the story. I hope you keep in mind -- that my concern is for the article AND for your continued editing. You aren't being accused of being rude. BTW, if you need a journal article and I can download it to send to you if you would like. I've offered on the proj med talk page but no one responded. Best Regards, Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ and Merry Christmas 20:59, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
For all my talk page stalkers, 'my past' refers to this discussion. This seems to keep popping up and I am okay with that. Best Regards, Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ and Merry Christmas 19:44, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
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Happy Holiday Cheer!! |
in the spirit of the season. What's especially nice about this digitized version: *it doesn't need water *won't catch fire *and batteries aren't required. |
and a prosperous New Year!! 🍸🎁 🎉 |
Hi Barbara, Your Christmas message seems to be missing a closure. Yngvadottir's page looked like
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Hope you have a lovely holiday season and enjoy some warm beverages and treats of choice! Thanks for being amazing. :) TheLeaper ( talk) 17:58, 17 December 2017 (UTC) |
Flyer22 Reborn, I have updated the Cystocele article; it is caused by the weakening of the anterior vaginal wall. I will try to update articles related to Vagina so that you can add (or not) content. Best Regards, Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ and Merry Christmas 00:16, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
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Holiday barnstar |
You deserve a holiday barnstar, but this barn flake was as close as I could come. And best holiday wishes to you. Thank you for making Wikipedia a better place. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 15:46, 19 December 2017 (UTC) |
Oh, 'tis lovely, thanks. You're very kind - I'll put it on the piano with the rest of 'em. :-)
Keep up the good work, and happy editing into the new year! -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa? Lo dicono a Signa. 03:18, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
Greetings Barbara, Today while doing cleanup of Wikipedia:Tip of the day/December 20 I found an article, Prick (slang) tagged for needing expert attention for Comedy. At first glance, I don't see anything controversial and am wondering if the tag can be removed? Seeing your Signpost contributions for Humour maybe you could give this article the "once-over". Thanks. Regards, — JoeHebda • ( talk) 22:40, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
Hi Barbara, many thanks for the card. Merry Christmas to you and all the best for the New Year. SarahSV (talk) 20:41, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
Wondering why you add this to articles? For example in this edit? [5] Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 00:16, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
...to you and yours, from the Great White North! FWiW Bzuk ( talk) 22:35, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
Wishing you all the best for 2018 and beyond! -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa? Lo dicono a Signa. 20:46, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
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Merry Christmas Barbara (WVS)!!
Hi Barbara (WVS), I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year,
Thanks for all your help and contributions on the 'pedia!
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Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2018! |
Hello Barbara (WVS), may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this
seasonal occasion. Spread the
WikiLove by wishing another user a
Merry Christmas and a
Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you a heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2018. Spread the love by adding {{ subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages. |
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Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2018! |
Hello Barbara (WVS), may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this
seasonal occasion. Spread the
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Merry Christmas and a
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Happy New Year! Best wishes for 2018, — Paleo Neonate – 01:35, 30 December 2017 (UTC) |
Pretty sure I had a spammy dog wheelchair article deleted once ☆ Bri ( talk) 00:04, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
Wikipedia may not yet know about toe jam, but yours truly created Toe Jam Hill. ☆ Bri ( talk) 02:58, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
Naegleriasis is 95% fatal but "You'd have to have water going way up in your nose to begin with". So here's hoping that you keep your nose dry in the new year. ☆ Bri ( talk) 16:07, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
Image for your consideration. ☆ Bri ( talk) 16:38, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
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Hi Barbara (WVS),
Our system generated a list of potential new editors for your project. They may be interested in collaborating with your project members to on your project's articles. As you will notice, the list contains both experienced editors and newcomers. Both are valuable for Wikipedia and your project. Please go ahead and introduce your project to them, and point them to some project tasks to start with. We also provide a template invitation message to make it easier to contact the potential new editors. Just click the invite link to write the invitation message.
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for Pain management in children. I've lived in constant pain since I was a toddler and have a very keen interest in the subject (I contributed most of Cancer pain and a lot of Pain) so thank you from the bottom of my heart.
I see you're a visiting scholar. I am too and need to talk to someone about what's happening. Can I talk to you about it? -- Anthonyhcole ( talk · contribs · email) 14:43, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
At the London Wikimania conference in August 2014 I had a twenty minute conversation with Wikimedia's then executive director Lila Tretikov. I said though Wikimedia's mission is to disseminate knowledge we are actually disseminating unreliable assertions - "knowledge" implies a high level of confidence that the assertion is true, and Wikipedia by its own definition is not trustworthy - and I asked whether she thought this was an issue worth addressing, and she said she did.
We met again in San Francisco the following year where I put a plan to her for making all of English Wikipedia's medical articles reliable in ten years.
It involved recruiting the editors of all the world's top medical journals to offer a reviewing service for Wikipedia's medical content, each journal reviewing the articles in its topic domain.
I said I wanted to approach BMJ, the company that publishes The BMJ among other journals, and ask them to provide reviewers for one of our articles. I asked if I could say I have her backing and she offered to write directly to BMJ's editor in chief, Fiona Godlee, and propose a teleconference.
In the teleconference I briefly explained the vision and stressed the importance of the quality of the reviewers. Dr Godlee and her staff seemed to me to be genuinely enthusiastic, and we agreed to try it on one article to begin with and then follow up with perhaps three run concurrently.
I put out a call at Wikiproject medicine for authors to propose articles for review and three were proposed and I presented these to BMJ who chose Parkinson's disease. They provided five reviewers. One is the most published author on Parkinson's disease. Another was deeply involved in defining its diagnostic criteria.
I'll just finish describing the model, and then get back to the narrative.
Shift the reputation risk from authors to reviewers. The two pillars of academic publishing quality control are peer review and reputation, and the strength of these largely determines how reliable we think a publication is. In academic publishing an author puts her reputation on the line when she signs a work, and publishers when they publish a work. This is a strong (not complete) deterrent against fraud and sloppiness on the author's part, and it obliges publishers to choose and manage their reviewers well. In academic publishing, peer reviewers are traditionally anonymous but, if we are to make a Wikipedia article as reliable as the sources we trust, someone's reputation needs to be on the line. We cannot force authors to disclose their identity, so the reviewers must put their reputations behind the article.
Subjecting a Wikipedia article to genuinely stringent expert review turns it into a reliable source by our own criteria, the kind of source that could be confidently cited in a scientific or medical journal, a school essay or a Wikipedia article. Until someone changes it. The moment someone changes the meaning of the article it ceases to be reliable. We should prominently link the reader of the current version to the expert-reviewed version in the article's history. Without a prominent link at the top of the current version pointing the reader to the reliable version, this whole exercise is pointless, and certainly no expert would waste her time reviewing.
Prominently offer the reader a simple diff. Here is a standard diff showing changes in both text and wikimarkup to Dengue fever after it passed peer review. Here is the "simple diff" showing just the text and changes to it - no wiki markup. The first is very difficult to read. In the second, you can see at a glance how the topic has evolved since expert review.
The model involves a paid facilitator: an expert Wikipedian who will present a Wikipedia-policy-compliant review to the article's talk page complete with appropriate sources to support every significant proposed change, and who will with the volunteer community integrate those changes into the article.
I think that summarises the model. I'll come back tomorrow and begin my mea culpa. It's quite late here. -- Anthonyhcole ( talk · contribs · email) 19:37, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
Please read WP:REFACTOR and WP:OWNTALK. If you want to remove comments on your own talk page, fine. If you refactor other's comments again, expect to get taken to a drama board. Chris Troutman ( talk) 03:23, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
Hello and glad tidings! Just wanted to let you know there's an edit-a-thon happening at the Pittsburgh YWCA to add info about under-represented women in Pittsburgh's history. More info here. If you know someone who might be interested, please spread the word! -- TheLeaper ( talk) 17:26, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for reaching out! I'm a very very unskilled user of Wikipedia, but learning! I'm happy to help in any way I can, but I might need a little hand-holding at first! What projects/articles did you have in mind? ---- Foxtreetop ( talk) 18:23, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the edit-thon. Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ 00:30, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
Wednesday September 27, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon / Wikimedia NYC Annual Meeting | |
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We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! -- Pharos ( talk) 00:42, 13 September 2017 (UTC) |
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Hi Barbara, A short fyi to let you know that I added a "Chicken" Gallery for next signpost in keeping with theme of humour. Cheers! — JoeHebda • ( talk) 18:36, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
Jytdog - Please stay off my talk page. It isn't productive, nor does it help to build an encyclopedia. Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ 02:49, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi Barbara, I hope you are doing well! There is an event on November 4 about the Historic Pittsburgh collection. I want to do some light Wikipedia-related stuff - I sent you an e-mail with some ideas and I'd love to have your assistance if you are able. Please have a look and let me know what you think! TheLeaper ( talk) 14:29, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
Barbara: Wanted to add as reference to the drawing Brehms Tierleben (Small ed.). 1927. The picture is from commons. This site gives an attribution. I would doit as a WP:SFN. I would have added it myself, but you have a GOCE under constructiion template on it. i don't want to get in your way. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 14:15, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
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Mimosa1986 ( talk) 17:49, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
Hello Barbara! I have three things about The Signpost 1) great work on the Humor section! soon, I might get around to handing out a Signpost barnstar. 2) several articles are in need of a CE, if you could CE, or enlist other people to, that would be great. 3) If you look at WP:FL, there have been no FL's in about a month. To fill the space, I thought we could include interesting lists in the section instead, I thought you might be interested in helping. Eddie891 Talk Work 12:32, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
Please do not create placeholder stubs in article space in Wikipedia. They don't serve a useful purpose. Robert McClenon ( talk) 01:18, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.
You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice to inform you that a tag has been placed on WikiProject Pitsburgh/November 2017 newsletter requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an article with no content whatsoever, or whose contents consist only of external links, a "See also" section, book references, category tags, template tags, interwiki links, images, a rephrasing of the title, a question that should have been asked at the help or reference desks, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Robert McClenon ( talk) 03:25, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
Sorry about my delay in response to your request for comment at the U Pittsburgh project grant proposal. Yes I want to support somehow. I want to be positive about the project but at the same time I want to be realistic and say that the Wikimedia Foundation has always in the past declined to fund proposals like this. There are paths for compromise. I neither want to be too encouraging or discouraging, because there are ways to make this work but also I have seen people make it work but compromise too much. Perhaps if we talked by phone or video chat sometime I could summarize the stories of how I have seen other people's projects play out.
Without any ambiguity, it is easy for me to say that I want the labor output of your project and that your price point is generous for the outcomes which I know you could achieve. The money you are requesting is low. The barrier which I anticipate is just that the Wikimedia Foundation sort of has a policy to not fund these kinds of projects except under particular circumstances. If you get funding, I am in, and whatever happens, I will support you along the way. Thanks for putting yourself out there. Blue Rasberry (talk) 16:07, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
Books & Bytes
Issue 24, August-September 2017
Arabic, Kiswahili and Yoruba versions of Books & Bytes are now available in meta!
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of The Wikipedia Library team -- MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 04:53, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
Hello Barbara (WVS):
Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable
Halloween!
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Hi, I wasn't sure if you got the ping on the Graphics Lab, but I put together a proposed logo per your description. I located a few photographs to trace silhouettes and I made the elements large so it should scale down okay:
(I suppose it's difficult to tell what the silhouette on the left is at this size). Cheers,
Mliu92 (
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16:51, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for helping us work on the Transition Design Page. Galvin.adrian ( talk) 16:29, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
I'm ready to edit. Njeong ( talk) 16:26, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Meetup/Aphra Behn/Burney Society 2017 Conference Edit-a-thon. Chris Troutman ( talk) 08:38, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
Hi, I wondered if you would be willing to weigh-in at a discussion that I am pursuing over at talk:Abortion. Note that I have been called "Berkeley" because of my other IP address. Thanks, - 208.71.156.130 ( talk) 20:40, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
Dear Barbara: Thank you for your kind message and for the barnstar. I wish I had time to do more Wikipedia editing, but the bit that I do have time for, I try to do well. And let me thank YOU for all of your dedicated and skillful Wikipedia editing! Best regards -- Presearch ( talk) 19:26, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
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✉Respectfully, Anomalocaris ( talk) 07:06, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
Saw your request on the Helpdesk. Edit this talk page and place the following at the very top
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Then sit and wait for MiszaBot to do its thing - X201 ( talk) 12:58, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
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20:51, 19 November 2017 (UTC)I think the articles about the history of Medscape are fine to leave in the "Further reading" section. They are not listed as references but as further reading, although primary they are decent articles that provide additional information not in the article. I wouldn't add content to the article based on them unless non promotional and non controversial as they are primary. Also as a point of fact, Medscape did actually publish a peer reviewed medical journal for some time (Medline indexed) so the article should reflect that rather than "references" articles. Secondary sourcing is needed but I will look around and see what I come up with. Any objection to adding back the "Further reading" and the articles? MrBill3 ( talk) 06:31, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
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14:11, 25 November 2017 (UTC)This is not a primary source [1] but a review article. Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 01:27, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
I saw [2] but it was the wrong place so I reverted it. Help questions can for example be asked at Wikipedia:Help desk or Wikipedia:Teahouse. Portal:Pittsburgh transcludes content from many subpages. Which part do you want to edit? PrimeHunter ( talk) 01:40, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
ADAM even though hosted by the US gov is not created by the US gov and thus not under an open license. [3]
Thus if you use them as a source you cannot use them word for word. Best Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 20:57, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
Also please note we generally only capitalize the first word in a heading. [4] Best Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 20:59, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
Hi Barbara, That is nice of you to give barnstars to some of the students. Whenever I identify one to flag for you, you have beat me to it! Great idea. JenOttawa ( talk) 02:20, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
Please don't template the regulars. Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ 00:51, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for your note. I am well aware that we can work productively together; you do some great stuff here. With regard to DS, you have been given alerts so that you can inform yourself of the situation. Things go best when we all use high quality sources and summarize them neutrally. Jytdog ( talk) 03:01, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
Hello, Barbara (WVS)! Thank you for your work to maintain and improve Wikipedia! Wishing you a
Merry Christmas and a
Happy New Year!
Ozzie10aaaa (
talk)
18:58, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
It is here.
...out of your Signpost contribution, which I volunteered to edit. Took me a minute to figure out what was going on; I hope the readers "get it". By the way you might find this insightful. ☆ Bri ( talk) 07:31, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
You cited a journal on scitechnol.com, DOI root 10.4172. This is OMICS Group, their journals do not meet WP:MEDRS so I removed that reference. Guy ( Help!) 09:50, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
Can of worms, Barbara! The canonical source was Jeffrey Beall but he took his list down due to legal thuggery. There are numerous mirrors, and there's also a whitelist at http://www.doaj.org.
My page at User:JzG/Predatory has a search box, but there are false positives and some journals that are missing. The web domain is the most reliable search term. A few have DOI roots, most do not.
Standard red flags are if you visit the journal homepage and it gives an impact metric other than h-index or http://www.scijournal.org/ - there are fake journal rankings, too (see Impact factor § Counterfeit), and some say they are indexed and give a list of non-discriminating indexes, I have even seen fake indexes used. In the main, though, if it shows up in DOAJ or Clarivate and has a valid impact factor above 1, it's normally kosher. Guy ( Help!) 18:24, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
If you are going to keep ignoring me when I point out issues with your edits to this article, we are going to have a problem. When an editor has an issue with your edits and reverts you and brings the matter to the talk page, you do not simply keep editing and reverting. Given our tempestuous history with each other, and that this article was a part of that history, you should know better. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 20:26, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
I do feel badly that you still feel badly about past clashes. I am not stalking you. You want to know what really happens when I edit? It's like this: I find an amazing reference that contains great information that would benefit a lot of articles. Thus, as I had been working on childbirth and breastfeeding topics, I found lots of great info related to the anatomy and physiology of the Vagina. I'm working on breastfeeding - which leads to Nipple - which leads to Breast - which leads to Lactation - which leads to Latch - which leads me to HIV and breastfeeding which leads to STI...which leads to ..... That is the connection - and as significant and prolific your editing is, I am not stalking you. You are pretty darn important, but not worth stalking (I mean this as a compliment). Also, I loved using STIKI but it didn't work for me because I couldn't go 'back' to place welcome templates or warnings on potential vandal's pages. The reversion happened and POOF! I was whisked away to another change to review. I switched to another script that worked better so that I could use different warnings on user pages and even correct some of the errors. That is the story. I hope you keep in mind -- that my concern is for the article AND for your continued editing. You aren't being accused of being rude. BTW, if you need a journal article and I can download it to send to you if you would like. I've offered on the proj med talk page but no one responded. Best Regards, Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ and Merry Christmas 20:59, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
For all my talk page stalkers, 'my past' refers to this discussion. This seems to keep popping up and I am okay with that. Best Regards, Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ and Merry Christmas 19:44, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
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Happy Holiday Cheer!! |
in the spirit of the season. What's especially nice about this digitized version: *it doesn't need water *won't catch fire *and batteries aren't required. |
and a prosperous New Year!! 🍸🎁 🎉 |
Hi Barbara, Your Christmas message seems to be missing a closure. Yngvadottir's page looked like
this until I added |}
. You might like to tweak any other copies of your message?
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Hope you have a lovely holiday season and enjoy some warm beverages and treats of choice! Thanks for being amazing. :) TheLeaper ( talk) 17:58, 17 December 2017 (UTC) |
Flyer22 Reborn, I have updated the Cystocele article; it is caused by the weakening of the anterior vaginal wall. I will try to update articles related to Vagina so that you can add (or not) content. Best Regards, Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ and Merry Christmas 00:16, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
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Holiday barnstar |
You deserve a holiday barnstar, but this barn flake was as close as I could come. And best holiday wishes to you. Thank you for making Wikipedia a better place. 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 15:46, 19 December 2017 (UTC) |
Oh, 'tis lovely, thanks. You're very kind - I'll put it on the piano with the rest of 'em. :-)
Keep up the good work, and happy editing into the new year! -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa? Lo dicono a Signa. 03:18, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
Greetings Barbara, Today while doing cleanup of Wikipedia:Tip of the day/December 20 I found an article, Prick (slang) tagged for needing expert attention for Comedy. At first glance, I don't see anything controversial and am wondering if the tag can be removed? Seeing your Signpost contributions for Humour maybe you could give this article the "once-over". Thanks. Regards, — JoeHebda • ( talk) 22:40, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
Hi Barbara, many thanks for the card. Merry Christmas to you and all the best for the New Year. SarahSV (talk) 20:41, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
Wondering why you add this to articles? For example in this edit? [5] Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 00:16, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
...to you and yours, from the Great White North! FWiW Bzuk ( talk) 22:35, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
Wishing you all the best for 2018 and beyond! -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa? Lo dicono a Signa. 20:46, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
CAPTAIN RAJU
(T) is wishing you a
Merry
Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes
WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a
Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!
Spread the cheer by adding {{ subst:Xmas6}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 22:02, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
Merry Christmas Barbara (WVS)!!
Hi Barbara (WVS), I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year,
Thanks for all your help and contributions on the 'pedia!
,
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Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2018! |
Hello Barbara (WVS), may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this
seasonal occasion. Spread the
WikiLove by wishing another user a
Merry Christmas and a
Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you a heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2018. Spread the love by adding {{ subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages. |
Doc James ( talk · contribs · email) 03:49, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
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Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2018! |
Hello Barbara (WVS), may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this
seasonal occasion. Spread the
WikiLove by wishing another user a
Merry Christmas and a
Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you a heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2018. Spread the love by adding {{ subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages. |
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Happy New Year! Best wishes for 2018, — Paleo Neonate – 01:35, 30 December 2017 (UTC) |
Pretty sure I had a spammy dog wheelchair article deleted once ☆ Bri ( talk) 00:04, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
Wikipedia may not yet know about toe jam, but yours truly created Toe Jam Hill. ☆ Bri ( talk) 02:58, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
Naegleriasis is 95% fatal but "You'd have to have water going way up in your nose to begin with". So here's hoping that you keep your nose dry in the new year. ☆ Bri ( talk) 16:07, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
Image for your consideration. ☆ Bri ( talk) 16:38, 31 December 2017 (UTC)