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Because it is removing my updates, if they are true information included by All Music Magazine and the artist's official YouTube channel.
here are the quotes or references:
https://www.allmusic.com/artist/juan-luis-guerra-mn0000291502/biography
https://m.youtube.com/user/juanluisguerra/about
Even the official artist is telling you that he sold 70 million records, I do not understand why you edit it and put information that is not.
I wait for an answer, thank you. Fmonterocustodio ( talk) 02:08, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
I call this racism and it is very unprofessional on your part, since for the simple fact that it is Latino or Spanish-speaking, that means that it could not sell 70 million, when even the artist himself is cheering him I have even respected magazine like All Music rectifies it, so by not comparing it with Anglo-Saxon artist it means that he could not sell 70 million, I go back and repeat it for me that would be called racism and being an anti-professional editor on his part. Fmonterocustodio ( talk) 06:48, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
thank you very much, but even so I am going to propose my conjecture on wikipedia, I will even report it to the moderators, since I feel a bit racist on your part and we should not observe any ethnic group, here we only write information that is valid and even if the artist himself speaks it. Fmonterocustodio ( talk) 18:16, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
Hi, I have noticed that you have asked something in regards Latvian certifications, and I do not know about the remaining list, but what I have found was this, Modern Talking getting platinum discs while in Latvia: [1] Not much to go around I know, but they are on the list of those certified albums. I know it is just one artist, but still I have contacted LaIPA (Latvian associatian, I don't know what is it in the end, Laipa or Lampa), and they have told me via Facebook that the process was initiated through BMG International so they should be contacted. I have sent some ask to BMG Germany. What do you think? Dhoffryn ( talk) 19:32, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Record charts (via Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums), it states: Certifications should be sourced directly to certifying agencies, most of which provide a searchable database. When such a database is not available, other reliable sources may be used, but they must directly state that the certifying agency has granted the certification. Many popular press articles will contain statements such as "... has gone gold ..." or "... has gone platinum ..." based on a sales figure, when, in fact, the certifying agency has not yet verified those sales and granted a certification.
It states if you’re going add on a certification that it must be coming from the official agency, (RIAA) if an RIAA source is unavailable that’s when another source comes in but it must cite the RIAA as a source. Nothing else. Pillowdelight ( talk) 01:50, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
I’m honestly confused as to why several users have reverted the edits I had made even citing Wikipedia:Record charts (via Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums Pillowdelight ( talk) 01:51, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
But according to the official RIAA website it states that Nielsen Soundscan is not a reliable source. Pillowdelight ( talk) 16:56, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
Coming from the RIAA website itself and I quote “ For accuracy’s sake, we require that you send us sales figures directly from your databases. We have been asked why we don’t use sales figures from SoundScan. SoundScan measures over-the-counter sales at music retail locations, while our certification levels are based on unit shipments and digital sales/streams (minus returns) from record labels and manufacturers to a wide range of accounts, including non-retail record clubs, mail order houses, specialty stores, units shipped for Internet fulfillment or direct marketing sales, such as TV-advertised albums. In addition, SoundScan’s archive begins in 1991, while the RIAA has tracked artists’ sales levels for nearly 60 years.”
Please scroll down to “FAQ” You’ll see the Question stating “Can I use Soundscan to send you my sales figures?”
https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/apply/ Pillowdelight ( talk) 17:53, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
And every one of the albums certifications cites Nielsen Soundscan as a source, to me this sounds like it should be removed obviously if RIAA doesn’t allow it whatsoever. Pillowdelight ( talk) 18:03, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
To me this sounds like you’re just using an excuse to keep Nielsen Soundscan as a “source”. You’re making this sound as if the RIAA is incorrect. I mean let’s be real here if I were an artist who had a 3X Platinum album and the plaque physically stated “3 Million copies sold” and then have to come on here to see it being a random number because some unreliable source states it? I mean id be a bit confused and concerned and upset. I’ve been editing on here for only a few months but I’ve always checked and looked at certifications and never in my life have I ever witnessed a certification that never matched the actual number. And if the RIAA doesn’t allow Nielsen Soundscan then obviously something needs to be changed about these certifications. Especially if we’re going to be posting the certifications on here, yeah I get Wikipedia allows it. But again this rule in citing Nielsen needs to be changed if you can’t even use it certify any album whatsoever. Pillowdelight ( talk) 18:38, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
Sorry if I’m sounding harsh, I’m just upset that this rule of citing them is reliable when the main source physically says it’s unreliable. Pillowdelight ( talk) 18:50, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
Where would I open a consensus at? Where would be the right place? Pillowdelight ( talk) 18:56, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
Yes, I am so "old" that looking up Madonna is not on my list, although I respect her and appreciate her artistry. I am truly amazed, not only that people are opposing, but that this situation arose in the first place. (I have no idea how I arrived at the talk page anyway, you know how it is...) Searching for the name Madonna, and being shunted to a disamb page is illogical, IMO. Least surprise, please.
I added a few further cmts, but stopped myself as I realized that my sense of the ridiculous was getting the better of me. I started thinking: Bono is Bono, but what about Pro Bono? And then, Cher and share...on my! Anyway, I think Madonna is "like" Cher, as this her name. But if WP has to attach something after her name, singer is far away better than entertainer, ugh.
Anyway, best of luck. I will be watching. And remembering seeing "Madonna of the Rocks" in the Louvre, and knowing that it meant/translated as Our/my Lady of the Rocks. Please note that when I search for "Madonna of the Rocks" (the old name I think I remember from my 1960s/1970s art book) on WP, I am immediately swept away to "Virgin of the Rocks". Not surprised at all, because this is exactly what I was looking for. I shall shut up now... Tribe of Tiger Let's Purrfect! 06:14, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
Hello. Please see this discussion. Bionic ( talk) 17:48, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
Hi @ Apoxyomenus: can you help me out with something please? On this article a user that keeps adding back content that states that the song was the official theme song for the 2004 Copa America in Perú even though it never was. That song has nothing to do with football and it's about teenage love and breakup. That song was released a year before the tournament and was never used in the tournament. The official theme song for the tournament was by Gian Marco and I have already added lots of sources for that in the tournament article I removed it because it was obviously false but another user keeps adding it back with a citation needed tag. On here it says : If the content is nonsense or is unlikely to be true, be bold and delete it! But that other user doesn't wanna understand that and wants to keep saying that that song was the theme song for the tournament. Can you please look into that? I don't want to edit war with them but he wants to keep content that doesn't even make sense so I was hoping maybe you could look at it and help me. If you could do that, I would appreciate it. Thanks! FanDePopLatino ( talk) 18:58, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
Hi. I don't really think this is a big deal and I'm not going to revert anything, but just to make sure... you know about WP:NOTBROKEN, right? Or perhaps I'm missing something. Popcornfud ( talk) 00:17, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
Hello To answer your email about my revert, making repeated links to other articles is discouraged . — Mαuri ’96 ( talk · cont) 18:22, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. The following links will help you begin editing on Wikipedia:
The Wikipedia tutorial is a good place to start learning about Wikipedia. If you have any questions, see the help pages, add a question to the village pump or ask me on my talk page. By the way, you can sign your name on Talk and discussion pages using four tildes, like this: ~~~~ (the software will replace them with your signature and the date). Again, welcome! Legion fi ( talk) 18:15, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Because it is removing my updates, if they are true information included by All Music Magazine and the artist's official YouTube channel.
here are the quotes or references:
https://www.allmusic.com/artist/juan-luis-guerra-mn0000291502/biography
https://m.youtube.com/user/juanluisguerra/about
Even the official artist is telling you that he sold 70 million records, I do not understand why you edit it and put information that is not.
I wait for an answer, thank you. Fmonterocustodio ( talk) 02:08, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
I call this racism and it is very unprofessional on your part, since for the simple fact that it is Latino or Spanish-speaking, that means that it could not sell 70 million, when even the artist himself is cheering him I have even respected magazine like All Music rectifies it, so by not comparing it with Anglo-Saxon artist it means that he could not sell 70 million, I go back and repeat it for me that would be called racism and being an anti-professional editor on his part. Fmonterocustodio ( talk) 06:48, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
thank you very much, but even so I am going to propose my conjecture on wikipedia, I will even report it to the moderators, since I feel a bit racist on your part and we should not observe any ethnic group, here we only write information that is valid and even if the artist himself speaks it. Fmonterocustodio ( talk) 18:16, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
Hi, I have noticed that you have asked something in regards Latvian certifications, and I do not know about the remaining list, but what I have found was this, Modern Talking getting platinum discs while in Latvia: [1] Not much to go around I know, but they are on the list of those certified albums. I know it is just one artist, but still I have contacted LaIPA (Latvian associatian, I don't know what is it in the end, Laipa or Lampa), and they have told me via Facebook that the process was initiated through BMG International so they should be contacted. I have sent some ask to BMG Germany. What do you think? Dhoffryn ( talk) 19:32, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Record charts (via Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums), it states: Certifications should be sourced directly to certifying agencies, most of which provide a searchable database. When such a database is not available, other reliable sources may be used, but they must directly state that the certifying agency has granted the certification. Many popular press articles will contain statements such as "... has gone gold ..." or "... has gone platinum ..." based on a sales figure, when, in fact, the certifying agency has not yet verified those sales and granted a certification.
It states if you’re going add on a certification that it must be coming from the official agency, (RIAA) if an RIAA source is unavailable that’s when another source comes in but it must cite the RIAA as a source. Nothing else. Pillowdelight ( talk) 01:50, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
I’m honestly confused as to why several users have reverted the edits I had made even citing Wikipedia:Record charts (via Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums Pillowdelight ( talk) 01:51, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
But according to the official RIAA website it states that Nielsen Soundscan is not a reliable source. Pillowdelight ( talk) 16:56, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
Coming from the RIAA website itself and I quote “ For accuracy’s sake, we require that you send us sales figures directly from your databases. We have been asked why we don’t use sales figures from SoundScan. SoundScan measures over-the-counter sales at music retail locations, while our certification levels are based on unit shipments and digital sales/streams (minus returns) from record labels and manufacturers to a wide range of accounts, including non-retail record clubs, mail order houses, specialty stores, units shipped for Internet fulfillment or direct marketing sales, such as TV-advertised albums. In addition, SoundScan’s archive begins in 1991, while the RIAA has tracked artists’ sales levels for nearly 60 years.”
Please scroll down to “FAQ” You’ll see the Question stating “Can I use Soundscan to send you my sales figures?”
https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/apply/ Pillowdelight ( talk) 17:53, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
And every one of the albums certifications cites Nielsen Soundscan as a source, to me this sounds like it should be removed obviously if RIAA doesn’t allow it whatsoever. Pillowdelight ( talk) 18:03, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
To me this sounds like you’re just using an excuse to keep Nielsen Soundscan as a “source”. You’re making this sound as if the RIAA is incorrect. I mean let’s be real here if I were an artist who had a 3X Platinum album and the plaque physically stated “3 Million copies sold” and then have to come on here to see it being a random number because some unreliable source states it? I mean id be a bit confused and concerned and upset. I’ve been editing on here for only a few months but I’ve always checked and looked at certifications and never in my life have I ever witnessed a certification that never matched the actual number. And if the RIAA doesn’t allow Nielsen Soundscan then obviously something needs to be changed about these certifications. Especially if we’re going to be posting the certifications on here, yeah I get Wikipedia allows it. But again this rule in citing Nielsen needs to be changed if you can’t even use it certify any album whatsoever. Pillowdelight ( talk) 18:38, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
Sorry if I’m sounding harsh, I’m just upset that this rule of citing them is reliable when the main source physically says it’s unreliable. Pillowdelight ( talk) 18:50, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
Where would I open a consensus at? Where would be the right place? Pillowdelight ( talk) 18:56, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
Yes, I am so "old" that looking up Madonna is not on my list, although I respect her and appreciate her artistry. I am truly amazed, not only that people are opposing, but that this situation arose in the first place. (I have no idea how I arrived at the talk page anyway, you know how it is...) Searching for the name Madonna, and being shunted to a disamb page is illogical, IMO. Least surprise, please.
I added a few further cmts, but stopped myself as I realized that my sense of the ridiculous was getting the better of me. I started thinking: Bono is Bono, but what about Pro Bono? And then, Cher and share...on my! Anyway, I think Madonna is "like" Cher, as this her name. But if WP has to attach something after her name, singer is far away better than entertainer, ugh.
Anyway, best of luck. I will be watching. And remembering seeing "Madonna of the Rocks" in the Louvre, and knowing that it meant/translated as Our/my Lady of the Rocks. Please note that when I search for "Madonna of the Rocks" (the old name I think I remember from my 1960s/1970s art book) on WP, I am immediately swept away to "Virgin of the Rocks". Not surprised at all, because this is exactly what I was looking for. I shall shut up now... Tribe of Tiger Let's Purrfect! 06:14, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
Hello. Please see this discussion. Bionic ( talk) 17:48, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
Hi @ Apoxyomenus: can you help me out with something please? On this article a user that keeps adding back content that states that the song was the official theme song for the 2004 Copa America in Perú even though it never was. That song has nothing to do with football and it's about teenage love and breakup. That song was released a year before the tournament and was never used in the tournament. The official theme song for the tournament was by Gian Marco and I have already added lots of sources for that in the tournament article I removed it because it was obviously false but another user keeps adding it back with a citation needed tag. On here it says : If the content is nonsense or is unlikely to be true, be bold and delete it! But that other user doesn't wanna understand that and wants to keep saying that that song was the theme song for the tournament. Can you please look into that? I don't want to edit war with them but he wants to keep content that doesn't even make sense so I was hoping maybe you could look at it and help me. If you could do that, I would appreciate it. Thanks! FanDePopLatino ( talk) 18:58, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
Hi. I don't really think this is a big deal and I'm not going to revert anything, but just to make sure... you know about WP:NOTBROKEN, right? Or perhaps I'm missing something. Popcornfud ( talk) 00:17, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
Hello To answer your email about my revert, making repeated links to other articles is discouraged . — Mαuri ’96 ( talk · cont) 18:22, 31 July 2020 (UTC)