This talk page is for discussing AnomieBOT's TFDTemplateSubster task and reporting problems with its usage. If reporting a problem with the substitution of a particular template, you should check the history of User:AnomieBOT/TFDTemplateSubster and ping the editor responsible for listing it.
This talk page is not for re-discussing whether a template should be orphaned/substituted/deleted. If you have complaints along those lines, Wikipedia:Deletion review is probably where you want to be.
User:AnomieBOT/shutoff/TFDTemplateSubster may be used if a run in progress needs to be immediately stopped.
Shouldn't this page be Template protected like User:AnomieBOT/TemplateSubster force, not fully protected? ‑‑ Trialpears ( talk) 16:15, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
- Hmm. Yeah, probably, because if we don't people will probably just continue to abuse TemplateSubster for the purpose. Anomie ⚔ 16:20, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
Not sure what's going on, {{ Japanese name}} is showing "done" but there are still 2k transclusions. I know I should have checked them first, but I had to undelete 15 templates that said they were finished. Primefac ( talk) 20:48, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
- Same issue happend with {{ User_page_rounded}} a while ago. -- Trialpears ( talk) 21:03, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
I have removed two entries for which there was no consensus. Anomie, will that stop continued processing? What is the best way to get edits reverted? -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 08:32, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
This talk page is not for re-discussing whether a template should be orphaned/substituted/deleted. If you have complaints along those lines, Wikipedia:Deletion review is probably where you want to be.
ProcrastinatingReader ( talk) 08:41, 7 November 2020 (UTC)- @
Redrose64: It might take the bot a few minutes (up to about 5) to notice, but yes. Human editing, possibly assisted by AWB, is probably the best way to get the edits reverted, but be careful not to wind up edit warring.
Anomie
⚔ 15:39, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
- For the record, I've readded these following a couple of days since ANI closure. ProcrastinatingReader ( talk) 01:07, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
I think this was in error, and have reverted it; though it could perhaps be marked up with "nowiki" tags. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:25, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
I don't have a way to see the history of deleted templates, but it appears possible that {{
Infobox Israel municipality}} used to contain a default value for |subdivision_type=Country and |subdivision_name= that have somehow been lost in substing it following its TFD. See
this diff for an example substitution. The article
Abu Ghosh, and many similar articles, are in
Category:Pages using infobox settlement with missing country. Do you have a way of investigating this potential problem? –
Jonesey95 (
talk) 20:13, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- It actually didn't have a default value for
|subdivision_type=. The original code was| subdivision_type = {{#if:{{{country|}}} | [[List of sovereign states|Country]]}}
- Thus, when I converted it to the subst-able version, it would have only included the country if
|country=existed. Primefac ( talk) 21:44, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
The bot forgot to add |type=long when replacing long wikibreak with wikibreak. See for instance [1] CapnZapp ( talk) 16:29, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- There's nothing to be done about it now, over a year after the bot ran.
* Pppery *
it has begun... 16:33, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- It is definitely fixable. This page contains all 206 affected edits, but it may be annoying to fix because of intervening edits. Courtesy ping to Primefac who added the template to the substitution list. -- Trialpears ( talk) 16:44, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hello
User:Pppery, your terse reply came across as a bit dismissive so I'd just like to ask you if you appreciate feedback? Even if this was some time ago, there's no need for sloppy bot edits being approved. I'm afraid I can't help not seeing this earlier. Have a nice day
CapnZapp (
talk) 09:35, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah, you're right I should have worded that reply more clearly. A better way of phrasing that would have been
There's nothing AnomieBOT can do about it now, over a year after the bot ran
. And this was never AnomieBOT's fault in the first place, but instead the fault of whoever coded the template to be substable and then added it to the autosubst list. * Pppery * it has begun... 13:17, 21 April 2021 (UTC)- Given that it was more than a year ago, posting here is probably easier than trying to track down who might have added it to the list, and with the template deleted no real way to see who prepped it for the subst. In other words, not the best location but it's not a bad one. Primefac ( talk) 13:53, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah, you're right I should have worded that reply more clearly. A better way of phrasing that would have been
Anomie Does this task add |subst=subst: before substituting like the normal substitution task or not? If not could it do that? I find it to still be useful in some cases to make nicely substitutable templates easier to make. Couldn't find anything when ctrl+f in the code but I also can't read perl. -- Trialpears ( talk) 16:54, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
- It does indeed do that. The relevant code is in
User:AnomieBOT/source/tasks/TemplateSubster/Base.pm.
Anomie
⚔ 02:58, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks! Will use it immediately then. -- Trialpears ( talk) 04:16, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
I have just reversed one of the changes made to Peor regarding Numbers 23:28. The previous text linked to the Book of Numbers and then used the bibleverse-nb template to avoid repeating the word "Numbers" when the verse was stated. Thus the previous wording was
whereas the amended wording was
- mentioned in Numbers Numbers 23:28,
with Numbers repeated. I assume the same will happen wherever the bibleverse-nb template had been used immediately after the biblical book was named with a link to the article about the book itself. I am not sure whether the bot can spot and resolve this problem or whether the real issue is that there were some merit in retaining bibleverse-nb as a separate template after all? - BobKilcoyne ( talk) 04:46, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
- @
BobKilcoyne It's not a problem with the bot. It's just me being stupid and missing stuff I really should have spotted while testing. It was a good while since I did stuff like this but it's still not acceptable. I will resolve all these cases shortly. Very sorry for this and thank you for reporting. --
Trialpears (
talk) 04:55, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
- Much appreciated! -
BobKilcoyne (
talk) 04:58, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
- Everything is reverted now and the issue should be fixed. I don't trust myself right now and want to check everything another time before deploying it though so it won't happen before tomorrow. Again big thanks for the quick reporting! It is way faster to fix when it hasn't been running for so long. -- Trialpears ( talk) 05:24, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
- Much appreciated! -
BobKilcoyne (
talk) 04:58, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
This talk page is for discussing AnomieBOT's TFDTemplateSubster task and reporting problems with its usage. If reporting a problem with the substitution of a particular template, you should check the history of User:AnomieBOT/TFDTemplateSubster and ping the editor responsible for listing it.
This talk page is not for re-discussing whether a template should be orphaned/substituted/deleted. If you have complaints along those lines, Wikipedia:Deletion review is probably where you want to be.
User:AnomieBOT/shutoff/TFDTemplateSubster may be used if a run in progress needs to be immediately stopped.
Shouldn't this page be Template protected like User:AnomieBOT/TemplateSubster force, not fully protected? ‑‑ Trialpears ( talk) 16:15, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
- Hmm. Yeah, probably, because if we don't people will probably just continue to abuse TemplateSubster for the purpose. Anomie ⚔ 16:20, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
Not sure what's going on, {{ Japanese name}} is showing "done" but there are still 2k transclusions. I know I should have checked them first, but I had to undelete 15 templates that said they were finished. Primefac ( talk) 20:48, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
- Same issue happend with {{ User_page_rounded}} a while ago. -- Trialpears ( talk) 21:03, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
I have removed two entries for which there was no consensus. Anomie, will that stop continued processing? What is the best way to get edits reverted? -- Redrose64 🌹 ( talk) 08:32, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
This talk page is not for re-discussing whether a template should be orphaned/substituted/deleted. If you have complaints along those lines, Wikipedia:Deletion review is probably where you want to be.
ProcrastinatingReader ( talk) 08:41, 7 November 2020 (UTC)- @
Redrose64: It might take the bot a few minutes (up to about 5) to notice, but yes. Human editing, possibly assisted by AWB, is probably the best way to get the edits reverted, but be careful not to wind up edit warring.
Anomie
⚔ 15:39, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
- For the record, I've readded these following a couple of days since ANI closure. ProcrastinatingReader ( talk) 01:07, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
I think this was in error, and have reverted it; though it could perhaps be marked up with "nowiki" tags. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:25, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
I don't have a way to see the history of deleted templates, but it appears possible that {{
Infobox Israel municipality}} used to contain a default value for |subdivision_type=Country and |subdivision_name= that have somehow been lost in substing it following its TFD. See
this diff for an example substitution. The article
Abu Ghosh, and many similar articles, are in
Category:Pages using infobox settlement with missing country. Do you have a way of investigating this potential problem? –
Jonesey95 (
talk) 20:13, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- It actually didn't have a default value for
|subdivision_type=. The original code was| subdivision_type = {{#if:{{{country|}}} | [[List of sovereign states|Country]]}}
- Thus, when I converted it to the subst-able version, it would have only included the country if
|country=existed. Primefac ( talk) 21:44, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
The bot forgot to add |type=long when replacing long wikibreak with wikibreak. See for instance [1] CapnZapp ( talk) 16:29, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- There's nothing to be done about it now, over a year after the bot ran.
* Pppery *
it has begun... 16:33, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- It is definitely fixable. This page contains all 206 affected edits, but it may be annoying to fix because of intervening edits. Courtesy ping to Primefac who added the template to the substitution list. -- Trialpears ( talk) 16:44, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hello
User:Pppery, your terse reply came across as a bit dismissive so I'd just like to ask you if you appreciate feedback? Even if this was some time ago, there's no need for sloppy bot edits being approved. I'm afraid I can't help not seeing this earlier. Have a nice day
CapnZapp (
talk) 09:35, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah, you're right I should have worded that reply more clearly. A better way of phrasing that would have been
There's nothing AnomieBOT can do about it now, over a year after the bot ran
. And this was never AnomieBOT's fault in the first place, but instead the fault of whoever coded the template to be substable and then added it to the autosubst list. * Pppery * it has begun... 13:17, 21 April 2021 (UTC)- Given that it was more than a year ago, posting here is probably easier than trying to track down who might have added it to the list, and with the template deleted no real way to see who prepped it for the subst. In other words, not the best location but it's not a bad one. Primefac ( talk) 13:53, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah, you're right I should have worded that reply more clearly. A better way of phrasing that would have been
Anomie Does this task add |subst=subst: before substituting like the normal substitution task or not? If not could it do that? I find it to still be useful in some cases to make nicely substitutable templates easier to make. Couldn't find anything when ctrl+f in the code but I also can't read perl. -- Trialpears ( talk) 16:54, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
- It does indeed do that. The relevant code is in
User:AnomieBOT/source/tasks/TemplateSubster/Base.pm.
Anomie
⚔ 02:58, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks! Will use it immediately then. -- Trialpears ( talk) 04:16, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
I have just reversed one of the changes made to Peor regarding Numbers 23:28. The previous text linked to the Book of Numbers and then used the bibleverse-nb template to avoid repeating the word "Numbers" when the verse was stated. Thus the previous wording was
whereas the amended wording was
- mentioned in Numbers Numbers 23:28,
with Numbers repeated. I assume the same will happen wherever the bibleverse-nb template had been used immediately after the biblical book was named with a link to the article about the book itself. I am not sure whether the bot can spot and resolve this problem or whether the real issue is that there were some merit in retaining bibleverse-nb as a separate template after all? - BobKilcoyne ( talk) 04:46, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
- @
BobKilcoyne It's not a problem with the bot. It's just me being stupid and missing stuff I really should have spotted while testing. It was a good while since I did stuff like this but it's still not acceptable. I will resolve all these cases shortly. Very sorry for this and thank you for reporting. --
Trialpears (
talk) 04:55, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
- Much appreciated! -
BobKilcoyne (
talk) 04:58, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
- Everything is reverted now and the issue should be fixed. I don't trust myself right now and want to check everything another time before deploying it though so it won't happen before tomorrow. Again big thanks for the quick reporting! It is way faster to fix when it hasn't been running for so long. -- Trialpears ( talk) 05:24, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
- Much appreciated! -
BobKilcoyne (
talk) 04:58, 11 January 2023 (UTC)