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Again, welcome! Buster Seven Talk 13:32, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Hi Buster7!
Thank you for the contact and the information. I had already (dangerous thing, initiative) made a contact with the originator of the article I had set my sights on and s/he has come back to me, so I must have done something which works. Maybe it's also naughty?
AlfD1234 ( talk) 16:31, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
AlfD1234 ( talk) 12:33, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
AlfD1234 ( talk) 22:18, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
I've had a look - they certainly seem an interesting family, though unfortunately I'm not sure John Dobell is notable enough in his own right to merit a page of his own. Clarence seemed so - just about - so I've created Clarence Dobell. There are already pages for Sydney Thompson Dobell, Horace Dobell, Briton Riviere, Dinah Craik and Eva Dobell.
Hope this is useful advice! Dsp13 ( talk) 21:25, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
AlfD1234 ( talk) 18:09, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
Someone of that name aged 48 arrived in Plymouth from Gibraltar aboard the P & O ship "Macedonia" on 25 July 1924. Age is about right for the date for Eveline. AlfD1234 ( talk) 21:09, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
I also came upon this on a website called AllPoetry (and www.Shutterstock.com which doesn't seem useful).
So somebody somewhere (I don't yet know who or where) thinks Eva was Clarence's daughter. Mind you, so do I (I think!). Throw in some travel to Europe and North Africa (Gibraltar?) and it could make even more sense.
What I have learned, however, is there are a lot of column-inches out there with a birth date of 1867. AlfD1234 ( talk) 00:20, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
I've edited the entry for Eva Dobell. It still lacks citations but I believe there is enough evidence that Eva and Eveline are one and the same. Even so (being greedy) I'd really like to flush out a paragraph with both of them in it! Let's see if anyone else agrees or disagrees. AlfD1234 ( talk) 18:14, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
The Gloucestershire Echo of Thursday 18th April 1940 contains a detailed obituary for Dr C. Brian Dobell who died at 1, The Park, Cheltenham the day before.
“He was a nephew of Sydney Dobell, the famous poet of Victorian times, and a brother of Miss Eva Dobell, who has published some delightful verse.”
“Dr Dobell was the son of the late Clarence Mason Dobell, of The Grove, Charlton Kings”
“the business of John Dobell and Co. Ltd., which was founded by his grandfather”
The Western Daily Press, Thursday 3rd February 1876 Births
“Dobell – Jan 30, at The Grove, Charlton Kings, near Cheltenham, the wife of Clarence M Dobell, of a daughter.”
AlfD1234 ( talk) 21:09, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
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Again, welcome! Buster Seven Talk 13:32, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Hi Buster7!
Thank you for the contact and the information. I had already (dangerous thing, initiative) made a contact with the originator of the article I had set my sights on and s/he has come back to me, so I must have done something which works. Maybe it's also naughty?
AlfD1234 ( talk) 16:31, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
AlfD1234 ( talk) 12:33, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
AlfD1234 ( talk) 22:18, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
I've had a look - they certainly seem an interesting family, though unfortunately I'm not sure John Dobell is notable enough in his own right to merit a page of his own. Clarence seemed so - just about - so I've created Clarence Dobell. There are already pages for Sydney Thompson Dobell, Horace Dobell, Briton Riviere, Dinah Craik and Eva Dobell.
Hope this is useful advice! Dsp13 ( talk) 21:25, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
AlfD1234 ( talk) 18:09, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
Someone of that name aged 48 arrived in Plymouth from Gibraltar aboard the P & O ship "Macedonia" on 25 July 1924. Age is about right for the date for Eveline. AlfD1234 ( talk) 21:09, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
I also came upon this on a website called AllPoetry (and www.Shutterstock.com which doesn't seem useful).
So somebody somewhere (I don't yet know who or where) thinks Eva was Clarence's daughter. Mind you, so do I (I think!). Throw in some travel to Europe and North Africa (Gibraltar?) and it could make even more sense.
What I have learned, however, is there are a lot of column-inches out there with a birth date of 1867. AlfD1234 ( talk) 00:20, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
I've edited the entry for Eva Dobell. It still lacks citations but I believe there is enough evidence that Eva and Eveline are one and the same. Even so (being greedy) I'd really like to flush out a paragraph with both of them in it! Let's see if anyone else agrees or disagrees. AlfD1234 ( talk) 18:14, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
The Gloucestershire Echo of Thursday 18th April 1940 contains a detailed obituary for Dr C. Brian Dobell who died at 1, The Park, Cheltenham the day before.
“He was a nephew of Sydney Dobell, the famous poet of Victorian times, and a brother of Miss Eva Dobell, who has published some delightful verse.”
“Dr Dobell was the son of the late Clarence Mason Dobell, of The Grove, Charlton Kings”
“the business of John Dobell and Co. Ltd., which was founded by his grandfather”
The Western Daily Press, Thursday 3rd February 1876 Births
“Dobell – Jan 30, at The Grove, Charlton Kings, near Cheltenham, the wife of Clarence M Dobell, of a daughter.”