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In November, you semi-protected List of Ice Age characters as per a request to stop an anonymous vandal obsessed with inserting original research (and edit-warring to protect its OR). Would it be possible if I could ask you to protect List of Ice Age characters again because that same vandal as returned? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apokryltaros ( talk • contribs) 05:54, 6 February 2016
Come join us on Saturday, March 5th between 12PM - 5PM for the Art+Feminism 2016 edit-a-thon at the School of the Art Institute of Chicago! We'll be focusing our efforts on women involved in the arts, and a list of articles for artists in Chicago and the U.S. Midwest has been compiled at the project page. The event is free, but only if you register at the project page ahead of time. I'll be there, and I hope to see you there too! I JethroBT ( talk) 06:31, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
Seems the IP created an account and is now harassing my talk page, any chance of blocking that user or semi my talk ? Thanx, Mlpearc ( open channel) 20:10, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
Dear Airplaneman,
I'm writing on behalf of Actor/Producer Jackky Bhagnani. Our company, CA MEDIA represents the actor and all his Media Management.
For the last 4 days, we have been constantly editing his Wikipedia page and have now also added reference articles, citations for all his career + award related information.
Request you to please assist in helping us maintain the same.
Warm Regards,
Hardik Katira Sr. Manager - Artist Alliance CA Media (India) Digital Pvt. Ltd.
mail: hk@camedialp.com
Bavisimegha (
talk)
10:28, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
editing is strongly discouraged. It undermines the public's confidence in Wikipedia, and risks causing public embarrassment to the individuals being promoted." I urge you to read the policy page for yourself to see why Jackky's publicity team is discouraged from directly editing his page. Please see the paid editing guideline for more information. Thank you for taking the time to contribute to the improvement of the encyclopedia. All the best, Airplaneman ✈ 19:56, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
Can you protect my User page with Semi Protection that is permanent? I can't do it with my computer because it won't allow me to send a request on the normal page for requesting protection for pages. Also it's to prevent any possible vandals from editing my user page. Thanks! DatNuttyWikipedian ( talk) 00:53, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi Airplaneman -
Wonder if you could help me. I'm trying to find the content from the recently deleted article: Fred Joyal. Any help would be appreciated. Not sure if you have access to may email address. If no, it's towens149@gmail.com. Thanks in advance.
Cheers
Towens149 ( talk) 00:11, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
nice move— Preceding unsigned comment added by Cybersister27 ( talk • contribs) 16:32, 2 April 2015
Sir i want to create an article Secrets of universe,Can i start this article,i am requeting you please guide me ( Agoodboyfrom ( talk) 04:01, 10 April 2016 (UTC))
Thanks for the warm welcome and feedback on my entry, Airplaneman. Diane Latiker is a true inspiration. Appreciated the helpful links as well. Cheers 2602:306:8B68:770:6432:2E0A:400E:789E ( talk) 03:07, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
Admin.
Spartacus! keeps vandalizing the Sino-Vietnamese War page.
I have refuted him in the talk section but he just does not get it! He provided a economy article with a 1 page blurry picture to support his claims. I have added solely war dedicated article, yet he keeps on trolling and vandalizing them.
Please block him and protect the page.
Thank you,
-- 67.175.16.150 ( talk) 14:38, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
Hi, following up on this request, is there a way to contact an admin when there is no response to a very urgent page protection or block request on a dedicated project page? For example a list of admins who are online, or a Wikimedia email address. In the past two days, on two occasions it took 45-60 minutes before a page with rampant vandalism was protected, which even made the news. Thanks, Gap9551 ( talk) 15:23, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Chobe District (Separated from North-West District. Since you had some involvement with the Chobe District (Separated from North-West District redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. GeoffreyT2000 ( talk) 19:11, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
User:Widr has issued an indef block of User:Chevyoncé for socking. See block. You had previously done a full protection of the article per this 3RR complaint. Though both parties broke 3RR, it seems that This Is What the Truth Feels Like might no longer need protection. The article was promoted to be a Good Article on August 3 and it's possible that some editors might be standing by to improve it. Thanks, EdJohnston ( talk) 13:30, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
Hello. Why isn't this called 1948 War of Independence? I don't want to edit-war over this, but the current name sounds bizarre, to say the least. Zigzig20s ( talk) 00:44, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
page marked as protected. But wrong information................ PV Sindhu won silver, not gold — Preceding unsigned comment added by Baluperoth ( talk • contribs) 15:34, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
Hey Airplaneman, I saw that you indefinitely semi'd my user page User:LuK3. Would it be possible to fully protect my main user page instead? Thanks! -- LuK3 (Talk) 19:56, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
Could you check/add a second opinion here? Please feel free to protect the article if you want. Not event 50 edits in 2016, non-constructive edits in every 1-2 month(s) -- I am a little reluctant. -- Tito Dutta ( talk) 04:48, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the protection request on the Amatrice page. I couldn't figure out how to do it. The agenda of the disruptive edits is quite odd if not annoying. Thanks again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrakTalk ( talk • contribs) 15:34, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
Please have a look and consider my request for page protection for the page Björn Kuipers! Please help! Cricket246 ( talk) 16:08, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
Hi Airplaneman,
The editing from this page has continued to be disruptive past your protection period... Would you consider protecting it again with a longer duration? Thanks. MeowMoon ( talk) 19:27, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
Came across you at RPP. What a lovely name (almost out of a Disney movie, in a good sense). I forget to mention, my closest cousin used to call himself that. So this note. Ciao Lourdes 15:14, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the PP. However I fear you arrived just a bit late. The article was blanked again and the version you have protected is the one that is being sharply condemned at ANI and elsewhere. There is no consensus in favor of blanking the article. Could you please restore the full version until after the AfD is finished? Thanks... - Ad Orientem ( talk) 17:10, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
Re: USSR Premier Basketball League ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) You did a full protection, leaving the IP's removal of flags. Was that your intent? BTW: I have no interest in the article or subject whatsoever and just doing my usual RCP. I'll leave the state of the article up to you and have removed the article from my watchlist. Cheers Jim1138 ( talk) 17:15, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
I submit that the page protection be immediately lifted from the Greco-Italian war article as the article itself is heavily biased and misleading to its readers in that it is written as if the war was a victory for the Greeks whereas in reality, it was an Italian victory. The Greeks signed a surrender document to the Italian General, Ferrero two days after they surrendered to the Germans. The article is totally misleading to its readers and I request an urgent review to make it clear to the readership that it was the Greeks who surrendered to the Italians instead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.174.4.14 ( talk) 13:14, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
Really? How so? There are only two changes that need to be made:
a) that the pejorative statements about the Italians as "macaroni boys" is deleted and
b) that a clear statement be inserted, an historically accurate statement, that the Greeks finally surrendered to the Italians.
What is so unclear about it?
Zoro — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.174.4.33 ( talk) 22:20, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi airplane
Until the pejorative statements made of the Italians as "the Macaroni boys" are deleted and a clear unequivocal statement is inserted that the Greek Epirus Army actually surrendered to the Italians two days after the surrender to the Germans, then I am afraid this article will know no peace.
It may have to be locked indefinitely.
Zoro — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.174.4.33 ( talk) 22:16, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
Ping won't work without adding a new signature in the same edit. -- NeilN talk to me 01:53, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
Dear Wiki Admin Panel,
Please do consider & give me back my WiKi Profile. I am using my Authentic name here same as my passport. I am not using any abusive content picture or video here nor any fake name. So why you should Delete my profile? Please consider it & give me back my profile again. This is a humble request to you please.
Thanks Razu Rahman
My Other Authentic Social Profiles. links redacted by Airplaneman — Preceding unsigned comment added by Razurahmanbd ( talk • contribs) 08:58, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
re Special:diff/739170055 I understand objections were made to my creating redirects but I don't understand why it includes non-create edits to them. This would, for example, prevent me from tagging something with template:r with possibilities or putting an existing redirect into categories. I don't believe any objections were made to any edits I made like that, just creating them.
In special:diff/739164532 you mention "the only opposition coming from the editor in question" but there was some selective opposition from another editor which I would like to highlight.
In special:diff/738469264 the ANI was opened by User:LM2000. In special:diff/738499441 the User:Ryk72 advised caution in tracking my edits in response to my protest of LM following me to articles he hadn't participated in before. In special:diff/738539135 Ryk also pointed out two objections which I share regarding broadness:
1) a prohibition on creating/editing redirects is not required due to lack of evidence of this being an issue outside of pro wrestling. Obviously a topic-ban would would still prevent me from creating/editing pro wrestling redirects. I would like to request this modification as no objections were made to my editing/creating redirects on other topics.
2) that explicitly "professional wrestling" (and/or "pro wrestling" shortform) rather than "wrestling" would be more specific to the nature of the dispute. No objections have been made regarding my editing on the topic of Olympic wrestling, for example.
In special:diff/738669392 the User:Lankiveil advises building a solid record of uncontroversial editing in other topic areas for months before possibly appealing the repeal of the indefinite restrictions. I would like to do this but by making the above 2 modifications it will give me more freedom to do so while still keeping outside the area of contentment (pro wrestling).
For example I just did special:diff/739201235 and it occurs to me that this would support redirecting Pal Read to List_of_Arthur_characters#Animals_and_pets but I would not be able to do so under the wide scope of this ban, even though it has nothing to do with pro wrestling. Ranze ( talk) 10:28, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the consideration APM. Best as I can recall all the areas of contention had to do with wrestlers or titles in the WWE and its subsidiary NXT. I am wondering if it would be possible to restrict the topic ban to just them so that I would be able to edit other companies like National Wrestling Alliance or Impact Wrestling or Ring of Honor or New Japan. As best I can recollect no examples of my edits to these areas was introduced in the ANI discussion. I am hoping I could demonstrate an ability to edit these smaller promotions responsibly as a means of over time showing learned lessons so as to be given another chance at WWE content. I would like to help construct a template to search WP:PW approved sites but a PW block prevents participating there to keep attempting to familiarize myself with their classifications.
Given that the disputes have to do with recent content under the WWE name I would also like to know if it would be okay to edit older WWWF/WWF/WCW/ECW related things.
Going back to check the sourcing of older content would still keep me out of discussing present championships (though at this point with a universal champ in place on raw the background of smackdown's world title isn't as fascinating) and present wrestlers. Like for example on Big Show he is alleged to have been called "Big Nasty Paul Wight" prior to Big Show in WCW in the 90s and there did not appear to be a reliable source next to the CLIM supporting it. I would be able to avoid discussing Big Show in recent years (due to objections to my referencing nicknames others do not feel were popular enough to suit their tastes) while focusing on improving the quality of less recent data. Ranze ( talk) 03:38, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
Specifically it was KrakatoaKatie who mysteriously asked for this out of the blue, even though all examples were WWE pro wrestling (not pro wrestling) and then 'support' piled in, with very little actual discussion by these out-of-the-blue voters, leading me to wonder how much was due to reviewing the presented diffs versus other factors.
The only true consensus here was for a pro wrestling topic ban, Ryk72's objection means there was not consensus for a redirect ban or a non-pro wrestling ban. The discussion of a topic block was on the table less than 4 days, and the people voting to close it were Katie (the block nominator) and the second/third was by LM/Crash who were already WP:INVOLVED in content disputes with me.
The policy page section WP:NOTDEMOCRACY says this:
The concept of discussion leading to consensus would mean actually discussing the issues before reaching a conclusion. In many cases this isn't visible at all. For example:
Dennis and Rick and Only_in_death simply say "per Katie". That's not discussion, it's voting. Ryk is really the only person who visibly attempted discussion leading to a consensus, everything else was a call to action without discussing the underlying issues at all. My attempt to discuss was overall ignored, and even scorned, as if it shows ill will to defend one's edits. I get accused of bludgeoning when really, it's clear that people are trying to bludgeon me and this was defense.
Did you examine the behavior of some of these voters? ( special:diff/738667475 even admits that!) FIM gives the impression of polite detachment in special:diff/738667260 but 6 minutes prior you can see prior coordination with Crash and NeilN at special:diff/738666683 and later incivility at special:diff/738807839. The problem here is you're not getting neutral parties coming to ANI independently, they're noticing their buddies talking about it and coming to support their buddies.
Given that you're ignoring objectors to consensus and did an early close of a vote I think you should respect the closer consensus (taking into account Ryk's input) to affix "pro" (banning me from editing Olympic wrestling doesn't make sense) and exclude non-WWE redirects. Ranze ( talk) 22:23, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. I just found one of the IPs calling a prominent Indian academic a Naxalite despite the fact that he had explicitly stated he didn't support them. Nice photo of the 737 by the way - and I do love McCarran for its setting - landing there looking down was fascinating. Doug Weller talk 14:59, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi! I made a message to Richi, but he says it is not him. I see you opposed the Ligers for the popular cultural reference of Napoleon Dynamite. I feel it is very needed and not vandalism. I cannot see why you call this vandalism. I had friend check grammar, I used all effort to clear the article. But you keep it vandalism. This is real. Not vandalism because Napoleon describes Liger as breed of Tiger and Lion bred for skills in magic. Many many other pages keep cultured references. Why is this a vandalism? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.178.110.82 ( talk) 14:05, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 35 | ← | Archive 38 | Archive 39 | Archive 40 | Archive 41 | Archive 42 | → | Archive 45 |
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 35 | ← | Archive 38 | Archive 39 | Archive 40 | Archive 41 | Archive 42 | → | Archive 45 |
In November, you semi-protected List of Ice Age characters as per a request to stop an anonymous vandal obsessed with inserting original research (and edit-warring to protect its OR). Would it be possible if I could ask you to protect List of Ice Age characters again because that same vandal as returned? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apokryltaros ( talk • contribs) 05:54, 6 February 2016
Come join us on Saturday, March 5th between 12PM - 5PM for the Art+Feminism 2016 edit-a-thon at the School of the Art Institute of Chicago! We'll be focusing our efforts on women involved in the arts, and a list of articles for artists in Chicago and the U.S. Midwest has been compiled at the project page. The event is free, but only if you register at the project page ahead of time. I'll be there, and I hope to see you there too! I JethroBT ( talk) 06:31, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
Seems the IP created an account and is now harassing my talk page, any chance of blocking that user or semi my talk ? Thanx, Mlpearc ( open channel) 20:10, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
Dear Airplaneman,
I'm writing on behalf of Actor/Producer Jackky Bhagnani. Our company, CA MEDIA represents the actor and all his Media Management.
For the last 4 days, we have been constantly editing his Wikipedia page and have now also added reference articles, citations for all his career + award related information.
Request you to please assist in helping us maintain the same.
Warm Regards,
Hardik Katira Sr. Manager - Artist Alliance CA Media (India) Digital Pvt. Ltd.
mail: hk@camedialp.com
Bavisimegha (
talk)
10:28, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
editing is strongly discouraged. It undermines the public's confidence in Wikipedia, and risks causing public embarrassment to the individuals being promoted." I urge you to read the policy page for yourself to see why Jackky's publicity team is discouraged from directly editing his page. Please see the paid editing guideline for more information. Thank you for taking the time to contribute to the improvement of the encyclopedia. All the best, Airplaneman ✈ 19:56, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
Can you protect my User page with Semi Protection that is permanent? I can't do it with my computer because it won't allow me to send a request on the normal page for requesting protection for pages. Also it's to prevent any possible vandals from editing my user page. Thanks! DatNuttyWikipedian ( talk) 00:53, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
Hi Airplaneman -
Wonder if you could help me. I'm trying to find the content from the recently deleted article: Fred Joyal. Any help would be appreciated. Not sure if you have access to may email address. If no, it's towens149@gmail.com. Thanks in advance.
Cheers
Towens149 ( talk) 00:11, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
nice move— Preceding unsigned comment added by Cybersister27 ( talk • contribs) 16:32, 2 April 2015
Sir i want to create an article Secrets of universe,Can i start this article,i am requeting you please guide me ( Agoodboyfrom ( talk) 04:01, 10 April 2016 (UTC))
Thanks for the warm welcome and feedback on my entry, Airplaneman. Diane Latiker is a true inspiration. Appreciated the helpful links as well. Cheers 2602:306:8B68:770:6432:2E0A:400E:789E ( talk) 03:07, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
Admin.
Spartacus! keeps vandalizing the Sino-Vietnamese War page.
I have refuted him in the talk section but he just does not get it! He provided a economy article with a 1 page blurry picture to support his claims. I have added solely war dedicated article, yet he keeps on trolling and vandalizing them.
Please block him and protect the page.
Thank you,
-- 67.175.16.150 ( talk) 14:38, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
Hi, following up on this request, is there a way to contact an admin when there is no response to a very urgent page protection or block request on a dedicated project page? For example a list of admins who are online, or a Wikimedia email address. In the past two days, on two occasions it took 45-60 minutes before a page with rampant vandalism was protected, which even made the news. Thanks, Gap9551 ( talk) 15:23, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Chobe District (Separated from North-West District. Since you had some involvement with the Chobe District (Separated from North-West District redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. GeoffreyT2000 ( talk) 19:11, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
User:Widr has issued an indef block of User:Chevyoncé for socking. See block. You had previously done a full protection of the article per this 3RR complaint. Though both parties broke 3RR, it seems that This Is What the Truth Feels Like might no longer need protection. The article was promoted to be a Good Article on August 3 and it's possible that some editors might be standing by to improve it. Thanks, EdJohnston ( talk) 13:30, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
Hello. Why isn't this called 1948 War of Independence? I don't want to edit-war over this, but the current name sounds bizarre, to say the least. Zigzig20s ( talk) 00:44, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
page marked as protected. But wrong information................ PV Sindhu won silver, not gold — Preceding unsigned comment added by Baluperoth ( talk • contribs) 15:34, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
Hey Airplaneman, I saw that you indefinitely semi'd my user page User:LuK3. Would it be possible to fully protect my main user page instead? Thanks! -- LuK3 (Talk) 19:56, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
Could you check/add a second opinion here? Please feel free to protect the article if you want. Not event 50 edits in 2016, non-constructive edits in every 1-2 month(s) -- I am a little reluctant. -- Tito Dutta ( talk) 04:48, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the protection request on the Amatrice page. I couldn't figure out how to do it. The agenda of the disruptive edits is quite odd if not annoying. Thanks again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrakTalk ( talk • contribs) 15:34, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
Please have a look and consider my request for page protection for the page Björn Kuipers! Please help! Cricket246 ( talk) 16:08, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
Hi Airplaneman,
The editing from this page has continued to be disruptive past your protection period... Would you consider protecting it again with a longer duration? Thanks. MeowMoon ( talk) 19:27, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
Came across you at RPP. What a lovely name (almost out of a Disney movie, in a good sense). I forget to mention, my closest cousin used to call himself that. So this note. Ciao Lourdes 15:14, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the PP. However I fear you arrived just a bit late. The article was blanked again and the version you have protected is the one that is being sharply condemned at ANI and elsewhere. There is no consensus in favor of blanking the article. Could you please restore the full version until after the AfD is finished? Thanks... - Ad Orientem ( talk) 17:10, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
Re: USSR Premier Basketball League ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs) You did a full protection, leaving the IP's removal of flags. Was that your intent? BTW: I have no interest in the article or subject whatsoever and just doing my usual RCP. I'll leave the state of the article up to you and have removed the article from my watchlist. Cheers Jim1138 ( talk) 17:15, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
I submit that the page protection be immediately lifted from the Greco-Italian war article as the article itself is heavily biased and misleading to its readers in that it is written as if the war was a victory for the Greeks whereas in reality, it was an Italian victory. The Greeks signed a surrender document to the Italian General, Ferrero two days after they surrendered to the Germans. The article is totally misleading to its readers and I request an urgent review to make it clear to the readership that it was the Greeks who surrendered to the Italians instead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.174.4.14 ( talk) 13:14, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
Really? How so? There are only two changes that need to be made:
a) that the pejorative statements about the Italians as "macaroni boys" is deleted and
b) that a clear statement be inserted, an historically accurate statement, that the Greeks finally surrendered to the Italians.
What is so unclear about it?
Zoro — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.174.4.33 ( talk) 22:20, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi airplane
Until the pejorative statements made of the Italians as "the Macaroni boys" are deleted and a clear unequivocal statement is inserted that the Greek Epirus Army actually surrendered to the Italians two days after the surrender to the Germans, then I am afraid this article will know no peace.
It may have to be locked indefinitely.
Zoro — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.174.4.33 ( talk) 22:16, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
Ping won't work without adding a new signature in the same edit. -- NeilN talk to me 01:53, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
Dear Wiki Admin Panel,
Please do consider & give me back my WiKi Profile. I am using my Authentic name here same as my passport. I am not using any abusive content picture or video here nor any fake name. So why you should Delete my profile? Please consider it & give me back my profile again. This is a humble request to you please.
Thanks Razu Rahman
My Other Authentic Social Profiles. links redacted by Airplaneman — Preceding unsigned comment added by Razurahmanbd ( talk • contribs) 08:58, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
re Special:diff/739170055 I understand objections were made to my creating redirects but I don't understand why it includes non-create edits to them. This would, for example, prevent me from tagging something with template:r with possibilities or putting an existing redirect into categories. I don't believe any objections were made to any edits I made like that, just creating them.
In special:diff/739164532 you mention "the only opposition coming from the editor in question" but there was some selective opposition from another editor which I would like to highlight.
In special:diff/738469264 the ANI was opened by User:LM2000. In special:diff/738499441 the User:Ryk72 advised caution in tracking my edits in response to my protest of LM following me to articles he hadn't participated in before. In special:diff/738539135 Ryk also pointed out two objections which I share regarding broadness:
1) a prohibition on creating/editing redirects is not required due to lack of evidence of this being an issue outside of pro wrestling. Obviously a topic-ban would would still prevent me from creating/editing pro wrestling redirects. I would like to request this modification as no objections were made to my editing/creating redirects on other topics.
2) that explicitly "professional wrestling" (and/or "pro wrestling" shortform) rather than "wrestling" would be more specific to the nature of the dispute. No objections have been made regarding my editing on the topic of Olympic wrestling, for example.
In special:diff/738669392 the User:Lankiveil advises building a solid record of uncontroversial editing in other topic areas for months before possibly appealing the repeal of the indefinite restrictions. I would like to do this but by making the above 2 modifications it will give me more freedom to do so while still keeping outside the area of contentment (pro wrestling).
For example I just did special:diff/739201235 and it occurs to me that this would support redirecting Pal Read to List_of_Arthur_characters#Animals_and_pets but I would not be able to do so under the wide scope of this ban, even though it has nothing to do with pro wrestling. Ranze ( talk) 10:28, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the consideration APM. Best as I can recall all the areas of contention had to do with wrestlers or titles in the WWE and its subsidiary NXT. I am wondering if it would be possible to restrict the topic ban to just them so that I would be able to edit other companies like National Wrestling Alliance or Impact Wrestling or Ring of Honor or New Japan. As best I can recollect no examples of my edits to these areas was introduced in the ANI discussion. I am hoping I could demonstrate an ability to edit these smaller promotions responsibly as a means of over time showing learned lessons so as to be given another chance at WWE content. I would like to help construct a template to search WP:PW approved sites but a PW block prevents participating there to keep attempting to familiarize myself with their classifications.
Given that the disputes have to do with recent content under the WWE name I would also like to know if it would be okay to edit older WWWF/WWF/WCW/ECW related things.
Going back to check the sourcing of older content would still keep me out of discussing present championships (though at this point with a universal champ in place on raw the background of smackdown's world title isn't as fascinating) and present wrestlers. Like for example on Big Show he is alleged to have been called "Big Nasty Paul Wight" prior to Big Show in WCW in the 90s and there did not appear to be a reliable source next to the CLIM supporting it. I would be able to avoid discussing Big Show in recent years (due to objections to my referencing nicknames others do not feel were popular enough to suit their tastes) while focusing on improving the quality of less recent data. Ranze ( talk) 03:38, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
Specifically it was KrakatoaKatie who mysteriously asked for this out of the blue, even though all examples were WWE pro wrestling (not pro wrestling) and then 'support' piled in, with very little actual discussion by these out-of-the-blue voters, leading me to wonder how much was due to reviewing the presented diffs versus other factors.
The only true consensus here was for a pro wrestling topic ban, Ryk72's objection means there was not consensus for a redirect ban or a non-pro wrestling ban. The discussion of a topic block was on the table less than 4 days, and the people voting to close it were Katie (the block nominator) and the second/third was by LM/Crash who were already WP:INVOLVED in content disputes with me.
The policy page section WP:NOTDEMOCRACY says this:
The concept of discussion leading to consensus would mean actually discussing the issues before reaching a conclusion. In many cases this isn't visible at all. For example:
Dennis and Rick and Only_in_death simply say "per Katie". That's not discussion, it's voting. Ryk is really the only person who visibly attempted discussion leading to a consensus, everything else was a call to action without discussing the underlying issues at all. My attempt to discuss was overall ignored, and even scorned, as if it shows ill will to defend one's edits. I get accused of bludgeoning when really, it's clear that people are trying to bludgeon me and this was defense.
Did you examine the behavior of some of these voters? ( special:diff/738667475 even admits that!) FIM gives the impression of polite detachment in special:diff/738667260 but 6 minutes prior you can see prior coordination with Crash and NeilN at special:diff/738666683 and later incivility at special:diff/738807839. The problem here is you're not getting neutral parties coming to ANI independently, they're noticing their buddies talking about it and coming to support their buddies.
Given that you're ignoring objectors to consensus and did an early close of a vote I think you should respect the closer consensus (taking into account Ryk's input) to affix "pro" (banning me from editing Olympic wrestling doesn't make sense) and exclude non-WWE redirects. Ranze ( talk) 22:23, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. I just found one of the IPs calling a prominent Indian academic a Naxalite despite the fact that he had explicitly stated he didn't support them. Nice photo of the 737 by the way - and I do love McCarran for its setting - landing there looking down was fascinating. Doug Weller talk 14:59, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi! I made a message to Richi, but he says it is not him. I see you opposed the Ligers for the popular cultural reference of Napoleon Dynamite. I feel it is very needed and not vandalism. I cannot see why you call this vandalism. I had friend check grammar, I used all effort to clear the article. But you keep it vandalism. This is real. Not vandalism because Napoleon describes Liger as breed of Tiger and Lion bred for skills in magic. Many many other pages keep cultured references. Why is this a vandalism? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.178.110.82 ( talk) 14:05, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
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