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Hey, I saw that you aren't watching the LGBT project anymore. I had answered your query about whether it was notable enough for an article with a yes, and a bunch of references I found. This might well fall into your too controversial category (given why they are notable in the first place). If you think you might like to collaborate on an article, let me know. If not, that's fine, and I might try to start one anyway. (I'm glad you're back... do what you need to do for yourself!)
In other matters, thanks for reverting the anonymous attack from my page. Aleta Sing 02:29, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
In regards to Rev. M.L. Latta House, do you have any idea why that 3rd link in the reference section is not formatting correctly? AgnosticPreachersKid ( talk) 02:52, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
Check this YouTube vid out, APK. I think you may like it. I did. — Becksguy ( talk) 10:11, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
I should know better than to try and top APK in YouTubeology, but here's one. What does "Furgalicious" mean? On second thought, I don't wanna know. — Becksguy ( talk) 00:17, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
-- Bobet 17:48, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
(swiped from Dekisugi, loves it)
I got this conversation from somebody's talk page when he encountered a troll. Funny, hahaha.
AgnosticPreachersKid ( talk) 14:42, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
LOL Amusing. Aleta Sing 02:55, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi-freaking-larious.... Great find. The best line was "I give up :(" — Becksguy ( talk) 00:51, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
This is for you. Try not to pay attention to the bad dancing and Grandma bedspread. Just enjoy the scenery. AgnosticPreachersKid ( talk) 05:16, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I want it...the Granny bedspread. It looks very comfy. LOL — Becksguy ( talk) 14:47, 3 April 2008 (UTC) Becksguy ( talk) 14:47, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I figured out which comment was yours (there are many clues on your user pages). Sometimes the comments are better than the video. I thought the video was fun to watch, so thanks, even if not my type. BTW, check out some photos I took here in a unpublished Flickr folder [1]. — Becksguy ( talk) 23:54, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Ok, my apologies. He's already been blocked anyway. Sorry about that. Hersfold ( t/ a/ c) 05:25, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
He's gone, or so he
claims on
Aleta's talk page. Note the reference to the "gay mafia." More proof we
it
exists. I
wished him farewell.
AgnosticPreachersKid (
talk) 10:06, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
No clue if it's art. But I know what I like =D -- SatyrTN ( talk / contribs) 03:38, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
I celebrate April Fools year-round. :P AgnosticPreachersKid ( talk) 05:47, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
How about you give it a try, k? Justinm1978 ( talk) 16:39, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
No, not that kind. I mean time to take a break from editing and enjoy another video. IMO, when people annoy you by not minding their own business instead of writing or editing articles, a funny or inspiring video will brighten your day. Marlee Matlin is someone I look up to, not just because she's an accomplished actress, but because of her determination to achieve unimagineable goals. Also, she sure knows how to play a convincing lesbian, no? So when someone gets on your nerves or tells you that you're not capable of doing something, just remember that anything is possible. (who knew I could be serious?) Aww hell, here's something for you horndogs too. AgnosticPreachersKid ( talk) 23:08, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
[Moved from User talk:SatyrTN#I miss NC]
I'm watching your vids now. And here is one for you, as an answer to Fergie's Fergalicious you mentioned before. Nerdz rule! — Becksguy ( talk) 03:21, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
No, but I saw the new jeans ..... :-) Sorry, I got involved in a veeerrrry long phone call. — Becksguy ( talk) 05:22, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Actually they are from an estimate in late 2005 and the albuquerque population that was listed is way off and i was correcting it because iam one of the ACS planning divison commissioners in albuquerque so there is your answer, sorry but i was just letting the people know what is the correct population.
ThomasSalazar chat?! 09:20 MT, 07 April 2008 (UTC)
Well lets just settle it here, you leave it the way it is i think i should know my father is a council member. But nice talking with you :] Peace! ThomasSalazar chat?! 09:30 MT, 07 April 2008 (UTC)
I've made a tiny start at User:Aleta/sandbox#Pullen Memorial Baptist Church. Feel free to do whatever, whenever on it there. Just ignore the signature junk at the bottom of the page. Aleta Sing 02:58, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I've got to call it a night... Aleta Sing 05:32, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
With the bldgs&structures category, shouldn't we talk some about the actua physical building? Do you have anything on that? Aleta Sing 16:12, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Yay, thanks for taking it live. I had thought that we could just move it from my sandbox to mainspace to preserve the history. This is probably fine though. I see that David added the picture. Can I assume that twbuckner (or whatever his/her name is) changed the license? Aleta Sing 13:58, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
I just added the pastor's opposition to the Vietnam War. I'm trying to find a picture of him. It would be fair use since he's dead and considering there was a resolution passed in his honor by the NC General Assembly, it would be appropriate to have a pic of him. AgnosticPreachersKid ( talk) 17:55, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Many thanks for your help! :-) MarmadukePercy ( talk) 22:29, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Her Madgesty is back and better than ever. (swoons) AgnosticPreachersKid ( talk) 06:46, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
This is not worth creating a new section for, but You can add
one to your vandalized count, APK. The nice admin that blocked the anon troll for harassment also reverted his edit. BTW, he also got me (purportably I'm in the gay marine corps navy) and three others, as well as vandalizing several articles, a total of 12 edits, all on one day. —
Becksguy (
talk) 18:30, 9 April 2008 (UTC) — PS: Never mind, you already did.
I'm offended also, and none of mine is true either. Now I'm no longer a user page vandalism virgin. — Becksguy ( talk) 18:55, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Just in case you aren't watching that page anymore, check out RLevse's new post. Aleta Sing 03:52, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Sorry I didn't get back to you at all promptly. In discussion thread now archived from your talk page, I had said: "Some such NPS webpages include photos that are NPS-owned, so what you did seems reasonable to try. But for this photo of the Ritcher House, it is identified as NOT a NPS photo, with caption "The Ritcher House is an example of Frank Lloyd Wright's Usonian design. Photo by Jerry Blow, courtesy of Raleigh Historic Districts Commission". If you consult the NPS page that talks about copyright of pictures in its website, i believe it is clear this is NOT public domain. The NPS is clear that it uses, with permission, some copyrighted pictures, and those do not go into the public domain just because the NPS uses them. So, actually, i think this one should be deleted. I am sure you want to do the right thing here, too, though it is unfortunate to have to take a step back."
You had said"I don't live in NC anymore, but I've been asking a few people to take pictures if they can. Some of the captions in these profiles say different things. Some say from the "National Register Collection." Is that allowed to be added to the article?"
My response now: sounds like that would be okay. There may be different ways for them to say it, that they own the negatives, that they have ownership and put it in the public domain. Here is the National Park Service copyright-related policy statement, which I could not find earlier, it is located at http://www.nps.gov/disclaimer.htm and states, under Ownership, that "Information presented on this website, unless otherwise indicated , is considered in the public domain. It may may be distributed or copied as is permitted by the law. Not all information on this website has been created or is owned by the NPS. If you wish to use any non-NPS material, you must seek permission directly from the owning (or holding) sources. NPS shall have the unlimited right to use for any purpose, free of any charge, all information submitted to NPS via this site except those submissions made under separate legal contract. NPS shall be free to use, for any purpose, any ideas, concepts, or techniques contained in information provided to NPS through this site." So they are clear that some of the images they use are NOT public domain, but ones that are suggested to be NPS-owned are public domain. Hope this is helpful. doncram ( talk) 05:15, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I absolutely do not mind the information regarding Taos High School article being edited as long as it is based on FACT. Nor am I possessive of the information. What I do mind is Tomasalazar's CONSTANT editing of information that based on arrogance and disrespect. I've been working with the NMAA and Taos Public Schools to ensure that the information in this article is as accurate as possible in an effort to have this as a reliable source of data. I'm assuming this reference "possessiveness" was also forwarded to Tomasalazar.-- Taostiger ( talk) 23:13, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Don't worry about my edit summaries, it's been my experience and reality with the other user. I also stand by my statements towards this opinion. -- Taostiger ( talk) 01:57, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your UNsolicited input..... The article is taken from the Taos Municipal Schools website. Once again, don't worry about it-- Taostiger ( talk) 04:01, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Once again, don't worry about it. You seem to suffer from the same thing you accuse me of. Why don't share your WIkipedia "expertise" with this article and offer to share instead of deleting. This is the work of a group of students and they're learning, and quite a bit from individuals like you. Let me refer you to ownership.-- Taostiger ( talk) 14:46, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
If this is the case, worth with US instead of deleting the time and effort we've spent on this article. -- Taostiger ( talk) 02:45, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
If the students feel that the connection between the community and school is important to them, let it be. -- Taostiger ( talk) 03:02, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Give us an opportunity to learn instead of making black and white assessments. If this opportunity is not provided we will remove the contributions we've made.-- Taostiger ( talk) 03:09, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
The time and effort spent by the students is their work. They've provided 99% of the information in this article, and this constant negative tells us that this information is not of interest to Wikipedia, so why have it included, right? All your attentive deleting reflects that. -- Taostiger ( talk) 03:20, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Taos, it doesn't matter if 100% of the information was added by you. It's not your decision to remove the information. Once it has been added to this site, it can now be edited by anyone and the information belongs to Wikipedia. AgnosticPreachersKid ( talk) 03:33, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
FYI: WP:ANI#Taos High School Aleta Sing 04:30, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
-- Daniel Case ( talk) 03:28, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Congrats APK. Another fine job. Damn, you are all over the place here. (That's a good thing) — Becksguy ( talk) 08:19, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Hey, I saw that you aren't watching the LGBT project anymore. I had answered your query about whether it was notable enough for an article with a yes, and a bunch of references I found. This might well fall into your too controversial category (given why they are notable in the first place). If you think you might like to collaborate on an article, let me know. If not, that's fine, and I might try to start one anyway. (I'm glad you're back... do what you need to do for yourself!)
In other matters, thanks for reverting the anonymous attack from my page. Aleta Sing 02:29, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
In regards to Rev. M.L. Latta House, do you have any idea why that 3rd link in the reference section is not formatting correctly? AgnosticPreachersKid ( talk) 02:52, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
Check this YouTube vid out, APK. I think you may like it. I did. — Becksguy ( talk) 10:11, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
I should know better than to try and top APK in YouTubeology, but here's one. What does "Furgalicious" mean? On second thought, I don't wanna know. — Becksguy ( talk) 00:17, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
-- Bobet 17:48, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
(swiped from Dekisugi, loves it)
I got this conversation from somebody's talk page when he encountered a troll. Funny, hahaha.
AgnosticPreachersKid ( talk) 14:42, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
LOL Amusing. Aleta Sing 02:55, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi-freaking-larious.... Great find. The best line was "I give up :(" — Becksguy ( talk) 00:51, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
This is for you. Try not to pay attention to the bad dancing and Grandma bedspread. Just enjoy the scenery. AgnosticPreachersKid ( talk) 05:16, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I want it...the Granny bedspread. It looks very comfy. LOL — Becksguy ( talk) 14:47, 3 April 2008 (UTC) Becksguy ( talk) 14:47, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I figured out which comment was yours (there are many clues on your user pages). Sometimes the comments are better than the video. I thought the video was fun to watch, so thanks, even if not my type. BTW, check out some photos I took here in a unpublished Flickr folder [1]. — Becksguy ( talk) 23:54, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Ok, my apologies. He's already been blocked anyway. Sorry about that. Hersfold ( t/ a/ c) 05:25, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
He's gone, or so he
claims on
Aleta's talk page. Note the reference to the "gay mafia." More proof we
it
exists. I
wished him farewell.
AgnosticPreachersKid (
talk) 10:06, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
No clue if it's art. But I know what I like =D -- SatyrTN ( talk / contribs) 03:38, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
I celebrate April Fools year-round. :P AgnosticPreachersKid ( talk) 05:47, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
How about you give it a try, k? Justinm1978 ( talk) 16:39, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
No, not that kind. I mean time to take a break from editing and enjoy another video. IMO, when people annoy you by not minding their own business instead of writing or editing articles, a funny or inspiring video will brighten your day. Marlee Matlin is someone I look up to, not just because she's an accomplished actress, but because of her determination to achieve unimagineable goals. Also, she sure knows how to play a convincing lesbian, no? So when someone gets on your nerves or tells you that you're not capable of doing something, just remember that anything is possible. (who knew I could be serious?) Aww hell, here's something for you horndogs too. AgnosticPreachersKid ( talk) 23:08, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
[Moved from User talk:SatyrTN#I miss NC]
I'm watching your vids now. And here is one for you, as an answer to Fergie's Fergalicious you mentioned before. Nerdz rule! — Becksguy ( talk) 03:21, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
No, but I saw the new jeans ..... :-) Sorry, I got involved in a veeerrrry long phone call. — Becksguy ( talk) 05:22, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Actually they are from an estimate in late 2005 and the albuquerque population that was listed is way off and i was correcting it because iam one of the ACS planning divison commissioners in albuquerque so there is your answer, sorry but i was just letting the people know what is the correct population.
ThomasSalazar chat?! 09:20 MT, 07 April 2008 (UTC)
Well lets just settle it here, you leave it the way it is i think i should know my father is a council member. But nice talking with you :] Peace! ThomasSalazar chat?! 09:30 MT, 07 April 2008 (UTC)
I've made a tiny start at User:Aleta/sandbox#Pullen Memorial Baptist Church. Feel free to do whatever, whenever on it there. Just ignore the signature junk at the bottom of the page. Aleta Sing 02:58, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I've got to call it a night... Aleta Sing 05:32, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
With the bldgs&structures category, shouldn't we talk some about the actua physical building? Do you have anything on that? Aleta Sing 16:12, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Yay, thanks for taking it live. I had thought that we could just move it from my sandbox to mainspace to preserve the history. This is probably fine though. I see that David added the picture. Can I assume that twbuckner (or whatever his/her name is) changed the license? Aleta Sing 13:58, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
I just added the pastor's opposition to the Vietnam War. I'm trying to find a picture of him. It would be fair use since he's dead and considering there was a resolution passed in his honor by the NC General Assembly, it would be appropriate to have a pic of him. AgnosticPreachersKid ( talk) 17:55, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Many thanks for your help! :-) MarmadukePercy ( talk) 22:29, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Her Madgesty is back and better than ever. (swoons) AgnosticPreachersKid ( talk) 06:46, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
This is not worth creating a new section for, but You can add
one to your vandalized count, APK. The nice admin that blocked the anon troll for harassment also reverted his edit. BTW, he also got me (purportably I'm in the gay marine corps navy) and three others, as well as vandalizing several articles, a total of 12 edits, all on one day. —
Becksguy (
talk) 18:30, 9 April 2008 (UTC) — PS: Never mind, you already did.
I'm offended also, and none of mine is true either. Now I'm no longer a user page vandalism virgin. — Becksguy ( talk) 18:55, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Just in case you aren't watching that page anymore, check out RLevse's new post. Aleta Sing 03:52, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Sorry I didn't get back to you at all promptly. In discussion thread now archived from your talk page, I had said: "Some such NPS webpages include photos that are NPS-owned, so what you did seems reasonable to try. But for this photo of the Ritcher House, it is identified as NOT a NPS photo, with caption "The Ritcher House is an example of Frank Lloyd Wright's Usonian design. Photo by Jerry Blow, courtesy of Raleigh Historic Districts Commission". If you consult the NPS page that talks about copyright of pictures in its website, i believe it is clear this is NOT public domain. The NPS is clear that it uses, with permission, some copyrighted pictures, and those do not go into the public domain just because the NPS uses them. So, actually, i think this one should be deleted. I am sure you want to do the right thing here, too, though it is unfortunate to have to take a step back."
You had said"I don't live in NC anymore, but I've been asking a few people to take pictures if they can. Some of the captions in these profiles say different things. Some say from the "National Register Collection." Is that allowed to be added to the article?"
My response now: sounds like that would be okay. There may be different ways for them to say it, that they own the negatives, that they have ownership and put it in the public domain. Here is the National Park Service copyright-related policy statement, which I could not find earlier, it is located at http://www.nps.gov/disclaimer.htm and states, under Ownership, that "Information presented on this website, unless otherwise indicated , is considered in the public domain. It may may be distributed or copied as is permitted by the law. Not all information on this website has been created or is owned by the NPS. If you wish to use any non-NPS material, you must seek permission directly from the owning (or holding) sources. NPS shall have the unlimited right to use for any purpose, free of any charge, all information submitted to NPS via this site except those submissions made under separate legal contract. NPS shall be free to use, for any purpose, any ideas, concepts, or techniques contained in information provided to NPS through this site." So they are clear that some of the images they use are NOT public domain, but ones that are suggested to be NPS-owned are public domain. Hope this is helpful. doncram ( talk) 05:15, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I absolutely do not mind the information regarding Taos High School article being edited as long as it is based on FACT. Nor am I possessive of the information. What I do mind is Tomasalazar's CONSTANT editing of information that based on arrogance and disrespect. I've been working with the NMAA and Taos Public Schools to ensure that the information in this article is as accurate as possible in an effort to have this as a reliable source of data. I'm assuming this reference "possessiveness" was also forwarded to Tomasalazar.-- Taostiger ( talk) 23:13, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Don't worry about my edit summaries, it's been my experience and reality with the other user. I also stand by my statements towards this opinion. -- Taostiger ( talk) 01:57, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your UNsolicited input..... The article is taken from the Taos Municipal Schools website. Once again, don't worry about it-- Taostiger ( talk) 04:01, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Once again, don't worry about it. You seem to suffer from the same thing you accuse me of. Why don't share your WIkipedia "expertise" with this article and offer to share instead of deleting. This is the work of a group of students and they're learning, and quite a bit from individuals like you. Let me refer you to ownership.-- Taostiger ( talk) 14:46, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
If this is the case, worth with US instead of deleting the time and effort we've spent on this article. -- Taostiger ( talk) 02:45, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
If the students feel that the connection between the community and school is important to them, let it be. -- Taostiger ( talk) 03:02, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Give us an opportunity to learn instead of making black and white assessments. If this opportunity is not provided we will remove the contributions we've made.-- Taostiger ( talk) 03:09, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
The time and effort spent by the students is their work. They've provided 99% of the information in this article, and this constant negative tells us that this information is not of interest to Wikipedia, so why have it included, right? All your attentive deleting reflects that. -- Taostiger ( talk) 03:20, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Taos, it doesn't matter if 100% of the information was added by you. It's not your decision to remove the information. Once it has been added to this site, it can now be edited by anyone and the information belongs to Wikipedia. AgnosticPreachersKid ( talk) 03:33, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
FYI: WP:ANI#Taos High School Aleta Sing 04:30, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
-- Daniel Case ( talk) 03:28, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Congrats APK. Another fine job. Damn, you are all over the place here. (That's a good thing) — Becksguy ( talk) 08:19, 10 April 2008 (UTC)