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Happy editing! I dream of horses If you reply here, please ping me by adding {{U|I dream of horses}} to your message ( talk to me) ( My edits) @ 01:46, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
Hello. Regarding your removal of very large sections of referenced content from the article entitled Naeraberg, I can see there may well be some confusion over which content is applicable to which vessel. You could well be right. However, no-one is entitled to blank content in the way that you have without first raising the matter on the article's talk page. For this reason I am about to revert your blanking of that content again. Because your actions are based (at this moment in time) on your opinions (and right now it doesn't matter whether you are right or wrong in that) I am regarding your actions as tantamount to vandalism (as defined by Wikipedia, not society at large). So, if you remove that content again you are very likely to get blocked from editing, irrespective of whether you are right or wrong. I am beginning to think you're right to be concerned - it's just that you've gone about dealing with it in totally the wrong way. I am going to ping @ Longhair:, one of our admins who has made a large number of contributions to this particular page. Being an admin he has the ability to block both you and me for what we call "edit warring", but I am going to ask him to discuss with you the merits of your concerns. Please be prepared to support those concerns with links to vessel name pages or other sources.
I admit that to my totally untrained eye this link to Naeraberg (aka Dirk Diederik) and this to Dirk Dirk (aka Naeraberg) do relate to different sized and aged vessels. So you are probably right in your concerns about whether there has been an innocent mix up in stories. But, I repeat, deleting stuff in this way is not acceptable. Please don't blank the page again when I shortly restore it - it will do no-one any harm to have all this information displayed so that editors (including you) can discuss and help sort out any misunderstanding on the talk page. I will now revert your content deletion and leave a message on the article talk page. I have, out of good faith, removed the formal warning notice I left on your page. Please see this rule on edit warring to which, I'm afraid you are sailing very close to the wind in contravening and getting blocked if you delete content another time. Thanks for your concerns, once again. I'm sure your right about there being a mix-up, but please, let's sort this out in a reasonable way with all the fact put before everyone, rather than facing a blank page which nobody can fathom out. Hoping this makes sense, Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes ( talk) 02:28, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
Update: After posting this note I subsequently realised the WP:AFD request referred to below did not come from this IP address (my bad), but from User:86.187.172.208. From the style of editing history to this article, however, I conclude this to be one and the same person, using a dynamic IP address.
Hello again. I'm afraid I am at a complete loss to understand what you're trying to achieve by your actions at the Naeraberg page. Could you help me by explaining, as I must be missing something? You seem to have unilaterally taken an article about a notable ship, removed all notable content on the grounds that information on two similarly named vessels had been conflated, then added uncited content of your own, and have now proposed the page for deletion on the grounds of its non-notability.
Tell me if I'm wrong, but as I understand the situation:
This leaves me to conclude one of four things:
I'd welcome you telling me which one seems most likely. I do accept that the original article would have benefited from greater clarity, but this in no way justifies your disruptive actions in my opinion. I'm quite happy for this to go to AFD, but I would be !voting snow keep, citing the evidence given above. Either way, I'm thinking that a revert back to its original state and possibly a request for a degree of page protection might be in order to encourage proper engagement to discuss content concerns, and at a pace that suits all editors, not just yours. Kind regards from the UK, Nick Moyes ( talk) 15:28, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
Please be aware there has been disruptive editing on this article and I strongly recommend using the reading and using the talk page to achieve consensus before editing the Naeraberg article. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 23:00, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
Djm-leighpark ( talk) 23:00, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at
Leigh Griffiths. Your edits appear to constitute
vandalism and have been
reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the
sandbox. Repeated vandalism may result in the
loss of editing privileges. Thank you.
Thegreatluigi (
talk)
21:52, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
Please stop your
disruptive editing. If you continue to
vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at
Leigh Griffiths, you may be
blocked from editing.
Thegreatluigi (
talk)
21:54, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
You may be
blocked from editing without further warning the next time you
vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at
Leigh Griffiths.
Your edits have been automatically marked as
vandalism and have been automatically
reverted. The following is the log entry regarding this vandalism:
Leigh Griffiths was
changed by
86.187.172.17
(u)
(t) ANN scored at 0.885331 on 2018-11-27T22:00:40+00:00
Thank you. ClueBot NG ( talk) 22:00, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
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Welcome!
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Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions so far. I hope you like the place and decide to stay.
Here are some links to pages you may find useful:
You don't have to log in to read or edit articles on Wikipedia, but if you wish to acquire additional privileges, you can simply create a named account. It's free, requires no personal information, and lets you:
If you edit without using a named account, your IP address (86.187.172.17) is used to identify you instead.
I hope that you, as a Wikipedian, decide to continue contributing to our project: an encyclopedia of human knowledge that anyone can edit. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, or you can to ask for help on your talk page, and a volunteer should respond shortly. We also have an intuitive guide on editing if you're interested. By the way, please make sure to sign and date your talk page comments with four tildes (~~~~).
Happy editing! I dream of horses If you reply here, please ping me by adding {{U|I dream of horses}} to your message ( talk to me) ( My edits) @ 01:46, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
Hello. Regarding your removal of very large sections of referenced content from the article entitled Naeraberg, I can see there may well be some confusion over which content is applicable to which vessel. You could well be right. However, no-one is entitled to blank content in the way that you have without first raising the matter on the article's talk page. For this reason I am about to revert your blanking of that content again. Because your actions are based (at this moment in time) on your opinions (and right now it doesn't matter whether you are right or wrong in that) I am regarding your actions as tantamount to vandalism (as defined by Wikipedia, not society at large). So, if you remove that content again you are very likely to get blocked from editing, irrespective of whether you are right or wrong. I am beginning to think you're right to be concerned - it's just that you've gone about dealing with it in totally the wrong way. I am going to ping @ Longhair:, one of our admins who has made a large number of contributions to this particular page. Being an admin he has the ability to block both you and me for what we call "edit warring", but I am going to ask him to discuss with you the merits of your concerns. Please be prepared to support those concerns with links to vessel name pages or other sources.
I admit that to my totally untrained eye this link to Naeraberg (aka Dirk Diederik) and this to Dirk Dirk (aka Naeraberg) do relate to different sized and aged vessels. So you are probably right in your concerns about whether there has been an innocent mix up in stories. But, I repeat, deleting stuff in this way is not acceptable. Please don't blank the page again when I shortly restore it - it will do no-one any harm to have all this information displayed so that editors (including you) can discuss and help sort out any misunderstanding on the talk page. I will now revert your content deletion and leave a message on the article talk page. I have, out of good faith, removed the formal warning notice I left on your page. Please see this rule on edit warring to which, I'm afraid you are sailing very close to the wind in contravening and getting blocked if you delete content another time. Thanks for your concerns, once again. I'm sure your right about there being a mix-up, but please, let's sort this out in a reasonable way with all the fact put before everyone, rather than facing a blank page which nobody can fathom out. Hoping this makes sense, Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes ( talk) 02:28, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
Update: After posting this note I subsequently realised the WP:AFD request referred to below did not come from this IP address (my bad), but from User:86.187.172.208. From the style of editing history to this article, however, I conclude this to be one and the same person, using a dynamic IP address.
Hello again. I'm afraid I am at a complete loss to understand what you're trying to achieve by your actions at the Naeraberg page. Could you help me by explaining, as I must be missing something? You seem to have unilaterally taken an article about a notable ship, removed all notable content on the grounds that information on two similarly named vessels had been conflated, then added uncited content of your own, and have now proposed the page for deletion on the grounds of its non-notability.
Tell me if I'm wrong, but as I understand the situation:
This leaves me to conclude one of four things:
I'd welcome you telling me which one seems most likely. I do accept that the original article would have benefited from greater clarity, but this in no way justifies your disruptive actions in my opinion. I'm quite happy for this to go to AFD, but I would be !voting snow keep, citing the evidence given above. Either way, I'm thinking that a revert back to its original state and possibly a request for a degree of page protection might be in order to encourage proper engagement to discuss content concerns, and at a pace that suits all editors, not just yours. Kind regards from the UK, Nick Moyes ( talk) 15:28, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
Please be aware there has been disruptive editing on this article and I strongly recommend using the reading and using the talk page to achieve consensus before editing the Naeraberg article. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark ( talk) 23:00, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
Djm-leighpark ( talk) 23:00, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at
Leigh Griffiths. Your edits appear to constitute
vandalism and have been
reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the
sandbox. Repeated vandalism may result in the
loss of editing privileges. Thank you.
Thegreatluigi (
talk)
21:52, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
Please stop your
disruptive editing. If you continue to
vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at
Leigh Griffiths, you may be
blocked from editing.
Thegreatluigi (
talk)
21:54, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
You may be
blocked from editing without further warning the next time you
vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at
Leigh Griffiths.
Your edits have been automatically marked as
vandalism and have been automatically
reverted. The following is the log entry regarding this vandalism:
Leigh Griffiths was
changed by
86.187.172.17
(u)
(t) ANN scored at 0.885331 on 2018-11-27T22:00:40+00:00
Thank you. ClueBot NG ( talk) 22:00, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
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IP address. Many IP addresses change periodically, and are often shared by several users. If you are an IP user, you may
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