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January 2021

Information icon Hello, I'm Susmuffin. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Glina, Croatia have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse. Susmuffin  Talk 23:25, 4 January 2021 (UTC) reply

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NPOV and BRD on Glina, Croatia

Hi there, I'm Roxy. Your recent contributions to Glina, Croatia have been reverted because they introduce language which does not adhere to the neutral point of view (NPOV). As an encyclopedia, Wikipedia describes subjects in a neutral manner, without providing any of its own analysis or judgements. This means editors are very cautious about the use of loaded or value-laden language, unless that language appears in a majority of reliable secondary sources.

Your edit describes the captured territory as "an integral part of Croatia". This carries the implicit judgement that the town's capture was just and good, and that it rightfully ought to be be under Croatian control. You and I may certainly believe this to be the case, but this is, after all, an opinion. Instead, we simply describe the territory as "captured" because it neutrally describes what "is" rather than what "ought to be".

It's good to edit BOLDly, but if another editor reverts your decision, you should discuss the changes on the article's Talk page and attempt to reach a consensus. This is called the BOLD, revert, discuss cycle (BRD). Repeatedly reintroducing/reverting changes that another editor disagrees with is called an edit war, and is strongly discouraged.

I hope this explanation helps, and I look forward to your continued contributions! RoxySaunders ( talk) 00:01, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply

A warning: you have exceeded the WP:3RR on the article Glina, Croatia. In this case, the text you are inserting serves to clutter the article and make the point less clear. The terminology "capture" makes it clear that this was a military operation, and additionally does not push the POV that it is an integral part of Croatia, which your text does. Exceeding the WP:3RR can result in a block. Instead of edit warring and exceeding the WP:3RR, you may want to discuss your changes on the article talk page and implement an edit guided by consensus. Hashs talk 01:07, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply

So it was returned with military action to an integral part of Croatia. What is misspelled here? 78.2.150.28 ( talk) 01:13, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply

I would like to bring to your attention the discussion at Talk:Glina, Croatia. You have violated 3RR and you may be blocked for edit warring; attempting to communicate here may make that less likely. I have left your changes for now. Hashs talk 01:35, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply


From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


January 2021

Information icon Hello, I'm Susmuffin. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Glina, Croatia have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse. Susmuffin  Talk 23:25, 4 January 2021 (UTC) reply

If this is a shared IP address, and you did not make the edits referred to above, consider creating an account for yourself or logging in with an existing account so that you can avoid further irrelevant notices.

NPOV and BRD on Glina, Croatia

Hi there, I'm Roxy. Your recent contributions to Glina, Croatia have been reverted because they introduce language which does not adhere to the neutral point of view (NPOV). As an encyclopedia, Wikipedia describes subjects in a neutral manner, without providing any of its own analysis or judgements. This means editors are very cautious about the use of loaded or value-laden language, unless that language appears in a majority of reliable secondary sources.

Your edit describes the captured territory as "an integral part of Croatia". This carries the implicit judgement that the town's capture was just and good, and that it rightfully ought to be be under Croatian control. You and I may certainly believe this to be the case, but this is, after all, an opinion. Instead, we simply describe the territory as "captured" because it neutrally describes what "is" rather than what "ought to be".

It's good to edit BOLDly, but if another editor reverts your decision, you should discuss the changes on the article's Talk page and attempt to reach a consensus. This is called the BOLD, revert, discuss cycle (BRD). Repeatedly reintroducing/reverting changes that another editor disagrees with is called an edit war, and is strongly discouraged.

I hope this explanation helps, and I look forward to your continued contributions! RoxySaunders ( talk) 00:01, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply

A warning: you have exceeded the WP:3RR on the article Glina, Croatia. In this case, the text you are inserting serves to clutter the article and make the point less clear. The terminology "capture" makes it clear that this was a military operation, and additionally does not push the POV that it is an integral part of Croatia, which your text does. Exceeding the WP:3RR can result in a block. Instead of edit warring and exceeding the WP:3RR, you may want to discuss your changes on the article talk page and implement an edit guided by consensus. Hashs talk 01:07, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply

So it was returned with military action to an integral part of Croatia. What is misspelled here? 78.2.150.28 ( talk) 01:13, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply

I would like to bring to your attention the discussion at Talk:Glina, Croatia. You have violated 3RR and you may be blocked for edit warring; attempting to communicate here may make that less likely. I have left your changes for now. Hashs talk 01:35, 5 January 2021 (UTC) reply



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