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Hi, I updated the 57 fleet data to the latest information, I can't link to a source but I do work for Porterbrook who own a large portion of the fleet 2A02:C7C:449F:2E00:F4CF:CBAF:DD63:110C ( talk) 14:37, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- That doesn't matter - if you can't link to a source, then it's nothing more than
original research, and it doesn't belong on Wikipedia.
Danners430 (
talk) 14:38, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, I don't know how to add source info, but this article tells you about the /3's transferring to GBRf, is this enough info?
- www.everand.com/article/639821039/Gb-Railfreight-To-Take-On-Class-57-3s
DJAZS (
talk) 14:53, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- That article says they are due to change operator, not that they have - see WP:CRYSTAL.
- I would suggest taking this to the article talk page now, as you have already broken the 3 revert rule, for which you could be blocked.
- As for how to write sources, see Help:Referencing for beginners. Danners430 ( talk) 14:57, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
As you removed the 69011 livery information, I note that I have readded it noting a video in which the unit appears. The livery appears by all accounts to match that of 69008 except for the number. I do not have access to UK magazines and don't know if we want to source the Youtube video, so a better source can be added later to make it all proper. The video does confirm the edit. CycloneGU ( talk) 23:25, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- YouTube is not a reliable source. If there isn't a reliable source that can be used, then the information doesn't belong on Wikipedia - see WP:TRUTH Danners430 ( talk) 05:55, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- I did not say there is NOT a reliable source - just that I do not know what it would be. Also, how is a visual video of the train going by in its livery not a valid source? It very clearly shows the livery right there. There are multiple videos showing it in this livery. I mean, hypothetically, a reliable source could publish incorrect information and it sounds like you would prefer to use that incorrect information over what the eyes can see in such a circumstance.
CycloneGU (
talk) 22:58, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- YouTube videos generally fall under user generated content, which mean they are not reliable sources. As for your assertion of preferring incorrect information - I prefer to follow Wikipedia policy, one of which is verifiability not truth. Danners430 ( talk) 23:04, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- I did not say there is NOT a reliable source - just that I do not know what it would be. Also, how is a visual video of the train going by in its livery not a valid source? It very clearly shows the livery right there. There are multiple videos showing it in this livery. I mean, hypothetically, a reliable source could publish incorrect information and it sounds like you would prefer to use that incorrect information over what the eyes can see in such a circumstance.
CycloneGU (
talk) 22:58, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
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Hi, I updated the 57 fleet data to the latest information, I can't link to a source but I do work for Porterbrook who own a large portion of the fleet 2A02:C7C:449F:2E00:F4CF:CBAF:DD63:110C ( talk) 14:37, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- That doesn't matter - if you can't link to a source, then it's nothing more than
original research, and it doesn't belong on Wikipedia.
Danners430 (
talk) 14:38, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, I don't know how to add source info, but this article tells you about the /3's transferring to GBRf, is this enough info?
- www.everand.com/article/639821039/Gb-Railfreight-To-Take-On-Class-57-3s
DJAZS (
talk) 14:53, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- That article says they are due to change operator, not that they have - see WP:CRYSTAL.
- I would suggest taking this to the article talk page now, as you have already broken the 3 revert rule, for which you could be blocked.
- As for how to write sources, see Help:Referencing for beginners. Danners430 ( talk) 14:57, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
As you removed the 69011 livery information, I note that I have readded it noting a video in which the unit appears. The livery appears by all accounts to match that of 69008 except for the number. I do not have access to UK magazines and don't know if we want to source the Youtube video, so a better source can be added later to make it all proper. The video does confirm the edit. CycloneGU ( talk) 23:25, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- YouTube is not a reliable source. If there isn't a reliable source that can be used, then the information doesn't belong on Wikipedia - see WP:TRUTH Danners430 ( talk) 05:55, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- I did not say there is NOT a reliable source - just that I do not know what it would be. Also, how is a visual video of the train going by in its livery not a valid source? It very clearly shows the livery right there. There are multiple videos showing it in this livery. I mean, hypothetically, a reliable source could publish incorrect information and it sounds like you would prefer to use that incorrect information over what the eyes can see in such a circumstance.
CycloneGU (
talk) 22:58, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- YouTube videos generally fall under user generated content, which mean they are not reliable sources. As for your assertion of preferring incorrect information - I prefer to follow Wikipedia policy, one of which is verifiability not truth. Danners430 ( talk) 23:04, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- I did not say there is NOT a reliable source - just that I do not know what it would be. Also, how is a visual video of the train going by in its livery not a valid source? It very clearly shows the livery right there. There are multiple videos showing it in this livery. I mean, hypothetically, a reliable source could publish incorrect information and it sounds like you would prefer to use that incorrect information over what the eyes can see in such a circumstance.
CycloneGU (
talk) 22:58, 30 April 2024 (UTC)