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1 Bias 2007-11-14 22:59 2007-11-14 22:59 1 535 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
2 Swinging Unknown Unknown Unknown 737 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
3 Other exercises? Unknown Unknown Unknown 271 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
4 Change to introductory sentence Unknown Unknown Unknown 1213 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
5 Criticism section - Theory regarding the pathogenesis of refractive errors 2006-02-07 21:59 2006-02-07 21:59 1 2063 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
6 Looking at the sun isn't so dangerous. 2006-01-09 20:13 2006-01-12 21:36 2 844 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
7 Removing a section pending sources 2006-02-06 11:38 2007-01-02 23:36 2 2915 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
8 Unsourced material in Bates method 2006-02-06 11:40 2006-02-08 19:28 12 15094 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
9 False logic regarding what is relevant to Bates method 2006-02-08 22:11 2006-02-10 07:11 9 11256 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
10 Changes to the section entitled "The modern debate - myopia is not as irreversible as was thought" 2006-02-10 07:13 2006-02-13 05:30 11 9150 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
11 Re-organising article 2006-02-10 12:39 2006-02-12 06:45 10 6399 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
12 Citing sources 2006-02-11 00:23 2006-02-11 15:40 4 2960 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
13 Categories. Quackery, ophthalmology are BOTH valid 2006-02-12 01:06 2006-12-21 14:52 4 1690 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
14 Published papers by Bates? 2006-02-12 03:16 2006-02-12 07:57 2 877 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
15 Use of 'see also' 2006-02-12 12:48 2006-02-12 17:46 2 1367 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
16 remarks and changes 2006-02-12 23:55 2006-02-12 23:55 1 1727 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
17 Pathogenesis and control of myopia: the modern "debate" 2006-05-12 22:56 2006-05-12 22:56 1 3539 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
18 Explanation of reversions of three recent edits 2006-06-05 17:03 2006-06-05 17:03 1 2861 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
19 General 2006-06-07 04:15 2006-06-07 04:15 1 1170 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
20 Comment 2006-06-29 05:57 2006-06-30 13:42 6 4664 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
21 Natural vision improvement 2006-09-20 20:44 2006-09-21 00:23 2 2282 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
22 Material removed 2006-10-16 20:46 2006-10-16 21:07 2 1444 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
23 See clearly method or reference 23 versus 25 2007-01-07 15:17 2007-02-09 21:39 2 1109 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
24 disadvantages to eyeglasses 2007-01-07 15:17 2007-01-07 15:17 1 664 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
25 Citations 2007-01-04 16:01 2007-01-04 16:01 1 157 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
1 2 experiments 2007-01-07 15:49 2007-02-09 21:34 4 3533 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
2 book citation should stay original 2007-02-09 21:17 2007-02-12 15:46 4 3149 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
3 The mechanism of accommodation for older people who have normal sight ? 2007-02-19 14:29 2007-02-19 14:29 1 3274 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
4 Mediation request 2007-02-23 07:03 2007-02-23 07:03 1 168 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
5 Culled links 2007-04-12 13:30 2007-04-24 14:21 5 2996 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
6 Improving eyesight "naturally" 2007-04-23 20:38 2007-04-24 13:50 2 2678 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
7 Reply 2007-05-01 22:14 2007-05-02 15:55 3 8629 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
8 Reply : 2007-05-02 20:45 2007-05-03 13:20 2 2190 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
9 Reply 2007-05-08 20:30 2007-05-09 19:16 2 389 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
10 Keep going, you're almost in breach of 3RR 2007-07-09 16:30 2007-07-09 16:30 1 339 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
11 External links 2007-07-09 22:25 2007-07-16 13:51 4 4967 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
12 Bates' technique 2007-07-24 12:12 2007-07-28 20:35 6 2844 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
13 Famousdog And / or AED ( Both Eye Doctors ) 2007-09-16 20:16 2007-09-17 15:59 2 1505 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
14 Fake argument removal 2007-09-27 21:17 2007-10-02 13:21 10 3620 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
15 See Clearly Method Article Corrections Deleted 2007-10-04 22:37 2007-10-05 03:59 2 9313 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
16 For the ones unaware AED, famousdog, Mastcel & SMBeresford might be one person. 2007-10-07 12:40 2007-10-10 13:05 3 1579 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
17 External links 2007-10-19 13:42 2007-10-19 13:42 1 350 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
18 Monkeys 2007-10-26 13:25 2007-10-26 13:25 1 981 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
19 Recent unusual activity 2007-11-28 21:15 2007-11-28 21:15 1 798 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
20 For the objective reader part 1 of x 2007-12-08 17:31 2008-01-08 20:33 5 2791 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
21 The "fundamental principle" section 2007-12-13 16:44 2007-12-13 16:44 1 722 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
22 For the objective reader part 2 of x 2007-12-22 07:22 2007-12-22 07:22 1 847 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
23 For the objective reader part 3 of x Unknown Unknown Unknown 1007 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
24 For the skeptic reader Unknown Unknown Unknown 478 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
25 For the objective reader part 4 of x Unknown Unknown Unknown 362 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
26 For the skeptic Unknown Unknown Unknown 252 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
27 For the objective reader part 5 of x 2007-12-22 12:09 2007-12-22 12:09 1 277 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
28 For the skeptic Unknown Unknown Unknown 112 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
29 For the objective reader part 6 of x 2007-12-29 20:01 2007-12-29 20:01 1 806 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
30 For the objective reader part 8 of x 2007-12-30 08:47 2007-12-30 08:47 1 174 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
31 For the objective reader part 9 of x 2007-12-30 11:44 2007-12-30 16:39 2 1326 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
32 For the objective reader part 10 of x. 2007-12-30 20:36 2007-12-30 20:36 1 2725 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
33 2 cases which should be discussed 2007-12-31 17:45 2008-01-01 11:53 3 2850 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
34 For the objective reader part 11 of x 2008-01-01 20:16 2008-01-02 05:25 2 5612 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
35 For the objective reader part 13 of x 2008-03-21 20:53 2008-03-21 20:53 1 676 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
36 For the objective reader part 13 of x #2 2008-03-23 15:14 2008-03-25 02:31 3 2163 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
37 From the wikipedia article contact lens / contacts 2008-04-14 15:45 2008-04-19 17:31 5 2123 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
38 Open proxies 2008-01-02 05:06 2008-01-05 21:12 3 1914 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
39 Consensus? 2008-01-07 21:25 2008-01-07 21:27 2 1221 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
40 Mediation case about introduction 2008-01-09 20:46 2008-01-10 22:35 3 3772 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
41 The Reason : NPOV giving objective referenced information 2008-01-09 21:56 2008-01-10 19:44 3 3665 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
42 Don’t be fooled 2008-01-11 21:02 2008-01-12 13:37 3 3900 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
43 RfC: Dispute about Introduction represent old 1920 Batesmethod or the Batesmethod of today 2008-01-12 15:38 2008-01-14 06:25 9 8650 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
1 Changes to chapter headings and off-topic discussion of retinal detachment 2008-01-22 21:20 2008-01-22 21:33 2 1324 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
2 Central fixation 2008-01-28 14:52 2008-01-28 14:52 1 431 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
3 Shifting and Swinging 2008-01-29 12:43 2008-01-31 19:58 5 4037 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
4 Better Eyesight Magazine link 2008-01-30 01:17 2008-02-04 20:11 25 9130 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
5 Book vs Further reading 2008-01-30 17:40 2008-01-30 17:56 2 591 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
6 AfD 2008-02-02 23:18 2008-02-04 15:13 2 684 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
7 NPOV 2008-02-04 16:03 2008-02-04 19:36 3 1734 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
8 "Claimed success" section 2008-02-04 19:26 2008-04-02 00:49 5 1685 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
9 Length of article 2008-02-06 20:58 2008-02-07 14:17 5 2200 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
10 Incorporation of Criticisms section into main text 2008-02-08 14:09 2008-02-11 14:53 6 2876 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
11 Clear "flashes" 2008-02-13 20:18 2008-02-18 14:40 4 2028 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
12 NPOV and length concerns 2008-02-14 03:45 2008-03-05 01:19 8 3281 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
13 Amblyopia and glasses 2008-02-19 15:47 2008-02-20 14:07 4 1869 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
14 NPOV again 2008-03-05 13:56 2008-03-08 02:56 14 4185 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
15 Potential third-party sources 2008-03-08 04:17 2008-03-10 02:47 3 1856 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
16 Suggested cleanup per WP:NPOV, WP:FRINGE, and WP:OR 2008-03-10 03:35 2008-03-21 04:32 14 7590 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
17 Removal of definition Bates method 2008-03-21 20:53 2008-03-21 20:53 1 1091 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
18 Proposed merge with William Bates 2008-03-23 17:50 2008-03-25 02:34 17 7309 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
19 A Modest Proposal 2008-03-28 17:30 2008-04-07 03:50 2 1213 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
20 Sunning open / closed eyelids ridiculing 2008-04-06 13:56 2008-05-31 13:12 4 2766 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
21 Book and report 2008-03-28 18:19 2008-04-23 08:20 5 3554 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
22 "Modern Variants" section 2008-04-08 06:28 2008-04-08 17:51 4 2322 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
23 Other methods section 2008-04-09 07:53 2008-04-09 20:04 2 1028 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
24 Disputed sources 2008-04-13 04:20 2008-05-21 19:21 20 8865 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
25 Modern Variants? 2008-04-13 16:45 2008-05-11 22:08 8 3731 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
26 Huxley and relapses 2008-04-19 19:15 2008-04-19 19:15 1 556 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
27 Research 2008-04-26 17:42 2008-04-30 13:42 6 9901 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
28 "Tense" eye 2008-04-30 13:20 2008-04-30 13:20 1 333 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
29 Myopia hereditary? 2008-04-30 13:47 2008-04-30 17:42 2 3618 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
30 More on the hereditary of myopia 2008-05-01 16:08 2008-05-01 16:08 1 1239 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
31 Hereditary of myopia and the worldwideweb 2008-05-01 08:19 2008-05-01 13:34 2 4422 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
32 Discusses adding hereditary paragraph 2008-05-01 16:09 2008-05-06 20:39 13 5389 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
33 Please use descriptive section titles 2008-05-01 16:35 2008-05-06 20:23 7 2539 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
34 Booklist ? 2008-05-09 22:32 2008-05-29 13:25 5 2324 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
35 Modern Bates method, See clearly method, Natural vision improvement 2008-05-17 16:10 2008-05-20 20:36 8 7958 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
1 Warning template 2008-04-24 14:24 2008-06-04 01:37 28 12358 Talk:Bates method/Archive 4
2 Discussion of accommodation 2008-05-05 00:27 2008-06-01 19:02 4 2133 Talk:Bates method/Archive 4
3 Warning template (again) 2008-06-18 13:53 2008-07-06 17:09 18 10965 Talk:Bates method/Archive 4
4 External link has 10 links to commercial sites 2007-07-09 22:25 2008-07-28 03:15 25 13891 Talk:Bates method/Archive 4
5 Article now based on independent sources 2008-07-09 09:12 2008-07-22 18:22 8 3781 Talk:Bates method/Archive 4
6 Aldous Huxley 2008-07-10 17:19 2008-07-14 01:26 9 6854 Talk:Bates method/Archive 4
7 Synthesized and original criticism 2008-07-24 18:27 2008-08-04 14:29 11 5453 Talk:Bates method/Archive 4
8 Section tags 2008-08-04 17:08 2008-08-06 13:52 21 9889 Talk:Bates method/Archive 4
9 Time to remove poor sources 2008-08-06 02:13 2008-08-11 16:56 20 10355 Talk:Bates method/Archive 4
10 Using quotes from Bates 2008-01-14 06:25 2008-08-16 21:48 6 3632 Talk:Bates method/Archive 4
11 Shifting and Swinging 2008-08-16 04:01 2008-09-02 05:53 12 4857 Talk:Bates method/Archive 4
12 NPOV and OR are being ignored 2008-08-17 15:11 2008-08-24 20:45 50 23647 Talk:Bates method/Archive 4
13 Flashing 2008-08-21 16:26 2008-08-22 18:17 7 2476 Talk:Bates method/Archive 4
14 Was Bates an Ophthalmologist? 2008-08-24 01:38 2008-08-27 01:07 6 3127 Talk:Bates method/Archive 4
15 Sunning/solar retinopathy 2008-08-27 00:39 2008-08-27 02:25 2 251 Talk:Bates method/Archive 4
16 Some objective factual information of the past and now 2008-09-07 09:12 2008-09-09 08:46 8 4451 Talk:Bates method/Archive 4
1 External links 2008-08-02 16:54 2008-12-18 20:14 31 22127 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
2 List of poor sources 2008-08-12 15:21 2008-10-17 00:18 30 9665 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
3 Change title from Bates Method into Bates method / Natural Vision improvement 2008-08-17 16:32 2008-09-03 19:12 20 11641 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
4 Elwin Marg was an optometrist ! 2008-08-21 21:25 2008-09-09 17:54 20 9923 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
5 contact lens-like effect of moisture on the eye 2008-08-29 08:21 2008-08-29 15:07 3 562 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
6 Scientific evidence that irreversible changes in the shape of the eyeball cause refractive errors 2008-09-02 15:25 2008-09-08 15:32 16 10145 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
7 Mainstream view 2008-09-04 12:56 2008-09-08 13:57 32 16265 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
8 Brain training 2008-09-04 18:16 2008-09-10 13:29 2 1324 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
9 See Clearly Method 2008-09-05 13:07 2008-09-07 21:55 17 9042 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
10 A note on the Huxley incident 2008-09-07 02:20 2008-09-08 14:09 3 3053 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
11 References Unknown Unknown Unknown 16 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
12 RFC Nr : 1 change of title Bates method into Bates method / Natural Vision improvement 2008-09-07 08:55 2008-10-08 21:23 9 4995 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
13 RFC Nr : 2 Removal of sourced quotes 2008-09-07 18:39 2008-10-03 12:09 23 16560 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
14 "After Bates" section 2008-09-08 15:41 2008-09-17 20:53 22 11539 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
15 Books 2008-09-17 20:14 2008-09-17 20:14 1 1524 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
16 Dead-end 2008-09-16 11:12 2008-09-16 17:01 2 1416 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
17 Information of questionable importance 2008-09-21 21:39 2008-10-04 23:24 14 6317 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
18 Positive independent source? 2008-10-02 18:34 2008-10-04 08:53 6 2224 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
19 Second Generation Bates versus Classic Bates method 2008-10-04 17:55 2008-10-04 21:07 2 573 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
20 Biofeedback training 2008-10-05 20:21 2008-10-05 21:40 2 2330 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
21 Article images? 2008-10-06 18:29 2008-12-15 21:57 8 4964 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
22 RFC nr : 3 removal of Woods research results 2008-10-07 21:16 2008-11-14 23:44 38 19267 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
23 Resources which would be helpful to have online 2008-10-27 11:24 2008-10-27 13:56 5 2148 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
24 Dishonest wikilinks 2008-10-21 15:20 2008-10-21 15:20 1 883 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
25 "Original research to promote a fringe point of view" 2008-10-22 19:02 2008-10-22 20:07 3 1492 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
26 GA Nom 2008-10-27 01:42 2008-10-27 02:03 2 1042 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
27 Tags 2008-10-28 15:53 2008-11-01 23:49 16 6819 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
28 Impartial Tone 2008-11-08 18:50 2008-11-28 20:51 21 12797 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
29 Forum shopping 2008-11-22 14:24 2008-11-22 14:24 1 378 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
30 Further reading / External links 2008-11-26 19:03 2008-11-26 21:11 2 758 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
31 Edit by Zappernapper 2008-12-01 02:42 2008-12-03 22:47 5 3996 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
32 Informal review 2008-12-05 22:43 2009-01-12 19:54 24 29744 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
33 Comments on Informal Review 2008-08-06 13:52 2008-12-06 22:21 8 8545 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
34 Pollack and Gardner as sources 2008-12-06 23:41 2008-12-07 00:58 2 2010 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
35 Proposal to remove "Ophthalmological Research" section 2008-12-08 21:28 2008-12-20 00:41 17 9611 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
36 Farewell to the Woods Report 2008-12-10 17:56 2008-12-22 12:08 8 4797 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
37 Primary sources tag 2008-12-20 20:15 2008-12-31 15:34 14 7157 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
1 Selection bias 2008-08-31 15:08 2009-01-15 21:32 6 2729 Talk:Bates method/Archive 6
2 Tags, revisited 2009-01-07 16:19 2009-01-16 18:35 14 5197 Talk:Bates method/Archive 6
3 Neutral 2008-10-17 10:49 2008-10-26 22:54 26 12841 Talk:Bates method/Archive 6
1 Archiving of content 2009-01-19 03:57 2009-01-19 21:17 5 1737 Talk:Bates method/Archive 7
2 Accommodation 2009-01-18 05:59 2009-03-12 05:32 19 12055 Talk:Bates method/Archive 7
3 Summary of the major sources 2009-01-19 03:52 2009-03-12 21:12 18 14275 Talk:Bates method/Archive 7
4 RFC the core paragraph of the article explaining why the BM is controversial ! 2009-01-23 18:44 2009-03-04 22:20 78 47179 Talk:Bates method/Archive 7
5 Huxley section 2009-01-28 02:27 2009-01-31 00:33 4 1478 Talk:Bates method/Archive 7
6 Attaining neutrality without losing accuracy 2009-01-28 15:44 2009-02-09 12:00 17 18334 Talk:Bates method/Archive 7
7 tags are gone 2009-01-30 01:23 2009-01-31 01:43 10 5332 Talk:Bates method/Archive 7
8 Lede section 2009-01-30 01:42 2009-03-04 05:38 8 2819 Talk:Bates method/Archive 7
9 Useful essay - WP:FLAT 2009-02-05 17:08 2009-02-09 18:23 3 461 Talk:Bates method/Archive 7
10 Woods redux 2009-03-06 19:57 2009-03-08 18:33 9 5522 Talk:Bates method/Archive 7
11 POV tags in Bates method—Began at User talk:Seeyou 2009-03-06 18:21 2009-03-09 21:33 16 7201 Talk:Bates method/Archive 7
1 Accommodation 2009-01-18 05:59 2009-03-12 05:32 19 10950 Talk:Bates method/Archive 8
2 Summary of the major sources 2009-01-19 03:52 2009-03-12 21:12 18 14275 Talk:Bates method/Archive 8
3 RFC the core paragraph of the article explaining why the BM is controversial ! 2009-01-23 18:44 2009-03-04 22:20 78 47179 Talk:Bates method/Archive 8
4 Huxley section 2009-01-28 02:27 2009-01-31 00:33 4 1478 Talk:Bates method/Archive 8
5 Attaining neutrality without losing accuracy 2009-01-28 15:44 2009-02-09 12:00 17 18334 Talk:Bates method/Archive 8
6 tags are gone 2009-01-30 01:23 2009-01-31 01:43 10 5332 Talk:Bates method/Archive 8
7 Lede section 2009-01-30 01:42 2009-03-04 05:38 8 2819 Talk:Bates method/Archive 8
8 Useful essay - WP:FLAT 2009-02-05 17:08 2009-02-09 18:23 3 461 Talk:Bates method/Archive 8
9 Woods redux 2009-03-06 19:57 2009-03-08 18:33 9 5522 Talk:Bates method/Archive 8
10 POV tags in Bates method—Began at User talk:Seeyou 2009-03-06 18:21 2009-03-09 21:33 16 7201 Talk:Bates method/Archive 8
1 Accommodation 2009-01-18 05:59 2009-03-12 05:32 19 10950 Talk:Bates method/Archive 9
2 Summary of the major sources 2009-01-19 03:52 2009-03-12 21:12 18 14275 Talk:Bates method/Archive 9
3 RFC the core paragraph of the article explaining why the BM is controversial ! 2009-01-23 18:44 2009-03-04 22:20 78 47179 Talk:Bates method/Archive 9
4 Huxley section 2009-01-28 02:27 2009-01-31 00:33 4 1478 Talk:Bates method/Archive 9
5 Attaining neutrality without losing accuracy 2009-01-28 15:44 2009-02-09 12:00 17 18334 Talk:Bates method/Archive 9
6 tags are gone 2009-01-30 01:23 2009-01-31 01:43 10 5332 Talk:Bates method/Archive 9
7 Lede section 2009-01-30 01:42 2009-03-04 05:38 8 2819 Talk:Bates method/Archive 9
8 Useful essay - WP:FLAT 2009-02-05 17:08 2009-02-09 18:23 3 461 Talk:Bates method/Archive 9
9 Woods redux 2009-03-06 19:57 2009-03-08 18:33 9 5522 Talk:Bates method/Archive 9
10 POV tags in Bates method—Began at User talk:Seeyou 2009-03-06 18:21 2009-03-09 21:33 16 7201 Talk:Bates method/Archive 9
1 Infobox Pseudoscience 2009-02-17 09:23 2009-03-16 22:01 21 14787 Talk:Bates method/Archive 10
2 Into the Woods 2009-03-10 18:37 2009-03-13 21:19 11 7403 Talk:Bates method/Archive 10
1 Revert Ronz edit research by ophthalmology reverted into general research ?! 2009-03-15 18:44 2009-03-18 15:37 8 3178 Talk:Bates method/Archive 11
2 No Original research should be present 2009-03-17 22:25 2009-03-18 15:39 3 678 Talk:Bates method/Archive 11
3 Disagreement text template : controversial method versus pseudo scientific concepts 2009-03-13 20:37 2009-03-18 22:45 16 8553 Talk:Bates method/Archive 11
4 POV fork at Wikiquote 2009-03-18 13:33 2009-03-20 10:57 4 1454 Talk:Bates method/Archive 11
5 Bernarr Macfadden 2009-03-27 10:27 2009-03-27 13:43 3 919 Talk:Bates method/Archive 11
1 Meir Schneider 2009-02-05 02:18 2009-03-28 02:18 41 15167 Talk:Bates method/Archive 12
1 added link famousdog 2009-03-26 21:17 2009-03-28 10:57 3 1557 Talk:Bates method/Archive 13
2 Unclaimed reward? 2009-03-28 00:01 2009-03-28 21:16 3 1172 Talk:Bates method/Archive 13
3 RFC for creating a wikiquote article NVI 2009-03-21 21:49 2009-03-29 08:06 22 11917 Talk:Bates method/Archive 13
4 Strain, lying, etc. 2009-04-01 16:15 2009-04-01 16:15 1 482 Talk:Bates method/Archive 13
1 Interesting video for free 2009-03-31 21:00 2009-03-31 21:00 1 746 Talk:Bates method/Archive 14
2 Meir Schneider again 2009-03-30 01:20 2009-04-07 05:23 24 7800 Talk:Bates method/Archive 14
3 The facts concerning Schneider 2009-04-10 18:47 2009-04-10 19:22 2 856 Talk:Bates method/Archive 14
4 RFC : PSWG1920 provide a reliable source for the infobox header 2009-04-05 20:43 2009-04-15 14:33 8 2520 Talk:Bates method/Archive 14
5 Meir Schneider yet again: RFC 2009-04-09 20:14 2009-04-15 14:40 12 7172 Talk:Bates method/Archive 14
1 Passing GA 2009-04-06 21:49 2009-04-16 08:36 3 779 Talk:Bates method/Archive 15
2 Eye illustration 2009-04-13 18:07 2009-04-17 01:40 3 963 Talk:Bates method/Archive 15
3 The copyright issue 2009-04-09 21:25 2009-04-17 11:25 7 3090 Talk:Bates method/Archive 15
4 Statement on physiological plausibility 2009-05-15 18:36 2009-05-15 18:36 1 961 Talk:Bates method/Archive 15
5 AAO Review link - yet again 2009-05-18 00:15 2009-05-22 09:29 4 1688 Talk:Bates method/Archive 15
6 Recreation of Natural vision improvement article 2009-05-19 20:56 2009-05-28 14:43 9 1630 Talk:Bates method/Archive 15
7 Merge See Clearly Method 2009-05-29 08:41 2009-06-01 14:29 8 3078 Talk:Bates method/Archive 15
8 Seeyou's continued outrageous behaviour 2009-06-08 11:14 2009-06-08 19:06 3 940 Talk:Bates method/Archive 15
9 Infobox 2009-06-08 11:28 2009-06-09 09:42 3 1528 Talk:Bates method/Archive 15
10 John Slavicek 2009-07-19 06:32 2009-07-23 10:22 15 5274 Talk:Bates method/Archive 15
1 Non-English sources 2009-08-06 23:18 2009-08-07 19:15 3 849 Talk:Bates method/Archive 16
2 "Negative accommodation" 2009-08-17 21:36 2009-08-18 14:23 2 940 Talk:Bates method/Archive 16
3 Educational or therapeutic? 2009-09-15 20:11 2009-09-17 11:45 12 5973 Talk:Bates method/Archive 16
4 glasses do improve vision? 2010-02-14 23:23 2010-02-14 23:23 1 264 Talk:Bates method/Archive 16
5 Rant 2010-02-12 21:11 2010-06-03 04:44 3 3062 Talk:Bates method/Archive 16
6 Study finds right mindset improves visual acuity 2010-05-01 14:31 2010-05-04 10:40 3 868 Talk:Bates method/Archive 16
7 visionsofjoy.com 2010-06-30 22:56 2010-06-30 23:53 4 722 Talk:Bates method/Archive 16
8 visionsofjoy.org yet again 2010-12-01 02:02 2010-12-02 23:36 4 1416 Talk:Bates method/Archive 16
9 Black listed 2011-01-08 01:29 2011-01-08 01:29 1 316 Talk:Bates method/Archive 16
10 2011 2011-06-17 03:05 2011-09-04 21:55 3 1374 Talk:Bates method/Archive 16
1 Edit warring 2011-10-24 16:11 2011-10-28 09:14 11 10207 Talk:Bates method/Archive 17
2 The Truth about Eye Exercises 2011-11-20 17:19 2012-02-28 15:38 10 6749 Talk:Bates method/Archive 17
1 Recent Edit: Autorefraction--> Refraction 2012-04-20 13:32 2012-04-20 13:32 1 438 Talk:Bates method/Archive 18
2 Potential references 2012-05-13 03:36 2012-08-27 16:30 2 704 Talk:Bates method/Archive 18
3 biased language 2012-08-27 16:51 2012-09-23 19:10 15 11355 Talk:Bates method/Archive 18
4 Concerns of bias 2012-10-24 17:18 2012-10-24 17:18 1 2192 Talk:Bates method/Archive 18
5 Fringe guidance applies to this article? 2013-06-27 16:39 2013-07-04 17:45 17 7728 Talk:Bates method/Archive 18
6 Reference Misquote Defended 2013-07-13 14:21 2013-07-23 15:47 10 8729 Talk:Bates method/Archive 18
1 Anecdote 2013-07-13 19:45 2013-07-19 22:35 16 8573 Talk:Bates method/Archive 19
2 Book by optometrist 2013-07-21 14:34 2014-08-24 19:06 7 3696 Talk:Bates method/Archive 19
3 New article? 2014-04-19 22:13 2014-04-19 22:13 1 690 Talk:Bates method/Archive 19
4 Unsubstantiated vs. ineffective 2015-03-27 16:49 2015-03-28 08:17 11 5210 Talk:Bates method/Archive 19
1 Links to publications 2015-08-15 15:42 2015-08-16 20:34 4 1444 Talk:Bates method/Archive 20
2 Optometrist supports Bates method 2016-02-10 17:07 2016-02-10 19:23 5 1154 Talk:Bates method/Archive 20
3 Claim in article NOT substantiated in reference 2016-04-25 14:02 2016-08-27 16:40 10 5541 Talk:Bates method/Archive 20
4 Strange uncited promotion presumably from 1952 article 2016-06-21 04:00 2016-06-23 20:14 6 3543 Talk:Bates method/Archive 20
5 External links modified 2016-07-02 14:31 2016-07-03 17:59 2 1513 Talk:Bates method/Archive 20
6 External links modified 2016-10-28 07:54 2016-10-28 07:54 1 1466 Talk:Bates method/Archive 20
7 Maybe he was on to something... 2018-09-18 09:22 2019-06-30 23:00 2 1302 Talk:Bates method/Archive 20
8 Bates' book 2019-06-30 18:59 2019-07-01 05:29 6 4840 Talk:Bates method/Archive 20
1 "Ineffective" and sources 2019-01-04 04:05 2020-05-01 06:38 107 41052 Talk:Bates method/Archive 21
2 Citing old sources for authoritative statements 2020-05-06 00:24 2020-05-16 04:48 11 4715 Talk:Bates method/Archive 21
1 Proponents in Infobox 2020-05-22 19:15 2020-05-29 14:37 37 10490 Talk:Bates method/Archive 22
2 National Myopia Prevention and Control Workgroup 2020-06-27 19:30 2020-07-06 12:59 30 10572 Talk:Bates method/Archive 22
1 "Slightly" vs. "more than two lines" 2020-07-08 08:02 2020-09-10 23:50 15 5241 Talk:Bates method/Archive 23
2 Help needed with this sentence... 2020-07-09 21:23 2020-07-22 00:10 9 3804 Talk:Bates method/Archive 23
3 Sungazing and pupil miosis 2020-08-01 20:41 2020-08-08 22:18 14 4945 Talk:Bates method/Archive 23
4 Heavy Bias Against Bates Method 2020-09-27 14:50 2020-10-18 02:33 17 7836 Talk:Bates method/Archive 23
5 Semi-protected edit request on 15 August 2020 2020-08-15 06:45 2020-12-20 03:28 81 34289 Talk:Bates method/Archive 23
6 Risks of sunning and palming 2020-11-13 16:09 2020-11-16 08:30 7 1970 Talk:Bates method/Archive 23
7 Aldous Huxley 2020-11-28 23:42 2020-12-10 22:07 2 600 Talk:Bates method/Archive 23
8 Pollack and Quackwatch 2020-12-20 01:23 2020-12-20 03:38 2 1100 Talk:Bates method/Archive 23
1 Semi-protected edit request on 26 June 2021 2021-06-26 05:31 2021-06-26 06:56 3 2340 Talk:Bates method/Archive 24
2 Substantial changes 2021-09-04 09:48 2021-09-05 00:30 4 1222 Talk:Bates method/Archive 24
3 Heavily biased article - should be neutral or balanced 2021-09-04 10:07 2021-09-05 02:02 15 11796 Talk:Bates method/Archive 24
4 New sections for article 2021-09-04 11:57 2021-09-05 00:44 10 3784 Talk:Bates method/Archive 24
5 Alteration of the first line of the article 2021-09-05 00:42 2021-09-21 01:50 18 8039 Talk:Bates method/Archive 24
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1 Bias 2007-11-14 22:59 2007-11-14 22:59 1 535 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
2 Swinging Unknown Unknown Unknown 737 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
3 Other exercises? Unknown Unknown Unknown 271 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
4 Change to introductory sentence Unknown Unknown Unknown 1213 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
5 Criticism section - Theory regarding the pathogenesis of refractive errors 2006-02-07 21:59 2006-02-07 21:59 1 2063 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
6 Looking at the sun isn't so dangerous. 2006-01-09 20:13 2006-01-12 21:36 2 844 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
7 Removing a section pending sources 2006-02-06 11:38 2007-01-02 23:36 2 2915 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
8 Unsourced material in Bates method 2006-02-06 11:40 2006-02-08 19:28 12 15094 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
9 False logic regarding what is relevant to Bates method 2006-02-08 22:11 2006-02-10 07:11 9 11256 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
10 Changes to the section entitled "The modern debate - myopia is not as irreversible as was thought" 2006-02-10 07:13 2006-02-13 05:30 11 9150 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
11 Re-organising article 2006-02-10 12:39 2006-02-12 06:45 10 6399 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
12 Citing sources 2006-02-11 00:23 2006-02-11 15:40 4 2960 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
13 Categories. Quackery, ophthalmology are BOTH valid 2006-02-12 01:06 2006-12-21 14:52 4 1690 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
14 Published papers by Bates? 2006-02-12 03:16 2006-02-12 07:57 2 877 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
15 Use of 'see also' 2006-02-12 12:48 2006-02-12 17:46 2 1367 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
16 remarks and changes 2006-02-12 23:55 2006-02-12 23:55 1 1727 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
17 Pathogenesis and control of myopia: the modern "debate" 2006-05-12 22:56 2006-05-12 22:56 1 3539 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
18 Explanation of reversions of three recent edits 2006-06-05 17:03 2006-06-05 17:03 1 2861 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
19 General 2006-06-07 04:15 2006-06-07 04:15 1 1170 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
20 Comment 2006-06-29 05:57 2006-06-30 13:42 6 4664 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
21 Natural vision improvement 2006-09-20 20:44 2006-09-21 00:23 2 2282 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
22 Material removed 2006-10-16 20:46 2006-10-16 21:07 2 1444 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
23 See clearly method or reference 23 versus 25 2007-01-07 15:17 2007-02-09 21:39 2 1109 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
24 disadvantages to eyeglasses 2007-01-07 15:17 2007-01-07 15:17 1 664 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
25 Citations 2007-01-04 16:01 2007-01-04 16:01 1 157 Talk:Bates method/Archive 1
1 2 experiments 2007-01-07 15:49 2007-02-09 21:34 4 3533 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
2 book citation should stay original 2007-02-09 21:17 2007-02-12 15:46 4 3149 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
3 The mechanism of accommodation for older people who have normal sight ? 2007-02-19 14:29 2007-02-19 14:29 1 3274 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
4 Mediation request 2007-02-23 07:03 2007-02-23 07:03 1 168 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
5 Culled links 2007-04-12 13:30 2007-04-24 14:21 5 2996 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
6 Improving eyesight "naturally" 2007-04-23 20:38 2007-04-24 13:50 2 2678 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
7 Reply 2007-05-01 22:14 2007-05-02 15:55 3 8629 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
8 Reply : 2007-05-02 20:45 2007-05-03 13:20 2 2190 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
9 Reply 2007-05-08 20:30 2007-05-09 19:16 2 389 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
10 Keep going, you're almost in breach of 3RR 2007-07-09 16:30 2007-07-09 16:30 1 339 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
11 External links 2007-07-09 22:25 2007-07-16 13:51 4 4967 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
12 Bates' technique 2007-07-24 12:12 2007-07-28 20:35 6 2844 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
13 Famousdog And / or AED ( Both Eye Doctors ) 2007-09-16 20:16 2007-09-17 15:59 2 1505 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
14 Fake argument removal 2007-09-27 21:17 2007-10-02 13:21 10 3620 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
15 See Clearly Method Article Corrections Deleted 2007-10-04 22:37 2007-10-05 03:59 2 9313 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
16 For the ones unaware AED, famousdog, Mastcel & SMBeresford might be one person. 2007-10-07 12:40 2007-10-10 13:05 3 1579 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
17 External links 2007-10-19 13:42 2007-10-19 13:42 1 350 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
18 Monkeys 2007-10-26 13:25 2007-10-26 13:25 1 981 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
19 Recent unusual activity 2007-11-28 21:15 2007-11-28 21:15 1 798 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
20 For the objective reader part 1 of x 2007-12-08 17:31 2008-01-08 20:33 5 2791 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
21 The "fundamental principle" section 2007-12-13 16:44 2007-12-13 16:44 1 722 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
22 For the objective reader part 2 of x 2007-12-22 07:22 2007-12-22 07:22 1 847 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
23 For the objective reader part 3 of x Unknown Unknown Unknown 1007 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
24 For the skeptic reader Unknown Unknown Unknown 478 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
25 For the objective reader part 4 of x Unknown Unknown Unknown 362 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
26 For the skeptic Unknown Unknown Unknown 252 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
27 For the objective reader part 5 of x 2007-12-22 12:09 2007-12-22 12:09 1 277 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
28 For the skeptic Unknown Unknown Unknown 112 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
29 For the objective reader part 6 of x 2007-12-29 20:01 2007-12-29 20:01 1 806 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
30 For the objective reader part 8 of x 2007-12-30 08:47 2007-12-30 08:47 1 174 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
31 For the objective reader part 9 of x 2007-12-30 11:44 2007-12-30 16:39 2 1326 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
32 For the objective reader part 10 of x. 2007-12-30 20:36 2007-12-30 20:36 1 2725 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
33 2 cases which should be discussed 2007-12-31 17:45 2008-01-01 11:53 3 2850 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
34 For the objective reader part 11 of x 2008-01-01 20:16 2008-01-02 05:25 2 5612 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
35 For the objective reader part 13 of x 2008-03-21 20:53 2008-03-21 20:53 1 676 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
36 For the objective reader part 13 of x #2 2008-03-23 15:14 2008-03-25 02:31 3 2163 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
37 From the wikipedia article contact lens / contacts 2008-04-14 15:45 2008-04-19 17:31 5 2123 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
38 Open proxies 2008-01-02 05:06 2008-01-05 21:12 3 1914 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
39 Consensus? 2008-01-07 21:25 2008-01-07 21:27 2 1221 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
40 Mediation case about introduction 2008-01-09 20:46 2008-01-10 22:35 3 3772 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
41 The Reason : NPOV giving objective referenced information 2008-01-09 21:56 2008-01-10 19:44 3 3665 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
42 Don’t be fooled 2008-01-11 21:02 2008-01-12 13:37 3 3900 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
43 RfC: Dispute about Introduction represent old 1920 Batesmethod or the Batesmethod of today 2008-01-12 15:38 2008-01-14 06:25 9 8650 Talk:Bates method/Archive 2
1 Changes to chapter headings and off-topic discussion of retinal detachment 2008-01-22 21:20 2008-01-22 21:33 2 1324 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
2 Central fixation 2008-01-28 14:52 2008-01-28 14:52 1 431 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
3 Shifting and Swinging 2008-01-29 12:43 2008-01-31 19:58 5 4037 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
4 Better Eyesight Magazine link 2008-01-30 01:17 2008-02-04 20:11 25 9130 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
5 Book vs Further reading 2008-01-30 17:40 2008-01-30 17:56 2 591 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
6 AfD 2008-02-02 23:18 2008-02-04 15:13 2 684 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
7 NPOV 2008-02-04 16:03 2008-02-04 19:36 3 1734 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
8 "Claimed success" section 2008-02-04 19:26 2008-04-02 00:49 5 1685 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
9 Length of article 2008-02-06 20:58 2008-02-07 14:17 5 2200 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
10 Incorporation of Criticisms section into main text 2008-02-08 14:09 2008-02-11 14:53 6 2876 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
11 Clear "flashes" 2008-02-13 20:18 2008-02-18 14:40 4 2028 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
12 NPOV and length concerns 2008-02-14 03:45 2008-03-05 01:19 8 3281 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
13 Amblyopia and glasses 2008-02-19 15:47 2008-02-20 14:07 4 1869 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
14 NPOV again 2008-03-05 13:56 2008-03-08 02:56 14 4185 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
15 Potential third-party sources 2008-03-08 04:17 2008-03-10 02:47 3 1856 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
16 Suggested cleanup per WP:NPOV, WP:FRINGE, and WP:OR 2008-03-10 03:35 2008-03-21 04:32 14 7590 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
17 Removal of definition Bates method 2008-03-21 20:53 2008-03-21 20:53 1 1091 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
18 Proposed merge with William Bates 2008-03-23 17:50 2008-03-25 02:34 17 7309 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
19 A Modest Proposal 2008-03-28 17:30 2008-04-07 03:50 2 1213 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
20 Sunning open / closed eyelids ridiculing 2008-04-06 13:56 2008-05-31 13:12 4 2766 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
21 Book and report 2008-03-28 18:19 2008-04-23 08:20 5 3554 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
22 "Modern Variants" section 2008-04-08 06:28 2008-04-08 17:51 4 2322 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
23 Other methods section 2008-04-09 07:53 2008-04-09 20:04 2 1028 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
24 Disputed sources 2008-04-13 04:20 2008-05-21 19:21 20 8865 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
25 Modern Variants? 2008-04-13 16:45 2008-05-11 22:08 8 3731 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
26 Huxley and relapses 2008-04-19 19:15 2008-04-19 19:15 1 556 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
27 Research 2008-04-26 17:42 2008-04-30 13:42 6 9901 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
28 "Tense" eye 2008-04-30 13:20 2008-04-30 13:20 1 333 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
29 Myopia hereditary? 2008-04-30 13:47 2008-04-30 17:42 2 3618 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
30 More on the hereditary of myopia 2008-05-01 16:08 2008-05-01 16:08 1 1239 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
31 Hereditary of myopia and the worldwideweb 2008-05-01 08:19 2008-05-01 13:34 2 4422 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
32 Discusses adding hereditary paragraph 2008-05-01 16:09 2008-05-06 20:39 13 5389 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
33 Please use descriptive section titles 2008-05-01 16:35 2008-05-06 20:23 7 2539 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
34 Booklist ? 2008-05-09 22:32 2008-05-29 13:25 5 2324 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
35 Modern Bates method, See clearly method, Natural vision improvement 2008-05-17 16:10 2008-05-20 20:36 8 7958 Talk:Bates method/Archive 3
1 Warning template 2008-04-24 14:24 2008-06-04 01:37 28 12358 Talk:Bates method/Archive 4
2 Discussion of accommodation 2008-05-05 00:27 2008-06-01 19:02 4 2133 Talk:Bates method/Archive 4
3 Warning template (again) 2008-06-18 13:53 2008-07-06 17:09 18 10965 Talk:Bates method/Archive 4
4 External link has 10 links to commercial sites 2007-07-09 22:25 2008-07-28 03:15 25 13891 Talk:Bates method/Archive 4
5 Article now based on independent sources 2008-07-09 09:12 2008-07-22 18:22 8 3781 Talk:Bates method/Archive 4
6 Aldous Huxley 2008-07-10 17:19 2008-07-14 01:26 9 6854 Talk:Bates method/Archive 4
7 Synthesized and original criticism 2008-07-24 18:27 2008-08-04 14:29 11 5453 Talk:Bates method/Archive 4
8 Section tags 2008-08-04 17:08 2008-08-06 13:52 21 9889 Talk:Bates method/Archive 4
9 Time to remove poor sources 2008-08-06 02:13 2008-08-11 16:56 20 10355 Talk:Bates method/Archive 4
10 Using quotes from Bates 2008-01-14 06:25 2008-08-16 21:48 6 3632 Talk:Bates method/Archive 4
11 Shifting and Swinging 2008-08-16 04:01 2008-09-02 05:53 12 4857 Talk:Bates method/Archive 4
12 NPOV and OR are being ignored 2008-08-17 15:11 2008-08-24 20:45 50 23647 Talk:Bates method/Archive 4
13 Flashing 2008-08-21 16:26 2008-08-22 18:17 7 2476 Talk:Bates method/Archive 4
14 Was Bates an Ophthalmologist? 2008-08-24 01:38 2008-08-27 01:07 6 3127 Talk:Bates method/Archive 4
15 Sunning/solar retinopathy 2008-08-27 00:39 2008-08-27 02:25 2 251 Talk:Bates method/Archive 4
16 Some objective factual information of the past and now 2008-09-07 09:12 2008-09-09 08:46 8 4451 Talk:Bates method/Archive 4
1 External links 2008-08-02 16:54 2008-12-18 20:14 31 22127 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
2 List of poor sources 2008-08-12 15:21 2008-10-17 00:18 30 9665 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
3 Change title from Bates Method into Bates method / Natural Vision improvement 2008-08-17 16:32 2008-09-03 19:12 20 11641 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
4 Elwin Marg was an optometrist ! 2008-08-21 21:25 2008-09-09 17:54 20 9923 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
5 contact lens-like effect of moisture on the eye 2008-08-29 08:21 2008-08-29 15:07 3 562 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
6 Scientific evidence that irreversible changes in the shape of the eyeball cause refractive errors 2008-09-02 15:25 2008-09-08 15:32 16 10145 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
7 Mainstream view 2008-09-04 12:56 2008-09-08 13:57 32 16265 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
8 Brain training 2008-09-04 18:16 2008-09-10 13:29 2 1324 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
9 See Clearly Method 2008-09-05 13:07 2008-09-07 21:55 17 9042 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
10 A note on the Huxley incident 2008-09-07 02:20 2008-09-08 14:09 3 3053 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
11 References Unknown Unknown Unknown 16 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
12 RFC Nr : 1 change of title Bates method into Bates method / Natural Vision improvement 2008-09-07 08:55 2008-10-08 21:23 9 4995 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
13 RFC Nr : 2 Removal of sourced quotes 2008-09-07 18:39 2008-10-03 12:09 23 16560 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
14 "After Bates" section 2008-09-08 15:41 2008-09-17 20:53 22 11539 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
15 Books 2008-09-17 20:14 2008-09-17 20:14 1 1524 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
16 Dead-end 2008-09-16 11:12 2008-09-16 17:01 2 1416 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
17 Information of questionable importance 2008-09-21 21:39 2008-10-04 23:24 14 6317 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
18 Positive independent source? 2008-10-02 18:34 2008-10-04 08:53 6 2224 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
19 Second Generation Bates versus Classic Bates method 2008-10-04 17:55 2008-10-04 21:07 2 573 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
20 Biofeedback training 2008-10-05 20:21 2008-10-05 21:40 2 2330 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
21 Article images? 2008-10-06 18:29 2008-12-15 21:57 8 4964 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
22 RFC nr : 3 removal of Woods research results 2008-10-07 21:16 2008-11-14 23:44 38 19267 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
23 Resources which would be helpful to have online 2008-10-27 11:24 2008-10-27 13:56 5 2148 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
24 Dishonest wikilinks 2008-10-21 15:20 2008-10-21 15:20 1 883 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
25 "Original research to promote a fringe point of view" 2008-10-22 19:02 2008-10-22 20:07 3 1492 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
26 GA Nom 2008-10-27 01:42 2008-10-27 02:03 2 1042 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
27 Tags 2008-10-28 15:53 2008-11-01 23:49 16 6819 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
28 Impartial Tone 2008-11-08 18:50 2008-11-28 20:51 21 12797 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
29 Forum shopping 2008-11-22 14:24 2008-11-22 14:24 1 378 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
30 Further reading / External links 2008-11-26 19:03 2008-11-26 21:11 2 758 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
31 Edit by Zappernapper 2008-12-01 02:42 2008-12-03 22:47 5 3996 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
32 Informal review 2008-12-05 22:43 2009-01-12 19:54 24 29744 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
33 Comments on Informal Review 2008-08-06 13:52 2008-12-06 22:21 8 8545 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
34 Pollack and Gardner as sources 2008-12-06 23:41 2008-12-07 00:58 2 2010 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
35 Proposal to remove "Ophthalmological Research" section 2008-12-08 21:28 2008-12-20 00:41 17 9611 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
36 Farewell to the Woods Report 2008-12-10 17:56 2008-12-22 12:08 8 4797 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
37 Primary sources tag 2008-12-20 20:15 2008-12-31 15:34 14 7157 Talk:Bates method/Archive 5
1 Selection bias 2008-08-31 15:08 2009-01-15 21:32 6 2729 Talk:Bates method/Archive 6
2 Tags, revisited 2009-01-07 16:19 2009-01-16 18:35 14 5197 Talk:Bates method/Archive 6
3 Neutral 2008-10-17 10:49 2008-10-26 22:54 26 12841 Talk:Bates method/Archive 6
1 Archiving of content 2009-01-19 03:57 2009-01-19 21:17 5 1737 Talk:Bates method/Archive 7
2 Accommodation 2009-01-18 05:59 2009-03-12 05:32 19 12055 Talk:Bates method/Archive 7
3 Summary of the major sources 2009-01-19 03:52 2009-03-12 21:12 18 14275 Talk:Bates method/Archive 7
4 RFC the core paragraph of the article explaining why the BM is controversial ! 2009-01-23 18:44 2009-03-04 22:20 78 47179 Talk:Bates method/Archive 7
5 Huxley section 2009-01-28 02:27 2009-01-31 00:33 4 1478 Talk:Bates method/Archive 7
6 Attaining neutrality without losing accuracy 2009-01-28 15:44 2009-02-09 12:00 17 18334 Talk:Bates method/Archive 7
7 tags are gone 2009-01-30 01:23 2009-01-31 01:43 10 5332 Talk:Bates method/Archive 7
8 Lede section 2009-01-30 01:42 2009-03-04 05:38 8 2819 Talk:Bates method/Archive 7
9 Useful essay - WP:FLAT 2009-02-05 17:08 2009-02-09 18:23 3 461 Talk:Bates method/Archive 7
10 Woods redux 2009-03-06 19:57 2009-03-08 18:33 9 5522 Talk:Bates method/Archive 7
11 POV tags in Bates method—Began at User talk:Seeyou 2009-03-06 18:21 2009-03-09 21:33 16 7201 Talk:Bates method/Archive 7
1 Accommodation 2009-01-18 05:59 2009-03-12 05:32 19 10950 Talk:Bates method/Archive 8
2 Summary of the major sources 2009-01-19 03:52 2009-03-12 21:12 18 14275 Talk:Bates method/Archive 8
3 RFC the core paragraph of the article explaining why the BM is controversial ! 2009-01-23 18:44 2009-03-04 22:20 78 47179 Talk:Bates method/Archive 8
4 Huxley section 2009-01-28 02:27 2009-01-31 00:33 4 1478 Talk:Bates method/Archive 8
5 Attaining neutrality without losing accuracy 2009-01-28 15:44 2009-02-09 12:00 17 18334 Talk:Bates method/Archive 8
6 tags are gone 2009-01-30 01:23 2009-01-31 01:43 10 5332 Talk:Bates method/Archive 8
7 Lede section 2009-01-30 01:42 2009-03-04 05:38 8 2819 Talk:Bates method/Archive 8
8 Useful essay - WP:FLAT 2009-02-05 17:08 2009-02-09 18:23 3 461 Talk:Bates method/Archive 8
9 Woods redux 2009-03-06 19:57 2009-03-08 18:33 9 5522 Talk:Bates method/Archive 8
10 POV tags in Bates method—Began at User talk:Seeyou 2009-03-06 18:21 2009-03-09 21:33 16 7201 Talk:Bates method/Archive 8
1 Accommodation 2009-01-18 05:59 2009-03-12 05:32 19 10950 Talk:Bates method/Archive 9
2 Summary of the major sources 2009-01-19 03:52 2009-03-12 21:12 18 14275 Talk:Bates method/Archive 9
3 RFC the core paragraph of the article explaining why the BM is controversial ! 2009-01-23 18:44 2009-03-04 22:20 78 47179 Talk:Bates method/Archive 9
4 Huxley section 2009-01-28 02:27 2009-01-31 00:33 4 1478 Talk:Bates method/Archive 9
5 Attaining neutrality without losing accuracy 2009-01-28 15:44 2009-02-09 12:00 17 18334 Talk:Bates method/Archive 9
6 tags are gone 2009-01-30 01:23 2009-01-31 01:43 10 5332 Talk:Bates method/Archive 9
7 Lede section 2009-01-30 01:42 2009-03-04 05:38 8 2819 Talk:Bates method/Archive 9
8 Useful essay - WP:FLAT 2009-02-05 17:08 2009-02-09 18:23 3 461 Talk:Bates method/Archive 9
9 Woods redux 2009-03-06 19:57 2009-03-08 18:33 9 5522 Talk:Bates method/Archive 9
10 POV tags in Bates method—Began at User talk:Seeyou 2009-03-06 18:21 2009-03-09 21:33 16 7201 Talk:Bates method/Archive 9
1 Infobox Pseudoscience 2009-02-17 09:23 2009-03-16 22:01 21 14787 Talk:Bates method/Archive 10
2 Into the Woods 2009-03-10 18:37 2009-03-13 21:19 11 7403 Talk:Bates method/Archive 10
1 Revert Ronz edit research by ophthalmology reverted into general research ?! 2009-03-15 18:44 2009-03-18 15:37 8 3178 Talk:Bates method/Archive 11
2 No Original research should be present 2009-03-17 22:25 2009-03-18 15:39 3 678 Talk:Bates method/Archive 11
3 Disagreement text template : controversial method versus pseudo scientific concepts 2009-03-13 20:37 2009-03-18 22:45 16 8553 Talk:Bates method/Archive 11
4 POV fork at Wikiquote 2009-03-18 13:33 2009-03-20 10:57 4 1454 Talk:Bates method/Archive 11
5 Bernarr Macfadden 2009-03-27 10:27 2009-03-27 13:43 3 919 Talk:Bates method/Archive 11
1 Meir Schneider 2009-02-05 02:18 2009-03-28 02:18 41 15167 Talk:Bates method/Archive 12
1 added link famousdog 2009-03-26 21:17 2009-03-28 10:57 3 1557 Talk:Bates method/Archive 13
2 Unclaimed reward? 2009-03-28 00:01 2009-03-28 21:16 3 1172 Talk:Bates method/Archive 13
3 RFC for creating a wikiquote article NVI 2009-03-21 21:49 2009-03-29 08:06 22 11917 Talk:Bates method/Archive 13
4 Strain, lying, etc. 2009-04-01 16:15 2009-04-01 16:15 1 482 Talk:Bates method/Archive 13
1 Interesting video for free 2009-03-31 21:00 2009-03-31 21:00 1 746 Talk:Bates method/Archive 14
2 Meir Schneider again 2009-03-30 01:20 2009-04-07 05:23 24 7800 Talk:Bates method/Archive 14
3 The facts concerning Schneider 2009-04-10 18:47 2009-04-10 19:22 2 856 Talk:Bates method/Archive 14
4 RFC : PSWG1920 provide a reliable source for the infobox header 2009-04-05 20:43 2009-04-15 14:33 8 2520 Talk:Bates method/Archive 14
5 Meir Schneider yet again: RFC 2009-04-09 20:14 2009-04-15 14:40 12 7172 Talk:Bates method/Archive 14
1 Passing GA 2009-04-06 21:49 2009-04-16 08:36 3 779 Talk:Bates method/Archive 15
2 Eye illustration 2009-04-13 18:07 2009-04-17 01:40 3 963 Talk:Bates method/Archive 15
3 The copyright issue 2009-04-09 21:25 2009-04-17 11:25 7 3090 Talk:Bates method/Archive 15
4 Statement on physiological plausibility 2009-05-15 18:36 2009-05-15 18:36 1 961 Talk:Bates method/Archive 15
5 AAO Review link - yet again 2009-05-18 00:15 2009-05-22 09:29 4 1688 Talk:Bates method/Archive 15
6 Recreation of Natural vision improvement article 2009-05-19 20:56 2009-05-28 14:43 9 1630 Talk:Bates method/Archive 15
7 Merge See Clearly Method 2009-05-29 08:41 2009-06-01 14:29 8 3078 Talk:Bates method/Archive 15
8 Seeyou's continued outrageous behaviour 2009-06-08 11:14 2009-06-08 19:06 3 940 Talk:Bates method/Archive 15
9 Infobox 2009-06-08 11:28 2009-06-09 09:42 3 1528 Talk:Bates method/Archive 15
10 John Slavicek 2009-07-19 06:32 2009-07-23 10:22 15 5274 Talk:Bates method/Archive 15
1 Non-English sources 2009-08-06 23:18 2009-08-07 19:15 3 849 Talk:Bates method/Archive 16
2 "Negative accommodation" 2009-08-17 21:36 2009-08-18 14:23 2 940 Talk:Bates method/Archive 16
3 Educational or therapeutic? 2009-09-15 20:11 2009-09-17 11:45 12 5973 Talk:Bates method/Archive 16
4 glasses do improve vision? 2010-02-14 23:23 2010-02-14 23:23 1 264 Talk:Bates method/Archive 16
5 Rant 2010-02-12 21:11 2010-06-03 04:44 3 3062 Talk:Bates method/Archive 16
6 Study finds right mindset improves visual acuity 2010-05-01 14:31 2010-05-04 10:40 3 868 Talk:Bates method/Archive 16
7 visionsofjoy.com 2010-06-30 22:56 2010-06-30 23:53 4 722 Talk:Bates method/Archive 16
8 visionsofjoy.org yet again 2010-12-01 02:02 2010-12-02 23:36 4 1416 Talk:Bates method/Archive 16
9 Black listed 2011-01-08 01:29 2011-01-08 01:29 1 316 Talk:Bates method/Archive 16
10 2011 2011-06-17 03:05 2011-09-04 21:55 3 1374 Talk:Bates method/Archive 16
1 Edit warring 2011-10-24 16:11 2011-10-28 09:14 11 10207 Talk:Bates method/Archive 17
2 The Truth about Eye Exercises 2011-11-20 17:19 2012-02-28 15:38 10 6749 Talk:Bates method/Archive 17
1 Recent Edit: Autorefraction--> Refraction 2012-04-20 13:32 2012-04-20 13:32 1 438 Talk:Bates method/Archive 18
2 Potential references 2012-05-13 03:36 2012-08-27 16:30 2 704 Talk:Bates method/Archive 18
3 biased language 2012-08-27 16:51 2012-09-23 19:10 15 11355 Talk:Bates method/Archive 18
4 Concerns of bias 2012-10-24 17:18 2012-10-24 17:18 1 2192 Talk:Bates method/Archive 18
5 Fringe guidance applies to this article? 2013-06-27 16:39 2013-07-04 17:45 17 7728 Talk:Bates method/Archive 18
6 Reference Misquote Defended 2013-07-13 14:21 2013-07-23 15:47 10 8729 Talk:Bates method/Archive 18
1 Anecdote 2013-07-13 19:45 2013-07-19 22:35 16 8573 Talk:Bates method/Archive 19
2 Book by optometrist 2013-07-21 14:34 2014-08-24 19:06 7 3696 Talk:Bates method/Archive 19
3 New article? 2014-04-19 22:13 2014-04-19 22:13 1 690 Talk:Bates method/Archive 19
4 Unsubstantiated vs. ineffective 2015-03-27 16:49 2015-03-28 08:17 11 5210 Talk:Bates method/Archive 19
1 Links to publications 2015-08-15 15:42 2015-08-16 20:34 4 1444 Talk:Bates method/Archive 20
2 Optometrist supports Bates method 2016-02-10 17:07 2016-02-10 19:23 5 1154 Talk:Bates method/Archive 20
3 Claim in article NOT substantiated in reference 2016-04-25 14:02 2016-08-27 16:40 10 5541 Talk:Bates method/Archive 20
4 Strange uncited promotion presumably from 1952 article 2016-06-21 04:00 2016-06-23 20:14 6 3543 Talk:Bates method/Archive 20
5 External links modified 2016-07-02 14:31 2016-07-03 17:59 2 1513 Talk:Bates method/Archive 20
6 External links modified 2016-10-28 07:54 2016-10-28 07:54 1 1466 Talk:Bates method/Archive 20
7 Maybe he was on to something... 2018-09-18 09:22 2019-06-30 23:00 2 1302 Talk:Bates method/Archive 20
8 Bates' book 2019-06-30 18:59 2019-07-01 05:29 6 4840 Talk:Bates method/Archive 20
1 "Ineffective" and sources 2019-01-04 04:05 2020-05-01 06:38 107 41052 Talk:Bates method/Archive 21
2 Citing old sources for authoritative statements 2020-05-06 00:24 2020-05-16 04:48 11 4715 Talk:Bates method/Archive 21
1 Proponents in Infobox 2020-05-22 19:15 2020-05-29 14:37 37 10490 Talk:Bates method/Archive 22
2 National Myopia Prevention and Control Workgroup 2020-06-27 19:30 2020-07-06 12:59 30 10572 Talk:Bates method/Archive 22
1 "Slightly" vs. "more than two lines" 2020-07-08 08:02 2020-09-10 23:50 15 5241 Talk:Bates method/Archive 23
2 Help needed with this sentence... 2020-07-09 21:23 2020-07-22 00:10 9 3804 Talk:Bates method/Archive 23
3 Sungazing and pupil miosis 2020-08-01 20:41 2020-08-08 22:18 14 4945 Talk:Bates method/Archive 23
4 Heavy Bias Against Bates Method 2020-09-27 14:50 2020-10-18 02:33 17 7836 Talk:Bates method/Archive 23
5 Semi-protected edit request on 15 August 2020 2020-08-15 06:45 2020-12-20 03:28 81 34289 Talk:Bates method/Archive 23
6 Risks of sunning and palming 2020-11-13 16:09 2020-11-16 08:30 7 1970 Talk:Bates method/Archive 23
7 Aldous Huxley 2020-11-28 23:42 2020-12-10 22:07 2 600 Talk:Bates method/Archive 23
8 Pollack and Quackwatch 2020-12-20 01:23 2020-12-20 03:38 2 1100 Talk:Bates method/Archive 23
1 Semi-protected edit request on 26 June 2021 2021-06-26 05:31 2021-06-26 06:56 3 2340 Talk:Bates method/Archive 24
2 Substantial changes 2021-09-04 09:48 2021-09-05 00:30 4 1222 Talk:Bates method/Archive 24
3 Heavily biased article - should be neutral or balanced 2021-09-04 10:07 2021-09-05 02:02 15 11796 Talk:Bates method/Archive 24
4 New sections for article 2021-09-04 11:57 2021-09-05 00:44 10 3784 Talk:Bates method/Archive 24
5 Alteration of the first line of the article 2021-09-05 00:42 2021-09-21 01:50 18 8039 Talk:Bates method/Archive 24

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