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Hey man. Yeah, I understand the problem. I didn't know it had to explicitly state that, thanks. Alvandria ( talk) 20:43, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
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I am shocked but not surprised when I saw the following edit. Versus001 is highly troublesome, trying to edit war with me. He follows me and reverts my edits. He snoops and stalks at my sandbox by patrolling it. I don't know what to do. Just hope he victimizes someone else and not me. Sandra opposed to terrorism ( talk) 23:31, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
The fuck. Take this off my page. Now. All of you. Shoo. Git.
Valfontis (
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You reverted an edit I made to the article about my 5th-great-grandfather, Cornelius Gilliam. I'm curious as to how you're related to Cornelius and if we are cousins. ETO Buff ( talk) 08:54, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
Re:Civic Stadium. Valfontis ( talk) 10:33, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
Thank you! I'm a real-life encyclopedia author, and I will do my best to give my contribution to this free-for-all online encyclopedia.
Daimyo2 (
talk) 16:55, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
Regarding this, your edit summary is inappropriate. I missed your one-line comment situated just above the other stuff, and never intended to put my comments above anyone else's, let alone yours. AGF was certainly due on your part. A snippy edit summary in this instance, not so much. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 16:16, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
"We've edited together harmoniously in the past, Winkelvi, please don't look for hostility where none was intended"Which is why I came here with the intent of pointing out WP:AGF. Which you didn't employ, rather, you assumed I was acting recklessly and disrespectfully -- as evidenced by this: ((tq|"I think my reaction was because I was unhappy that it looked like you had ignored my comment and repeated the same thing I said."}} Which, I believe, was the crux of the matter for you. You further confirm your upset here when you say,
"if you'd placed your reply at the bottom of the AFD, it may not have mattered so much."Sure, if I'd done that, this wouldn't have happened at all. If had also clicked "preview" I likely would have seen your comment already in place. But, in spite of all this, I get it. You were ticked I (allegedly) ignored your comment. Which I didn't. I honestly didn't see it. At this point I think you will now agree that the latter, rather than the former, would have been the better assumption.
"I think subsequent replies should go after the DELSORT notices instead of constantly forcing them to the bottom of the page."Noted. But I don't necessarily agree.
You might be interested in this. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 18:40, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
Re: Big Cat Rescue
I disagree with your notion of me engaging in an edit-war. Both Tedder and you reverted my edits several times with insufficient explanations. Both of you demand from me to discuss it on the talk page, while not doing the same yourself and preferring to immediately revert my edits instead. Several of the edits I made initially reverted by you or Tedder eventually remained in the article even after your major revision. -- Serval5412 ( talk) 18:51, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
... for editing your post at WP:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 October 24 § Streams, and thank you for AGF when you reverted it. I had thought it would be helpful and that you might accept it as such, but I was wrong, and it was presumptuous of me. At the very least, I should have asked permission before editing your post. YBG ( talk) 05:53, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
what exactly is disruptive about making a very short term test edit to help instruct kids in a classroom? This is ludicrous. Please reconsider. See the talk section above it. John from Idegon ( talk) 22:39, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
@ John from Idegon: have I been uncivil? I'm confused because I'm feeling a lot of anger and hostility from you and a few other people regarding the block I did that I brought to the community for discussion, which to be clear I am perfectly OK with someone reverting. Am I misinterpreting the anger and hostility? What's up? By doing what may have been an unwarranted action and possibly not assuming good faith on the part of the teacher, did I forfeit my right to WP:AFG in turn? As a fellow member of WikiProject Oregon I hope we can collaborate calmly in the future. Cheers, Valfontis ( talk) 17:17, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
Context: People talking about the situation and asking SlimVirgin to unblock on her talk page.
I'm not sure I should be the poster child for self-righteous assholes everywhere, but if I am, please calmly discuss how you would like me to act in the future. Further discussions about "good block", "bad block" etc. should be kept on the ANI section I started. Thanks! Valfontis ( talk) 18:51, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
An apology is in order: the hasty initial phrasing we're collectively a bunch of self righteous assholes (emphasis added) was intended to convey I was more dismayed at the overall tone -- especially all the folks saying "good block!!" It was as much about ANI as this particular block -- see Wikipedia:Not Colosseum, written last March. Of course I shouldn't have said it at all, which is why striking that portion was my first edit this morning (my time zone) [1]. NE Ent 20:48, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
How about this: someone unblocks Wangenra (I don't care whether its you or Sarah or someone else) and collectively Gandydancer, John from Idegon and you all agree we can simply remove User_talk:Wangenra#Sorry... from the talk page? NE Ent 21:25, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
To be clear, Valfontis, my repeat of the "asshole" sentiment was not directed at you. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 21:36, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
@ John from Idegon: are you suggesting someone (me?) e-mail the teacher? Which one of us is going to best represent the community? Perhaps that is a discussion for the ANI thread? Valfontis ( talk) 13:26, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
For the sake of clarity -- unless you count "being nagged" as a sanction, there is no serious thought of admin sanctions happening here. The admin standard is rightly WP:NOTPERFECT: the fact that some of us disagree with your particular approach to dealing with a particular legitimate issue -- no one is arguing the test edits can be allowed to continue -- does not mean you're not valued as an editor and an administrator. My goal here and on ANI is simply to get the editor unblocked (and the "sorry" section removed, because we really do want to send a coherent firm message). NE Ent 13:28, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
(I don't like being called "Val" ::smile::) I've unblocked and would like to move on. Cheers, Valfontis ( talk) 16:29, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
...for unblocking the teacher. It was the right thing to do. BMK ( talk) 07:27, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Awesome. I'm going to write an autobio now. Valfontis ( talk) 07:48, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
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FYI... you created a redirect to itself. Bgwhite ( talk) 07:30, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
I've completed work on that list of creeks you posted to my talk page. That was fun. If you have more, I'd be glad to work on them too. Meanwhile, I see a lot of redlinked streams in the List of rivers of Oregon that should keep me occupied. Finetooth ( talk) 20:35, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for helping me to understand the difference between the state of Washington and Washington State...lol! You were nice about fixing my embarrassing edit. It's nice to meet another editor with a kind sense of humor. The Very Best of Regards,
I reported User:166.170.44.165 to AIV but he is still vandalizing, so I will need to request an immediate block. Thank you. CLCStudent ( talk) 17:25, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
Hello, I see that you have some concerns about my edits to the Jules Bailey page. You flagged a potential conflict of interest. Mr. Bailey is a former employer and a friend. I did not regard that as a conflict of interest, but rather as a basis for knowing something about the topic (I've just edited a few pages, about topics where I have a relatively unique knowledge). I see, though, that such relationships fall within Wikipedia's "conflict of interest" policy. (Also, my edits were all done on my own initiative, in my own free time, and I received no payment or benefit.)
I was careful to include verifiable information and provide references. If you have concerns/doubts, you're free to remove content that you find inappropriate, or I'll work with you to bring the article to Wikipedia's standard of neutrality. Hburton86 ( talk) 07:19, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
So I posted the Samuel Weller piece yesterday, and belatedly looked at Weller Pottery, which is relatively pitiful, IMHO. My question, though, has to do with duplication and the appropriate limits for the biography of Weller and the history of his company (which may also be used by viewers to learn about the various pottery lines). I tried to focus on Weller's character, relationships with his designers, and other details about his history and personality, but should part of this piece be moved to the article on the pottery? Cheers! Grand'mere Eugene ( talk) 23:58, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
My best wishes to you and yours in this holiday season
and in the year ahead. Finetooth ( talk) 18:08, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
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Thank you for the participation and support at my RFA. It is truly appreciated. I hope to be of further help around here, and if you see me doing something dumb, you know where to find me. Again, I thank you. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 02:13, 24 December 2015 (UTC) |
I seem to remember your mentioning (back in the dark ages a year or two back) that you sometimes archived exceedingly long talk pages. If it was you I talked to (and if it wasn't, please ignore!), could you tell me briefly how you tend to do that task? Do you cut and paste, or is there a robot out there that will parse a long page and make archives out of it? (I wish!) I occasionally run across some annoyingly long pages, and I'd like to make them more manageable. —
Gorthian (
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Best wishes for a wonderful 2016!---- WV ● ✉ ✓ 00:21, 31 December 2015 (UTC) |
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Archive 25 | Archive 26 | Archive 27 | Archive 28 | Archive 29 | Archive 30 |
Hey man. Yeah, I understand the problem. I didn't know it had to explicitly state that, thanks. Alvandria ( talk) 20:43, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
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I am shocked but not surprised when I saw the following edit. Versus001 is highly troublesome, trying to edit war with me. He follows me and reverts my edits. He snoops and stalks at my sandbox by patrolling it. I don't know what to do. Just hope he victimizes someone else and not me. Sandra opposed to terrorism ( talk) 23:31, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
The fuck. Take this off my page. Now. All of you. Shoo. Git.
Valfontis (
talk) 13:08, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
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You reverted an edit I made to the article about my 5th-great-grandfather, Cornelius Gilliam. I'm curious as to how you're related to Cornelius and if we are cousins. ETO Buff ( talk) 08:54, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
Re:Civic Stadium. Valfontis ( talk) 10:33, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
Thank you! I'm a real-life encyclopedia author, and I will do my best to give my contribution to this free-for-all online encyclopedia.
Daimyo2 (
talk) 16:55, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
Regarding this, your edit summary is inappropriate. I missed your one-line comment situated just above the other stuff, and never intended to put my comments above anyone else's, let alone yours. AGF was certainly due on your part. A snippy edit summary in this instance, not so much. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 16:16, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
"We've edited together harmoniously in the past, Winkelvi, please don't look for hostility where none was intended"Which is why I came here with the intent of pointing out WP:AGF. Which you didn't employ, rather, you assumed I was acting recklessly and disrespectfully -- as evidenced by this: ((tq|"I think my reaction was because I was unhappy that it looked like you had ignored my comment and repeated the same thing I said."}} Which, I believe, was the crux of the matter for you. You further confirm your upset here when you say,
"if you'd placed your reply at the bottom of the AFD, it may not have mattered so much."Sure, if I'd done that, this wouldn't have happened at all. If had also clicked "preview" I likely would have seen your comment already in place. But, in spite of all this, I get it. You were ticked I (allegedly) ignored your comment. Which I didn't. I honestly didn't see it. At this point I think you will now agree that the latter, rather than the former, would have been the better assumption.
"I think subsequent replies should go after the DELSORT notices instead of constantly forcing them to the bottom of the page."Noted. But I don't necessarily agree.
You might be interested in this. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 18:40, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
Re: Big Cat Rescue
I disagree with your notion of me engaging in an edit-war. Both Tedder and you reverted my edits several times with insufficient explanations. Both of you demand from me to discuss it on the talk page, while not doing the same yourself and preferring to immediately revert my edits instead. Several of the edits I made initially reverted by you or Tedder eventually remained in the article even after your major revision. -- Serval5412 ( talk) 18:51, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
... for editing your post at WP:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 October 24 § Streams, and thank you for AGF when you reverted it. I had thought it would be helpful and that you might accept it as such, but I was wrong, and it was presumptuous of me. At the very least, I should have asked permission before editing your post. YBG ( talk) 05:53, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
what exactly is disruptive about making a very short term test edit to help instruct kids in a classroom? This is ludicrous. Please reconsider. See the talk section above it. John from Idegon ( talk) 22:39, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
@ John from Idegon: have I been uncivil? I'm confused because I'm feeling a lot of anger and hostility from you and a few other people regarding the block I did that I brought to the community for discussion, which to be clear I am perfectly OK with someone reverting. Am I misinterpreting the anger and hostility? What's up? By doing what may have been an unwarranted action and possibly not assuming good faith on the part of the teacher, did I forfeit my right to WP:AFG in turn? As a fellow member of WikiProject Oregon I hope we can collaborate calmly in the future. Cheers, Valfontis ( talk) 17:17, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
Context: People talking about the situation and asking SlimVirgin to unblock on her talk page.
I'm not sure I should be the poster child for self-righteous assholes everywhere, but if I am, please calmly discuss how you would like me to act in the future. Further discussions about "good block", "bad block" etc. should be kept on the ANI section I started. Thanks! Valfontis ( talk) 18:51, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
An apology is in order: the hasty initial phrasing we're collectively a bunch of self righteous assholes (emphasis added) was intended to convey I was more dismayed at the overall tone -- especially all the folks saying "good block!!" It was as much about ANI as this particular block -- see Wikipedia:Not Colosseum, written last March. Of course I shouldn't have said it at all, which is why striking that portion was my first edit this morning (my time zone) [1]. NE Ent 20:48, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
How about this: someone unblocks Wangenra (I don't care whether its you or Sarah or someone else) and collectively Gandydancer, John from Idegon and you all agree we can simply remove User_talk:Wangenra#Sorry... from the talk page? NE Ent 21:25, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
To be clear, Valfontis, my repeat of the "asshole" sentiment was not directed at you. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 21:36, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
@ John from Idegon: are you suggesting someone (me?) e-mail the teacher? Which one of us is going to best represent the community? Perhaps that is a discussion for the ANI thread? Valfontis ( talk) 13:26, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
For the sake of clarity -- unless you count "being nagged" as a sanction, there is no serious thought of admin sanctions happening here. The admin standard is rightly WP:NOTPERFECT: the fact that some of us disagree with your particular approach to dealing with a particular legitimate issue -- no one is arguing the test edits can be allowed to continue -- does not mean you're not valued as an editor and an administrator. My goal here and on ANI is simply to get the editor unblocked (and the "sorry" section removed, because we really do want to send a coherent firm message). NE Ent 13:28, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
(I don't like being called "Val" ::smile::) I've unblocked and would like to move on. Cheers, Valfontis ( talk) 16:29, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
...for unblocking the teacher. It was the right thing to do. BMK ( talk) 07:27, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Awesome. I'm going to write an autobio now. Valfontis ( talk) 07:48, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
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7&6=thirteen (
☎) has given you a
Dobos Torte to enjoy! Seven layers of fun because you deserve it.
To give a Dobos Torte and spread the WikiLove, just place {{ subst:Dobos Torte}} on someone else's talkpage, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. |
7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 23:04, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
FYI... you created a redirect to itself. Bgwhite ( talk) 07:30, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
I've completed work on that list of creeks you posted to my talk page. That was fun. If you have more, I'd be glad to work on them too. Meanwhile, I see a lot of redlinked streams in the List of rivers of Oregon that should keep me occupied. Finetooth ( talk) 20:35, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for helping me to understand the difference between the state of Washington and Washington State...lol! You were nice about fixing my embarrassing edit. It's nice to meet another editor with a kind sense of humor. The Very Best of Regards,
I reported User:166.170.44.165 to AIV but he is still vandalizing, so I will need to request an immediate block. Thank you. CLCStudent ( talk) 17:25, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
Hello, I see that you have some concerns about my edits to the Jules Bailey page. You flagged a potential conflict of interest. Mr. Bailey is a former employer and a friend. I did not regard that as a conflict of interest, but rather as a basis for knowing something about the topic (I've just edited a few pages, about topics where I have a relatively unique knowledge). I see, though, that such relationships fall within Wikipedia's "conflict of interest" policy. (Also, my edits were all done on my own initiative, in my own free time, and I received no payment or benefit.)
I was careful to include verifiable information and provide references. If you have concerns/doubts, you're free to remove content that you find inappropriate, or I'll work with you to bring the article to Wikipedia's standard of neutrality. Hburton86 ( talk) 07:19, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
So I posted the Samuel Weller piece yesterday, and belatedly looked at Weller Pottery, which is relatively pitiful, IMHO. My question, though, has to do with duplication and the appropriate limits for the biography of Weller and the history of his company (which may also be used by viewers to learn about the various pottery lines). I tried to focus on Weller's character, relationships with his designers, and other details about his history and personality, but should part of this piece be moved to the article on the pottery? Cheers! Grand'mere Eugene ( talk) 23:58, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
My best wishes to you and yours in this holiday season
and in the year ahead. Finetooth ( talk) 18:08, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
![]() |
The 78.26 RFA Appreciation award |
Thank you for the participation and support at my RFA. It is truly appreciated. I hope to be of further help around here, and if you see me doing something dumb, you know where to find me. Again, I thank you. 78.26 ( spin me / revolutions) 02:13, 24 December 2015 (UTC) |
I seem to remember your mentioning (back in the dark ages a year or two back) that you sometimes archived exceedingly long talk pages. If it was you I talked to (and if it wasn't, please ignore!), could you tell me briefly how you tend to do that task? Do you cut and paste, or is there a robot out there that will parse a long page and make archives out of it? (I wish!) I occasionally run across some annoyingly long pages, and I'd like to make them more manageable. —
Gorthian (
talk) 02:47, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
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Happy New Year! |
Best wishes for a wonderful 2016!---- WV ● ✉ ✓ 00:21, 31 December 2015 (UTC) |