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Biggest families by species

  • Counts of 30 largest families pulled some time ago from [1], but not currently available.
Rubiaceae is the only one in top 10 not Vital listed, (and one of 2 in top 14, with Cyperaceae). After #14 (Ericaceae), of these 30, only Rosaceae, Campanulaceae and Arecaceae are listed. Some smaller families (and arguably less vital) are also on the list. I'd add Rubiaceae, Apiaceae and Brassicaceae (with A&B added, all but Guttiferae of the 8 classical families are listed), with grounds beyond species count alone. Then looking at remove some families not in top 30 (e.g. Ulmaceae, Primulaceae)
I don't think number of species by itself is a good enough argument for importance, but since Rubiaceae contains some notable species that otherwise wouldn't be represented on the list, it could be worth adding. Cobblet ( talk)
Yes, species count shouldn't be sole criteria. Just a possible useful guideline. Plantdrew ( talk)

Other families on vital list not in top 30. Some of these would be good to remove:

Candidates to add to vital article list (bold entries are top candidates)

Extinction and/or Endangered species

For production statistics (which I don't have time to check right now) FAOSTAT is the best source I know Cobblet ( talk). That's where I was planning to check. Plantdrew ( talk)

Trees

* Maple Cobblet ( talk) * Willow Cobblet ( talk) Good candidates, but doesn't help with northern temperate bias. But could swap these in with hornbeam and hazel out (we've got hazelnut, so hazel doesn't seem worth keeping). Plantdrew ( talk)

Agree, and we've also got both pine and pine nut Cobblet ( talk)
Ornamentals, etc.

* Ivy Cobblet ( talk)

* Is kelp not a plant anymore? Probably worth including anyway though Cobblet ( talk) * Cactus ought to be vital Cobblet ( talk) 18:42, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Kelp isn't a plant, but I agree that it would be a good candidate. Plantdrew ( talk)
Non food crops

* Jute (one of 3 most important fiber plants; cotton already listed, flax nominated)

  • Alfalfa important forage crop; maybe just include forage or fodder in Agriculture list?
  • Clover another forage, also very common weed, some symbolic importance
Veggies and seeds

* Eggplant (already nominated)

Fruits
Oil crops

Going off my gut instinct with bold entries. Would be good to check production statistics * Oil palm * Olive * Rapeseed

* Sesame

Pulses

Not sure about relative importance of non-bold entries. Check production stats.

* Chickpea

Herbs/spices

* Clove I'd prioritize this because of the spice trade Cobblet ( talk)

* Nutmeg in the same boat as clove Cobblet ( talk)

* Vanilla Asian spices? Asafoetida, Fenugreek, Lemon grass, Sichuan pepper? * Ginseng for sure, if we're also nominating vanilla Cobblet ( talk) Ginseng isn't really a spice, more of a medicinal (though that distinction can be a little blurry). We could include a few more medicinals though and ginseng is a good one. Plantdrew ( talk) 04:27, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Articles on plants with products already listed as vital (except rice, these products are listed elsewhere)

***Sugarcane is a must add. Among the top ten produced and valuable crops in the world according to FAOSTAT. It could fit in even at Level 3 comparing it to the other crops there. Gizza ( t)( c)

Highly viewed articles from Wikipedia:WikiProject Plants/Popular pages

* Seaweed (not really a plant, but probably vital)

Except Aloe vera and seaweed, I'm not very strongly inclined to add any of these. Good list of possibly vital drugs though (both recreational/medicinal).

Removal candidates (bold entries are top candidates)

Fruits
Seeds
Leaf veggies
Root veggies
Other veggies and spices
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Biggest families by species

  • Counts of 30 largest families pulled some time ago from [1], but not currently available.
Rubiaceae is the only one in top 10 not Vital listed, (and one of 2 in top 14, with Cyperaceae). After #14 (Ericaceae), of these 30, only Rosaceae, Campanulaceae and Arecaceae are listed. Some smaller families (and arguably less vital) are also on the list. I'd add Rubiaceae, Apiaceae and Brassicaceae (with A&B added, all but Guttiferae of the 8 classical families are listed), with grounds beyond species count alone. Then looking at remove some families not in top 30 (e.g. Ulmaceae, Primulaceae)
I don't think number of species by itself is a good enough argument for importance, but since Rubiaceae contains some notable species that otherwise wouldn't be represented on the list, it could be worth adding. Cobblet ( talk)
Yes, species count shouldn't be sole criteria. Just a possible useful guideline. Plantdrew ( talk)

Other families on vital list not in top 30. Some of these would be good to remove:

Candidates to add to vital article list (bold entries are top candidates)

Extinction and/or Endangered species

For production statistics (which I don't have time to check right now) FAOSTAT is the best source I know Cobblet ( talk). That's where I was planning to check. Plantdrew ( talk)

Trees

* Maple Cobblet ( talk) * Willow Cobblet ( talk) Good candidates, but doesn't help with northern temperate bias. But could swap these in with hornbeam and hazel out (we've got hazelnut, so hazel doesn't seem worth keeping). Plantdrew ( talk)

Agree, and we've also got both pine and pine nut Cobblet ( talk)
Ornamentals, etc.

* Ivy Cobblet ( talk)

* Is kelp not a plant anymore? Probably worth including anyway though Cobblet ( talk) * Cactus ought to be vital Cobblet ( talk) 18:42, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Kelp isn't a plant, but I agree that it would be a good candidate. Plantdrew ( talk)
Non food crops

* Jute (one of 3 most important fiber plants; cotton already listed, flax nominated)

  • Alfalfa important forage crop; maybe just include forage or fodder in Agriculture list?
  • Clover another forage, also very common weed, some symbolic importance
Veggies and seeds

* Eggplant (already nominated)

Fruits
Oil crops

Going off my gut instinct with bold entries. Would be good to check production statistics * Oil palm * Olive * Rapeseed

* Sesame

Pulses

Not sure about relative importance of non-bold entries. Check production stats.

* Chickpea

Herbs/spices

* Clove I'd prioritize this because of the spice trade Cobblet ( talk)

* Nutmeg in the same boat as clove Cobblet ( talk)

* Vanilla Asian spices? Asafoetida, Fenugreek, Lemon grass, Sichuan pepper? * Ginseng for sure, if we're also nominating vanilla Cobblet ( talk) Ginseng isn't really a spice, more of a medicinal (though that distinction can be a little blurry). We could include a few more medicinals though and ginseng is a good one. Plantdrew ( talk) 04:27, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Articles on plants with products already listed as vital (except rice, these products are listed elsewhere)

***Sugarcane is a must add. Among the top ten produced and valuable crops in the world according to FAOSTAT. It could fit in even at Level 3 comparing it to the other crops there. Gizza ( t)( c)

Highly viewed articles from Wikipedia:WikiProject Plants/Popular pages

* Seaweed (not really a plant, but probably vital)

Except Aloe vera and seaweed, I'm not very strongly inclined to add any of these. Good list of possibly vital drugs though (both recreational/medicinal).

Removal candidates (bold entries are top candidates)

Fruits
Seeds
Leaf veggies
Root veggies
Other veggies and spices

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