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Mughar el Hazzur Zero: El-Muĝar just NE of Deir Hanna, PEF gO. This is mostly a guess based on the proximity to Deir Hanna listed just before it. I suggest that the one on p189 is the El Mughar at PEF Qf (NE of Safed) which would be definitely in the Safed Kada. Huldra: Yeah, I agree. The mixed population in Mughar el Hazzur fits well with
Maghar, Israel
39 el Mejdel ?? from
Majdal: "al-Majdal, a Palestinian village in Haifa Subdistrict depopulated in 1925, now part of
Ramat Yohanan in Israel" -- Zero: It is possibly true (PEF hL) but el Mujeidil PEF iM is closer to Jeida. Huldra: That would be
Al-Mujaydil, and I had that at p.
182.....? Also, el Mejdel only have 95 inhabitants, which is far too little for
Al-Mujaydil. (see
Talk:Ramat Yohanan)
46
Kadmun?? large village with 810 Muslims and Christians Zero: This one is a real mystery. I searched high and low. I guess the next question would be: which large villages in this region are otherwise missing?
Zerotalk 01:53, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
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el Kababir (Siyah)??
Kababir?? more probably
Kabara, Haifa Zero: No, I think that is too far south. I suggest El Kureibeh (PEF Kh, on straight line from el-Tireh to Yajur). Called el Chrebe on Schumacher's map #34. Also note that "El Kababir" appears in Census 1931 under "Et Tira", p97.
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Khiryet Umm ed Dfuf -->
Dalia, Israel?? Zero: I doubt Dalia, neither PEF nor Schumacher #34 confirm. I suggest Umm esh Shuf PEF Kk. Huldra: You mean
Umm ash Shauf? Zero: PEF spells it Shûf. This is only a guess. Huldra:
Umm ash Shauf is on p.
181. But there was apparently a Umm ed-Dafuf close to
Daliyat al-Rawha', I cannot find it on the SWP map, though. Zero: I found it at 1571/2217, map 04ZikhronYaaqov, as "Kh. Um ad Dufuf". Odd that it isn't on earlier maps (guessing that's because it was a bedouin encampment rather than a permanent village). The spellings "Dafuf" and "Dufuf" find it in sources like Avneri's Claim and Benvenisti's Sacred Landscape. Also Census 1931 p97. Huldra: Yeah, found it....and it is just a few hundred meters from
Dalia, Israel...Huldra: I've included the data in
Daliyat al-Rawha', as the Gazette 1939 tells us that is where it [ie, the people] went. However, the land obviously went to
Dalia, Israel.
47
Guwarnet ez Zerka -->
Jisr az-Zarqa Zero: Guqarneh was a bedouin tribe and Zerka/Zarka is a river, so this is presumably the tribe members living at the river. Jisr az-Zarqa is of course the bridge over the river. I think this identification is ok.
48 Kiryat
Ma-mas --> probably not
Mas-ha?? Zero: No, it is Ma-mas PEF Jk. On Schumacher map 42 it is shown as "esch Schūne (Miamãs)".
6
esh Shejerah -->
Al-Shajara, Tiberias???? but see next page. Zero: Why the doubt? Huldra: There are so many places with equally sounding names in the area.
7 Sarona?? not
Sarona (colony)!! (Sh. 6, Ph, Pi), SWP I,
361,
414; is possibly the Lasharon of Joshua xii. 18,
370; the water supply,
379 Sârona, Sârona, p.n. (Sh. 6, Pi), Palmer, p.
133 1922: in Tiberias district, mixed Muslim and Jewish population p.
39. It is roughly where
Mishmar HaShlosha is today.
12 Kiryet
Mughr al-Khayt Zero: For reasons stated earlier, I prefer El Mughar at PEF Qf (NE of Safed) which would definitely be in the Safed Kada. Note that it is very close to both Fer'am and Kaba'ah. Huldra: Yeah, I think I agree.
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Mughar el Hazzur Zero: El-Muĝar just NE of Deir Hanna, PEF gO. This is mostly a guess based on the proximity to Deir Hanna listed just before it. I suggest that the one on p189 is the El Mughar at PEF Qf (NE of Safed) which would be definitely in the Safed Kada. Huldra: Yeah, I agree. The mixed population in Mughar el Hazzur fits well with
Maghar, Israel
39 el Mejdel ?? from
Majdal: "al-Majdal, a Palestinian village in Haifa Subdistrict depopulated in 1925, now part of
Ramat Yohanan in Israel" -- Zero: It is possibly true (PEF hL) but el Mujeidil PEF iM is closer to Jeida. Huldra: That would be
Al-Mujaydil, and I had that at p.
182.....? Also, el Mejdel only have 95 inhabitants, which is far too little for
Al-Mujaydil. (see
Talk:Ramat Yohanan)
46
Kadmun?? large village with 810 Muslims and Christians Zero: This one is a real mystery. I searched high and low. I guess the next question would be: which large villages in this region are otherwise missing?
Zerotalk 01:53, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
12
el Kababir (Siyah)??
Kababir?? more probably
Kabara, Haifa Zero: No, I think that is too far south. I suggest El Kureibeh (PEF Kh, on straight line from el-Tireh to Yajur). Called el Chrebe on Schumacher's map #34. Also note that "El Kababir" appears in Census 1931 under "Et Tira", p97.
16
Khiryet Umm ed Dfuf -->
Dalia, Israel?? Zero: I doubt Dalia, neither PEF nor Schumacher #34 confirm. I suggest Umm esh Shuf PEF Kk. Huldra: You mean
Umm ash Shauf? Zero: PEF spells it Shûf. This is only a guess. Huldra:
Umm ash Shauf is on p.
181. But there was apparently a Umm ed-Dafuf close to
Daliyat al-Rawha', I cannot find it on the SWP map, though. Zero: I found it at 1571/2217, map 04ZikhronYaaqov, as "Kh. Um ad Dufuf". Odd that it isn't on earlier maps (guessing that's because it was a bedouin encampment rather than a permanent village). The spellings "Dafuf" and "Dufuf" find it in sources like Avneri's Claim and Benvenisti's Sacred Landscape. Also Census 1931 p97. Huldra: Yeah, found it....and it is just a few hundred meters from
Dalia, Israel...Huldra: I've included the data in
Daliyat al-Rawha', as the Gazette 1939 tells us that is where it [ie, the people] went. However, the land obviously went to
Dalia, Israel.
47
Guwarnet ez Zerka -->
Jisr az-Zarqa Zero: Guqarneh was a bedouin tribe and Zerka/Zarka is a river, so this is presumably the tribe members living at the river. Jisr az-Zarqa is of course the bridge over the river. I think this identification is ok.
48 Kiryat
Ma-mas --> probably not
Mas-ha?? Zero: No, it is Ma-mas PEF Jk. On Schumacher map 42 it is shown as "esch Schūne (Miamãs)".
6
esh Shejerah -->
Al-Shajara, Tiberias???? but see next page. Zero: Why the doubt? Huldra: There are so many places with equally sounding names in the area.
7 Sarona?? not
Sarona (colony)!! (Sh. 6, Ph, Pi), SWP I,
361,
414; is possibly the Lasharon of Joshua xii. 18,
370; the water supply,
379 Sârona, Sârona, p.n. (Sh. 6, Pi), Palmer, p.
133 1922: in Tiberias district, mixed Muslim and Jewish population p.
39. It is roughly where
Mishmar HaShlosha is today.
12 Kiryet
Mughr al-Khayt Zero: For reasons stated earlier, I prefer El Mughar at PEF Qf (NE of Safed) which would definitely be in the Safed Kada. Note that it is very close to both Fer'am and Kaba'ah. Huldra: Yeah, I think I agree.