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This is the centralized talk page for Template:Transgender (appears at bottom of articles) and Template:Transgender sidebar (appears at side of some core transgender topic articles). Except for the sidebar containing less content, changes to one template should be reflected in the other as well. If your message only relates to one of the templates, please specify sidebar or footer. |
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This has nothing to do with trans people. Tombomp ( talk/ contribs) 21:27, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
I think it would be interesting to make this sidebar a bit more general: it could be renamed to Gender instead of Transgender. To me, it would make sense to put the sidebar on the page Gender, and to include the gender identities woman and man. Intersex is a physical condition, and maybe no-one identifies themselves as such (?), but I think it should be included as well. A lot of (international) Wikipedia visitors who look for information about transgender may not know of the terms gender and intersex, and it's a good thing to invite these people to read about it. Laurier ( talk) 09:24, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
Hi, it would be helpful to add more links to social, political and legal issues, like Transgender people in sports. Maybe the legal section could be expanded? Trankuility ( talk) 11:39, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
Thought I should flag that there is a conversation regarding the above questions happening over at Talk:Pangender that really should be happening here instead. -- Pfhorrest ( talk) 05:23, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
Currently the Monica Helms flag is being presented in this template as a symbol of trans issues. I think the flag is problematic for a few reasons -
I do not know what the best symbol is, but there is a unicode symbol for transgender - ⚧ - described at Gender_symbol#Sociology. I propose that we change the United States flag symbol to the more neutral unicode symbol. Thoughts from others? Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:02, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
I propose a "Related" section for links to areas that are not transgender topics, but intersect them. For example, LGBT, Intersex, DSM, minority stress, sexual orientation. It might be a challenge to keep the list under control, but this seems to have worked out ok with Template:Intersex. Related links help to recognize intersectionalities and may also help users distinguish issues and find information. Trankuility ( talk) 23:27, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
@ SpeakForMe: I do not think this is an improvement. Please explain. Also, the edit summary should say more about what you are doing, please. -- David Tornheim ( talk) 23:04, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
@ David Tornheim: Isn't the "fictional" redundant? And surely the "Characters" should link to the characters? Looked like a mistake to me, why don't you think it is an improvement? SpeakForMe ( talk) 23:09, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
@ David Tornheim: Fair enough. SpeakForMe ( talk) 23:30, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Please see talk subject here - /info/en/?search=Template_talk:LGBT_sidebar#Detransition_as_identity - A145GI15I95 ( talk) 18:51, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
Crossroads, what is wrong with including queer heterosexuality in the sidebar? Per its page it concerns "heterosexual persons who show nontraditional gender expressions, or who adopt gender roles that differ from the hegemonic masculinity and femininity of their particular culture". The subject seems relevant enough for inclusion in this see also section due to this relation. I don't see anywhere it fits in the LGBT sidebar and seems most relevant here. Helper201 ( talk) 06:22, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
The colors of the transgender topics template are currently 55cdfc f7a8b8 ffffff
but based on the svg of the flag in wikimedia commons they should be 5bcefa f5a9b8 ffffff
I will make the necessary changes if I can find a good source for the 'true' colors if any. 2602:3F:E6A5:8F00:69A5:B242:D065:1E96 ( talk) 04:53, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
According to the Proposal for Transgender Flag Emoji, "The flag is based on five pastel bands. Pastel Blue (RGB #5BCEFA), Pastel Pink (RGB #F5A9B8) and white, repeating horizontally." I will edit the hex values accordingly. 2602:3F:E6A5:8F00:69A5:B242:D065:1E96 ( talk) 06:42, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello All, as part of Wiki Loves Pride I began a stub for pinapinaaine from Tuvalu and I wondered if the term could be added to the template alongside fa'afafine, etc.? Many thanks, Lajmmoore ( talk) 14:11, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Let us maybe just call them "Murders"? Симуран ( talk) 20:04, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
Looking at the article Third gender I saw there was an image provided in the source code for the template Template:Transgender sidebar. However no image is displayed on the actual page. I don't know the inner workings of this so I'm posting this comment here so perhaps someone with the know-how might find out what's happening, thank you. Wandering Morpheme 23:00, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
LGBT studies Template‑class | |||||||
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This is the centralized talk page for Template:Transgender (appears at bottom of articles) and Template:Transgender sidebar (appears at side of some core transgender topic articles). Except for the sidebar containing less content, changes to one template should be reflected in the other as well. If your message only relates to one of the templates, please specify sidebar or footer. |
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This has nothing to do with trans people. Tombomp ( talk/ contribs) 21:27, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
I think it would be interesting to make this sidebar a bit more general: it could be renamed to Gender instead of Transgender. To me, it would make sense to put the sidebar on the page Gender, and to include the gender identities woman and man. Intersex is a physical condition, and maybe no-one identifies themselves as such (?), but I think it should be included as well. A lot of (international) Wikipedia visitors who look for information about transgender may not know of the terms gender and intersex, and it's a good thing to invite these people to read about it. Laurier ( talk) 09:24, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
Hi, it would be helpful to add more links to social, political and legal issues, like Transgender people in sports. Maybe the legal section could be expanded? Trankuility ( talk) 11:39, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
Thought I should flag that there is a conversation regarding the above questions happening over at Talk:Pangender that really should be happening here instead. -- Pfhorrest ( talk) 05:23, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
Currently the Monica Helms flag is being presented in this template as a symbol of trans issues. I think the flag is problematic for a few reasons -
I do not know what the best symbol is, but there is a unicode symbol for transgender - ⚧ - described at Gender_symbol#Sociology. I propose that we change the United States flag symbol to the more neutral unicode symbol. Thoughts from others? Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:02, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
I propose a "Related" section for links to areas that are not transgender topics, but intersect them. For example, LGBT, Intersex, DSM, minority stress, sexual orientation. It might be a challenge to keep the list under control, but this seems to have worked out ok with Template:Intersex. Related links help to recognize intersectionalities and may also help users distinguish issues and find information. Trankuility ( talk) 23:27, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
@ SpeakForMe: I do not think this is an improvement. Please explain. Also, the edit summary should say more about what you are doing, please. -- David Tornheim ( talk) 23:04, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
@ David Tornheim: Isn't the "fictional" redundant? And surely the "Characters" should link to the characters? Looked like a mistake to me, why don't you think it is an improvement? SpeakForMe ( talk) 23:09, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
@ David Tornheim: Fair enough. SpeakForMe ( talk) 23:30, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Please see talk subject here - /info/en/?search=Template_talk:LGBT_sidebar#Detransition_as_identity - A145GI15I95 ( talk) 18:51, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
Crossroads, what is wrong with including queer heterosexuality in the sidebar? Per its page it concerns "heterosexual persons who show nontraditional gender expressions, or who adopt gender roles that differ from the hegemonic masculinity and femininity of their particular culture". The subject seems relevant enough for inclusion in this see also section due to this relation. I don't see anywhere it fits in the LGBT sidebar and seems most relevant here. Helper201 ( talk) 06:22, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
The colors of the transgender topics template are currently 55cdfc f7a8b8 ffffff
but based on the svg of the flag in wikimedia commons they should be 5bcefa f5a9b8 ffffff
I will make the necessary changes if I can find a good source for the 'true' colors if any. 2602:3F:E6A5:8F00:69A5:B242:D065:1E96 ( talk) 04:53, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
According to the Proposal for Transgender Flag Emoji, "The flag is based on five pastel bands. Pastel Blue (RGB #5BCEFA), Pastel Pink (RGB #F5A9B8) and white, repeating horizontally." I will edit the hex values accordingly. 2602:3F:E6A5:8F00:69A5:B242:D065:1E96 ( talk) 06:42, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello All, as part of Wiki Loves Pride I began a stub for pinapinaaine from Tuvalu and I wondered if the term could be added to the template alongside fa'afafine, etc.? Many thanks, Lajmmoore ( talk) 14:11, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Let us maybe just call them "Murders"? Симуран ( talk) 20:04, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
Looking at the article Third gender I saw there was an image provided in the source code for the template Template:Transgender sidebar. However no image is displayed on the actual page. I don't know the inner workings of this so I'm posting this comment here so perhaps someone with the know-how might find out what's happening, thank you. Wandering Morpheme 23:00, 7 November 2023 (UTC)