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Wake up. Did you notice that Soviet Union has been gone for 15 years already. Metros in Ukraine, Georgia, Azerbaijan and other independent countries continue its successful development with no relation what so ever with the Soviet Union. The cities listed in the template are not tight by common history, as for example, Dnipropetrovsk metro has been opened in 1995 after the fall of the Soviet Union. Uapatriot 05:17, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
Why are you calling people paranoiacs? What is the purpose of this template anyway? To keep honoring the Soviet times? Are you having a Soviet nostalgia? How about to make another template called former Russian Empire and add cities like Warsaw and Helsinki? Aleksandr Grigoryev ( talk) 03:25, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
Should we add the Kryvyi Rih Metro Tram to the template? I know it is not a metro system but we could write Kryvyi Rih (Metrotram) or smth like that. — DDima (talk) 21:42, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
Lets take it one at a time. Rapid transit and public transport. Trams, unless they are metro trams come under the latter. Althought in the USSR there exists the following criteria for public rail systems:
1,2 are publict transport, 3 and 4 are rapid transit.
Now normally as the city grows the tram is transformed into a metro in three phases:
So far Volgograd only reached part two. I never been to Krivoi Rog (although I shall next time I'm off to Volhynia), but as far as I know it had no tram whatsoever so that was built as a Metrotram from the start.
Yerevan is a joke. It had a tram (maybe even a rapid tram, as these are widespread) in 1976 they started boring the metro tunnels for the conversion to a Metro tram. However national pride of Armenians convinced Brezhnev to skip this step and build a whole Metro altogether (despite lacking the million population number). However it proved too expensive, too unreliable and did not reach the needed length to fully accomodate the transport needs before the earthquake of 88 and the breakup of the USSR. As a result well see the links at Yerevan Metro.
Now there is a big contradiction arising. How come places like Kharkov, Nizhny Novgorod, Tashkent, Novosibirsk have Metros built skipping the Metrotram and in some places not having a tram of any kind. That scheme above was planned for an ideal socialist деревня as it becomes a city over a hundred years or so. Those cities were cities inherited by the USSR from pre-USSR times. You know what I think an article Socialist Urban Transport (not just FSU, but Eastern Europe, North Korea, etc) is needed to be the base and explain all that above then we launch a wikiproject (or even a portal) on writing articles on ALL trams, trolleys, buses in ALL socialist and ex-socialist cities and towns. That way we kill two hares, have an excellent and ambitious base and avoid damaging the national pride of some of our nationally conscious colleagues. -- Kuban Cossack 23:09, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
I don't think this railway belongs here. It is by no means a metro ( rapid transit), neiter a metrotram. It is more like heritage railway actually. Just being undergroud doesn't make any rail transport system automatically a metro. Kneiphof 21:13, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
[1]. Please explain, I have never heard of them being built, let alone planned. -- Kuban Cossack 14:00, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Hello Metro people. :) I have created a new page for the Rostov-on-Don metro. It is on the template on the Russian wikipedia. It would be nice if some of you could help out on that page. ( LAz17 ( talk) 00:21, 5 October 2008 (UTC))
Thanks!( LAz17 ( talk) 02:14, 19 October 2008 (UTC))
http://www.kyivpost.com/business/38501 Tymoshenko: Mitsubishi to develop metro transit for Donetsk, Dnipropetrovsk 28 March, 20:38 | Interfax-Ukraine -I thought this might be useful? ( LAz17 ( talk) 15:21, 6 April 2009 (UTC)).
These two are added. ( LAz17 ( talk) 05:49, 23 September 2009 (UTC)).
What do you guys think about this?
I don't know why it does not open automatically. ( LAz17 ( talk) 06:08, 23 September 2009 (UTC)).
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Trains: Rapid transit / Soviet Metros | |||||||||||||||||||
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Wake up. Did you notice that Soviet Union has been gone for 15 years already. Metros in Ukraine, Georgia, Azerbaijan and other independent countries continue its successful development with no relation what so ever with the Soviet Union. The cities listed in the template are not tight by common history, as for example, Dnipropetrovsk metro has been opened in 1995 after the fall of the Soviet Union. Uapatriot 05:17, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
Why are you calling people paranoiacs? What is the purpose of this template anyway? To keep honoring the Soviet times? Are you having a Soviet nostalgia? How about to make another template called former Russian Empire and add cities like Warsaw and Helsinki? Aleksandr Grigoryev ( talk) 03:25, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
Should we add the Kryvyi Rih Metro Tram to the template? I know it is not a metro system but we could write Kryvyi Rih (Metrotram) or smth like that. — DDima (talk) 21:42, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
Lets take it one at a time. Rapid transit and public transport. Trams, unless they are metro trams come under the latter. Althought in the USSR there exists the following criteria for public rail systems:
1,2 are publict transport, 3 and 4 are rapid transit.
Now normally as the city grows the tram is transformed into a metro in three phases:
So far Volgograd only reached part two. I never been to Krivoi Rog (although I shall next time I'm off to Volhynia), but as far as I know it had no tram whatsoever so that was built as a Metrotram from the start.
Yerevan is a joke. It had a tram (maybe even a rapid tram, as these are widespread) in 1976 they started boring the metro tunnels for the conversion to a Metro tram. However national pride of Armenians convinced Brezhnev to skip this step and build a whole Metro altogether (despite lacking the million population number). However it proved too expensive, too unreliable and did not reach the needed length to fully accomodate the transport needs before the earthquake of 88 and the breakup of the USSR. As a result well see the links at Yerevan Metro.
Now there is a big contradiction arising. How come places like Kharkov, Nizhny Novgorod, Tashkent, Novosibirsk have Metros built skipping the Metrotram and in some places not having a tram of any kind. That scheme above was planned for an ideal socialist деревня as it becomes a city over a hundred years or so. Those cities were cities inherited by the USSR from pre-USSR times. You know what I think an article Socialist Urban Transport (not just FSU, but Eastern Europe, North Korea, etc) is needed to be the base and explain all that above then we launch a wikiproject (or even a portal) on writing articles on ALL trams, trolleys, buses in ALL socialist and ex-socialist cities and towns. That way we kill two hares, have an excellent and ambitious base and avoid damaging the national pride of some of our nationally conscious colleagues. -- Kuban Cossack 23:09, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
I don't think this railway belongs here. It is by no means a metro ( rapid transit), neiter a metrotram. It is more like heritage railway actually. Just being undergroud doesn't make any rail transport system automatically a metro. Kneiphof 21:13, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
[1]. Please explain, I have never heard of them being built, let alone planned. -- Kuban Cossack 14:00, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Hello Metro people. :) I have created a new page for the Rostov-on-Don metro. It is on the template on the Russian wikipedia. It would be nice if some of you could help out on that page. ( LAz17 ( talk) 00:21, 5 October 2008 (UTC))
Thanks!( LAz17 ( talk) 02:14, 19 October 2008 (UTC))
http://www.kyivpost.com/business/38501 Tymoshenko: Mitsubishi to develop metro transit for Donetsk, Dnipropetrovsk 28 March, 20:38 | Interfax-Ukraine -I thought this might be useful? ( LAz17 ( talk) 15:21, 6 April 2009 (UTC)).
These two are added. ( LAz17 ( talk) 05:49, 23 September 2009 (UTC)).
What do you guys think about this?
I don't know why it does not open automatically. ( LAz17 ( talk) 06:08, 23 September 2009 (UTC)).